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CpuFan
07-28-2006, 11:33 AM
NFL | NFL Network being dropped
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http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl


The Buffalo News reports the NFL Network very likely will be thrown for a loss Tuesday, Aug. 1, locally and nationally when it is expected to be dropped from the cable lineup after Adelphia's long-awaited takeover by Time Warner is completed. Buffalo, Dallas and Cleveland are the three NFL markets that had been getting The NFL Network and will lose it in the Adelphia-Time Warner deal, according to an NFL Network spokesman. "We pleaded to be left on while we continue to negotiate," e-mailed the spokesman, "especially since the first of 52 preseason games and 12 inside training camp shows begin, but Time Warner refused." As noted previously, the NFL Network plans to launch its own marketing campaign to let viewers understand their options, including satellite providers Dish Network and DirecTV on their "most affordable, basic packages."

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Yeah, Brighthouse here in FL and Time warner are all in agreement, they want to offer this to their customer for an additional fee like Dishs do, but the NFL said No. So these Cable companies won't offer it. As you know it's all about the DOUGH!!!

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Last week NFL Network suits said the first game of their new eight-game, prime time, regular-season package will be a matchup between Denver and Kansas City (November 23).

Will anyone be able to watch it?

While NFL Network brass has made a lot of noise about the new package, even fueling speculation over who might be behind the microphones, major cable operators - like Cablevision and Time Warner Cable - are saying that even with the games, chances are they won't be carrying the NFL Network in 2006.

According to these sources, if NFL owners think they are going to force these games down the cable industry's throat it will be the owners who end up gagging on them.

Well-embedded cable moles say there are a few reasons why the cable industry - at the present time - wants nothing to do with the NFL Network. One reason is about channel position. NFL Network brass wants the network to be carried on "expanded basic." Cable operators told them the network belongs on a digital sports tier where subscribers would pay a premium to purchase the NFL Network.

Now, with the addition of games, the price has become a major issue. Sources say the NFL Network wants not only to be on "expanded basic," but is looking to charge cable operators around $2 per month, per subscriber. Some cable industry executives say the price is "totally out of line" in relation to the "quality" of games the NFL Network will offer.

Furthermore, hometown fans of teams participating in NFL Network games will be able to see those tilts on an "over-the-air" channel (such as Ch. 9 or Ch. 5 here) in their market. So, if the Giants or Jets wind up playing on the NFL Network, the game would be made available here "over-the-air."

Besides pricing, placement and availability, there is a rocky history between systems like Cablevision, Time Warner and the NFL. This goes back about seven years when the league negotiated an exclusive "NFL Sunday Ticket" package with satellite provider DirecTV.

Cable industry sources said the NFL "promised" them when the deal with DirecTV expired the league would give them a chance to negotiate for the "NFL Sunday Ticket" package.

"That day came and went and they never talked to us," a cable mole said. "That left a sour taste in the industry's mouth."

The NFL Network currently does have a contract with Comcast, the nation's largest cable operator, but when the NFL Network acquired the package of games, it triggered a clause allowing the NFL to re-open the contract. Now, if NFL Network brass looks to drastically raise the price it was charging Comcast per month, per subscriber, it may end up being booted off Comcast's systems.

Remember, Comcast, which owns the Outdoor Life Network (OLN), tried purchasing the same package NFL owners eventually gave to their own network. So, at the present time, there is not exactly a love affair going on between Comcast and the NFL.

Or the rest of the cable industry for that matter.

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By Michael McCarthy, USA TODAY

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2006-07-27-nfl-network_x.htm?POE=SPOISVA

The NFL is preparing to launch a $100 million attack ad campaign over the next six months in an attempt to force cable TV operators to carry its NFL Network channel, which will begin airing regular-season games in November.
If the cable providers don't sign up, the NFL will urge consumers to switch to satellite TV operators that carry the channel, NFL Network spokesman Seth Palansky says.


The 2½-year-old channel also has basic cable and/or digital distribution deals with at least 75 cable operators, including Comcast, the nation's top cable provider, and reaches 41 million homes. With the NFL Network airing regular-season games beginning Thanksgiving night, the league thinks it has the leverage to force its way into 25 million more homes this season. The TV, radio, print and magazine ads, which will target cable operators by name, could begin as early as next week, Palansky says.

"We think it's asinine that Time Warner (the nation's No. 2 cable provider) carries 12 shopping channels and 50 other channels you don't want — but can't find room for one dedicated to the most popular sport in this country," Palansky says. "We're replacing the kid gloves with bare knuckles."

One ad aimed at Time Warner says, "Don't let Time Warner ruin your football season. You'll miss NFL games if you don't call and demand NFL Network now." Another targeting Cablevision, a provider in metro New York, warns, "Don't let Cablevision shut you out." The ad lists the channel's games and a toll-free number for NFL Network.

Time Warner Cable spokesman Mark Harrad says it "is still having discussions with the NFL Network." Cablevision's Marie Stenberg declined to comment

feelthepain
07-28-2006, 11:38 AM
So how long before us comcast subscribers lose the NFL network?? There is nothing on this planet worse then greed.

SoFloDolFan
07-28-2006, 11:39 AM
:shakeno:

Cobra84
07-28-2006, 11:42 AM
The NFL is the most short-sighted business I have ever seen. The Madden and Directv deals, along with the handling of NFL Network, shows the NFL is willing to sacrifce long term success for very short term profit.

burger13
07-28-2006, 11:43 AM
So let me get this straight.........the NFL wants a $2 cut per subscriber for the NFL network - a charge that the cable company could and would pass on to the customer who chooses to get the channel - and this is a problem???

Make the channel a premium channel, let the customers who want it pay for it. End of problem! Why do these jackasses make everything harder than it has to be???

EDIT - btw, I can't feel sorry for those about to lose the channel, as I have Cablevision and have never had it.

CpuFan
07-28-2006, 11:44 AM
As I see it the cable companies don't want to pay anything extra for it and then they want to charge for it in the sports packages!

Cobra84
07-28-2006, 11:45 AM
So let me get this straight.........the NFL wants a $2 cut per subscriber for the NFL network - a charge that the cable company could and would pass on to the customer who chooses to get the channel - and this is a problem???

Make the channel a premium channel, let the customers who want it pay for it. End of problem! Why do these jackasses make everything harder than it has to be???


NFL Network brass wants the network to be carried on "expanded basic".
Does that answer your question?

feelthepain
07-28-2006, 11:50 AM
EDIT - btw, I can't feel sorry for those about to lose the channel, as I have Cablevision and have never had it.

Why was this comment necessary??

Mike13
07-28-2006, 11:51 AM
That sucks, I like the NFL Network. Its not a problem for me because I have DirecTV and thats part pf the basic package, it should be a part of the basic package for Cable.

MiamiFan1354
07-28-2006, 11:54 AM
So how long before us comcast subscribers lose the NFL network?? There is nothing on this planet worse then greed.


If comcast drops NFL Network, I drop comcast and go back to Direct TV

Schleprock
07-28-2006, 11:54 AM
Another reason why I will never go back to a cable company. DirecTV IS the best out there for programming, service, and price. You might get one of those elsewhere, but you won't get all three of those items to jive together like DirecTV does.

After Regis in Buffalo, does Adelphia - Time Warner really need to be acting the hard arse???

burger13
07-28-2006, 11:55 AM
Does that answer your question?

I guess I got confused by this:


Now, with the addition of games, the price has become a major issue. Sources say the NFL Network wants not only to be on "expanded basic," but is looking to charge cable operators around $2 per month, per subscriber. Some cable industry executives say the price is "totally out of line" in relation to the "quality" of games the NFL Network will offer.


Why the hell does the NFL care if the cable companies make customers pay for their channel..........when the alternative is them not getting it at all.

I used to be pissed at my cable provider, but now I'm pissed at the NFL.

burger13
07-28-2006, 11:57 AM
Why was this comment necessary??

Necessary? No..............but what on this board is?? :wink:

Just throwing it out there are people who are in a worse situation than those who are about to lose it

"Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." :(

MikeO
07-28-2006, 11:58 AM
These cable companies are the devil. The 1st year of the YES NETWORK it wasn't carried by Cablevision in NYC. People in NYC for one full year couldn't watch Yankee games.

Cable companies will HURT YOU (the customer) just to prove a point and pro-long a grudge. Cable Companies are evil. DIRECTV, if ya haven't learned by now you never will. Cable Companies suck.

STANK-STASH
07-28-2006, 12:00 PM
If comcast drops NFL Network, I drop comcast and go back to Direct TV


Me too.

feelthepain
07-28-2006, 12:06 PM
Necessary? No..............but what on this board is?? :wink:

Just throwing it out there are people who are in a worse situation than those who are about to lose it

"Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." :(

Well I'm not trying to start trouble here, but by your statement you seem as though your happy others won't have it because you don't.

Strangeworld
07-28-2006, 12:09 PM
In my opinion there is NO other option besides Direct TV... it's hands down the best.

Superself
07-28-2006, 12:10 PM
LOL at the cable companies painting the NFL as greedy.

The NFL put the Sunday ticket package up for grabs but Directv outbids everyone all the time.

I love Directv and TIVO!!

I too think that the NFL Network should be available as expanded cable.

SkapePhin
07-28-2006, 12:14 PM
NFL Network went offair last night around 10 here in Fort Lauderdale (Comcast) and it hasnt been back up since.. does that have to do with this?

PhinzN703
07-28-2006, 12:15 PM
That sucks, I like the NFL Network. Its not a problem for me because I have DirecTV and thats part pf the basic package, it should be a part of the basic package for Cable.

I don't watch the channel too often on my dish, but we'll definitely be needing the NFL Network comes Thanksgiving. Sucks that they couldn't work it out, but I have DirecTV too, so oh well

ILPhinFan88
07-28-2006, 12:16 PM
So how long before us comcast subscribers lose the NFL network?? There is nothing on this planet worse then greed.


Dont say that my town just switched to Comcast.

Alex44
07-28-2006, 12:22 PM
This sucks....I love the NFL network, they better work something out so that it stays free.....and available

LtDan
07-28-2006, 12:27 PM
DirectTV baby!!

BBsuck
07-28-2006, 12:28 PM
If comcast drops NFL Network, I drop comcast and go back to Direct TV

Smartest thing I have read all day!!!!!!..cable blows..:tongue:

InMyChambers
07-28-2006, 12:29 PM
you guys are lucky you aren't in the philly market which is comcast's home. they have a stronghold here that you wouldn't believe. i'll be getting digital cable within a couple of weeks so i can get teh nfl network. however, if they drop the nfl network i'll be really screwed. sure there is directv and i can get everything i want via satelitte but then i lose out on comcast sportsnet which carries the phillies, flyers, and sixers. you can't get comcast sportsnet via directv.

it's such a ****ing scam that it makes me sick.

PhinFan0202
07-28-2006, 12:32 PM
So how long before us comcast subscribers lose the NFL network?? There is nothing on this planet worse then greed.

Are all viewers who have Comcast in Florida going to lose NFL Network? If so i am going to be very angry.

PhinFan0202
07-28-2006, 12:36 PM
Necessary? No..............but what on this board is?? :wink:

Just throwing it out there are people who are in a worse situation than those who are about to lose it

"Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." :(

If you're trying to piss people off right now your doing a good job. What you're saying is right to an extent but that still dosen't change the fact that the people that are going to lose the Channel are going to lose it for some B.S. reasons.

PhinGeneral
07-28-2006, 12:49 PM
2 greedy, wealthy corporations fighting each other and having a game of chicken.

Cable doesn't want to absorb the cost, and they prefer not to have to up the rates to have it on "basic" cable. Of course they'll claim they have the people's interest at heart, but they know full well the power of the NFL and know they could make lots more money putting it in a premium package that they could sell. The NFL, on the other hand, knows it can up its advertising rates on the network if it were available to a wider range of homes. And while I favor the NFL in this battle, it certainly wouldn't surprise me if they are trying to push the NFL network down the Cable companies throats.

bigmiamifan
07-28-2006, 01:00 PM
Make the channel a premium channel, let the customers who want it pay for it. End of problem! Why do these jackasses make everything harder than it has to be???

Because honestly, how many would pay $5 a month extra for just 3 months of games when most would be televised for free? I wouldn't.

InMyChambers
07-28-2006, 01:01 PM
why not a happy medium like having the station on an expanded basis and dropping the $2 surcharge?

GCD960
07-28-2006, 01:16 PM
Well, Cablevision blows. Like the other posted had stated, they didnt carry YES for quite some time and i couldnt watch the yankees...Disgraceful.

Plain and Simple...carry the channel at a cost and be done with it.

burger13
07-28-2006, 02:15 PM
Because honestly, how many would pay $5 a month extra for just 3 months of games when most would be televised for free? I wouldn't.

That's fine though......at least there's a choice. You wouldn't pay, so you don't get it. I would pay, so I would.

Fine the NFL is trying to eventually get it to people for free.........but at the expense of millions who can't get it, even if they were willing to pay.

burger13
07-28-2006, 02:18 PM
If you're trying to piss people off right now your doing a good job. What you're saying is right to an extent but that still dosen't change the fact that the people that are going to lose the Channel are going to lose it for some B.S. reasons.

Easy chief it's not like that..........subject has everyone a little sensative, huh?

Just pointing out that those who have had to suffer this all along.

CpuFan
07-28-2006, 03:39 PM
Man I hate the cable companies, LOL you know what's funny I just left working for Brighthouse after three years LOL...'

DolfanDaveInATX
07-28-2006, 04:28 PM
Why the hell does the NFL care if the cable companies make customers pay for their channel..........when the alternative is them not getting it at all.

I used to be pissed at my cable provider, but now I'm pissed at the NFL.

Ad rates are better on expanded basic than a premium channel.

Samphin
07-28-2006, 04:47 PM
I guess I got confused by this:



Why the hell does the NFL care if the cable companies make customers pay for their channel..........when the alternative is them not getting it at all.

I used to be pissed at my cable provider, but now I'm pissed at the NFL.


Simple. The NFL Network wants to be on the basic package so more people have it available to them. Basically, the more people who have it, the more will watch it. That will result in higher ratings, which leads to higher amounts being shelled out to the NFL Network for advertising (commercials).

If they are on the sports package, they would have to rley on people paying for that service, which, many people will not, thus losing potential revenue via advertising.

Schleprock
07-28-2006, 08:38 PM
you guys are lucky you aren't in the philly market which is comcast's home. they have a stronghold here that you wouldn't believe. i'll be getting digital cable within a couple of weeks so i can get teh nfl network. however, if they drop the nfl network i'll be really screwed. sure there is directv and i can get everything i want via satelitte but then i lose out on comcast sportsnet which carries the phillies, flyers, and sixers. you can't get comcast sportsnet via directv.

it's such a ****ing scam that it makes me sick.
uhmm, yes you can. I get it for the Wizzers...I mean Wizards.

njphinatic1
07-28-2006, 11:28 PM
Well, Cablevision blows. Like the other posted had stated, they didnt carry YES for quite some time and i couldnt watch the yankees...Disgraceful.

Plain and Simple...carry the channel at a cost and be done with it.
what's up kid i'm from eliz. do u ever go 2 shula's sports bar across from the newark airport?

Rocky Raccoon
07-28-2006, 11:35 PM
what's up kid i'm from eliz. do u ever go 2 shula's sports bar across from the newark airport?
you are from Elizabeth too?

I'm from Scotch Plains