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South Florida
10-09-2006, 09:49 AM
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fish fan 4 life
10-09-2006, 10:00 AM
We need to draft some linemen not another wr.

DolfanISS
10-09-2006, 10:03 AM
I don't know. We need lineman, that's for sure but someone needs to show us we are all set at WR, this year. I don't care about last year. If Welker is truly our best one, which is the way it seems now, we're in trouble.

fish fan 4 life
10-09-2006, 10:17 AM
I don't know. We need lineman, that's for sure but someone needs to show us we are all set at WR, this year. I don't care about last year. If Welker is truly our best one, which is the way it seems now, we're in trouble.Well the problem is that our line is so bad our qb's dont have time to find a wr.Welker is not our best wr Chambers is but hes always getting covered by two guys.

mike71
10-09-2006, 11:02 AM
we need a few o-lineman, a few new lb's, corners, safeties, field goal kicker and possibly a running back, wr and god forbid culpepper isn't the same anymore! this team needs to be rebuilt and that is no knee jerk reaction to the bad start. we are old, very old along the front 7 on d and we are not a young team by any stretch of the imagination. it's gonna be a while before we are a legit contender. sad, very sad.

Aussiefinfan54
10-09-2006, 11:31 AM
no way will we get him and we need offensive lineman much more desperately than a WR

Motion
10-09-2006, 12:03 PM
We have alot of needs, as far as I'm concerned.

SuperBowlin07
10-09-2006, 12:30 PM
This is what we need: Offensive linemen. Calvin Johnson is not even in the top three recievers that could possibly be in this draft. There is Jeff Samardzija (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=11102), Aundrae Allison (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=10448), and Ted Ginn Jr. Calvin Johnson is a late first but a solid second round choice. However, he could even slip from there. We are much better off taking a Joe Thomas or Levi Brown. We need an OL not just to project Daunte but to open holes for Ronnie. After we draft an OL in the first round we should look LB in the second and Earl Everett comes right to mind for me. He is going to be solid in the NFL and already has experience with Channing Crowder. Third round we should go for a value guy. There are always first and second rounders who fall to the third and fourth rounds where we can steal them. Plain and simple, Calvin Johnson is not a need at this point.

Motion
10-09-2006, 12:33 PM
This is what we need: Offensive linemen. Calvin Johnson is not even in the top three recievers that could possibly be in this draft. There is Jeff Samardzija (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=11102), Aundrae Allison (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=10448), and Ted Ginn Jr. Calvin Johnson is a late first but a solid second round choice. However, he could even slip from there. We are much better off taking a Joe Thomas or Levi Brown. We need an OL not just to project Daunte but to open holes for Ronnie. After we draft an OL in the first round we should look LB in the second and Earl Everett comes right to mind for me. He is going to be solid in the NFL and already has experience with Channing Crowder. Third round we should go for a value guy. There are always first and second rounders who fall to the third and fourth rounds where we can steal them. Plain and simple, Calvin Johnson is not a need at this point.
:sidelol: Your credibility just hit rock bottom. Johnson is the best WR in College football, period.


I like the Everett pick though, great coverage LB, which we drastically need.

PhinfanUK
10-09-2006, 12:33 PM
As dominant as I believe he'll be at NFL level, we have a lot more pressing neds

Breed
10-09-2006, 01:39 PM
This is what we need: Offensive linemen. Calvin Johnson is not even in the top three recievers that could possibly be in this draft. There is Jeff Samardzija (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=11102), Aundrae Allison (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=10448), and Ted Ginn Jr. Calvin Johnson is a late first but a solid second round choice. However, he could even slip from there. We are much better off taking a Joe Thomas or Levi Brown. We need an OL not just to project Daunte but to open holes for Ronnie. After we draft an OL in the first round we should look LB in the second and Earl Everett comes right to mind for me. He is going to be solid in the NFL and already has experience with Channing Crowder. Third round we should go for a value guy. There are always first and second rounders who fall to the third and fourth rounds where we can steal them. Plain and simple, Calvin Johnson is not a need at this point.

Calvin Johnson blows those other guys away.....

Of that group......

Johnson is the biggest/most physical: The only WR listed that has comparable size is Jeff Samardzja. Johnson is 6'4 (closer to 6'5 IMO) 230 pounds, Jeff Samardzja is listed at 6'5, but if you stand Calvin Johnson up to Jeff Samardzja......they would be the same height. Calvin Johnson is 235 pounds, while Samardzja is listed at 218. Johnson is as physical as TO, but has the size of Randy Moss. Edge: Calvin Johnson

Jump balls: Everybody is amazed at Randy Moss' ability to get jumpballs.......they haven't seen Calvin Johnson. Throw the ball up, and Calvin Johnson will get it. Samardzja has the size, but he doesn't have the 'ups' that Calvin Johnson does. Edge Calvin Johnson

Hands: Calvin Johnson has the best hands in the draft; nobody else even compares. He'll make the easy catches, he'll make the circus catches......he has excellent concentration.

Speed: Ted Ginn Jr. has great speed, but it's mostly deep speed. His speed is still good inside 20 yards, but it takes him awhile to hit his top speed. Ted Ginn Jr. is excellent and making something out of nothing, and he'll make a fine WR but he's not consistant. Ginn is also an excellent special teamer because of his escape ability (jukes/spins/stop and go..).

Calvin Johnson has great speed (and probably better acceleration), and Johnson does have excellent ball carrier vision......but it would be physically impossible for a 235 pound WR to match Ginn's ability to make something out of nothing. Calvin Johnson is only 50-55 pounds heavier. Their speed is comparable, so Edge: even. Escape ability/agility: Ted Ginn Jr.

Ted Ginn Jr. will have a great game, and then have 3 or 4 mediocre (at best) games. Calvin Johnson is more consistant because he's got it all. Every attribute Calvin Johnson has, is amazing. Give him a cushion, he'll make you pay, play bump and run.......he'll make you pay. He's as physical as TO, he's got the hands of Torry Holt, he can go deep like Randy Moss, and he can also go up and get the ball like Randy Moss.

Make no mistake about it......Calvin Johnson is very special.

Motion
10-09-2006, 01:46 PM
Calvin Johnson blows those other guys away.....

Of that group......

Johnson is the biggest/most physical: The only WR listed that has comparable size is Jeff Samardzja. Johnson is 6'4 (closer to 6'5 IMO) 230 pounds, Jeff Samardzja is listed at 6'5, but if you stand Calvin Johnson up to Jeff Samardzja......they would be the same height. Calvin Johnson is 235 pounds, while Samardzja is listed at 218. Johnson is as physical as TO, but has the size of Randy Moss. Edge: Calvin Johnson

Jump balls: Everybody is amazed at Randy Moss' ability to get jumpballs.......they haven't seen Calvin Johnson. Throw the ball up, and Calvin Johnson will get it. Samardzja has the size, but he doesn't have the 'ups' that Calvin Johnson does. Edge Calvin Johnson

Hands: Calvin Johnson has the best hands in the draft; nobody else even compares. He'll make the easy catches, he'll make the circus catches......he has excellent concentration.

Speed: Ted Ginn Jr. has great speed, but it's mostly deep speed. His speed is still good inside 20 yards, but it takes him awhile to hit his top speed. Ted Ginn Jr. is excellent and making something out of nothing, and he'll make a fine WR but he's not consistant. Ginn is also an excellent special teamer because of his escape ability (jukes/spins/stop and go..).

Calvin Johnson has great speed (and probably better acceleration), and Johnson does have excellent ball carrier vision......but it would be physically impossible for a 235 pound WR to match Ginn's ability to make something out of nothing. Calvin Johnson is only 50-55 pounds heavier. Their speed is comparable, so Edge: even. Escape ability/agility: Ted Ginn Jr.

Ted Ginn Jr. will have a great game, and then have 3 or 4 mediocre (at best) games. Calvin Johnson is more consistant because he's got it all. Every attribute Calvin Johnson has, is amazing. Give him a cushion, he'll make you pay, play bump and run.......he'll make you pay. He's as physical as TO, he's got the hands of Torry Holt, he can go deep like Randy Moss, and he can also go up and get the ball like Randy Moss.

Make no mistake about it......Calvin Johnson is very special.

Great post

jbyrd423
10-10-2006, 11:04 PM
yea man if u think calvin johnson is going to be a 2nd round pick your crazy, the guy is going top 5. even though we need linemen if he was on the board when we were picking i wuld want him over anyone. let saban det some linemne in kater rounds and free agency

PhinsRock
10-14-2006, 01:52 PM
We need OL or Daunte/Joey won't ever have time to throw to a Calvin Johnson, or any other WR for that matter. What's the matter with you guys? The last thing we need to do is draft a WR that nobody has the time to throw to. He would languish in mediocrity, we MUST have OL that can give our QB, no matter who it is, time to throw and blocks to free RB, otherwise no matter who we might draft at WR, they'll do NOTHING here until we get an OL. I wouldn't draft Rice at WR if he were available, even the best to ever play the position still needs a QB to have time to throw to him, or guess what - he won't catch a thing!

Mainge
10-14-2006, 03:19 PM
This is what we need: Offensive linemen. Calvin Johnson is not even in the top three recievers that could possibly be in this draft. There is Jeff Samardzija (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=11102), Aundrae Allison (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=10448), and Ted Ginn Jr. Calvin Johnson is a late first but a solid second round choice. However, he could even slip from there. We are much better off taking a Joe Thomas or Levi Brown. We need an OL not just to project Daunte but to open holes for Ronnie. After we draft an OL in the first round we should look LB in the second and Earl Everett comes right to mind for me. He is going to be solid in the NFL and already has experience with Channing Crowder. Third round we should go for a value guy. There are always first and second rounders who fall to the third and fourth rounds where we can steal them. Plain and simple, Calvin Johnson is not a need at this point.

Are you freakin' kidding me?

C.J. will be the first player taken, and if not, the first receiver taken by far.

Nick Mangold
10-20-2006, 05:48 PM
Calvin Johnson is not even in the top three recievers that could possibly be in this draft. There is Jeff Samardzija (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=11102), Aundrae Allison (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=10448), and Ted Ginn Jr. Calvin Johnson is a late first but a solid second round choice.

:eek:

this is without a doubt the most ******ed thing i've read on this site and obviously you dont even watch college football.

i feel sorry for you because of the abuse you will get after that absolutely obsurd statement.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
10-20-2006, 08:26 PM
This is what we need: Offensive linemen. Calvin Johnson is not even in the top three recievers that could possibly be in this draft. There is Jeff Samardzija (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=11102), Aundrae Allison (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=10448), and Ted Ginn Jr. Calvin Johnson is a late first but a solid second round choice. However, he could even slip from there.
you. are. wrong. plain and simple.

Breed
10-20-2006, 09:05 PM
:eek:

this is without a doubt the most ******ed thing i've read on this site and obviously you dont even watch college football.

i feel sorry for you because of the abuse you will get after that absolutely obsurd statement.

Calvin Johnson will be the first WR taken; even if he runs a 4.7 40 and has a 30 inch vertical. Best WR in this class, nobody else is even close.

Nick Mangold
10-24-2006, 01:37 PM
Best WR in this class, nobody else is even close.

:up:

absolutely right by a landslide.

TimeGap
10-24-2006, 04:43 PM
We need help with every position on this team execpt RB so whoever we pick will be fine with me.