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MikeO
09-20-2006, 09:37 AM
Tommy Tuberville yesterday said he isn't interested in the Miami job and won't leave Auburn (although this article doesn't make mention of it)

Now Butch Davis to the Cowboys after this year is the rumor... http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/15561363.htm


This might be a tough job to fill.

Oboy
09-20-2006, 09:53 AM
Tommy Tuberville yesterday said he isn't interested in the Miami job and won't leave Auburn (although this article doesn't make mention of it)

Now Butch Davis to the Cowboys after this year is the rumor... http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/15561363.htm


This might be a tough job to fill.
Well when your coach has a record that is second only to one other coach in the nation and he is still getting driven out of town? Not many people would want that kind of scrutiny.

Lets face it, UM plays a tougher schedule than it used to in the Big Eas(y)t. So it is not going to be easy to go undefeated every year. Thus being in the National Championship game is going to be more rare. Add that to an unrealistic expectation of the fan base, not a real enticing job.

I still think (IF UM fires Coker - I am not convinced they will) UM will still get a real good coach. Maybe not the first choice, but still a really good coach. IMO, one that is better than Coker. UM is still a storied program, pays a lot of $, in Miami, etc... still a lot of positives, but I can also see a lot of negatives too.

Wombat
09-20-2006, 11:53 AM
Why not Shannon?

Caps
09-20-2006, 02:52 PM
Why not Shannon?

We need new blood.

I'm not worried about filling the job. There are plenty of quality guys out there, Gene Chizik, Norm Chow, Gary Patterson, I could go on.

AirFishOne
09-20-2006, 03:41 PM
Chizik would fit well with the U, he would get yall back up to the rep Miami fans are used to I beleive

ZolarZ_GoPhins
09-20-2006, 03:47 PM
Lets face it, UM plays a tougher schedule than it used to in the Big Eas(y)t. So it is not going to be easy to go undefeated every year. Thus being in the National Championship game is going to be more rare. Add that to an unrealistic expectation of the fan base, not a real enticing job.

I Really don't understand how your schedule is so much harder now then when you where in the BigEast. Currently your toughest opponents in the ACC are BC and VT, both former BigEast schools. Your next toughest opponent is FS that you usually played anyways. That coupled with your current non-conference schedule I can hardly buy into the idea that your current schedule is tougher now then it was 4-5 years ago.

You last 2 years in the BigEast you had Florida and Florida St. as you nonconference games coupled with playing VT, BC, WVU, and Pitt.

In the ACC 2004 and 2006 you play Louisville as a nonconference game, 2005 i guess Colorado was your tough game.

Your nonconference schedule was tougher in the BigEast.

Teams you play then and now : Florida St., VT, and BC(actually every other year I believe)

Old teams : WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers
New teams : GT, Virginia, UNC, Duke. (Wake Forest, Maryland, NC State Clemson : about every other year)

In the BigEast you had 6 Conference games(5 nonconference), In the ACC you have 8(4 non conference).

If you just take the ACC teams you play every year then you really think?
GT, Virginia, UNC, and Duke
Is harder then-
WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers
???

Since you play Florida St every year, the Atlantic division teams you play don't even make up for the tougher nonconference schedule you had in the BigEast.

Get over thinking the ACC is a powerhouse football conference that Miami has no chance to dominate like it did the BigEast. Reality is Miami had much better teams '93-'03 then they have the past few years. I really doubt Miami would be in any different position if they were still in the BigEast. Find something else to blame it on. They probably would have a worse record playing in the BigEast this year.

Last note Miami has 2 more ranked opponents on their schedule..... VT and BC. I think they are former BigEast schools that you would have had to play if they didn't jump conferences. I think your premise is flawed. It isn't your competition is so much harder in the ACC. Miami is just not the same team they use to be.

Skeet84
09-20-2006, 05:23 PM
Hmmmm Wonder who they will get

DonShula84
09-20-2006, 05:47 PM
Hopefully the confusion causes some of the recruits to rethink going to Miami :)

Alex44
09-20-2006, 05:51 PM
Well when your coach has a record that is second only to one other coach in the nation and he is still getting driven out of town? Not many people would want that kind of scrutiny.

Lets face it, UM plays a tougher schedule than it used to in the Big Eas(y)t. So it is not going to be easy to go undefeated every year. Thus being in the National Championship game is going to be more rare. Add that to an unrealistic expectation of the fan base, not a real enticing job.

I still think (IF UM fires Coker - I am not convinced they will) UM will still get a real good coach. Maybe not the first choice, but still a really good coach. IMO, one that is better than Coker. UM is still a storied program, pays a lot of $, in Miami, etc... still a lot of positives, but I can also see a lot of negatives too.

He started off something like 24-0 and is like 25-11 since, 25-11 is terrible for a Miami coach


Sure we played in the Big East but we still had big names and could beat anyone from any conference in the country.

Alex44
09-20-2006, 05:53 PM
Hopefully the confusion causes some of the recruits to rethink going to Miami :)

A lot more kids will go to Miami once Coker is gone, trust me, kids here dont want to go to Miami more because of what he has done to this program, now its just like 'Yeah Ive grown up and loved Miami but there is better opportunity somewhere else' Ive heard it from peoples mouths living here, that needs to change

Skeet84
09-20-2006, 08:34 PM
Hopefully the confusion causes some of the recruits to rethink going to Miami :)



Most of those recruits won't be going to Notre Dame if they rethink. They will more than Likely go to either Florida or Florida State. Not hatting on Notre Dame just saying thats just who Miami battle for alot of there talent

Skeet84
09-20-2006, 08:36 PM
A lot more kids will go to Miami once Coker is gone, trust me, kids here dont want to go to Miami more because of what he has done to this program, now its just like 'Yeah Ive grown up and loved Miami but there is better opportunity somewhere else' Ive heard it from peoples mouths living here, that needs to change



No you can be a horrible coach and still recruit great players ( Ron Zook ). Coker just can't recruit plain and simple!

DonShula84
09-20-2006, 10:05 PM
Most of those recruits won't be going to Notre Dame if they rethink. They will more than Likely go to either Florida or Florida State. Not hatting on Notre Dame just saying thats just who Miami battle for alot of there talent

Probably true, but there are plenty of kids who have both ND and Miami in there top 5. Taking Miami off that list gives ND that much more of a chance.

DonShula84
09-20-2006, 10:17 PM
A lot more kids will go to Miami once Coker is gone, trust me, kids here dont want to go to Miami more because of what he has done to this program, now its just like 'Yeah Ive grown up and loved Miami but there is better opportunity somewhere else' Ive heard it from peoples mouths living here, that needs to change

yeah, for future years it will help them. But this year it wont because they dont know who the coach will be so the new staff will get a late start and miss out on some people who commit early

Skeet84
09-21-2006, 08:37 AM
Probably true, but there are plenty of kids who have both ND and Miami in there top 5. Taking Miami off that list gives ND that much more of a chance.


This is true. I did say most would go to Florida or Florida State not all

MikeO
09-21-2006, 09:25 AM
I Really don't understand how your schedule is so much harder now then when you where in the BigEast. Currently your toughest opponents in the ACC are BC and VT, both former BigEast schools. Your next toughest opponent is FS that you usually played anyways. That coupled with your current non-conference schedule I can hardly buy into the idea that your current schedule is tougher now then it was 4-5 years ago.

You last 2 years in the BigEast you had Florida and Florida St. as you nonconference games coupled with playing VT, BC, WVU, and Pitt.

In the ACC 2004 and 2006 you play Louisville as a nonconference game, 2005 i guess Colorado was your tough game.

Your nonconference schedule was tougher in the BigEast.

Teams you play then and now : Florida St., VT, and BC(actually every other year I believe)

Old teams : WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers
New teams : GT, Virginia, UNC, Duke. (Wake Forest, Maryland, NC State Clemson : about every other year)

In the BigEast you had 6 Conference games(5 nonconference), In the ACC you have 8(4 non conference).

If you just take the ACC teams you play every year then you really think?
GT, Virginia, UNC, and Duke
Is harder then-
WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers
???

Since you play Florida St every year, the Atlantic division teams you play don't even make up for the tougher nonconference schedule you had in the BigEast.

Get over thinking the ACC is a powerhouse football conference that Miami has no chance to dominate like it did the BigEast. Reality is Miami had much better teams '93-'03 then they have the past few years. I really doubt Miami would be in any different position if they were still in the BigEast. Find something else to blame it on. They probably would have a worse record playing in the BigEast this year.

Last note Miami has 2 more ranked opponents on their schedule..... VT and BC. I think they are former BigEast schools that you would have had to play if they didn't jump conferences. I think your premise is flawed. It isn't your competition is so much harder in the ACC. Miami is just not the same team they use to be.


:yeahthat: :allhail:

Pennington's Rocket Arm
09-21-2006, 10:15 AM
miami would be mopping up the ACC right now if butch davis was still coach when the change was made.

Cuban Dave 9
09-21-2006, 10:16 AM
:yeahthat: :allhail:
They swear they're in the SEC

Bumpus
09-21-2006, 10:16 AM
:D
Correct sir. It's not because of the Conference ... the "U" just is not as good as they used to be.

Motion
09-21-2006, 10:41 AM
I nominate RON ZOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Motion
09-21-2006, 10:44 AM
Georgia football coach Mark Richt has an out in his new contract if the University of Miami comes calling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Richt), according to Fox Sports Radio's Jorge Sedano. Richt, a 1982 graduate from Miami, recently signed a long-term extension with the Bulldogs. Larry Coker is expected to be fired at the end of the season by the Hurricanes after a 1-2 start to the 2006 season.
:(

If this happens, Florida needs to call UM right away and schedule them on a regular basis so we can own them like we do Richt's Bulldogs :lol:

MikeO
09-21-2006, 11:20 AM
:(

If this happens, Florida needs to call UM right away and schedule them on a regular basis so we can own them like we do Richt's Bulldogs :lol:

Georgia is a better job, he won't leave.

305TillIDie
09-21-2006, 11:30 AM
i just hope The U get a great recruiter, coach..i know Paul Dee and Shalala will hire the right guy :yes:

Cuban Dave 9
09-21-2006, 12:01 PM
:(

If this happens, Florida needs to call UM right away and schedule them on a regular basis so we can own them like we do Richt's Bulldogs :lol:
2008!

Motion
09-22-2006, 11:22 AM
Or not......


Georgia football coach Mark Richt doesn't have an "out clause" in his contract for the University of Miami job (http://www.georgiadogs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=46825&SPID=3571&DB_OEM_ID=8800&ATCLID=307706&Q_SEASON=2006), according to an e-mail sent to BenMaller.com from University of Georgia's Associate Athletic Director Claude Felton. It had been reported that Richt had an out in his contract to the Hurricanes if Larry Coker is fired.