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MikeO
09-15-2006, 11:29 AM
Looks like even if a miracle happens and Shamrock beats Ortiz in a couple weeks, that on December 30th it will be Tito vs Chuck II.

The fight is so big UFC is holding it at the MGM grand, the biggest arena they run. And they expect it to break all PPV buy rate records for their company.

Motion
09-15-2006, 11:45 AM
:woot:

I'll be watching!


Is Liddell vs. Silva still on?

MikeO
09-15-2006, 12:00 PM
NO.

Dana refuses to give a PRIDE guy meaningfull TV time (let alone a match)) unless he signs a deal. So the fight is off.

Motion
09-15-2006, 12:39 PM
NO.

Dana refuses to give a PRIDE guy meaningfull TV time (let alone a match)) unless he signs a deal. So the fight is off.

Ah, I see. I hadn't heard anything more about that after the initial announcement. Didn't he get KO'd recently in a PRIDE fight?

MikeO
09-15-2006, 01:13 PM
yep

bullseyeguy
09-15-2006, 01:50 PM
I wouldnt blame that whole fiasco on Dana, Pride is just as much at fault, if not more...Its en vogue to hate Dana White and blame everything that goes wrong in the business on him, but I believe that Pride just used that oppurtunity to get some US PPV face time for their upcoming show in Vegas...I dont think they ever had any intention of allowing Wanderlei to fight in the UFC...

MikeO
09-15-2006, 01:52 PM
who's hating Dana White????????????

What did I miss.............

Motion
09-15-2006, 01:54 PM
I thought PRIDE was going under anyway? What happened to all that talk?

ckb2001
09-15-2006, 02:16 PM
This is good news. Chuck is still favored, but Ortiz took their last fight I think way too personal and didn't show much of a game plan. Also, Ortiz kinda refused to do what he does best last time: ground and pound. Maybe this time he'll go back to what he knows best.

Still think Chuck wins by knockout or referee stoppage.

bullseyeguy
09-15-2006, 02:18 PM
who's hating Dana White????????????

What did I miss.............Im not saying you hate Dana, but 90% of the internet does, so most of the info out has an anti Dana stance...No one really knows why the deal fell through, their are obviously 2 stories, I just tend to believe that Pride pulled out.

Motion-
Pride lost their Tv deal in Japan because of reported dealing with the Yakuza. They have a PPV in Vegas in December, I dont think it will do very well, and if it isnt successful, I have a feeling we will start seeing a downward spiral....

ckb2001
09-15-2006, 02:42 PM
Pride lost their Tv deal in Japan because of reported dealing with the Yakuza. They have a PPV in Vegas in December, I dont think it will do very well, and if it isnt successful, I have a feeling we will start seeing a downward spiral....

There should be only one such MMA organization for elite fighters anyway. It's frustrating not to know who the "real" world champion is (though the only main area of contention is light heavyweight, the other weight classes we most probably know).

DolfanDaveInATX
09-15-2006, 03:04 PM
I am surprised at the date on this. That date is in the middle of the New Year's weekend, which means that anybody who wants to attend that fight has to get their on Friday and pay for their hotel through New Year's Day.

FinsNYanksFan13
09-15-2006, 05:19 PM
:woot:

I'll be watching!


Is Liddell vs. Silva still on?


If you want the laugh of your life, watch Silva call out Chuck on the Shamrock-Ortiz II ppv. It is the funniest thing I've ever seen and what he says is priceless. If anyone can find it on Youtube let me know cause it's downright hysterical!

LightsOut
09-15-2006, 09:18 PM
"It kind of defeats the purpose now. The guy just got, literally, destroyed. They're (PRIDE) still saying we can do a fight in November. They can't do a fight in November. The athletic commission would put them on suspension for 90 days. The guy got knocked out cold. First, he got beaten to death, then he got knocked out cold. There's no way the guy could fight again in a month and a half. Plus, he just lost." dana white


i agree he wouldn't be ready but losing to cro cop does nothing to diminish the fight. cro cop is a heavyweight and would do the same thing to chuck.

MikeO
09-15-2006, 11:58 PM
If you want the laugh of your life, watch Silva call out Chuck on the Shamrock-Ortiz II ppv. It is the funniest thing I've ever seen and what he says is priceless. If anyone can find it on Youtube let me know cause it's downright hysterical!

slip of the tongue! lol

Motion
09-18-2006, 08:38 AM
If you want the laugh of your life, watch Silva call out Chuck on the Shamrock-Ortiz II ppv. It is the funniest thing I've ever seen and what he says is priceless. If anyone can find it on Youtube let me know cause it's downright hysterical!

Yeah I got that PPV, saw it happen live.

allport30
09-21-2006, 11:37 AM
[quote=MikeO]Looks like even if a miracle happens and Shamrock beats Ortiz in a couple weeks, that on December 30th it will be Tito vs Chuck II.

The fight is so big UFC is holding it at the MGM grand, the biggest arena they run. And they expect it to break all PPV buy rate records for their company.[/q

Ortiz and Shammy are fighting again? if so when....

Motion
09-21-2006, 11:39 AM
Ortiz and Shammy are fighting again? if so when....

October 10th LIVE on Spike