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Pagan
08-02-2006, 01:51 PM
:fire: :fire: :fire:

from the NY Daily News:


China kills 50,000 dogs

SHANGHAI - China slaughtered 50,000 dogs in a government-ordered crackdown after three people died of rabies, sparking unusually pointed criticism in state media yesterday and an outcry from animal rights activists.

The five-day slaughter in Mouding County in Yunnan province in southwestern China ended Sunday and spared only military guard dogs and police canine units, state media reported.

Dogs being walked were seized from their owners and beaten to death on the spot, the Shanghai Daily newspaper reported.

UltraDol-Fan
08-02-2006, 01:54 PM
OMG that is so wrong.:shakeno:

Motion
08-02-2006, 02:05 PM
I'd be dead or in prison for murder if I lived there. Thats completely wrong.

Motion
08-02-2006, 02:12 PM
:fire: This just put me in a really bad mood. The country with the worst overpopulation problems in the world and their killing dogs like that!?!? Because of 3 freakin' people!!! Maybe they need to control their people more instead of the dogs.

cnc66
08-02-2006, 02:13 PM
I'd be dead or in prison for murder if I lived there. Thats completely wrong.

yep...me too bro...I love my hippo headed dog...and he's chinese too...

YM305
08-02-2006, 02:14 PM
That is wrong in so many ways.:shakeno:

In_Flames
08-02-2006, 02:20 PM
ok this article/news has seriously pissed me off for the rest of the day....its just appalling they can get away with that....:fire:

FinsNYanksFan13
08-02-2006, 02:29 PM
One word....KARMA!

dominizzo
08-02-2006, 02:30 PM
TIme to Bomb China

Majpain
08-02-2006, 02:41 PM
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060801/060801_chinadog_hmed_1p.rp420x400.jpg (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Componenhmed_1p.rp420x400.jpg)


Why did you show a picture?:boohoo:

Motion
08-02-2006, 02:42 PM
TIme to Bomb China

:yes:

icephinfan
08-02-2006, 03:11 PM
Why did you show a picture?:boohoo:

EXACTLY!!!!:fire:

YM305
08-02-2006, 03:18 PM
Why did you show a picture?:boohoo:
:nono:

dQbell
08-02-2006, 03:21 PM
Unbelievable. Are they that primitive?

Buddwalk
08-02-2006, 03:55 PM
thats totally wrong :nono:

305TillIDie
08-02-2006, 03:58 PM
damn..thats ****ed up yo :nono:

Baxter
08-02-2006, 04:08 PM
Damn Commies:shakeno:

UltraDol-Fan
08-02-2006, 04:12 PM
this is one instance I want PETA to go over there and kick some butt!

NaboCane
08-02-2006, 04:16 PM
:fire: :fire: :fire:

from the NY Daily News:



I saw this yesterday and it saddened me deeply. The picture that accompanied the article on yahoo was gruesome.

I've always noted how much cheaper life in general becomes the farther east you travel from Europe; it's startling how cheap it is in the rural and obviously rampantly ignorant provinces of China.

Stories of how the Chinese government allows treatment of its Moon Bears, and accounts of cats and dogs being skinned alive (apparently, even killing them quickly and mercifully is too much to ask of these people) to make fur coats for export are beyond comprehension, yet it happens every day there.

Can you imagine going to work every day, and having the screams of tortured animals be your music throughout your 10-12 hour workday, and being so callous as to becomed used to it?

BlitPhinFan
08-02-2006, 04:18 PM
Unbelievable. What the hell is wrong with those people? For F's sake they could have at least made it quick and as painless as possible, but no... they've got to beat them to death with sticks?!? I am pissed that they killed 50k dogs because of 3 people, but I am down-right infuriated at the manner in which they did it.

Sick, just sick!

Spray Mucus
08-02-2006, 05:18 PM
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060801/060801_chinadog_hmed_1p.rp420x400.jpg

I sure hope that's a pinyata that China man is hitting.

or else


TIme to Bomb China

Scrap
08-02-2006, 05:21 PM
TIme to Bomb ChinaI'd feel wrong saying that I agree. So I just won't say it okay ? :wink:


This sickens me. I love dogs more than people.

NaboCane
08-02-2006, 06:23 PM
yep...me too bro...I love my hippo headed dog...and he's chinese too...

Just one more danger inherent to a disarmed populace.

The Rev
08-02-2006, 06:32 PM
Just wrong. :nono:

King Felix
08-02-2006, 06:45 PM
:shakeno:

Dolphin1184
08-02-2006, 06:52 PM
I believe this is a perfect thread for: :shakeno:

Perfect23
08-02-2006, 06:53 PM
damn I love dogs:boohoo:

Fin Fan in Cali
08-02-2006, 07:29 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif (http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/John5499/?start=#imgAnch3)
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif (http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f169/John5499/?start=#imgAnch4)

My kids as we call them, Sammy in the first one, and Sheba in the second say that's not cool at all. That is some real sad stuff there.:(

Puka-head
08-02-2006, 08:34 PM
I think a trade boycott is in order. If it says made in China, don't buy it. Thus they demonstrate the value of life??? Maybe all our olympic athletes could carry stuffed animal dogs in Beijing. Or F.it, bomb the SOB's:tantrum:... with dog****, I've got bags of it I'll donate. Maybe we could mail all our dog**** to Chinese gov't offices, that'd be fun. Sick people.

NaboCane
08-02-2006, 08:41 PM
I think a trade boycott is in order. If it says made in China, don't buy it. Thus they demonstrate the value of life??? Maybe all our olympic athletes could carry stuffed animal dogs in Beijing. Or F.it, bomb the SOB's:tantrum:... with dog****, I've got bags of it I'll donate. Maybe we could mail all our dog**** to Chinese gov't offices, that'd be fun. Sick people.

Hey, I think you're onto something...if someone could post the address for the party office in Beijing, this might be the start of something big!

My neighbor's got a whole bucketfull of dog poop at any given time...:evil:

unluckyluciano
08-02-2006, 08:43 PM
Yeah that is sick as hell. I love how humanity insists on passing its problems on to an animal that can not prevent the disease and not the people who perpetuate it. Why couldnt they just have a government rabie shot drive or something.................they took the easy way out.

Noodle Arm
08-02-2006, 08:47 PM
I thought they only killed dogs in the alleyways behind Chinese restaurants.

This is disgusting :shakeno:

Silverphin
08-02-2006, 08:49 PM
Aw damn....

TJamesW_phinfan
08-02-2006, 08:58 PM
My first response was Nuke em! Then I thought about it and decided with unemotional calrity... NUKE EM.

Ok I know that's not an option or solution but that is so freaking sickning. I hope the guys with the sticks die slowly and horribly of severe crotch rot.

Slappy8800
08-02-2006, 09:22 PM
u people act so surprised...this is the same country where some parents kill their child if it isnt a male.

unluckyluciano
08-02-2006, 09:27 PM
u people act so surprised...this is the same country where some parents kill their child if it isnt a male.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH good one.

StaticAge
08-02-2006, 09:40 PM
:nono:

Coral Reefer
08-02-2006, 11:18 PM
Hey, I think you're onto something...if someone could post the address for the party office in Beijing, this might be the start of something big!

My neighbor's got a whole bucketfull of dog poop at any given time...:evil:

http://www.dogdoo.com/Default.asp

There you go. They'll even gift wrap it for you.
I've used them before and can vouch for their work.

I'm not really shocked about this.
The Asian part of the world is known for killing many animals for rediculous reasons

Slaughtering Gorillas and rhinos simply for their paws/rhino horns for sexual fertility

Live monkeys delivered to tables to eat a still living brain for increased intellect.

Shark finning for bogus fountain of youth products.

Dolphins mass slaughtered to "protect" their fisheries.... like its the Dolphins and not them overfishing. :shakeno: That one really burns me up. It's so ignorant.

I could go on about all the whacked out stuff that goes on over there but I think you get the point.

Ray Finkle
08-02-2006, 11:19 PM
First they kidnap Jack Bauer now they're killing dogs? WTF.

Slappy8800
08-02-2006, 11:21 PM
First they kidnap Jack Bauer now they're killing dogs? WTF.

they also rape butterflies

Slappy8800
08-02-2006, 11:24 PM
i know...sick *******s

Coral Reefer
08-02-2006, 11:24 PM
they also rape butterflies

I've heard they can be on the small side down below but butterflies??

Scrap
08-03-2006, 07:07 AM
One thing that's worrying me, is why some of you may have saved dog poop.

Miamian
08-03-2006, 08:31 AM
China may be the most amoral country on earth.

mor911
08-03-2006, 10:26 AM
Ok, I'll probly get trashed on for this, but I'll play the "bad guy".

What is a human life worth? Is a human life worth more than a dog's? China has a huge over poplutation issue. What are they at, 1.5 Billion people? They are also borderline 3rd world... So what's more economical to keep your people safe? Worry about vaccinations for 1.5 billion folks, or exterminate some dogs? They chose the dogs route... I'm not trying ot say it's right... I definitely don't agree with them murdering people's pets. I'm just trying to see the logic behid what they did.

Try not to look at it like genocide or a mass murder. Maybe the chinese people were getting really upset and demanding action... Then the government went over board... who knows. All I know is it ain't right to downtalk an entire group of people (in this case the chinese) based on an action that the government did.

Spray Mucus
08-03-2006, 10:32 AM
Ok, I'll probly get trashed on for this, but I'll play the "bad guy".

What is a human life worth? Is a human life worth more than a dog's? China has a huge over poplutation issue. What are they at, 1.5 Billion people? They are also borderline 3rd world... So what's more economical to keep your people safe? Worry about vaccinations for 1.5 billion folks, or exterminate some dogs? They chose the dogs route... I'm not trying ot say it's right... I definitely don't agree with them murdering people's pets. I'm just trying to see the logic behid what they did.

Try not to look at it like genocide or a mass murder. Maybe the chinese people were getting really upset and demanding action... Then the government went over board... who knows. All I know is it ain't right to downtalk an entire group of people (in this case the chinese) based on an action that the government did.

translation.... more Chinese women for Mor.

Miamian
08-03-2006, 10:33 AM
Ok, I'll probly get trashed on for this, but I'll play the "bad guy".

What is a human life worth? Is a human life worth more than a dog's? China has a huge over poplutation issue. What are they at, 1.5 Billion people? They are also borderline 3rd world... So what's more economical to keep your people safe? Worry about vaccinations for 1.5 billion folks, or exterminate some dogs? They chose the dogs route... I'm not trying ot say it's right... I definitely don't agree with them murdering people's pets. I'm just trying to see the logic behid what they did.

Try not to look at it like genocide or a mass murder. Maybe the chinese people were getting really upset and demanding action... Then the government went over board... who knows. All I know is it ain't right to downtalk an entire group of people (in this case the chinese) based on an action that the government did.There's probably not a country that doesn't have this issue. The morality is in the approach. They just simply and literally beat the dogs to death. First, the owners could show documentation. They're still largely a socialist system, so they have an established bureaucracy and they should have a ministry that deals with issues of this type. Even if they decided that a potential crisis was looming and they had to take swift and decisive action, they could humanely euthanize the animals as most civilized countries do.

Spray Mucus
08-03-2006, 10:39 AM
There's probably not a country that doesn't have this issue. The morality is in the approach. They just simply and literally beat the dogs to death. First, the owners could show documentation. They're still largely a socialist system, so they have an established bureaucracy and they should have a ministry that deals with issues of this type. Even if they decided that a potential crisis was looming and they had to take swift and decisive action, they could humanely euthanize the animals as most civilized countries do.

Bingo!

I think that's the reason why most of us are up in arms... it's the style of the killings... and the fact that they where killing peoples pets, pets that where loved.

unluckyluciano
08-03-2006, 10:42 AM
Bingo!

I think that's the reason why most of us are up in arms... it's the style of the killings... and the fact that they where killing peoples pets, pets that where loved.

Agreed.

@@@
08-03-2006, 10:46 AM
I agree with the Mor, I imagine killing 50,000 dogs humainly is a ridiculously costly procedure which probably weighed into China's thinking, also worth baring in mind is that dogs are often used for food in China much as cattle etc are here and in the U.S, just because another nation has different morality regarding a species of animal doesn't make them wrong, what makes you me or anyone else any better placed to judge the value of a dogs life than them?

mor911
08-03-2006, 10:47 AM
Bingo!

I think that's the reason why most of us are up in arms... it's the style of the killings... and the fact that they where killing peoples pets, pets that where loved.I'm definitely NOT saying I agree with any of it... Especially the style of killings and the fact that the killed pets. I was just trying to play devil's advocate and bring some understanding to the table... All thread been "the chinese are stupid" or "the chinese are crazy" (not exactly - but to that effect).

Miamian
08-03-2006, 10:50 AM
I agree with the Mor, I imagine killing 50,000 dogs humainly is a ridiculously costly procedure which probably weighed into China's thinking, also worth baring in mind is that dogs are often used for food in China much as cattle etc are here and in the U.S, just because another nation has different morality regarding a species of animal doesn't make them wrong, what makes you me or anyone else any better placed to judge the value of a dogs life than them?What country doesn't have poverty. They have one of the fastest growing economies in the world. Besides with wealth, comes liberal-mindedness, so it's not improbable that a few of their new multi-millionaires could have donated a few hundred thousand and score with "in-crowd."

Miamian
08-03-2006, 10:51 AM
I'm definitely NOT saying I agree with any of it... Especially the style of killings and the fact that the killed pets. I was just trying to play devil's advocate and bring some understanding to the table... All thread been "the chinese are stupid" or "the chinese are crazy" (not exactly - but to that effect).
I don't think that any of us, certainly not me, would accuse you of being callous. It's all seen in the context of debate.

Spray Mucus
08-03-2006, 10:54 AM
I'm definitely NOT saying I agree with any of it... Especially the style of killings and the fact that the killed pets. I was just trying to play devil's advocate and bring some understanding to the table...

I wasn't disagreeing with you either. I can see the point... People are top of the food chain, it's just that cut and dry.


All thread been "the chinese are stupid" or "the chinese are crazy" (not exactly - but to that effect).

Well I do blame the Chinese for the Civil war we had in this country.

@@@
08-03-2006, 11:02 AM
What country doesn't have poverty. They have one of the fastest growing economies in the world. Besides with wealth, comes liberal-mindedness, so it's not improbable that a few of their new multi-millionaires could have donated a few hundred thousand and score with "in-crowd."I agree, i was just trying to come up with some reason behind the Brutal cull and pointing out that the're culture is different and is slaughtering 50,000 dogs anywhere near as crazy/unnecessary as the amount of "Nuke the Chinese" etc comments that have appeared in this thread

mor911
08-03-2006, 11:12 AM
I agree, i was just trying to come up with some reason behind the Brutal cull and pointing out that the're culture is different and is slaughtering 50,000 dogs anywhere near as crazy/unnecessary as the amount of "Nuke the Chinese" etc comments that have appeared in this threadExactly

SpurzN703
08-03-2006, 11:21 AM
Ok, I'll probly get trashed on for this, but I'll play the "bad guy".

What is a human life worth? Is a human life worth more than a dog's? China has a huge over poplutation issue. What are they at, 1.5 Billion people? They are also borderline 3rd world... So what's more economical to keep your people safe? Worry about vaccinations for 1.5 billion folks, or exterminate some dogs? They chose the dogs route... I'm not trying ot say it's right... I definitely don't agree with them murdering people's pets. I'm just trying to see the logic behid what they did.

Try not to look at it like genocide or a mass murder. Maybe the chinese people were getting really upset and demanding action... Then the government went over board... who knows. All I know is it ain't right to downtalk an entire group of people (in this case the chinese) based on an action that the government did.

Whatever happened to pet adoption? They can't give these animals to people outside of the troubled area?

And that yahoo pic that was posted, thats one of the worst things I've ever looked at in my life. I honestly hope those *******s who participated in those acts really get theirs in the end. :mad:

Scrap
08-03-2006, 11:26 AM
While arrogant in some ways, I'm a very humble person in the sense of believing that my life is no more important to my creator (than the life of a dog). I feel that killing 50,000 dogs was an unethical act, no matter what the circumstances were. To look at any of it from an economic standpoint, puts a value on life.

Motion
08-03-2006, 11:26 AM
Ok, I'll probly get trashed on for this, but I'll play the "bad guy".

What is a human life worth? Is a human life worth more than a dog's? China has a huge over poplutation issue. What are they at, 1.5 Billion people? They are also borderline 3rd world... So what's more economical to keep your people safe? Worry about vaccinations for 1.5 billion folks, or exterminate some dogs? They chose the dogs route... I'm not trying ot say it's right... I definitely don't agree with them murdering people's pets. I'm just trying to see the logic behid what they did.

Try not to look at it like genocide or a mass murder. Maybe the chinese people were getting really upset and demanding action... Then the government went over board... who knows. All I know is it ain't right to downtalk an entire group of people (in this case the chinese) based on an action that the government did.

I see where your trying to come from with this but there is a huge difference between controlling pet population and seizing dogs from owners while their walking them and beating them to death on the spot. I don't give a damn what country your from! The fact that it happened in China means nothing IMO, I'd react the same exact way if it happened in the US.

mor911
08-03-2006, 11:28 AM
I didn't see the pic (gladly so) but I'm sure it spoke a thousand words. I love dogs.

Motion
08-03-2006, 11:30 AM
I agree, i was just trying to come up with some reason behind the Brutal cull and pointing out that the're culture is different and is slaughtering 50,000 dogs anywhere near as crazy/unnecessary as the amount of "Nuke the Chinese" etc comments that have appeared in this thread

I can't speak for everyone that mentioned that option but I'm sure there was just a slight bit of sarcasm involved.

Scrap
08-03-2006, 11:31 AM
I can't speak for everyone that mentioned that option but I'm sure there was just a slight bit of sarcasm involved.My post was sarcasm. But I hope they pay dearly on judgement day.

Scrap
08-03-2006, 11:31 AM
I see where your trying to come from with this but there is a huge difference between controlling pet population and seizing dogs from owners while their walking them and beating them to death on the spot. I don't give a damn what country your from! The fact that it happened in China means nothing IMO, I'd react the same exact way if it happened in the US. Yes. Good post.

@@@
08-03-2006, 11:37 AM
I can't speak for everyone that mentioned that option but I'm sure there was just a slight bit of sarcasm involved.I realised the Nuke comment was tongue in cheek it was just the most convienient for making my point :wink:

SpurzN703
08-03-2006, 02:12 PM
I didn't see the pic (gladly so) but I'm sure it spoke a thousand words. I love dogs.

I looked when I shouldn't have. I wouldn't recommend it :shakeno:

tucker
08-03-2006, 02:18 PM
my pic should not have been taken down..it was appropriate for this thread

No, it wasnt. It was upsetting and unnecessary imagery which adds to the grief of an already deplorable incident.

SkapePhin
08-03-2006, 03:04 PM
Its funny to see all the yells of shock coming from everyone here.. Would anyone have these reactions if it were 50,000 rats? The thing we have to understand, is that there are cultural differences between what is considered a pet and a pest.. Dogs happen to be pests in some parts of china, particularly street dogs. Its a health issue, and they dealt with it.. They werent coming to your door and whacking fido over the head..

EDIT: Whoop.. Didnt catch the first part of the highlighted.. lol.. OK, thats wrong.

SpurzN703
08-03-2006, 04:47 PM
Its funny to see all the yells of shock coming from everyone here.. Would anyone have these reactions if it were 50,000 rats? The thing we have to understand, is that there are cultural differences between what is considered a pet and a pest.. Dogs happen to be pests in some parts of china, particularly street dogs. Its a health issue, and they dealt with it.. They werent coming to your door and whacking fido over the head..

EDIT: Whoop.. Didnt catch the first part of the highlighted.. lol.. OK, thats wrong.

Why play the what if game? They WERE dogs, and they WERE slaughtered.

Besides, 50,000 rats don't deserve to be stepped on and murdered either.

NaboCane
08-03-2006, 04:50 PM
Why play the what if game? They WERE dogs, and they WERE slaughtered.

Besides, 50,000 rats don't deserve to be stepped on and murdered either.

Exactly; no animal deserves to be killed in a manner that's not humane.

Scrap
08-03-2006, 04:56 PM
I agree, but what killing is humane ?

NaboCane
08-03-2006, 05:00 PM
I agree, but what killing is humane ?

A quick death, one in which the animal never suspects it is going to die. One made as painless as possible.

I only buy meat from local ranches that raise and kill their animals humanely, organically too if possible. I won't buy anything from companies that put their animals in cages or stalls where they can't move; a couple even offer "humane" veal, (commonly called "red" veal) calves raised free-range.

SkapePhin
08-03-2006, 06:24 PM
Why play the what if game? They WERE dogs, and they WERE slaughtered.

Besides, 50,000 rats don't deserve to be stepped on and murdered either.

no, what I am saying is that a DOG is the SAME as a RAT in terms of favorability in some cultures..

Heck, my relatives in Brazil kill all the stray cats that come by their homes. Im a cat lover, but to my aunt, they are pests, like rats.. So she beats them with broomsticks and set traps for them..

Its not a "What if" game, its looking at it from another cultural context.

Puka-head
08-03-2006, 08:46 PM
I can't speak for everyone that mentioned that option but I'm sure there was just a slight bit of sarcasm involved.
I never said anything about nukes, I think doggie doo is the answer, Ican gaurantee 2 loads a day, just need an appropriate address to send it. Anybody gotta major media contact so we can make it a few hundred thousand loads???

SpurzN703
08-03-2006, 09:14 PM
no, what I am saying is that a DOG is the SAME as a RAT in terms of favorability in some cultures..

Heck, my relatives in Brazil kill all the stray cats that come by their homes. Im a cat lover, but to my aunt, they are pests, like rats.. So she beats them with broomsticks and set traps for them..

Its not a "What if" game, its looking at it from another cultural context.

I see what you're saying regarding their culture, but I will never agree with what the chinese have done. EVER

I don't care what they believe, what they teach, or what they have been taught. It is not right to do that to any animal.

Hell, a shotgun to the head would be 'better' then beating the dog until it dies. I mean I saw several dogs on my way home from work today, and I cannot even fathom slapping the dog with my hand let alone beating it with the intention on killing it.

:fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire:

HolliFinFan
08-03-2006, 09:44 PM
A quick death, one in which the animal never suspects it is going to die. One made as painless as possible.

I only buy meat from local ranches that raise and kill their animals humanely, organically too if possible. I won't buy anything from companies that put their animals in cages or stalls where they can't move; a couple even offer "humane" veal, (commonly called "red" veal) calves raised free-range.

Nabo, that's fantastic! I think most people are unaware of most farms' inhumane practices. Especially the poor pigs: they're highly intelligent and aware of it all (and of its eventuality--which may be worse.)

I gave up most meat almost 20 years ago. I'll eat fish if my husband (or I) catch(es) it, but for some reason, I don't have the same empathetic nature toward shrimp, lobster or crab. I will eat those. After educating myself on farm "tactics," I've been unable to eat red meat, chicken or pork for over 20 years. It's not even some type of sacrifice or something I miss. And yes, most people think I'm odd. Especially the Latino side of my husband's family, yet I'm okay with that :lol:
~~Holli

FinaciousOne
08-03-2006, 10:20 PM
But I hope they pay dearly on judgement day.

:hmmm: Dog backwards is God. :hide:

Coral Reefer
08-03-2006, 11:50 PM
A quick death, one in which the animal never suspects it is going to die. One made as painless as possible.

I only buy meat from local ranches that raise and kill their animals humanely, organically too if possible. I won't buy anything from companies that put their animals in cages or stalls where they can't move; a couple even offer "humane" veal, (commonly called "red" veal) calves raised free-range.

Same here.
No need to make anything suffer needlessly.
What they put the Veal calves through is rediculous.

On the Organic side, everyone should be on that whether you care about the animals welfare or not.

If everyone knew about the amount of chemicals, hormones and steroids shot into the regular meats they'd be quite surprised.

lazareth
08-04-2006, 12:22 AM
Same here.
No need to make anything suffer needlessly.
What they put the Veal calves through is rediculous.

On the Organic side, everyone should be on that whether you care about the animals welfare or not.

If everyone knew about the amount of chemicals, hormones and steroids shot into the regular meats they'd be quite surprised.
i agree and i buy/use organic products as much as i can but in my area it is not always easy to get them...it is also very expensive and the average person wouldnt be able to afford to eat that way

Miamian
08-04-2006, 12:46 AM
no, what I am saying is that a DOG is the SAME as a RAT in terms of favorability in some cultures..

Heck, my relatives in Brazil kill all the stray cats that come by their homes. Im a cat lover, but to my aunt, they are pests, like rats.. So she beats them with broomsticks and set traps for them..

Its not a "What if" game, its looking at it from another cultural context.
I'm sorry I can't imagine that. I've been to Brazil and the cat population in Israeli cities is much higher. I've seen little brats harassing cats while their idiot mothers look on, thinking it's cute, but never anything like that.

Puka-head
08-04-2006, 05:16 PM
Ok for those interested here is a list of the Chinese embassy's in the US. I think a protest is required. Either use http://www.dogdoo.com/Default.asp or send your own to the location nearest you. Or better yet visit in person if you can, and let your dog crap on the floor in the lobby. That's what I really want to do but there isn't an embassy close.

http://www.visarite.com/chnConsulate.htm
here's the list if you don't want to follow the link

Embassy and Consulates General of the People's Republic of China


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dolfan72734me
08-04-2006, 07:26 PM
I wouldn't say "nuke 'em" because that would kill innocents as well, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit if every person that was responible for the animal beatings and killings were put to death, humanely or not. Pets are not able to make the consious intelligent decision like a human can.
Screw them...kill 'em all:confused:
OK, sorry about being so harsh, but animal (or people) cruelty and human stupidity is my breaking point.

SkapePhin
08-04-2006, 07:33 PM
I'm sorry I can't imagine that. I've been to Brazil and the cat population in Israeli cities is much higher. I've seen little brats harassing cats while their idiot mothers look on, thinking it's cute, but never anything like that.

She lives in a small town in Minas Gerais called Manhumirim. Mostly dirt roads.. And when I was there as a kid, we'd buy live chickens from a guy on the street. He had them tied to his arms, we'd buy one, bring it back to the house, and the maid would slit its throat in the sink.. Pretty gruesome, but interesting.

She kills the stray cats that come around her house.. She thinks they are pests, like rats and capivaras.. This is not the case in industrial cities like Sao Paulo, Rio, and Belo Horizonte, but it in small towns, it is..

Also, My dad lives in Manaus, Amazonas. There is a huge stray dog problem there.. These things are all mangy, gimpy and diseased, and the roam the streets.. My dad said that they started a program a while back to minimize the amount of these stray dogs.. Guess how.

SkapePhin
08-04-2006, 07:48 PM
I found a flickr group from a woman who runs a dog clinic in Amazonas..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/amazoncares/sets/72057594068743754/
Take a look at these dogs..

IMO, its more humane just to kill them (in a humane manner of course) than to let them live like this..

http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2006/08/103153664_1c2d4f02f7-1.jpg

Ive seen some of them up close.. Not a pretty sight.

finsmx
08-04-2006, 10:59 PM
I just saw this article on another board and I was about to post it in here but I see there's already a thread.

This is just horrible, I love dogs and let me tell you had they tried to do this **** to my dog or to any dog on my presence, I would have knocked the **** out of them

And this is the stupidest thing I've ever read in my life


"With the aim to keep this horrible disease from people, we decided to kill the dogs," Li Haibo, a spokesman for the county government, was quoted as saying by the official Xinhua News Agency.