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BAMAPHIN 22
08-07-2006, 04:48 PM
Teens whose iPods are full of music with raunchy, sexual lyrics start having sex sooner than those who prefer other songs, a study found.

Whether it's hip-hop, rap, pop or rock, much of popular music aimed at teens contains sexual overtones. Its influence on their behavior appears to depend on how the sex is portrayed, researchers found.

Songs depicting men as "sex-driven studs," women as sex objects and with explicit references to sex acts are more likely to trigger early sexual behavior than those where sexual references are more veiled and relationships appear more committed, the study found.

Teens who said they listened to lots of music with degrading sexual messages were almost twice as likely to start having intercourse or other sexual activities within the following two years as were teens who listened to little or no sexually degrading music.

Among heavy listeners, 51 percent started having sex within two years, versus 29 percent of those who said they listened to little or no sexually degrading music.

Exposure to lots of sexually degrading music "gives them a specific message about sex," said lead author Steven Martino, a researcher for Rand Corp. in Pittsburgh. Boys learn they should be relentless in pursuit of women and girls learn to view themselves as sex objects, he said.

"We think that really lowers kids' inhibitions and makes them less thoughtful" about sexual decisions and may influence them to make decisions they regret, he said.

The study, based on telephone interviews with 1,461 participants aged 12 to 17, appears in the August issue of Pediatrics, being released Monday.

Most participants were virgins when they were first questioned in 2001.

Follow-up interviews were done in 2002 and 2004 to see if music choice had influenced subsequent behavior.

Natasha Ramsey, a 17-year-old from New Brunswick, N.J., said she and other teens sometimes listen to sexually explicit songs because they like the beat.

"I won't really realize that the person is talking about having sex or raping a girl," she said. Even so, the message "is being beaten into the teens' heads," she said. "We don't even really realize how much."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060807/ap_on_re_us/sex_lyrics_teens

Buddwalk
08-07-2006, 04:57 PM
I heard that this morning on the radio on the way to work :yes:

like2god
08-07-2006, 05:02 PM
I think it influences them to a degree, but I still hold firm that bad parenting is the cause for kids bad behavior.

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NMNB
08-07-2006, 05:22 PM
that's cause they're horny, so they listen to dirty music.

Metal Panda
08-07-2006, 05:31 PM
I think it influences them to a degree, but I still hold firm that bad parenting is the cause for kids bad behavior.

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Bad parenting, in my eyes, is sort of a cop out answer for everything. But parents can't be blamed for every flaw in their children. After all, half the time to make ends meet, both parents have to work, and through most of the child's schooling years they spend less than half their day with their children. To what degree do we need to hold greedy corporations and other pieces of a child's external environment responsible?

I'm not one for censorship at all, hence why I'm a dirty profane young man. But at the same token, repeated exposure to said sexual themes and undercurrents can easily penetrate somebody's subconscious and make them more likely to engage in those activities, whether they are aware of it or not. It works wonderfully in the advertising realm, as well.

Nobody will jump the slippery slope and indicate listening to one song by Marvin Gaye will instantly start up the vibrator in every young girl's room, but repeated exposure to certain sources can have a definite influence on you and behavior. I've noticed it in myself as well.

But then again I'm not against premarital sex anyway so what do I care :)

unifiedtheory
08-07-2006, 05:36 PM
I think the fact that they want to have some sex has more of an influence on them having sex then music does....

Why does someone always have to blame something for everything?

Can't people think for themselves?

Metal Panda
08-07-2006, 05:44 PM
I think the fact that they want to have some sex has more of an influence on them having sex then music does....

Why does someone always have to blame something for everything?

Can't people think for themselves?

I'll try to dig back through my psychology background here.

One can definitely argue certain types of people are more predisposed to listening to certain types of music than others. My depressive and downer personality led me to metal.

But one CANNOT discount the influence their external environment plays at all in shaping whom we are as people. Otherwise, we wouldn't all be so different.

As far as whether people can think for themselves...we can, but not to the degree we all think we can. Nobody is above subliminal influence, as we're all human, and we can all be manipulated to some degree. Hell, look at the last election :). We don't notice half of the things that influence us subconsciously on a daily basis.

Part of the problem is that people on both sides of the argument tend to go overboard. Nobody's going to kill their neighbor after seeing Scarface, and nobody's going to hump a tree after watching a porno.

But if someone were to begin to expose themselves to said materials at a rate more excessive than normal, they could start to damage themselves. Now, that is up to the individual, yes, but in some instances (tobacco companies) I think we should be holding companies more responsible.

Now don't take this as me saying we should outlaw all of that stuff...not at all. I'm not one for censorship, and I hate how conservatives and religious figures in my area tended to use said psychological studies and used it as an excuse to try to ban literature/cinema. That's hardly a worthwhile solution.

We just need to have our eyes a little bit more wide open, that's all--recognize certain things that might influence their developing mind and make sure they don't get overexposed to it, but keeping it to healthy doses.

FinSinceBirth
08-07-2006, 06:00 PM
Part of the problem is that people on both sides of the argument tend to go overboard. Nobody's going to kill their neighbor after seeing Scarface, and nobody's going to hump a tree after watching a porno.


I don't know, I've had to resist the urge a few times. :lol:

like2god
08-07-2006, 06:04 PM
Bad parenting, in my eyes, is sort of a cop out answer for everything. But parents can't be blamed for every flaw in their children. After all, half the time to make ends meet, both parents have to work, and through most of the child's schooling years they spend less than half their day with their children. To what degree do we need to hold greedy corporations and other pieces of a child's external environment responsible?

I'm not one for censorship at all, hence why I'm a dirty profane young man. But at the same token, repeated exposure to said sexual themes and undercurrents can easily penetrate somebody's subconscious and make them more likely to engage in those activities, whether they are aware of it or not. It works wonderfully in the advertising realm, as well.

Nobody will jump the slippery slope and indicate listening to one song by Marvin Gaye will instantly start up the vibrator in every young girl's room, but repeated exposure to certain sources can have a definite influence on you and behavior. I've noticed it in myself as well.

But then again I'm not against premarital sex anyway so what do I care :)

I agree with you. I think that the music industry (entertainment as a whole) is full of greedy people that wouldn't blink at the chance to polish up a piece of **** and sell it as gold. And yes repeated exposure to this garbage does have an impact on impressionable youth. But that is my point, it's the parents job to watch what their kids do and teach them the dangers of drugs and sex.

I am going through that right now with my sisters 4 kids (all under 13). I help raise them because their father is a deadbeat and she isn't capable to do so herself. It is a constant battle between being responsible and letting them grow up. They like to say "but my friends get to do it" or "but my friends parents don't care", to which Ihave to say "I don't care what they do, you are my responsibility and I love you and want what is best for you". It isn't a very popular answer with them now, but they will thank me for it later.

If I were to let them listen to DMX and all of the other crap that their friends listen to, then I am not doing my job. If I let them stay out until 11:00 like their friends, then I am not doing my job.

I listened to Ozzy, Slayer, Manson, GNR, Nirvana and it would have been easy for me to grow up to be a satanic drug addict, but my mother raised me to understand the consequences of my actions. She raised me a certain way and I wasn't easily influenced by music, TV and my friends. Maybe that is just me and I shouldn't project my thoughts and ideas on other people, but I think that the more parents know about what their kids are doing, the better their kids will grow up. Sure kids will still rebel, but maybe they will think twice before doing something stupid.

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like2god
08-07-2006, 06:07 PM
We just need to have our eyes a little bit more wide open, that's all--recognize certain things that might influence their developing mind and make sure they don't get overexposed to it, but keeping it to healthy doses.

That is what I was saying. Very well said.

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dominizzo
08-08-2006, 12:24 AM
that's cause they're horny, so they listen to dirty music.


welll Said

Slappy8800
08-08-2006, 12:48 AM
i call BS...i also wanna know where this info was when i wa in school..i couldve used it to my advantage

dominizzo
08-08-2006, 02:14 AM
Slappy u a girl or boy?

Quelonio
08-08-2006, 02:17 AM
I think you have to start by saying why is this even a problem, sicne when having sex is actually a problem. I have had partners that had a whole lot of sexual partners before me, and they where perfectly nice wonderfull people... I have had partners that had very little partners before me, and they where completely screwed in the head, and lived a life of fear and pain.

The truth of the matter is that sex is not the problem, society's perception of sex might be, but sex in itself is not a problem.

What you have to do is not shield your children from stuff they will come into contact whether you like it or not (especially in this age of information, and with so much peer pressure around them). But teach them that it is alright as long as you demand respect from others, and you always respect the other person taht is involved. If your son or daughter feels respected, and respects the person she/he is with, she/he will live a sexually fullfilled life, and will be a happier person for it.

THat is what matters not how much sex she has or does not have, you can never shield people from sex, for it is already here, you can show people to demand respect when having sex.

Slappy8800
08-08-2006, 02:21 AM
I think you have to start by saying why is this even a problem, sicne when having sex is actually a problem. I have had partners that had a whole lot of sexual partners before me, and they where perfectly nice wonderfull people... I have had partners that had very little partners before me, and they where completely screwed in the head, and lived a life of fear and pain.

The truth of the matter is that sex is not the problem, society's perception of sex might be, but sex in itself is not a problem.

What you have to do is not shield your children from stuff they will come into contact whether you like it or not (especially in this age of information, and with so much peer pressure around them). But teach them that it is alright as long as you demand respect from others, and you always respect the other person taht is involved. If your son or daughter feels respected, and respects the person she/he is with, she/he will live a sexually fullfilled life, and will be a happier person for it.

THat is what matters not how much sex she has or does not have, you can never shield people from sex, for it is already here, you can show people to demand respect when having sex.

i think the problem they are getting to is kids ages like 12-15 having sex..

Quelonio
08-08-2006, 02:25 AM
i think the problem they are getting to is kids ages like 12-15 having sex..

Yes, but that comes with a whole issue of self respect man, people that are having sex at that age generally are doing it because of the pressure around them. Girls are doing it in general because much older kids are hoovering around them. Which is why I get to the point, if you demand respect and are strong about it, then you don't end up having sex at that age.

If you just forbid sex and any representation of sex, you create a situation that entices sex... because of the forbidden part of it all.

lazareth
08-08-2006, 02:34 AM
i think the problem they are getting to is kids ages like 12-15 having sex..
despite common perception, kids having sex between the ages of 12-15 is nothing new

Slappy8800
08-08-2006, 02:35 AM
oh im quite aware...i never said it was MY problem

SpurzN703
08-08-2006, 09:54 AM
These kids are going to have sex at some point anyway. I mean a song is a song. How does it have influence on people? The lyrics arent telling anyone what to do.

But yeah everything that is bad has to be blamed on something else. Nevermind that us guys and gals are naturally attracted to each other. If they use protection, who cares?

It can't be stopped

King Felix
08-08-2006, 02:32 PM
I don't know, I've had to resist the urge a few times. :lol::lol::lol::lol:wtf??






:lol::lol::lol:

Metal Panda
08-08-2006, 11:09 PM
These kids are going to have sex at some point anyway. I mean a song is a song. How does it have influence on people? The lyrics arent telling anyone what to do.

But yeah everything that is bad has to be blamed on something else. Nevermind that us guys and gals are naturally attracted to each other. If they use protection, who cares?

It can't be stopped

You are oversimplifying things.

External sources, all of them, have an influence. You're thinking of it the wrong way.

Somebody whom watches hours of television and sees a Wendy's commercial 50 times in a day might reflect an increased appetite for fast food and is more likely to pick THAT restaurant, without necessarily even realizing it.

Humans flatter themselves sometimes by thinking they're not subject to manipulation, but we all are. Our external environment affects us to large degrees, and overexposure to certain types of things can affect our moods, personalities, and behaviors. Note I said overexposure--I sincerely doubt anybody who performed the study opted to suggest that somebody listening to Prince's "Do Me" is likely to mount the nearest thing in sight. But someone whom listens to a larger than normal dose of this material might subconsciously develop increased urges without even realizing it.

I have often felt changes in my demeanor when I've listened to excessive amounts of gangster rap. Not anything major, no, but still "changes". And I'm not suggesting any external source is going to create something that isn't already there--nobody whom doesn't already exhibit suicidal tendencies is going to suddenly want to off themselves after hearing one song.

People are quick to point out "personal responsibility"...I am too, but blame is not a one way street. For instance, if somebody sells you drugs, you overdose, and die...yes, you were the one whom bought the dope, but is not the seller also responsible? And the manufacturer? What if your friend knew about your habit and didn't try to intervene? Isn't he partially responsible too?

Life isn't black and white, unfortunately.

darkmistress
08-09-2006, 03:06 AM
Frankly I'm sick of turning on my tv and seeing half naked guys and chicks (none of who are the slightest bit attractive) strutting around like they're the hottest thing since toast. But that's probably just me.

But it isn't just the music industry... most people don't listen to the lyrics anyway.

d-day
08-09-2006, 03:09 AM
Frankly I'm sick of turning on my tv and seeing half naked guys and chicks (none of who are the slightest bit attractive) strutting around like they're the hottest thing since toast. But that's probably just me.

But it isn't just the music industry... most people don't listen to the lyrics anyway.

unless you speak australian

SpurzN703
08-09-2006, 10:51 AM
You are oversimplifying things.

External sources, all of them, have an influence. You're thinking of it the wrong way.

Somebody whom watches hours of television and sees a Wendy's commercial 50 times in a day might reflect an increased appetite for fast food and is more likely to pick THAT restaurant, without necessarily even realizing it.

Humans flatter themselves sometimes by thinking they're not subject to manipulation, but we all are. Our external environment affects us to large degrees, and overexposure to certain types of things can affect our moods, personalities, and behaviors. Note I said overexposure--I sincerely doubt anybody who performed the study opted to suggest that somebody listening to Prince's "Do Me" is likely to mount the nearest thing in sight. But someone whom listens to a larger than normal dose of this material might subconsciously develop increased urges without even realizing it.

I have often felt changes in my demeanor when I've listened to excessive amounts of gangster rap. Not anything major, no, but still "changes". And I'm not suggesting any external source is going to create something that isn't already there--nobody whom doesn't already exhibit suicidal tendencies is going to suddenly want to off themselves after hearing one song.

People are quick to point out "personal responsibility"...I am too, but blame is not a one way street. For instance, if somebody sells you drugs, you overdose, and die...yes, you were the one whom bought the dope, but is not the seller also responsible? And the manufacturer? What if your friend knew about your habit and didn't try to intervene? Isn't he partially responsible too?

Life isn't black and white, unfortunately.

Yeah I agree that we can be influenced to a certain degree, but I just dont think sex is one of them. You need attraction, motivation, and beer :wink: .

Kids need their parents in today's society more then ever. When I was growing up, times were different. Kids today have much more to be influenced by. The TV shows are more violent, video game consoles are more available, music is more smutty.

I would not want to be raising a kid in today's world. The kicker is I don't see it changing anytime soon

SpurzN703
08-09-2006, 10:54 AM
I think you have to start by saying why is this even a problem, sicne when having sex is actually a problem. I have had partners that had a whole lot of sexual partners before me, and they where perfectly nice wonderfull people... I have had partners that had very little partners before me, and they where completely screwed in the head, and lived a life of fear and pain.

The truth of the matter is that sex is not the problem, society's perception of sex might be, but sex in itself is not a problem.

What you have to do is not shield your children from stuff they will come into contact whether you like it or not (especially in this age of information, and with so much peer pressure around them). But teach them that it is alright as long as you demand respect from others, and you always respect the other person taht is involved. If your son or daughter feels respected, and respects the person she/he is with, she/he will live a sexually fullfilled life, and will be a happier person for it.

THat is what matters not how much sex she has or does not have, you can never shield people from sex, for it is already here, you can show people to demand respect when having sex.

Precisely my point. You cant be with your kid at all hours of the day. Your kids friends and peers will have influences on them that you cannot control. It's sad really, you think that you taught your kid all the right things and they will turn out just fine.

But the influences today just corrupt the child. You could harp every single day that drugs are bad, unhealthy, illegal, etc..

I bet you, at least once, the kid at some point in their lives tries a drug.

Ironic part though, I have never done a single drug in my entire life. If you count a cigar and a beer a drug then fine. Nothing illegal though, so at least one set of parents did their job

Metal Panda
08-12-2006, 01:28 PM
I do fully agree with everyone in the thread about the dangers of shielding children from topics deemed "dangerous".

That's the problem I see with most in society. They see something as "dangerous", so they want to make it taboo, or censor it.

Or, on the flipside, they want to say it's not a problem and sweep it under the rug.

What's wrong with identifying that there IS a problem, then educating everyone so they can make their own informed decision?

People are much more likely to rebel when you cram something down their throat, but at the same token, they're much more likely to explore certain things if they're shielded from it as it's 'taboo' and 'risque' to them since they haven't been exposed to it before. Presenting such education in an open and non-judgemental fashion usually helps kids to see the danger without them having an opinion rammed down their throat.

the D.A.R.E. program is good evidence of a program that DOESN'T work...but at least its intentions were noble.