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phinphan896
09-14-2006, 09:13 PM
heres the link

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=ArEH88c25milTNtg9.5D0s0cvrYF?slug=ys-bushprobe&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Amars
09-14-2006, 09:26 PM
Those benefits include:

* $595.20 in round-trip airfare from San Diego to Oakland in November 2005 for Bush's stepfather, LaMar Griffin, his mother, Denise Griffin and younger brother to attend the USC-California game at Berkeley. The fees were charged to the credit card of Jamie Fritz, an employee of Ornstein. The document detailing the charges was provided by Lee Pfeifer, an estranged business associate of Ornstein's.
* $250.65 for limousine transportation from the Oakland airport to the Ritz-Carlton in San Francisco that November weekend for the Bush family, charged to Fritz, according to a document. Ornstein acknowledged both he and Bush's family stayed at the luxury hotel.

Additionally, New Jersey memorabilia dealer Bob DeMartino alleges that Ornstein provided:

* Suits for Bush's stepfather and brother to wear during the Dec. 10, 2005 Heisman ceremony in New York, a makeover for his mother for the event and limousine transportation;
* Weekly payments of at least $1,500 to the Bush family.

Documents and multiple sources also link Bush and his family to receiving benefits from New Era's financial backers, including:

* $623.63 for a hotel stay by Bush at the Venetian Resort & Casino in Las Vegas from March 11-13, 2005, charged to Michaels, according to a document signed by Bush.
* $1,574.86 for a stay by Bush at the Manchester Hyatt in San Diego from March 4-6, 2005, paid for by Michaels, according to a hotel document, a hotel employee and a source.
* Approximately $13,000 to Bush from New Era to purchase and modify a car, three sources said.
* As reported by Yahoo! Sports in April, $54,000 in rent-free living for a year at Michaels' $757,500 home in Spring Valley, Calif., according to Michaels and San Diego attorney Brian Watkins.
* Also from previous Yahoo! reports, $28,000 from Michaels to help Bush's family settle pre-existing debt, according to Michaels and Watkins.
* Thousands of dollars in spending money to both Bush and his family from the prospective agents, according to multiple sources.


What a mess for USC

Pennington's Rocket Arm
09-14-2006, 09:26 PM
yeah pretty old news.

funny how everyone thought it'd be a huge deal but this si the first i've heard about it since the draft.

Amars
09-14-2006, 09:27 PM
This has more detail information. Its on the frontpage on Yahoo.

Coral Reefer
09-14-2006, 10:38 PM
yeah pretty old news.

funny how everyone thought it'd be a huge deal but this si the first i've heard about it since the draft.


Well it should be a huge deal, programs have gotten in hot water for less than that list.

DonShula84
09-14-2006, 11:30 PM
Give back your Heisman!

Alex44
09-14-2006, 11:45 PM
It would have been interesting what all the people doing stuff 'free' for him would have done if he like tore up his knee in the national championship and never played again

He might be in Clarett type trouble now, good thing he got all that money

Amars
09-15-2006, 05:13 AM
Nothing going to happen to Bush. Worst thing is he has to give back the heisman which sucks. USC is the one that going to suffer.

Alex44
09-15-2006, 05:18 AM
Nothing going to happen to Bush. Worst thing is he has to give back the heisman which sucks. USC is the one that going to suffer.

Just hand it to Vince Young :tongue:

305TillIDie
09-15-2006, 07:58 AM
Just hand it to Vince Young :tongue::lol:

TarHeelFinFan
09-15-2006, 11:43 AM
USC should get the proverbial "death penalty" for this, but I'm betting the NCAA doesn't have the cajones.

Kdawg954
09-15-2006, 02:42 PM
Everybody knows Bush was getting some kind of outside help . . . just too many indications that he has. And I agree with the consensus that their should be a big deal made about it . . . its against the rules . . college athletes go thru alot, and they all should be treated equally. Nothing will happen to Reggie, but I think USC could be in for a probabtion period when all of this sorts out.

Stitches
09-15-2006, 03:29 PM
I agree with TarHeelFinFan. If this is true, USC certainly deserves the "death penalty," but I doubt they would give it to that program.

Motion
09-15-2006, 03:35 PM
So what would happen if they did take back the Heisman? Would it just be void for the season or would they give it to Young?

Skeet84
09-15-2006, 04:04 PM
So what would happen if they did take back the Heisman? Would it just be void for the season or would they give it to Young?


Hmmmm very good question! I think it would go void, But maybe i am wrong. I also think that if they would had done the voting for the Heisman after the National title game than Vince would have won it. I guess we will never know tho

TarHeelFinFan
09-15-2006, 09:48 PM
So what would happen if they did take back the Heisman? Would it just be void for the season or would they give it to Young? I believe it just goes as no winner, the same way a championship nullified by these types of problems would simply not exist, rather than default to the runner up.

Dors156
09-15-2006, 10:32 PM
Just hand it to Vince Young :tongue:

yes i hope so

Amars
09-16-2006, 12:38 AM
Boo Vince Young. Who wants sloppy 2nd anyway. Bush deserve that trophy. He recieved the 2nd highest votes ever for that trophy.

Trivia: Does anyone know who got the highest vote ever for the hiesman?

phinphan896
09-16-2006, 08:32 AM
good thing for him that hes already in the nfl so its not really his problem anymore, its USC's

Skeet84
09-16-2006, 09:25 AM
good thing for him that hes already in the nfl so its not really his problem anymore, its USC's


Yeap. Only thing he has to worry about is his Legacy. USC has alot to deal with.

Majpain
09-17-2006, 02:00 AM
Can someone fill me in, I'm not understanding this. He recieved Money and other gifts? By doing that they want to take away the Titles and possibly His heisman trophy? I'm sorry but it sounds to rediculous.

King Felix
09-17-2006, 02:04 AM
Boo Vince Young. Who wants sloppy 2nd anyway. Bush deserve that trophy. He recieved the 2nd highest votes ever for that trophy.

Trivia: Does anyone know who got the highest vote ever for the hiesman?just a wild guess........ricky williams?