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Teenwolf
10-10-2006, 03:05 AM
Who plays in the national title game if:

Florida, USC and Michigan or Ohio State run the table?

I can see USC getting left out in the cold!

DonShula84
10-10-2006, 04:48 AM
USC will lose a game. And If OSU runs the table that means Michigan lost a game. That would leave OSU vs UF left.

Even if USC does manage to run the table they will be left out because OSU has been ranked 1 all year so they wont get jumped and UF has a tougher schedule so they deserve it over USC.

zachequalsgod
10-10-2006, 05:02 AM
USC won't play in the NT.

Motion
10-10-2006, 06:46 AM
USC will lose at least one game. Michigan and OSU play each other which will knock one of them out. And Florida still has a tough road ahead, playing @Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, and @ Florida State. Very hard to tell who will play for the NC right now.

Blade
10-10-2006, 08:01 AM
USC will lose at least one game. Michigan and OSU play each other which will knock one of them out. And Florida still has a tough road ahead, playing @Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, and @ Florida State. Very hard to tell who will play for the NC right now.

I agree, its too early to tell but I am pretty sure who ever wins the OSU/Michigan game will be one of the teams in the National Title game. The other team is too hard to tell but i think Florida will be able to run the table and make it in.

LouPhinFan
10-10-2006, 08:39 AM
Here's a hypothetical:

What if USC, FL, and Michigan/Ohio State all end up with 1 loss?

Motion
10-10-2006, 08:45 AM
Here's a hypothetical:

What if USC, FL, and Michigan/Ohio State all end up with 1 loss?

Well it all depends who that one loss is too. Michigan and OSU will be separated regardless because they play each other the last week of the season. Florida would get the nod over USC based on strength of schedule. You would also have to consider the winner of the WVU/UL game because they will most likely be undefeated.

Stitches
10-10-2006, 09:08 AM
Yea, I see either Louisville or WV going undefeated. Florida has the hardest schedule of all the other 4 teams that got listed.

Majpain
10-10-2006, 09:45 AM
I rather play UF in the national title game. It would prove to be a great match or so I'm told :wink::tongue:

Cuban Dave 9
10-10-2006, 11:45 AM
Who plays in the national title game if:

Florida, USC and Michigan or Ohio State run the table?

I can see USC getting left out in the cold!
lol...well its about time the tables turn

TexPhinPhan
10-10-2006, 12:20 PM
Here's a hypothetical:

What if USC, FL, and Michigan/Ohio State all end up with 1 loss?
I must throw in with my homer 2 cents. If that happens, UT has to be considered because they had the good fortune of losing early. It seems that the pollsters etc have a short memory and don't hold early season losses against teams as much as those late season slip ups.

Please file this post under the wishful thinking category.

Texphinphan

finswin56
10-10-2006, 12:29 PM
I must throw in with my homer 2 cents. If that happens, UT has to be considered because they had the good fortune of losing early. It seems that the pollsters etc have a short memory and don't hold early season losses against teams as much as those late season slip ups.

Please file this post under the wishful thinking category.

TexphinphanNo doubt. Losing big at home would take a some short memories to be overlooked :wink:

AirFishOne
10-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Hey Horn just wanted to say congrats on the great win saturday thx for ruining my bday again :tongue: good luck the rest of the way

TexPhinPhan
10-11-2006, 10:07 AM
Hey Horn just wanted to say congrats on the great win saturday thx for ruining my bday again :tongue: good luck the rest of the way

my pleasure and happy birthday

Dors156
10-11-2006, 08:22 PM
i think usc is so overated.i dont think that they are top 7 worthy

Mike13
10-11-2006, 11:59 PM
USC won't be in the National Title hunt.

Blade
10-12-2006, 08:36 AM
USC won't be in the National title hunt.

i second that notion....

Motion
10-12-2006, 08:43 AM
i think usc is so overated.i dont think that they are top 7 worthy

:yeahthat:

Oboy
10-12-2006, 09:06 AM
Truthfully a better question is what IF OSU (lets just say them) stays undefeated. All the other mentioned teams lose one game, but WVU or Louisville runs the table... Then who plays? There was talk on the radio today that the strength of schedule of those two Big East teams would leave them out and make one of the one loss teams in the big game!

Personally, I feel if one of the Big East teams runs the table and no one else does (or just one other team does) then they should be in the game...

Just interesting food for thought.

finswin56
10-12-2006, 09:56 AM
Truthfully a better question is what IF OSU (lets just say them) stays undefeated. All the other mentioned teams lose one game, but WVU or Louisville runs the table... Then who plays? There was talk on the radio today that the strength of schedule of those two Big East teams would leave them out and make one of the one loss teams in the big game!

Personally, I feel if one of the Big East teams runs the table and no one else does (or just one other team does) then they should be in the game...

Just interesting food for thought.I heard that too. I think it would depend on how/where/who a team with one loss happened, and how WV/Louiseville performed the rest of the way in their victories.

Whitner20
10-12-2006, 10:27 AM
WV and Louisville don't play ANYONE.....there schedules are garbage, and the Big East is on par with Conf USA and the MAC as far as competitiveness.....

The Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 laugh at the Big east.

If either of those teams gets consideration over a legitimate team that lost a game, simply for going undefeated against the teams they played it would be a joke.

Ohio State will be playing either Florida, or USC....unless Florida drops 2 games, USC loses to Michigan and WV loses to Louisville, and Louisville loses to Rutgers, throwq in a Texas loss @ nebraska ....

...fast forward to Nov 18th....Ohio State beats Michigan, yet Michigan reamins @ #2 setting up a rematch for the national title.. Ohio State vs michigan....the utimate game between the ultimate rivals.....

Motion
10-12-2006, 10:33 AM
...fast forward to Nov 18th....Ohio State beats Michigan, yet Michigan reamins @ #2 setting up a rematch for the national title.. Ohio State vs michigan....the utimate game between the ultimate rivals.....

Thats EXTREMELY rare that kinda thing happens.

Last time was 10 years ago when #1 Florida lost to #2 FSU the last game of the season and dropped to like 5 and all 3 teams ahead of them lost their conference championship games setting up a rematch, which was a Gator blowout. :D

Pennington's Rocket Arm
10-12-2006, 10:55 AM
michigan/ohio state is so boring, we don't need that twice a year.

Whitner20
10-12-2006, 11:20 AM
michigan/ohio state is so boring, we don't need that twice a year.

What? When you Florida guys start to understand college football then you can appreciate the greatest rivalry in sports history.

Did you watch last years game.....far, far, far, from boring

Ohio State comes back down 21-12 with 7 minutes left in the fourth quarter to score with :24 left on the clock.......700 yards of offense, amazing game......

Motion
10-12-2006, 11:25 AM
What? When you Florida guys start to understand college football then you can appreciate the greatest rivalry in sports history.

Did you watch last years game.....far, far, far, from boring

Ohio State comes back down 21-12 with 7 minutes left in the fourth quarter to score with :24 left on the clock.......700 yards of offense, amazing game......

Don't stereotype, thats one person's opinion.

Whitner20
10-12-2006, 11:43 AM
Don't stereotype, thats one person's opinion.

I'm just kidding......

Florida vs Ohio State is my guess at this point.

How does Florida travel, cause Ohio State is probably the best represented college team in terms of fans @ away games........

Motion
10-12-2006, 11:47 AM
Still alot of football to be played, especially for Florida. I'm not trying to get my National Championship hopes up to high just yet. We take care of Auburn and Georgia and I'll feel much better.

I'm sure Gator Nation will be there in full force when they make it there though. :wink:

Cuban Dave 9
10-12-2006, 12:18 PM
I'm just kidding......

Florida vs Ohio State is my guess at this point.

How does Florida travel, cause Ohio State is probably the best represented college team in terms of fans @ away games........
We travel a lot better than the U that's for sure

LouPhinFan
10-12-2006, 01:36 PM
WV and Louisville don't play ANYONE.....there schedules are garbage, and the Big East is on par with Conf USA and the MAC as far as competitiveness.....

The Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 laugh at the Big east.

If either of those teams gets consideration over a legitimate team that lost a game, simply for going undefeated against the teams they played it would be a joke.



Blah, blah, blah, I get so TIRED of hearing crap like that. Yeah U of L and WVU's schedules aren't as strong because the league is recovering from the ACC raid. They can't really strengthen their nonconference schedule, because no one will play them. I know for a fact that Ohio State won't play U of L. We almost beat them in the early 90's at the horseshoe. After that game they said they would never sign for another series with us again. Cowardice...maybe. But I agree with them. Why sign for series with U of L when you already play in a tough conference with many tough games. I was amazed that they signed to play TX. U of L was lucky they got a series with Miami. Right now they're working on getting one with ND.

Cuban Dave 9
10-12-2006, 02:01 PM
Blah, blah, blah, I get so TIRED of hearing crap like that. Yeah U of L and WVU's schedules aren't as strong because the league is recovering from the ACC raid. They can't really strengthen their nonconference schedule, because no one will play them. I know for a fact that Ohio State won't play U of L. We almost beat them in the early 90's at the horseshoe. After that game they said they would never sign for another series with us again. Cowardice...maybe. But I agree with them. Why sign for series with U of L when you already play in a tough conference with many tough games. I was amazed that they signed to play TX. U of L was lucky they got a series with Miami. Right now they're working on getting one with ND.
That would probably go through...ND plays everybody

Stitches
10-12-2006, 02:23 PM
What? When you Florida guys start to understand college football then you can appreciate the greatest rivalry in sports history.

Did you watch last years game.....far, far, far, from boring

Ohio State comes back down 21-12 with 7 minutes left in the fourth quarter to score with :24 left on the clock.......700 yards of offense, amazing game......

I hate OSU, but I do love to watch the OSU vs. Michigan games. They are always entertaining for any college football fan.

Motion
10-12-2006, 02:27 PM
I hate OSU, but I do love to watch the OSU vs. Michigan games. They are always entertaining for any college football fan.

:yeahthat:

I feel the same way about USC/ND, Miami/FSU, LSU/Auburn, Auburn/Alabama, etc...

Whitner20
10-12-2006, 02:45 PM
Blah, blah, blah, I get so TIRED of hearing crap like that. Yeah U of L and WVU's schedules aren't as strong because the league is recovering from the ACC raid. They can't really strengthen their nonconference schedule, because no one will play them. I know for a fact that Ohio State won't play U of L. We almost beat them in the early 90's at the horseshoe. After that game they said they would never sign for another series with us again. Cowardice...maybe. But I agree with them. Why sign for series with U of L when you already play in a tough conference with many tough games. I was amazed that they signed to play TX. U of L was lucky they got a series with Miami. Right now they're working on getting one with ND.

Ohio State wouldn't sign it then maybe...... but we have a new president, a new AD, and a new coach now..... we've got MONSTER schedules for the next decade...

On top of the Big ten schedule:

2007: @ Washington (not too bad, we'll need it)
2008: @ Univ. of Southern Cal
2009: USC @ the Shoe
2010: Miami, FL
2011: @ Miami, FL
2012: Cal (location TBA)
2013: Cal (location TBA)
2014: Va. Tech (TBA)
2015: Va Tech (TBA)
2016: Oklahoma (TBA)
2017: Oklahoma (TBA)
2009:

Motion
10-12-2006, 02:57 PM
Ohio State wouldn't sign it then maybe...... but we have a new president, a new AD, and a new coach now..... we've got MONSTER schedules for the next decade...

On top of the Big ten schedule:

2007: @ Washington (not too bad, we'll need it)
2008: @ Univ. of Southern Cal
2009: USC @ the Shoe
2010: Miami, FL
2011: @ Miami, FL
2012: Cal (location TBA)
2013: Cal (location TBA)
2014: Va. Tech (TBA)
2015: Va Tech (TBA)
2016: Oklahoma (TBA)
2017: Oklahoma (TBA)
2009:

I wouldn't exactly call them "MONSTER" but its definitely respectable compared to many of the top 10 team's schedules.

Stitches
10-12-2006, 04:05 PM
I wouldn't exactly call them "MONSTER" but its definitely respectable compared to many of the top 10 team's schedules.

Makes up for the past decade of fluff (non-conference) games, and the 7+ home games a year.

Whitner20
10-12-2006, 04:33 PM
Makes up for the past decade of fluff (non-conference) games, and the 7+ home games a year.

??? Texas ???

in 2002 we played Texas Tech...Washington State who was #7 at the time... We've played Washington, NC State, and Texas twice over the last 4 years.....

Tressel doesn't schedule bums.

DonShula84
10-12-2006, 05:05 PM
WV and Louisville don't play ANYONE.....there schedules are garbage, and the Big East is on par with Conf USA and the MAC as far as competitiveness.....

The Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 laugh at the Big east.

If either of those teams gets consideration over a legitimate team that lost a game, simply for going undefeated against the teams they played it would be a joke.

Ohio State will be playing either Florida, or USC....unless Florida drops 2 games, USC loses to Michigan and WV loses to Louisville, and Louisville loses to Rutgers, throwq in a Texas loss @ nebraska ....

...fast forward to Nov 18th....Ohio State beats Michigan, yet Michigan reamins @ #2 setting up a rematch for the national title.. Ohio State vs michigan....the utimate game between the ultimate rivals.....

Sorry but Michigan losing a game that late will drop them. Not to mention a bowl game makes more money off having a new matchup. That will never happen.

DonShula84
10-12-2006, 05:08 PM
Also I dont think WVU schedule is only easy because they play in the Big East. The problem is they play in the Big East and then schedule joke opponents for their non conference games. If they schedule some Big 10 or SEC teams, even a Pac 10 team would be an upgrade over what they play now as the non conference games Id have no problem with them.

DonShula84
10-12-2006, 07:46 PM
On ESPN they just posted their projected BCS rankings, which come out next week, it was

OSU
USC
Florida

I forget the others but Notre Dame was 6 and WVU wasnt in the top 6

Mike13
10-12-2006, 09:09 PM
On ESPN they just posted their projected BCS rankings, which come out next week, it was

OSU
USC
Florida

I forget the others but Notre Dame was 6 and WVU wasnt in the top 6

Unbelieveable, USC does not deserve to be that high.



2010: Miami, FL

Maybe they would have recovered from Coker's mess by then.

brandon1986
10-12-2006, 10:28 PM
hard to tell right now, i hope florida is their, and if they only have 1 loss this year they deserve a shot

osu might lose a game, usc is overrated, michigan looks pretty good but who knows

in a couple of weeks we will know

finswin56
10-12-2006, 10:47 PM
I hate these early BCS rankings. They are absolutely useless at this point, and only serve as something for everyone to talk about.

cnc66
10-12-2006, 11:00 PM
What? When you Florida guys start to understand college football then you can appreciate the greatest rivalry in sports history.

Did you watch last years game.....far, far, far, from boring

Ohio State comes back down 21-12 with 7 minutes left in the fourth quarter to score with :24 left on the clock.......700 yards of offense, amazing game......

pack it in your big O pal...we don't need any lessons from you.

finswin56
10-12-2006, 11:25 PM
pack it in your big O pal...we don't need any lessons from you.:chuckle: Marty, you're the best man. You freaking kill me sometimes.

Motion
10-13-2006, 05:52 AM
I hate these early BCS rankings. They are absolutely useless at this point, and only serve as something for everyone to talk about.

Article I was reading the other day said OSU was only #1 in 3 of the 6 BCS components.

finswin56
10-13-2006, 07:51 AM
Article I was reading the other day said OSU was only #1 in 3 of the 6 BCS components.Maybe it's just me, but I don't pay any attention to this stuff, this early. It's too easy to let it get you bent out of shape, when it's really like looking at the first half of an equation and assuming you can solve it w/o the other half.
Reviewing these BCS rankings is an expercise in futility.

Motion
10-13-2006, 08:05 AM
Maybe it's just me, but I don't pay any attention to this stuff, this early. It's too easy to let it get you bent out of shape, when it's really like looking at the first half of an equation and assuming you can solve it w/o the other half.
Reviewing these BCS rankings is an expercise in futility.

Couldn't agree more. Still ALOT of football to be played.

Stitches
10-13-2006, 08:32 AM
Couldn't agree more. Still ALOT of football to be played.


There is ALOT left. I'd like to see even more thought in the future.

I'd like to see the Big Ten have a championship game like Big XII and SEC have. It'd be tough to get them to agree to playing everyone in thier conference, like the Pac-10 does, because then they'd only be able to have 2 non-conference games. Not to mention, they'd never schedule to play anyone good outside thier own conference. It's hard enough as is for small schools to make a dent in recruiting, and if the Big Ten played no one out of conference, it'd be even tougher. That's why I want a championship game for the Big Ten, like the other 2 big boys have. Of course a playoff system might help the small schools out, but that is a whole nother thread, and I'm already off topic.

finswin56
10-13-2006, 08:54 AM
There is ALOT left. I'd like to see even more thought in the future.

I'd like to see the Big Ten have a championship game like Big XII and SEC have. It'd be tough to get them to agree to playing everyone in thier conference, like the Pac-10 does, because then they'd only be able to have 2 non-conference games. Not to mention, they'd never schedule to play anyone good outside thier own conference. It's hard enough as is for small schools to make a dent in recruiting, and if the Big Ten played no one out of conference, it'd be even tougher. That's why I want a championship game for the Big Ten, like the other 2 big boys have. Of course a playoff system might help the small schools out, but that is a whole nother thread, and I'm already off topic.They absolutely shoud, as should the Pac-10, and Big East.
It is ABSURD that the Big-12, SEC, and ACC play this game, when the other conferences do not. It is always a tough game, often it means having to play a team you already beat a second time. That makes it even tougher. The conference championships inequality, IMO, is worse than a lack of playoffs.

Motion
10-13-2006, 08:57 AM
There is ALOT left. I'd like to see even more thought in the future.

I'd like to see the Big Ten have a championship game like Big XII and SEC have. It'd be tough to get them to agree to playing everyone in thier conference, like the Pac-10 does, because then they'd only be able to have 2 non-conference games. Not to mention, they'd never schedule to play anyone good outside thier own conference. It's hard enough as is for small schools to make a dent in recruiting, and if the Big Ten played no one out of conference, it'd be even tougher. That's why I want a championship game for the Big Ten, like the other 2 big boys have. Of course a playoff system might help the small schools out, but that is a whole nother thread, and I'm already off topic.
They could always split the conference into 2 divisions like the SEC, Big XII, and ACC does.

Stitches
10-13-2006, 09:01 AM
They absolutely shoud, as should the Pac-10, and Big East.
It is ABSURD that the Big-12, SEC, and ACC play this game, when the other conferences do not. It is always a tough game, often it means having to play a team you already beat a second time. That makes it even tougher. The conference championships inequality, IMO, is worse than a lack of playoffs.

In the Pac-10's defense, they opted to play all thier conference opponents rather than have the championship game. But I think the championship game is a better barometer as to who is deserving, because teams can heat up or cool down as the season goes on, so a team might be able to work it's way to the championship, and defeat a team that beat them early. And I'm sorry, but I don't rank the Big East up there with the SEC, Big XII, and Big Ten. I don't put them up there with the Pac-10 even. But to think that even the MAC plays a championship game, the Big East should too. (I think the MAC is fairly balanced overall, while the Big East is top heavy).

Stitches
10-13-2006, 09:02 AM
They could always split the conference into 2 divisions like the SEC, Big XII, and ACC does.

I know. I'm just saying they could do one or the other(a championship or play everyone), just not both. And I think it'd be better for college football if they didn't do what the Pac-10 does.

Motion
10-13-2006, 09:11 AM
I know. I'm just saying they could do one or the other(a championship or play everyone), just not both. And I think it'd be better for college football if they didn't do what the Pac-10 does.

I agree

finswin56
10-13-2006, 09:33 AM
In the Pac-10's defense, they opted to play all thier conference opponents rather than have the championship game. But I think the championship game is a better barometer as to who is deserving, because teams can heat up or cool down as the season goes on, so a team might be able to work it's way to the championship, and defeat a team that beat them early. And I'm sorry, but I don't rank the Big East up there with the SEC, Big XII, and Big Ten. I don't put them up there with the Pac-10 even. But to think that even the MAC plays a championship game, the Big East should too. (I think the MAC is fairly balanced overall, while the Big East is top heavy).The Big East is a BCS conference, therefore should be held to the same standard as the other conferences. I get what you mean in regard to their overall talent level.

I also understand the Pac-10 playing everyone, but is not anywhere close to having a championship game where you will play the other division's best team, and could very well be playing them for the second time.
But, I agree that the Big 10's situation is even worse than the Pac-10. BOTH need a championship.

Bumpus
10-13-2006, 09:36 AM
WV and Louisville don't play ANYONE.....there schedules are garbage, and the Big East is on par with Conf USA and the MAC as far as competitiveness.....

The Big 10, SEC, and Big 12 laugh at the Big east.

If either of those teams gets consideration over a legitimate team that lost a game, simply for going undefeated against the teams they played it would be a joke.

Ohio State will be playing either Florida, or USC....unless Florida drops 2 games, USC loses to Michigan and WV loses to Louisville, and Louisville loses to Rutgers, throwq in a Texas loss @ nebraska ....

...fast forward to Nov 18th....Ohio State beats Michigan, yet Michigan reamins @ #2 setting up a rematch for the national title.. Ohio State vs michigan....the utimate game between the ultimate rivals.....

Laugh at the Big East? Perhaps, although to laugh at WVU or Louisville is to laugh at your own peril.

However, I feel that it is completely acceptable to laugh at your post.
:lol: the ultimate rediculous statement from the ultimate homer

Bumpus
10-13-2006, 09:46 AM
As for the conference championship games ... you guys do understand the reason why they play them don't you?












MONEY



It's not so the conference can look "tougher" or to get the league champ another win. It is simply to get another game in. Remember when the ACC was raiding the Big East (:fire: ) they were scrambling at the end to get another team so that they could have a championship game to increase league revenue.

Additional game = more loot

Stitches
10-13-2006, 10:53 AM
As for the conference championship games ... you guys do understand the reason why they play them don't you?












MONEY



It's not so the conference can look "tougher" or to get the league champ another win. It is simply to get another game in. Remember when the ACC was raiding the Big East (:fire: ) they were scrambling at the end to get another team so that they could have a championship game to increase league revenue.

Additional game = more loot

I know the reason is more money, but the result from that is still a better product overall for the conference and for college football.

Bumpus
10-13-2006, 11:57 AM
If we want a better product for college football, then a playoff system is the only way to go.

Blade
10-13-2006, 12:32 PM
I heard or read somewhere (i dont remember which one or where) that the Big Ten was lookin for another team to enter thier conference so they could divide the conference into 2 divisons and have a championship game. However this could have been a drunk guy one night sayin this and it turned into a rumor, i dont really know.

Stitches
10-13-2006, 02:38 PM
If we want a better product for college football, then a playoff system is the only way to go.

I agree. I would much rather have a playoff. Boise State might have thier chance at a NC that way, lol.

ZolarZ_GoPhins
10-13-2006, 03:25 PM
The BigEast and Pac-10 have no reason to have a Conf Champ Game since they play every team in their Conf. I don't like the game and think that the total of season play more accurately decides who should play in the BCS game then a Champ game. It is about money plain and simple. It hurts conferences when you don't send your best team to the BCS game. Look at both the ACC and SEC last year. LSU and Va Tech were the best teams in their Conf and got beat by a team that knew them well. The winners of the Champ game went on to lose BCS games. Just imagine if Colorado would have beat Texas in their Conf Champ game.

I don't like it and I hope the BigEast never goes to a Conf Champ game. Personally I would like to see the BigEast add one team then have 8 conf games and 4 nonconf. Let the total sum of the season decide the winner. I like playing every team in your conference every year.

Last I will leave you with this final thought.

The Conference Championship Games do not validate the Topdog in the conference when they beat a team they should beat in the Championship Game. What they do is give the Underdog a chance to win and make up for mistakes earlier in the year.

Whitner20
10-13-2006, 04:03 PM
The last game of the regular season for Ohio is Michigan, that is the conference championship game.

ohio state doesn't need gimmicky little East vs West, North vs South nonsense.... we play our schedule, we mop the floor with the Wolverines and thats that......

The LAST thing Ohio State and Michigan want is a "Championship game" .... we do things old school.

LouPhinFan
10-13-2006, 05:02 PM
If we want a better product for college football, then a playoff system is the only way to go.

That would be nice, but there is way too much money tied up in the bowl system

LoXiN
10-13-2006, 11:10 PM
The last game of the regular season for Ohio is Michigan, that is the conference championship game.

The LAST thing Ohio State and Michigan want is a "Championship game" .... we do things old school.

Fact of the matter is this isnt only the Conference Championship game but most likely going to determin the National Champion this year.

Big Ten All The Way!

finswin56
10-15-2006, 06:29 PM
The last game of the regular season for Ohio is Michigan, that is the conference championship game.

ohio state doesn't need gimmicky little East vs West, North vs South nonsense.... we play our schedule, we mop the floor with the Wolverines and thats that......

The LAST thing Ohio State and Michigan want is a "Championship game" .... we do things old school.:rolleyes: Give me a break with the old school garbage. Old school is sentimental nonsense in this argument. The fact is, if you had a conference championship game, you could face the same team twice... Just like UF will likely do with Auburn this year. Jesus, the Big Ten doesn't even make every team play each other, how weak is that :fire: