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Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 01:07 PM
The Batman Begins sequel has been announced and will be called "The Dark Knight".

It is confirmed that Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Katie Holmes and Gary Oldman will be back playing the same roles they did in the first movie.

Heath Ledger will play the Joker.

The script will be written by Chris Nolan, Dan Goyer and Jonathan Nolan (basically the same guys that wrote the first film).

Production is set for early 2007 for a summer 2008 release date.

Here's the link:

http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/43556/[Movies]-Heath-Ledger-Confirmed-As-Joker-In-Next-Batman-Movie.htm

CharlestonPhan
08-01-2006, 01:20 PM
you mean its not going to be called "Batman Continues?"











j/k :goof:

CharlestonPhan
08-01-2006, 01:24 PM
seriously, still not sold on the idea of Heath Ledger as Joker. but then again cant really think of a better choice, so ill trust those that made BB such a kick@ss movie.

Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 01:27 PM
seriously, still not sold on the idea of Heath Ledger as Joker. but then again cant really think of a better choice, so ill trust those that made BB such a kick@ss movie.

Some of the names being thrown out as a possible Joker were: Robin Williams, Paul Bettany, Adrin Brody, and Michael Keaton.

I think Heath will look good as the Joker due to his pointy chin and cheek bones but like you said I trust the people that made the first Batman Begins, because I think they know what they're doing.

And they should have named the movie: Batman Begins Again

dominizzo
08-01-2006, 01:38 PM
I wonder if it will be goood or a FLOP

Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 01:40 PM
I wonder if it will be goood or a FLOP

I think it's going to be as good as the first, maybe even better.

In my opinion Batman is the best comic character out there with the best villians. There's so many stories that they can tell with the franchise.

ch19079
08-01-2006, 01:45 PM
Some of the names being thrown out as a possible Joker were: Robin Williams, Paul Bettany, Adrin Brody, and Michael Keaton.

:lol:

Roman529
08-01-2006, 01:51 PM
Katie Holmes looks like a high schooler, and has an annoying voice. I think Batman is played out.

Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 01:53 PM
Katie Holmes looks like a high schooler, and has an annoying voice. I think Batman is played out.

I agree about Holmes, she brought nothing to the first film and was useless.

I heard that she won't be in the 2nd one as much, just a few minutes or so to introduce Harvey Dent to Bruce Wayne.

dominizzo
08-01-2006, 01:59 PM
Superman and Spiderman are also good

Gonzo
08-01-2006, 02:02 PM
The Dark Knight is the PERFECT title. I just hope they don't puss out and attach "Batman 2" or something similar to it. Ledger will be fine. He has shown himself to be a good actor.

In_Flames
08-01-2006, 02:05 PM
The Dark Knight is the PERFECT title. I just hope they don't puss out and attach "Batman 2" or something similar to it. Ledger will be fine. He has shown himself to be a good actor.

Agreed, great title and I too think Ledger can pull off this role...

dominizzo
08-01-2006, 02:06 PM
The Dark Knight is the PERFECT title. I just hope they don't puss out and attach "Batman 2" or something similar to it. Ledger will be fine. He has shown himself to be a good actor.


Gonzo !! You should be a Director

Pagan
08-01-2006, 02:17 PM
Some of the names being thrown out as a possible Joker were: Robin Williams, Paul Bettany, Adrin Brody, and Michael Keaton.
That's who I'd have cast. Brody has the features to play the Joker, and is a great actor.

Thank all that is holy they didn't get Robin Williams. He would have been just as over the top and buffoonish as Nicholson was.

Calling this movie The Dark Knight gives me even higher hopes for it. They're sticking with Batman being the brooding loner, and not much more sane than those he goes after.

I love it.

Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 02:33 PM
That's who I'd have cast. Brody has the features to play the Joker, and is a great actor.

Thank all that is holy they didn't get Robin Williams. He would have been just as over the top and buffoonish as Nicholson was.

Calling this movie The Dark Knight gives me even higher hopes for it. They're sticking with Batman being the brooding loner, and not much more sane than those he goes after.

I love it.

I agree about Robin Williams. He would have been awful. I think Warner Brothers was just saying he was in the running because Williams felt he got screwed out of both the Joker and Riddle parts in the original films.

I think Brody would have been a good Joker as well. I also think Johnny Depp would have been an interesting choice.

I just hope Robin doesn't make an appearance in any of these new Batman films. He totally dumbs the character of Batman down. How can Batman be scary if he has a kid following him around in a yellow, red and green costume?

I'm also a fan of The Dark Knight. It's a lot better than any of the other rumored titles I heard.

Gonzo
08-01-2006, 02:50 PM
Gonzo !! You should be a Director

:lol: :hi5:

Pagan
08-01-2006, 02:52 PM
I just hope Robin doesn't make an appearance in any of these new Batman films. He totally dumbs the character of Batman down. How can Batman be scary if he has a kid following him around in a yellow, red and green costume?
I don't think you'll have to worry about that, Ray. They asked the director what Batman would be like without Robin. His answer?

"Better."

I love this guy! :lol:

tucker
08-01-2006, 03:06 PM
edward norton would be good too

Motion
08-01-2006, 03:08 PM
edward norton would be good too

:yes: Good choice.

SkapePhin
08-01-2006, 03:13 PM
seriously, still not sold on the idea of Heath Ledger as Joker. but then again cant really think of a better choice, so ill trust those that made BB such a kick@ss movie.

Heath Ledger?!?! SAY IT ISNT SO!?!?!!?

Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 03:49 PM
I don't think you'll have to worry about that, Ray. They asked the director what Batman would be like without Robin. His answer?

"Better."

I love this guy! :lol:

:lol:

Thank the lord. I figured the best case would be a mini Robin cameo in the 3rd or 4th film, similar to Batman Forever but much less screen time, maybe just show his parents and brother dying and Bruce taking him under his wing and Robin puts on the suit in the next film.

But Nolan is 100% correct. Robin is good if you're trying to make a kids superhero movie (like Batman & Robin) but Robin would be laughed at everytime he came on the screen in the newer darker Batman movies. He just doesn't fit in.

I wonder who's going to be cast as Harvey Dent/Two-Face. I heard Josh Lucas, he might do a pretty good job and is around the same age as Christian Bale is.

Timmy54
08-01-2006, 04:02 PM
based on the first movie (by far my favorite Batman ever!) this movie will rock. Yeah some people will not like the evil Joker but he really is supposed to be very very evil.

Motion
08-01-2006, 04:20 PM
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/722/722015p1.html

More news on the sequel including rumors of the Penquin??? and casting for Harvey Dent, Ryan Phillippe?

Miamian
08-01-2006, 04:21 PM
I liked Nicholson as the Joker and thought that Williams would've been good too, but now that I think about I agree that Williams would've overdone it. Nicholson brought more evil character to the role. Not that he's really suitable for the role but, it would've actually been interesting to see Keaton in that role just for irony's sake.

What's really nice is that there is no argument about Bale. He is Batman and far outshines all the others.

NaboCane
08-01-2006, 04:22 PM
Dude...Crispin Glover should be the Joker.

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

Period. End of story.

Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 04:26 PM
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/722/722015p1.html

More news on the sequel including rumors of the Penquin??? and casting for Harvey Dent, Ryan Phillippe?

Nice post man.

Yeah I read that the Penguin if he was cast will be NOTHING like Tim Burton's Penguin. Phillip Seymour Hoffman would be a great Penguin, but I doubt he'll sign on for it but then again I wouldn't think Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, or Michael Caine would agree to do the first film.

Ryan Phillippe for Harvey Dent is an interesting choice. Another name flowing around is Liev Schrieber (Cotton Weary in the Scream series). He might make a good Dent as well.

Pagan
08-01-2006, 04:38 PM
Dude...Crispin Glover should be the Joker.

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/42359/Willard-photo_09_hires.jpg

Period. End of story.
Holy ****...didn't think of him!

AWESOME choice, Nabo! :up:

NaboCane
08-01-2006, 04:45 PM
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ohall
08-01-2006, 04:45 PM
seriously, still not sold on the idea of Heath Ledger as Joker. but then again cant really think of a better choice, so ill trust those that made BB such a kick@ss movie.

I would suspect this version of the joker is going to be much darker than what we've seen. If that's the case maybe he can pull it off, I dunno.

dQbell
08-01-2006, 04:48 PM
Favorite line from Batman Begins:

"Swear to me!"

CharlestonPhan
08-01-2006, 04:49 PM
I wonder if it will be goood or a FLOP

i heard it is going to be alot like Miami Vice Dom.

:D


just kidding dude... obviously, ive been following the thread you started on MV.

NaboCane
08-01-2006, 04:50 PM
I would suspect this version of the joker is going to be much darker than what we've seen. If that's the case maybe he can pull it off, I dunno.

I think that you're right...I'd like to see the Joker of Arkham Asylum; (the graphic novel) insane as they come, but in a darker, scarier, less clownish way than Nicholson's Joker.

The Joker in AA was a frightening figure.

CharlestonPhan
08-01-2006, 04:52 PM
Katie Holmes looks like a high schooler, and has an annoying voice. I think Batman is played out.

BB was the first movie where i didnt think that, i really thought she looked really good in that movie, in fact it kida changed my mind on her. her voice i can take or leave though.

CharlestonPhan
08-01-2006, 04:53 PM
I agree about Robin Williams. He would have been awful. I think Warner Brothers was just saying he was in the running because Williams felt he got screwed out of both the Joker and Riddle parts in the original films.

I think Brody would have been a good Joker as well. I also think Johnny Depp would have been an interesting choice.

i could not agree more...

I just hope Robin doesn't make an appearance in any of these new Batman films. He totally dumbs the character of Batman down. How can Batman be scary if he has a kid following him around in a yellow, red and green costume?

I'm also a fan of The Dark Knight. It's a lot better than any of the other rumored titles I heard.

i couldnt agree more...

In_Flames
08-01-2006, 04:55 PM
i really thought she looked really good in that movie, in fact it kida changed my mind on her. her voice i can take or leave though.

'The Gift' my friend...rent the movie 'The Gift'....or just save yourself some time and Google "Katie Holmes & The Gift" images...:D

Baxter
08-01-2006, 04:59 PM
'The Gift' my friend...rent the movie 'The Gift'....:D :yes:

CharlestonPhan
08-01-2006, 04:59 PM
Dude...Crispin Glover should be the Joker.

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/42359/Willard-photo_09_hires.jpg

Period. End of story.

hes got the look, and he is very weird in his own right...

@@@
08-01-2006, 05:00 PM
'The Gift' my friend...rent the movie 'The Gift'....or just save yourself some time and Google "Katie Holmes & The Gift"...:D:hi5:

Pagan
08-01-2006, 05:03 PM
Again, a pretty good idea of what the Joker is comes from the short film Batman: Dead End.

Google it....download it....watch it.

Best. Joker. Ever. Whoever he is.

NaboCane
08-01-2006, 05:03 PM
hes got the look, and he is very weird in his own right...

If you can pick up a copy of Arkham Asylum, you'll see what I mean...that Joker made my skin crawl.

That's what I'd love to see in this role, and it's what no one else has ever done with it before.

Also, the Joker isn't some raw kid...he's an older, savvy guy - insane plus intelligent, plus experienced - that makes for dangerous. :evil:

Pagan
08-01-2006, 05:05 PM
That's what I'd love to see in this role, and it's what no one else has ever done with it before.

Look at my post before yours Nabo. :wink:

NaboCane
08-01-2006, 05:06 PM
Look at my post before yours Nabo. :wink:

Saw it...I hope they pull the trigger on Glover, if they think of it...:D

And I have to check out that short film you mentioned. Is it on youtube?

Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 05:13 PM
"The Killing Joke" is a personal favorite of mine. Try to pick that book up. Very creepy and crazy Joker.

Pagan
08-01-2006, 05:14 PM
Saw it...I hope they pull the trigger on Glover, if they think of it...:D

And I have to check out that short film you mentioned. Is it on youtube?
No bro...it's here ---> Batman: Dead End (Warning, big download, but WELL worth it.) (http://download.theforce.net/theater/batman-deadend/Batman_Dead_End_Full_Screen.mpg)

The joker is played by a guy named Andrew Koenig. Here's pix of him in the role:

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Now THAT'S the Joker!

Pagan
08-01-2006, 05:18 PM
Hold on!!! It IS on youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XEaHA-ZBSk

Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 05:21 PM
Hold on!!! It IS on youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XEaHA-ZBSk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XEaHA-ZBSk)

Nice! I'm gonna watch it now. Thanks man.

Gonzo
08-01-2006, 05:29 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

The truth is this: The Joker has committed sins that defy logic - extortion, mass murder, nuclear terrorism - crimes often committed merely to taunt the Batman, a foe in whom the Joker has taken a very personal interest.One of the best descriptions of him. The rest of the paragraph may contain spoilers of what I think may happen in this movie. Read at your own risk (assuming you don't know the lore already).
http://www.gothamcitycentral.com/arkham.html

Also: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/ArkhamAsylum-002.jpg
:barf:

Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 05:31 PM
The Joker was extremely good. The rest though with the aliens, I don't know how I felt about it. But it was a very good short film. I liked it.

Pagan
08-01-2006, 05:42 PM
The Joker was extremely good. The rest though with the aliens, I don't know how I felt about it. But it was a very good short film. I liked it.
Yea...but that was a kick-*** fight between the Dark Knight and the Predator, huh?

One of the best Batman comic series was Batman vs. Predator (http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=1219). Pick that up if you get the chance.

NaboCane
08-01-2006, 05:43 PM
"The Killing Joke" is a personal favorite of mine. Try to pick that book up. Very creepy and crazy Joker.

YES! True, I'd forgotten that one.

Ray Finkle
08-01-2006, 05:45 PM
Yea...but that was a kick-*** fight between the Dark Knight and the Predator, huh?

One of the best Batman comic series was Batman vs. Predator (http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=1219). Pick that up if you get the chance.

Oh no doubt. I just didn't expect to see the Predator come out of nowhere to fight Batman.

NaboCane
08-01-2006, 06:15 PM
Oh no doubt. I just didn't expect to see the Predator come out of nowhere to fight Batman.

It was weird, to say the least.

NaboCane
08-01-2006, 06:16 PM
http://www.ociotakus.com/wp-content/images/Arboltsef/thumb_arkhamasylum0183qz.jpg
One of the best descriptions of him. The rest of the paragraph may contain spoilers of what I think may happen in this movie. Read at your own risk (assuming you don't know the lore already).
http://www.gothamcitycentral.com/arkham.html

Also: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/ArkhamAsylum-002.jpg
:barf:

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

Excellent...

tucker
08-01-2006, 06:56 PM
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CharlestonPhan
08-01-2006, 07:04 PM
'The Gift' my friend...rent the movie 'The Gift'....or just save yourself some time and Google "Katie Holmes & The Gift" images...:D

muchos gracias for the info! i shall do so.

SuavePhin
08-01-2006, 09:43 PM
"The Killing Joke" is a personal favorite of mine. Try to pick that book up. Very creepy and crazy Joker.


I gotta get that, been soooooooo long since i read that, but the best one IMO is A death in the family

Mephistopheles
08-01-2006, 10:28 PM
The Dark Knight.........I like it.

PhinFan0202
08-02-2006, 12:24 PM
I wonder if it will be goood or a FLOP

It's going to be tight. I liked how they did the first one so much. They went back to what made Batman such a success in the first place which was showing the dark side of him.

NaboCane
08-02-2006, 03:32 PM
The Dark Knight.........I like it.

If you get a chance to read Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns series, it's a masterpiece.

Pagan
08-02-2006, 03:40 PM
If you get a chance to read Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns series, it's a masterpiece.
:yes:

Ray Finkle
01-26-2007, 09:00 PM
Just some news on the sequel:

http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/50116/[Movies]-Big-Update-On-The-Dark-Knight.htm

Main points:

-Kate Holmes won't be back (thankfully), no word if her character will be recast or Bruce Wayne/Batman will have a new love interest. She was the weak link of the last movie (the only weakness) so I'm not upset about this.

-Josh Lucas, Ed Norton and Jaime Foxx are the finalists for Harvey "Two-Face" Dent. Personally I hope Norton or Lucas gets it. I like Jaime Foxx as an actor but Billy Dee Williams couldn't pull off the "black" Dent, I'm not sure Foxx could either. Plus I think Lucas and Norton could do a better job. My guess is Lucas gets it as Norton is a bigger name.

-Penguin will not appear in this movie.

-Christian Bale, Michael Cain and Gary Oldman are all signed on for the sequel. Morgan Freeman is not as of right now. It would be a BIG blow if he doesn't appear.

aquaman54
01-26-2007, 09:06 PM
Please no.......neither Robin williams or Heath Ledger.The Joker is a maniacal lunatic,not a polesmoker!

Phins28
01-26-2007, 09:45 PM
Please no.......neither Robin williams or Heath Ledger.The Joker is a maniacal lunatic,not a polesmoker!

Heath Ledger is gonna play the role of The Joker.

Sethdaddy8
01-26-2007, 09:57 PM
Great title choice. At first I was a little suprised by Heath Ledger, but the guy can act, and should do a solid job. Adrian Brody occured to me as well, prior to reading the 2nd post in this thread, but i think Ledger will work better with the director and give the vision of exactly what the creators want. Loonies like Brody and Nicholson for that matter, like to put thier spin on things...despite not knowing much about the subject. I love what these new creators are doing though, and I think its cool as hell that they're pretending the cookie cutter previous four movies never exited. I'm also glad they avoided getting Frank Miller involved. Granted, his "Dark Knight Returns" is incredible, and Sin City was cool, and "300" looks cool, but these Batman movies are very good, legit movies, and not too over the top, which I'm afraid Miller would have made them...consequently ending up like the other films, but in a more cryptic manner. There's a lot of talent in Hollywood, going with an unknown would be a wise route too. The huge mega star villains of the other Batmans kinda made it obnoxious. And yes...I HATE Katie Holmes in these movies...only flaw in an otherwise great movie.

Sethdaddy8
01-26-2007, 10:01 PM
Just some news on the sequel:

http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/50116/[Movies]-Big-Update-On-The-Dark-Knight.htm

Main points:

-Kate Holmes won't be back (thankfully), no word if her character will be recast or Bruce Wayne/Batman will have a new love interest. She was the weak link of the last movie (the only weakness) so I'm not upset about this.

-Josh Lucas, Ed Norton and Jaime Foxx are the finalists for Harvey "Two-Face" Dent. Personally I hope Norton or Lucas gets it. I like Jaime Foxx as an actor but Billy Dee Williams couldn't pull off the "black" Dent, I'm not sure Foxx could either. Plus I think Lucas and Norton could do a better job. My guess is Lucas gets it as Norton is a bigger name.

-Penguin will not appear in this movie.

-Christian Bale, Michael Cain and Gary Oldman are all signed on for the sequel. Morgan Freeman is not as of right now. It would be a BIG blow if he doesn't appear.

Lawrence Fishburne would be better than Jamie Fox for this role. I think Two Face is too big a character to throw in there WITH Joker. But if they must, hey, how about Jake Gilenhal? :sidelol:

Mike13
01-26-2007, 10:04 PM
Jack Nicholson should be the Joker again.

Ray Finkle
01-26-2007, 10:19 PM
Lawrence Fishburne would be better than Jamie Fox for this role. I think Two Face is too big a character to throw in there WITH Joker. But if they must, hey, how about Jake Gilenhal? :sidelol:

:lol:

I agree, more villians isn't a good thing just look at Batman and Robin. But good news is actually only Harvey Dent will appear in this film. The alter-ego Two Face will not. In fact rumors are going on that Dent won't even become Two-Face until at least the 3rd film, maybe even later, although other people have said Dent will be scarred by the end of the movie setting up Two Face to be the main bad guy in the 3rd. Nolan wants to build the character up so his turn to the "dark side" will be even more emotional. Dent actually has an interesting back story and his relationship with both Bruce Wayne and Batman will be told, Nolan just isn't going to throw Two Face in there.

Funny side note: Jake was actually considered for the part of Two Face before Heath got the Joker part. I think Heath will be an excellent Joker. I trust Nolan, he knows what he's doing.

Sethdaddy8
01-26-2007, 11:45 PM
:lol:

I agree, more villians isn't a good thing just look at Batman and Robin. But good news is actually only Harvey Dent will appear in this film. The alter-ego Two Face will not. In fact rumors are going on that Dent won't even become Two-Face until at least the 3rd film, maybe even later, although other people have said Dent will be scarred by the end of the movie setting up Two Face to be the main bad guy in the 3rd. Nolan wants to build the character up so his turn to the "dark side" will be even more emotional. Dent actually has an interesting back story and his relationship with both Bruce Wayne and Batman will be told, Nolan just isn't going to throw Two Face in there.

Funny side note: Jake was actually considered for the part of Two Face before Heath got the Joker part. I think Heath will be an excellent Joker. I trust Nolan, he knows what he's doing.


Awesome

Sethdaddy8
01-27-2007, 12:01 AM
No bro...it's here ---> Batman: Dead End (Warning, big download, but WELL worth it.) (http://download.theforce.net/theater/batman-deadend/Batman_Dead_End_Full_Screen.mpg)

The joker is played by a guy named Andrew Koenig. Here's pix of him in the role:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/Blazeland/jokergrina.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/Blazeland/jokergrina2.jpg

Now THAT'S the Joker!

What is this??? Someone just had 400K to burn? LOL...

Bruzer
01-27-2007, 12:03 AM
The original creator of Joker is a consultant on the character.

Pagan
01-27-2007, 12:49 AM
Jack Nicholson should be the Joker again.

Oh Gods please no...

DeathStar
01-27-2007, 01:08 AM
Jack Nicholson should be the Joker again.

:confused:

CARFINFAN
01-27-2007, 10:08 AM
Sounds like it is going to be another great film. I thought the new Superman sucked.

aquaman54
01-27-2007, 10:40 AM
For those that are fans of Batman and Robin,there is another short film not associated with any of the behemoth film makers.Go to youtube,and type Grayson into the search window.It is a short film about Robin after Batmans supposed death.It is about 5:30 long,but well worth a look.The director is currently trying to make his mark by wooing the Big Dawg film makers such as MGM/Paramount etc.There also is an AWESOME Joker in this along with Catwoman/Penguin/Green Lantern/Superman/and Wonder Woman.Really Guys......Take a few minutes to watch this.A little far fetched,but also breathtaking.......THANKS/Aquaman54

FinsAreLife
01-27-2007, 10:52 AM
yay another batman movie

Bruzer
01-27-2007, 11:09 AM
Sounds like it is going to be another great film. I thought the new Superman sucked.

I loved the new superman.

Ray Finkle
01-27-2007, 12:05 PM
I loved the new superman.

I thought it was ok, interesting to see but only ok. Of course maybe that's because I'm a total Batman fan and think Superman is lame due to all his powers etc. I think the next Superman film will be better.

Bruzer
01-27-2007, 12:38 PM
See I love all the comic movies mainly I watch smallville, I like spiderman, xmen, batman all of them lol.

tucker
01-27-2007, 01:34 PM
superman was one of the worst of last yr

tucker
01-27-2007, 01:35 PM
and ed norton would be a good pick

SuavePhin
01-27-2007, 03:48 PM
For those that are fans of Batman and Robin,there is another short film not associated with any of the behemoth film makers.Go to youtube,and type Grayson into the search window.It is a short film about Robin after Batmans supposed death.It is about 5:30 long,but well worth a look.The director is currently trying to make his mark by wooing the Big Dawg film makers such as MGM/Paramount etc.There also is an AWESOME Joker in this along with Catwoman/Penguin/Green Lantern/Superman/and Wonder Woman.Really Guys......Take a few minutes to watch this.A little far fetched,but also breathtaking.......THANKS/Aquaman54

Wow, that was well done, and i think it would be a great movie.

Pagan
01-27-2007, 03:56 PM
Isn't it amazing how these independent short movies manage to capture the Joker the way he should be, and the big name companies can't?

That was excellent...and though I'm no fan of Robin, I'd actually like to see a full-length feature of that.

Mindwarp
01-27-2007, 04:06 PM
The Dark Knight is the PERFECT title. I just hope they don't puss out and attach "Batman 2" or something similar to it. Ledger will be fine. He has shown himself to be a good actor.


+1

Ray Finkle
01-27-2007, 04:08 PM
Isn't it amazing how these independent short movies manage to capture the Joker the way he should be, and the big name companies can't?

That was excellent...and though I'm no fan of Robin, I'd actually like to see a full-length feature of that.

Well I did like Jack's Joker, but you're right it wasn't how the character really is in the comics.

Have faith in Nolan, my friend, have faith in Nolan. I'm expecting an awesome Joker in Dark Knight. The Joker the way he's suppose to be.

Quelonio
01-27-2007, 05:10 PM
Isn't it amazing how these independent short movies manage to capture the Joker the way he should be, and the big name companies can't?

That was excellent...and though I'm no fan of Robin, I'd actually like to see a full-length feature of that.

I think it has to do with fear, there is no one that fears to take a risk like a hollywood producer. Hollywood producers are scared of anything that might be too much for a regular viewing audience, and do not want to scare off people that they think would run to the movie theaters. And actual comic lovers tend to not be exactly in the mainstream...

Bruzer
01-27-2007, 05:14 PM
Well I read the new writer is making the joker more evil and crazy than portrayed in any other movie.

As for superman I guess I didn't see what is so bad about it.

SuavePhin
01-27-2007, 05:28 PM
Isn't it amazing how these independent short movies manage to capture the Joker the way he should be, and the big name companies can't?

That was excellent...and though I'm no fan of Robin, I'd actually like to see a full-length feature of that.

The main draw to me is the storyline, i like the fact that they actually have a MORTAL, actually DIE for a change, and the fact it is a Major character, not some joe schmoe no one really cares about, one of the greatest comic classics imo, is when Robin ACTUALLY died, and the storyline following the event was very well done, which i think would make for a GREAT movie ie Grayson, it's a shame though that we'll probably never see this kind of "what if" made into a movie :boohoo:

phunwin
01-27-2007, 05:45 PM
and ed norton would be a good pick

For the Joker? Absolutely. That's a great call.

Not in love with the idea of Heath Ledger playing The Joker. I've always thought he's a very flat actor. To be fair, I didn't see Brokeback, in which he was supposedly very good. So, I should give him a chance.

I'll tell you who else would have been a great Joker: Sean Penn. They were probably looking for someone younger, but I think Penn could have pulled that part off like a pro. And goodness knows, he's available.

As for Superman Returns, I like it. At least, I think I liked it. I loved Batman Begins; it's cracked my fabled Phunwin's Top 10 Movies Ever List. But Superman Returns felt a little long, and the plot twists a little predictable. (Seriously, who didn't figure out right away that kid was you-know-who's?) Kevin Spacey's ridiculously over-the-top Lex Luthor helped a lot, though. Without that, I would have been very disappointed, instead of only marginally disappointed.

Bruzer
01-27-2007, 06:14 PM
I will agree on the predictable moments in superman but overall I liked it.

Ray Finkle
01-27-2007, 06:28 PM
For the Joker? Absolutely. That's a great call.

Not in love with the idea of Heath Ledger playing The Joker. I've always thought he's a very flat actor. To be fair, I didn't see Brokeback, in which he was supposedly very good. So, I should give him a chance.

I'll tell you who else would have been a great Joker: Sean Penn. They were probably looking for someone younger, but I think Penn could have pulled that part off like a pro. And goodness knows, he's available.

As for Superman Returns, I like it. At least, I think I liked it. I loved Batman Begins; it's cracked my fabled Phunwin's Top 10 Movies Ever List. But Superman Returns felt a little long, and the plot twists a little predictable. (Seriously, who didn't figure out right away that kid was you-know-who's?) Kevin Spacey's ridiculously over-the-top Lex Luthor helped a lot, though. Without that, I would have been very disappointed, instead of only marginally disappointed.

LIAR!

Anyway now that I got that out of my system, I agree I think Sean Penn would have been a good Joker. I like Norton was Two-Face as he could be a nice guy you want to cheer for and also a jerk who you want to kick in the face. Which is perfect with Two-Face.

And Batman Begins topped Ray Finkle's Top 10 movie list as well!

Quelonio
01-27-2007, 07:13 PM
For the Joker? Absolutely. That's a great call.

Not in love with the idea of Heath Ledger playing The Joker. I've always thought he's a very flat actor. To be fair, I didn't see Brokeback, in which he was supposedly very good. So, I should give him a chance..

He was really really good in brockeback, but it wasnt a role that makes you think this guy is made to play the joker... it was more the opposite, a very quite thoughtfull role.

Samphin
01-27-2007, 07:35 PM
In the Grayson movie preview, Kimberly Page plays Cat woman. For those who may be familiar with the world of Pro Wrestling, She used to be married to DDP (Diamond Dallas Page).

Ray Finkle
01-27-2007, 10:18 PM
In the Grayson movie preview, Kimberly Page plays Cat woman. For those who may be familiar with the world of Pro Wrestling, She used to be married to DDP (Diamond Dallas Page).

I KNEW SHE LOOKED FAMILIAR! Good call man. Does anyone know where you could get the movie? It looks sweet.

Samphin
01-27-2007, 11:45 PM
I KNEW SHE LOOKED FAMILIAR! Good call man. Does anyone know where you could get the movie? It looks sweet.


It is only a trailer. The director (plays Robin in the film) said it took 18 months to make the trailer.

Hellion
01-28-2007, 12:31 AM
I think it has to do with fear, there is no one that fears to take a risk like a hollywood producer. Hollywood producers are scared of anything that might be too much for a regular viewing audience, and do not want to scare off people that they think would run to the movie theaters. And actual comic lovers tend to not be exactly in the mainstream...


No they are afraid of getting an R rating that would keep a big demographic at home. If they could get away with twice as much sex and violence and still get a PG-13 they would.

Prime Time
01-28-2007, 02:04 PM
That Grayson movie coud be good. I think that in the 3rd or 4th one, they should add Robin. Just as dark as the one I just saw in the Grayson Preview. Possible a very angry Robin who is upset about his parents death. Not like Chris O'Donnell, but a darker side. I think it would be cool :yes:

Ray Finkle
01-28-2007, 02:19 PM
That Grayson movie coud be good. I think that in the 3rd or 4th one, they should add Robin. Just as dark as the one I just saw in the Grayson Preview. Possible a very angry Robin who is upset about his parents death. Not like Chris O'Donnell, but a darker side. I think it would be cool :yes:

I hope not. I really hate the character, him being there would kind of ruin the dark feel to it in my opinion.

Ray Finkle
02-16-2007, 06:50 PM
Some news:

Two-Face/Harvey Dent has been cast, Aaron Eckhart will play the role.

Also Maggie Gyllenhaal is rumored to be playing the role of Rachel Dawes.

Bruzer
02-16-2007, 06:54 PM
Some news:

Two-Face/Harvey Dent has been cast, Aaron Eckhart will play the role.

Also Maggie Gyllenhaal is rumored to be playing the role of Rachel Dawes.

Interresting although if I remember when I read that in this one he isn't two face to begin with its when hes a DA helping find the joker. Although im sure they show him become two face.

Ray Finkle
02-16-2007, 06:58 PM
Interresting although if I remember when I read that in this one he isn't two face to begin with its when hes a DA helping find the joker. Although im sure they show him become two face.

You're correct. The plan is to have this movie show the relationship being built between Dent and Bruce and also Dent and Batman. He might not even turn into "Two-Face" in this movie at all. They want to slowly build his character so when he turns, he really turns.

Bruzer
02-16-2007, 07:08 PM
You're correct. The plan is to have this movie show the relationship being built between Dent and Bruce and also Dent and Batman. He might not even turn into "Two-Face" in this movie at all. They want to slowly build his character so when he turns, he really turns.

Yea thats what I was thinking it will be very interresting to see.

spydertl79
02-16-2007, 07:57 PM
Hmmmmm, any relation to the Frank Miller graphic novel?

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Ray Finkle
02-16-2007, 09:15 PM
Nah the Frank Miller novel, if I remember correctly, is about the last days of Batman's career.

This movie picks up right where the other movie (Batman Begins) leaves off.