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SkapePhin
10-22-2006, 08:17 PM
Post in the correct forum.

This team needs a damned PLAYMAKER. Sure, we need OL help, but with a Top 5 pick, I take Calvin Johnson or Brady Quinn...

This team is devoid of playmakers... 1-6. Worst team in the league now.

MustangFinFan
10-22-2006, 08:18 PM
who the hell is calvin johnson?

DonShula84
10-22-2006, 08:19 PM
who the hell is calvin johnson?

Watch college football imo

dominizzo
10-22-2006, 08:21 PM
Whose CJ Comapred to??!!! Steve Smith

bigchub22
10-22-2006, 08:22 PM
you live in ACC country and dont know that name must not be a college fan i take it..... he is the best wide reciever in the country thats who he plays for georgia tech

MarinoForPres
10-22-2006, 08:24 PM
who the hell is calvin johnson?
u cant be serious! 6-5 wr from GT he is the man

LouisOliver#25
10-22-2006, 08:25 PM
Post in the correct forum.

This team needs a damned PLAYMAKER. Sure, we need OL help, but with a Top 5 pick, I take Calvin Johnson or Brady Quinn...

This team is devoid of playmakers... 1-6. Worst team in the league now.



Couldn't agree more!! Calvin Johnson is a game changer and would be great for Daunte!!!

alen1
10-22-2006, 08:30 PM
Whose CJ Comapred to??!!! Steve Smith

they said hes a mix of T.O and randy moss cept w/o the attitude ......... i agree with them

Link
10-22-2006, 08:30 PM
I couldn't agree more. The dude has insane speed and makes a huge target. We need that BAD!

Sean
10-22-2006, 08:36 PM
i LOVE calvin johnson and also Marshawn Lynch, but we need Joe Thomas more

DonShula84
10-22-2006, 08:40 PM
Whose CJ Comapred to??!!! Steve Smith

no, Johnson is big, more like a TO than a Steve Smith

alen1
10-22-2006, 08:43 PM
i dont really think that we need joe thomas more then CJ cuz if we can get a good center in the free agent market or draft one w/ the second round pick, plus with cj all you have to do is : FLY ROUTE = TOUCHDOWN ....... this guy is randy moss like and we all kno how cpep was w/ randy. take a three step drop n lob it up if the fly route takes too much time ..... no body can jump with calvin because hes 6'5, 4.4 speed , 41 inch vertical i believe ( not quite right but i think its round there or higher) and great hands

djfresh47
10-22-2006, 08:45 PM
Whose CJ Comapred to??!!! Steve Smith

Steve Smith is a smaller WR and Johnson is 6'5. I think he's going to be the best player in the draft. He's only a Jr I think. I'd compare him to Randy Moss.

RDubL84
10-22-2006, 08:58 PM
Calvin who? He sure did have a great game yesterday againt the Tigers. I went to that game and he was absolutely shut down.

dominizzo
10-22-2006, 09:05 PM
WOOOW!!! Draft Calvin Nick!!


That Means Booker has to go

SpencerFS
10-22-2006, 09:23 PM
Calvin who? He sure did have a great game yesterday againt the Tigers. I went to that game and he was absolutely shut down.

lol i live in gerogia and have the pleasure of wathcing all of the GT games been to one too CJ is the real deal he is huge up close but if he had a descent qb he would be putting up huge numbers compared to the ones he already is reggie ball is the one of the worst qb in college football.

fishyanks
10-22-2006, 09:30 PM
lol i live in gerogia and have the pleasure of wathcing all of the GT games been to one too CJ is the real deal he is huge up close but if he had a descent qb he would be putting up huge numbers compared to the ones he already is reggie ball is the one of the worst qb in college football.
thats very true ball is basically an option qb. He sucks. I cant even magine u passing on cj. Then quinn then thomas.

BrazForPhins
10-22-2006, 09:30 PM
CJ highlights

2:35 video with lots of highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOuHzq-cz3s)
game winner vs Clemson (2004) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a9vbXISRCw&mode)
amazing one-handed catch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXRqyjzyBRg&mode=related&search=)
58 yard TD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baeAsiaOdyM&mode)
66 yard TD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0XAtxQX97g&mode)
53 yard TD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6vY-BqJQJ0&NR)

Link
10-22-2006, 09:40 PM
CJ highlights

2:35 video with lots of highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOuHzq-cz3s)
game winner vs Clemson (2004) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a9vbXISRCw&mode)
amazing one-handed catch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXRqyjzyBRg&mode=related&search=)
58 yard TD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baeAsiaOdyM&mode)
66 yard TD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0XAtxQX97g&mode)
53 yard TD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6vY-BqJQJ0&NR)

Yup I saw those too. After watching what he can do there is no doubt in my mind that we need him and he would be a huge player for this team.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
10-22-2006, 09:42 PM
Calvin who? He sure did have a great game yesterday againt the Tigers. I went to that game and he was absolutely shut down.
he's only been shutdown twice in 3 years, both against clemson. i doubt any pro bowl receiver in the NFL has dominated every game in college. he's so freaking good.

BrazForPhins
10-22-2006, 09:43 PM
Yup I saw those too. After watching what he can do there is no doubt in my mind that we need him and he would be a huge player for this team.

CJ's amazing..fast as hell, great hands, great height..he'll dominate..I hope we can get him

biglionel87
10-22-2006, 09:52 PM
Are you kidding me?! We need either draft cj or teddy ginn with the first pick.
ginn can also help us out on special teams. this guy is a threat to go the distance everytime he touches the ball. Thats what we're lacking in our receiving core: a deep threat...and these guys can help us out in this area

DonShula84
10-22-2006, 10:27 PM
Are you kidding me?! We need either draft cj or teddy ginn with the first pick.
ginn can also help us out on special teams. this guy is a threat to go the distance everytime he touches the ball. Thats what we're lacking in our receiving core: a deep threat...and these guys can help us out in this area

Definitely passing on Ginn in the top 5

unifiedtheory
10-22-2006, 11:26 PM
Are you kidding me?! We need either draft cj or teddy ginn with the first pick.
ginn can also help us out on special teams. this guy is a threat to go the distance everytime he touches the ball. Thats what we're lacking in our receiving core: a deep threat...and these guys can help us out in this area

Ginn in the top 5? That would be a REACH.

adamprez2003
10-22-2006, 11:29 PM
This team needs Brian Brohm, Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Gaines Adams and Patrick Willis. Any scenario out there where we get all of them?

Vertical Limit
10-22-2006, 11:43 PM
Are you kidding me?! We need either draft cj or teddy ginn with the first pick.
ginn can also help us out on special teams. this guy is a threat to go the distance everytime he touches the ball. Thats what we're lacking in our receiving core: a deep threat...and these guys can help us out in this area
Much rather have Dwayne Jarrett over Teddy Ginn Jr.

It's either Calvin Johnson or Dwayne Jarrett. I don't mind either, but I'll give a slight edge to Calvin Johnson, because he's no doubt the best receiver in college, but I really really like Dwayne Jarrett as well. That guy has all the tools as well.

DonShula84
10-22-2006, 11:55 PM
Much rather have Dwayne Jarrett over Teddy Ginn Jr.

It's either Calvin Johnson or Dwayne Jarrett. I don't mind either, but I'll give a slight edge to Calvin Johnson, because he's no doubt the best receiver in college, but I really really like Dwayne Jarrett as well. That guy has all the tools as well.

Ill pass on Jarrett in the top 5 also

MiamiSportsFan
10-23-2006, 12:06 AM
Draft CJ and trade Chambers.

marino1348
10-23-2006, 12:10 AM
So he could catch exactly 0 balls in a big game?

DonShula84
10-23-2006, 12:30 AM
Draft CJ and trade Chambers.

Keep both and have a good WR duo sounds a lot better to me.

305TillIDie
10-23-2006, 12:35 AM
this guy is pretty good too :yes:

watch out 08' Draft :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqZwh4uoOKo

Majpain
10-23-2006, 12:47 AM
Agreed. CJ is amazing.

Roman529
10-23-2006, 02:27 AM
Agreed. CJ is amazing.

CJ is great, but we have a lot of needs...depends when we draft.

dominizzo
10-23-2006, 03:42 AM
Whato do with Booker if we draft calvin!! We have hagan also

dolfan91
10-23-2006, 09:15 AM
as of right now the dolphins are picking #1 in the 2007 draft... if calvin johnson does declare for the draft... i am hoping miami picks him... i know the teams needs better o-linemen... and joe thomas could possibly solidify the o-line... but with all the dropped passes the te's and wr's are making... i think it be wise to get a playmaker at the wr position... either way i'd be happy with thomas or johnson... this is going to be the most crucial draft in franchise history... lets hope they don't screw it up...

Majpain
10-23-2006, 09:29 AM
CJ is great, but we have a lot of needs...depends when we draft.

We obviously need WR that can catch sense were throwing the ball 61 times a game.

Motion
10-23-2006, 12:11 PM
CJ is great, but we have a lot of needs...depends when we draft.

WR with good hands being one of the biggest.

kinglouis2005
10-23-2006, 04:20 PM
Calvin in 07!

SR 7
10-23-2006, 04:24 PM
randy ran a 4.26 CJ runs a 4.4....that aint the same but he is awesome. dono how he compares to randy as far as that part goes...?

SpencerFS
10-23-2006, 04:43 PM
CJ is the guy we need to be a deep threat. Dc needs a guy somewhat like moss not saying that he is as good as him but i think he would be very close in skill level.

Bjorn
10-23-2006, 04:49 PM
As much as I want CJ in Miami, I think that Saban will make another homer pick and take LaRon Landry.

SR 7
10-23-2006, 04:52 PM
As much as I want CJ in Miami, I think that Saban will make another homer pick and take LaRon Landry.

Yea that wouldnt surprise me nor wuld it upset me. but not with the 2nd pick, no way.

It says that CJ will catch anyting when in single coverage, so that means they would need to double team him, so taht means iether take a guy off CC which means he would be open hopefully (considering it is still CC at the end of the day) or meaning double team both then u got hagan, mcmike (if he is even on the field to catch if not blocking or even makes a catch) or welker and R.B. free all day long. we need CJ very bad if u ask me.

Dolfan11
10-23-2006, 07:58 PM
If Calvin Johnson is there, you take him. He's a playmaker, and will be one of the best. And I wouldn't trade Chambers, I would trade Booker. Johnson and Chambers would be the perfect compliment to eachother.

victacious
10-24-2006, 04:49 PM
We need Ted Ginn Jr. ...but I won't be mad with Mr. Johnson.

Breed
10-24-2006, 04:52 PM
randy ran a 4.26 CJ runs a 4.4....that aint the same but he is awesome. dono how he compares to randy as far as that part goes...?

Randy Moss' official 40 time was 4.41

dominizzo
10-24-2006, 05:26 PM
Whats so good with Ted Ginn JR

DonShula84
10-24-2006, 06:09 PM
Whats so good with Ted Ginn JR


He is fast

Frayser
10-24-2006, 07:41 PM
Yeah, this team really needs another talented wide receiver to not throw the ball to.

Give me defense.

adamprez2003
10-24-2006, 08:33 PM
Yeah, this team really needs another talented wide receiver to not throw the ball to.

Give me defense.

:lol: :lol: I can imagine going into next season with Ronnie Brown, Ted Ginn and Chris Chambers and Mularkey would have Sammy Morris getting the ball 15 times

Majpain
10-26-2006, 09:02 AM
He is fast

The fastest WR in the Nation. Has Moss speed.

Stitches
10-26-2006, 09:24 AM
The fastest WR in the Nation. Has Moss speed.

I don't know about the fastest. There are a ton of recievers out there that I have no knowledge of. I would contend that he is currently the most productive reciever in the nation that is extremely fast.

Majpain
10-26-2006, 09:31 AM
I don't know about the fastest. There are a ton of recievers out there that I have no knowledge of. I would contend that he is currently the most productive reciever in the nation that is extremely fast.

Okay the fastest WR out of the top 25 :).

columbuslarry
10-26-2006, 01:04 PM
TO without the mouth.

PhinSoldia
10-26-2006, 01:31 PM
Couldn't agree more!! Calvin Johnson is a game changer and would be great for Daunte!!!

i agree...only if we decide that we are going with daunte for the next 5 years we pic CJ but if we decide that he will never be back to form we have to pick quinn or brohm

Pennington's Rocket Arm
10-26-2006, 01:39 PM
I don't know about the fastest. There are a ton of recievers out there that I have no knowledge of. I would contend that he is currently the most productive reciever in the nation that is extremely fast.
no he's definitely the fastest.

Stitches
10-26-2006, 01:43 PM
no he's definitely the fastest.

Of all 700+ WRs in the country you have proof that he is the fastest? The fastest what? 40 yards? 10 yards? 100 yards? The fastest mile?

How many WRs do we know absolutely nothing about? I already admitted Ginn was the fastest WR that produces. But you can't outright say he is the fastest with out having the facts on everyone.

nick1
10-26-2006, 02:27 PM
Calvin Johnson never goes over the middle somebody said, look at this catch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXRqyjzyBRg&mode=related&search=


it also shows you how bad his QB is

Stitches
10-26-2006, 02:30 PM
Calvin Johnson never goes over the middle somebody said, look at this catch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXRqyjzyBRg&mode=related&search=


it also shows you how bad his QB is

Reggie Ball is a RB not a QB :tongue:

Majpain
10-26-2006, 05:20 PM
Of all 700+ WRs in the country you have proof that he is the fastest? The fastest what? 40 yards? 10 yards? 100 yards? The fastest mile?


fastest mile doesnt mean anything.

VanDolPhan
10-26-2006, 10:35 PM
If Calvin Johnson is there, you take him.

If were picking #1 and Johnson keeps it up then I say hold a team ransom for him. Get a 1st next year, a 2nd this year and another later pick. Drop down to around 3-5 in a trade. Pick up a LT to anchor the line for the next 10 years. With having 2 2nd rounders you then have the ability to pick up an interior linemen and if you still have a jones'ing for a WR you can pick one up there. Or you could pick up a solid LB prospect to replace Spragan. Then of course you got the fantastic option of having 2 #1's the following year.

Stitches
10-27-2006, 12:10 AM
fastest mile doesnt mean anything.

I know I was making as ignorant a question as was the statement that Ginn is the fastest WR in the country.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
10-27-2006, 12:23 AM
jeez, talk about splitting hairs. :rolleyes:

Crowder52
10-27-2006, 12:56 AM
If were picking #1 and Johnson keeps it up then I say hold a team ransom for him. Get a 1st next year, a 2nd this year and another later pick. Drop down to around 3-5 in a trade. Pick up a LT to anchor the line for the next 10 years. With having 2 2nd rounders you then have the ability to pick up an interior linemen and if you still have a jones'ing for a WR you can pick one up there. Or you could pick up a solid LB prospect to replace Spragan. Then of course you got the fantastic option of having 2 #1's the following year.

I seriously doubt any team is willing to give up that much to move up 2-4 spots.

Stitches
10-27-2006, 08:08 AM
jeez, talk about splitting hairs. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry, sometimes I forget. If you knew me personally(or if I did it more often on here), you wouldn't give me saying such a thing a second thought. That's just the way I am about things a lot of times.

VanDolPhan
10-27-2006, 06:45 PM
I seriously doubt any team is willing to give up that much to move up 2-4 spots.

San Diego/New York in the QB trade of 2004 they made. Despite Eli moaning that he didn't want to play in San Diego they still got:

4th overall pick (Philip Rivers)
3rd round pick: No. 65 overall
First and fifth-round picks in the 2005 draft.

Factor in that you'll have Oakland and Washington with high draft pick options and were going to see some draft day drama.

Pipe dreaming anyways. There are currently 6 teams with 1 win so chances are Miami will pick around the 3-5 spot.

Majpain
10-28-2006, 12:51 PM
Btw Ted Ginn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGyrgqOKZLg
That video was last year highlight reel.

110 M Hurdles- 04 HS National Champ 13.40 secs

100m Dash 10.50

40 4.29

Majpain
10-28-2006, 01:00 PM
CJ has a 45 inch vert!!! Runs a 4.4 has the best hands in college football. We cant pass on him.

Crowder52
10-29-2006, 12:26 AM
San Diego/New York in the QB trade of 2004 they made. Despite Eli moaning that he didn't want to play in San Diego they still got:

4th overall pick (Philip Rivers)
3rd round pick: No. 65 overall
First and fifth-round picks in the 2005 draft.

Factor in that you'll have Oakland and Washington with high draft pick options and were going to see some draft day drama.

Pipe dreaming anyways. There are currently 6 teams with 1 win so chances are Miami will pick around the 3-5 spot.

That would be sweet but I'm pretty sure these types of deals only happen for franchise-type QBs, not WRs. Maybe Quinn finishes strong and we can trade out with someone who wants him...

Amars
10-29-2006, 08:23 PM
Johnson will be great on this team. We need someone to stretch the field.

Amars
10-29-2006, 08:24 PM
Btw Ted Ginn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGyrgqOKZLg
That video was last year highlight reel.

110 M Hurdles- 04 HS National Champ 13.40 secs

100m Dash 10.50

40 4.29


Just say no to Ted Ginn as a top 5 pick. He more like a middle of the 1st rd.

PAT13
10-30-2006, 02:14 PM
Post in the correct forum.

Since it seems obvious that Book won't be back next year, I think we should go after CJ if he's available. Despite not showing a lot this year, CC will be back but we don't have a lot a depth at WR. I know we have a lot of holes to fill but what a spectacular kid CJ is. I don't see us passing on him. Your opinion?

Gardenhead
10-30-2006, 02:18 PM
draft forum has many debates regarding Calvin Johnson

ChaozFilms
10-30-2006, 02:26 PM
We passed on Randy Moss, so why not Johnson? I don't think it's a lock that we pick him up if he's on the board. And if we do pick him up, with our luck, we'll have the next Yatil Green. I still think we need to go OL or QB with our 1st rounder.

Roman529
10-30-2006, 02:40 PM
I think we should trade down and get an additional pick (a later first rounder and 2nd rounder for our first). We need help at more than one position so we need to stock up on draft picks.

nick1
10-30-2006, 03:58 PM
Johnnie Higgins Jr is the fastest WR in the nation not Ted Ginn Jr! he's a track star who is a good Sr WR for UTEP. he runs a 4.18 and BTW he will be a 1st rounder in 2007

Pennington's Rocket Arm
10-30-2006, 04:02 PM
Jimmie Higgins is the fastest WR in the nation not Ted Ginn Jr! he's a track star who is a good Sr WR for UTEP. he runs a 4.2
you just described ted ginn.

Majpain
10-30-2006, 04:08 PM
Johnnie Higgins Jr is the fastest WR in the nation not Ted Ginn Jr! he's a track star who is a good Sr WR for UTEP. he runs a 4.18 and BTW he will be a 1st rounder in 2007

Gin runs a 4.25

nick1
10-30-2006, 04:08 PM
you just described ted ginn.
my mistake his name is Johnnie Higgins JR and he ran a 4.18, faster than Ginn JR I beleive

Majpain
10-30-2006, 04:11 PM
my mistake his name is Johnnie Higgins JR and he ran a 4.18, faster than Ginn JR I beleive
4.1???? Links to this?

nick1
10-30-2006, 04:17 PM
4.1???? Links to this?

UTEP Coach Mike Price says this is the fastest team he has ever coached. The team average in the 40-yard dash is 4.73 seconds, led by junior WR Johnnie Lee Higgins, Jr.’s clocking of 4.18 seconds

it was a year ago but still, it's on the page. just keep scrolling :lol:

http://www.utepathletics.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=10321&SPID=635&DB_OEM_ID=2100&ATCLID=190608

Pennington's Rocket Arm
10-30-2006, 04:24 PM
yeah yeah and michael vick ran a 4-flat 40 at virginia tech.

every single 40 time is inflated before the combine. every. single. one.

ginn is ridiculously fast.

Majpain
10-30-2006, 04:48 PM
WOW 4.18! Man I wanna see him run though! I doubt he can maintain that speed while changing direction. That what Ginn can to best.

QrtBck13
10-30-2006, 05:27 PM
who cares if its in the right forum...ya i agree with u saban has shown in his past drafts that he loves drafting value not weekness...so belive me if CJ is thier when we pick and he his the top value avaliable than yes we will pick him!!!!

DonShula84
10-30-2006, 05:32 PM
who cares if its in the right forum

the mods?

Stitches
10-30-2006, 05:40 PM
I think we should trade down and get an additional pick (a later first rounder and 2nd rounder for our first). We need help at more than one position so we need to stock up on draft picks.

It's not easy to trade down.

And the thread starter should look at all the threads regarding CJ before posting a new one.

Finsfan 13
10-30-2006, 06:33 PM
We need a receiver that doesn't drop passes and CJ is the answer to the wide receiver problem.

305TillIDie
10-30-2006, 06:37 PM
who cares if its in the right forum...ya i agree with u saban has shown in his past drafts that he loves drafting value not weekness...so belive me if CJ is thier when we pick and he his the top value avaliable than yes we will pick him!!!!:hide:

jlfin
10-30-2006, 07:00 PM
Post in the correct forum.

Since it seems obvious that Book won't be back next year, I think we should go after CJ if he's available. Despite not showing a lot this year, CC will be back but we don't have a lot a depth at WR. I know we have a lot of holes to fill but what a spectacular kid CJ is. I don't see us passing on him. Your opinion?

I'd rather trade CC for a 2nd rd pick, keep Booker and draft CJ.

MustangFinFan
10-30-2006, 07:18 PM
id rather keep CC, CC is younger...Booker is older DUH....and i wanna keep around the younger receivers. WHO KNOWS, with a good O-line and a guy like Calvin Johnson...CC may be motivated to play better.

nighttrain76
10-30-2006, 09:09 PM
I think we should trade down and get an additional pick (a later first rounder and 2nd rounder for our first). We need help at more than one position so we need to stock up on draft picks.


That would be perfect but it will take someone wanting to move up pretty bad.

Roman529
10-30-2006, 11:18 PM
That would be perfect but it will take someone wanting to move up pretty bad.

Someone needing a QB will want Quinn and will deal with us if we have the first pick.

nick1
10-31-2006, 12:54 PM
yeah, we won't be picking 1st if we have the #1 pick come draft time. good skill players like Peterson, Quinn, and Johnson should go first overall and we don't want any of them, trade down and get Joe Thomas at LT. than with our 2nd pick up a good young OLB