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Finole
08-01-2006, 05:37 PM
For me, it begins and ends with Dan Marino. I was 13-years old and a huge Dolphins fan when he began his career in 1983. And I was 30-years-old when he retired.

I never saw anybody throw the ball like he did.

MR NFLFAN
08-01-2006, 05:49 PM
For me the best QB was Ray Lucas!

Majpain
08-01-2006, 06:17 PM
For me the best QB was Ray Lucas!

Dont you got some *** kissing somewhere?

playmaker1
08-01-2006, 09:01 PM
Dan The Man. There shouldn't be any other options

TotoreMexico
08-01-2006, 09:03 PM
:hail:Marino

ganooch
08-01-2006, 09:28 PM
elway. he was a leader, had a rocket arm, could run with the ball, numerous come from behind victories, 2 superbowls.

Marino was an awesome quarterback and has all the numbers to back it up. I give elway the nod because he was the whole package.

Montana was awesome as well but i look at him more of "system' qb.

Silverphin
08-01-2006, 09:37 PM
Marino. 'Nuff said.

Dolfan984
08-01-2006, 10:14 PM
Dan Marino. Watch some of his old games and you'll see why.

Prophet
08-01-2006, 10:20 PM
I loved watching Marino, but I'm going with Montana on this one.

dominizzo
08-01-2006, 10:40 PM
Dan MArino!! His stats prove it!! so what he didn"t win a Super Bowl!!

Montana and the Aikmans and the BRadshaws and the Bradys had a team built around them!! MArino never had a running game nor Defense

305TillIDie
08-01-2006, 10:48 PM
Marino :wink:

DolphinDevil28
08-02-2006, 12:20 AM
The whole reason I am a huge Dolphins fan is because of Dan Marino.

Not vice versa.

The man was simply the most talented thrower to ever step on a field and touch a football.

Every NFL team has a "quarterback coach."

Miami's QB coach in 1983 told Dan, "Son, I don't care what happens, don't EVER let anyone ever tell you how to throw a football."

...And that was that.

1finzfan
08-02-2006, 06:24 PM
Come on ppl we all kno who's da Best QB, DAN MARINO!!!!!... dont even kno why we are discussing dis....

newbetterbucs05
08-02-2006, 06:52 PM
I say Dan Marino

BE GOOD
08-02-2006, 07:27 PM
LOL. Come on we all know that answer..

MR NFLFAN
08-02-2006, 08:33 PM
I wouldn't say Marino was the best QB but he was certainly one of the best QB's that never won anything. He more of a stat hoe.

ThePats
08-02-2006, 09:02 PM
Well Marino and Peyton need a ring. Marino its too late, Peyton I hope he never reaches the Superbowl. Until then its Montana.

HurriPhin
08-02-2006, 11:18 PM
I wouldn't say Marino was the best QB but he was certainly one of the best QB's that never won anything. He more of a stat hoe.

a stat hoe? I would say Dan's a stat PIMP!
MARINO BABY!

Jesus Quintana
08-03-2006, 01:06 PM
MArino never had a running game nor Defense

Actually, as this article (http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=57) shows, that is a myth created by Marino fans seeking to justify the fact that he could not elevate his game when the chips were all on the table. You get a pass though since you are too young to actually remember those teams Marino had in the beginning of his career.

As a pure passer, there was noone better than Marino. But the all-time greatest? That has to be a combination of leadership, winning, skill, and stats. I'd have to go with Montana personally, although Elway is a close second.

3rd and long
08-03-2006, 02:29 PM
I believe Marino possessed more skills than any other quarterback in terms of playing the position. Jaworski always talked about Marino's vision how he could see everything quickly. Put that with the quick release, the underrated footwork, the rifle arm. Awesome. In my mind you can't blame him for not winning a championship because football is the ultimate team game. There are 53 players on a team, 3 units, and a quarterback is on the field less than half the time. However, you can't say he's the best without the championship. I grew up watching Marino, Elway, and Montana and they are the three greatest in my mind. You don't see that many 4th quarter comebacks anymore, like you did regulary with those guys. Amazing.

Motion
08-03-2006, 02:34 PM
Johnny Unitas and Bart Starr are definitely up there. Can't believe Starr isn't listed.

Dolfan984
08-03-2006, 02:56 PM
Actually, as this article (http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=57) shows, that is a myth created by Marino fans seeking to justify the fact that he could not elevate his game when the chips were all on the table. You get a pass though since you are too young to actually remember those teams Marino had in the beginning of his career.

As a pure passer, there was noone better than Marino. But the all-time greatest? That has to be a combination of leadership, winning, skill, and stats. I'd have to go with Montana personally, although Elway is a close second.

You're right. From 1983-1986 Marino did have a decent team around him. As you can tell that's also when he was tearing up teams for 40+ tds a season. After 1987 he didn't have crap, and even in 1986 he had no defense.

The 49ers had GREAT GREAT defenses, Elway had the best runner in the league at the time. When Favre won his superbowl the Packers had the #1 defense in the league. Give Marino any of that, and he has a championship to.
Hmm Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, or Dan Marino? Do you think Marino could've won with the 00' Ravens or 02' Bucs? Absolutely.

A great quarterback does not = a championship. It just means you're going to be competitive. You need a complete team to win the superbowl, and for most of Marino's career, he was playing for a middle market team in a non salary cap era. The 49ers were the yankees of the NFL. Screw Joe Montana.

Prophet
08-03-2006, 03:23 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.NFLclutchqbs/content.10.html
Top 10 Clutch Quarterbacks of All Time
1. Montana
2. Unitas
3. Elway
4. Brady
5. Starr
6. Namath
7. Marino
8. Graham
9. Aikman
10. Bradshaw

ThePats
08-03-2006, 04:20 PM
A great quarterback does not = a championship. It just means you're going to be competitive. You need a complete team to win the superbowl, and for most of Marino's career, he was playing for a middle market team in a non salary cap era. The 49ers were the yankees of the NFL. Screw Joe Montana.
Actually it does. If you cant lead your team to a Superbowl victory when you are fully capable of it, your season has been a faliure. Manning and Marino are amazing! Manning's a better stat hoe...

QB's are leaders, you've got to lead your team to the finish line if you're the best of all time, neither Marino nor Manning has been capable of doing so. Clutch plays an enormous part in being a good QB. If I am correct...the purpose of playing football and being a Quarterback is to win championships not just to be able to say, I put up amazing stats.

Manning beat one of Marino's records...hes had so many 4000 yard seasons. You could make a case for Manning against Marino.

Its all about the ring.

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Spray Mucus
08-03-2006, 04:47 PM
For me the best QB was Ray Lucas!

I think he meant best QB to PLAY in the NFL, not the QB you'de like to date the most.

now that I clearified, vote accordingly.

Dolfan984
08-03-2006, 05:08 PM
Actually it does. If you cant lead your team to a Superbowl victory when you are fully capable of it, your season has been a faliure. Manning and Marino are amazing! Manning's a better stat hoe...

QB's are leaders, you've got to lead your team to the finish line if you're the best of all time, neither Marino nor Manning has been capable of doing so. Clutch plays an enormous part in being a good QB. If I am correct...the purpose of playing football and being a Quarterback is to win championships not just to be able to say, I put up amazing stats.

Manning beat one of Marino's records...hes had so many 4000 yard seasons. You could make a case for Manning against Marino.

Its all about the ring.

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So Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are better Quarterbacks than Dan?

You tell me

Here's a hypothetical situation. Give me your answer.
There's two teams

One QB throws for 200 yards 2 tds and 1 int

the other QB throws for 300 yards 3 tds and 1 int

QB #1s team ran for 150 yards
QB #2s team ran for 45 yards

QB #1 team's Defense is the best in the league
QB #2 team's defense is the worst in the league

The score was 35-28 in favor of QB #1s team

Who was the better QB.

djfresh47
08-03-2006, 11:23 PM
Dan MArino!! His stats prove it!! so what he didn"t win a Super Bowl!!

Montana and the Aikmans and the BRadshaws and the Bradys had a team built around them!! MArino never had a running game nor Defense


One would argue that if Dan had a running game he wouldn't have the same stats.

Does Steve Young still have the highest QB rating ever? If Brady wins another championship I think he surpasses Montana, IMO but i've got Elway.

Vertical Limit
08-03-2006, 11:31 PM
One would argue that if Dan had a running game he wouldn't have the same stats.
That's true. Our games were pretty much one dimensional especially without the running game.

You can't win without a running game; the running game is what sets everything up.

ih8brady
08-04-2006, 12:25 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.NFLclutchqbs/content.10.html
Top 10 Clutch Quarterbacks of All Time
1. Montana
2. Unitas
3. Elway
4. Brady
5. Starr
6. Namath
7. Marino
8. Graham
9. Aikman
10. Bradshaw

Namath is so overrated, he's about as clutch as he is sober.

DolFan74
08-04-2006, 01:24 PM
Dan the Man was the Best QB,if the Niners would have had him they would have won a SB almost every yr if not every yr during the yrs the Niners dominated the NFL.Im not saying Montana wasnt great,he was,but Marino was The Best.

DolFan74
08-04-2006, 01:33 PM
Here's a hypothetical situation. Give me your answer.
There's two teams

One QB throws for 200 yards 2 tds and 1 int

the other QB throws for 300 yards 3 tds and 1 int

QB #1s team ran for 150 yards
QB #2s team ran for 45 yards

QB #1 team's Defense is the best in the league
QB #2 team's defense is the worst in the league

The score was 35-28 in favor of QB #1s team

Who was the better QB.

#2 had more yards and TD's So he would be for that 1 game..even tho his team lost.

fish920
08-06-2006, 02:43 AM
in a HUGE miami fan but i have to go with montana.... sorry dan :dolphins:

Straztheman
08-06-2006, 03:19 PM
in a HUGE miami fan but i have to go with montana.... sorry dan :dolphins:

montanas teams where always stacked i cant stand it when people tell me that montana is better than marino you put marino on montanas 49ers teams marino would have won a super bowl every year.

Straztheman
08-06-2006, 03:20 PM
Dan Marino look at the stats.

Dolfan984
08-06-2006, 04:26 PM
in a HUGE miami fan but i have to go with montana.... sorry dan :dolphins:

Bro, the 49ers defense was SICK in the 80s. You ever watch the Dolphins 49ers Superbowl from 1985? Marino had one good drive against them, Walsh figured it out and then just overwhelmed the whole team while they ran the ball down our small defensive linemens' throats.

Amars
08-06-2006, 04:41 PM
Elway.

DolFan74
08-08-2006, 06:10 PM
Though my favorite is Dan the Man of course and a close 2nd is Joe Montana,I see that Warren Moon wasnt on the list..How is that possible?,the dude threw for 49325 yards in just his NFL Career..Just think of the yardage he would have thrown for if he had played his entire career in the NFL and not 5 or 6 in the CFL.

OJMcDuffie
08-09-2006, 08:38 PM
As if there is any choice but one: Dan the man.