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WelcomeBack
10-23-2006, 01:55 AM
Keep in mind, these are my opinions :). You may suggest a better pick.

I believe we will be picking either 2nd or 3rd.

1st Round: Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin - Joe Thomas is a solid LT that can be the foundation of the O-Line. He's got good quickness and footwork for a man his size (6'8" 315lbs.).

2nd Round: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona - I may be a little too optimistic here, but I think Cason may fall. It seems his playing speed is much quicker than his timed speed. He's good in coverage and can definitely push to start right away.

3rd Round: Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri - A good option at OLB to take over where Spragan is right now. Spragan hasn't been what we needed and it seems like only Zach Thomas and Channing Crowder are the only reliable options.

4th Round: Craig Davis, WR, L.S.U. - Not exactly a #1 WR, but I think he can contribute. There's some good WR's in free agency that I feel we make a run for and possibly come back next year with some that can actually catch.

5th Round: To Detroit for Joey Harrington (6th becomes 5th due to extended play)

6th Round: Le'Ron McClain, FB, Alabama - Face it, we made a mistake letting Beasley go. Here's our chance to get a solid blocker for Ronnie Brown, and someone that can catch out of the backfield.

7th Round: BPA

Constructive critism is accepted. Anything you would change? Any options for the 7th Round?



Another mock -

Miami Dolphins trade Randy McMichael for an early 3rd Rounder.

1st Round: Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech - A big time playmaker. CJ can be a threat on every play and has a great mix of size and speed.

2nd Round: Arron Sears, OT, Tennessee - A big bruiser at LT. Not as tall as Joe Thomas and not as fluid, but very solid off the snap.

3rd Round(a): Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri - See above.

3rd Round(b): Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State - Daunte's injury seems to be worse than we expected and Joey Harrington is NOT the answer. Even though he is shorter than most pro QB's, Smith is a gamer.

4th Round: Jonathan Wade, CB, Tennessee - Another SEC guy. Wade has a good mix of size and speed. Good tackler and OK in coverage.

5th Round - 7th Round: Same as above

TexasFish20
10-23-2006, 02:34 AM
Nice job :D

dominizzo
10-23-2006, 03:13 AM
Cason is amazing

WelcomeBack
10-23-2006, 03:34 AM
Cason is amazing

He is very good, but I feel he will fall past Daymeion Hughes, Marcus McCauley, Darrelle Revis and Leon Hall.

WelcomeBack
10-23-2006, 04:00 AM
Edited with a second mock option.

Kyndig
10-23-2006, 05:44 AM
Keep in mind, these are my opinions :). You may suggest a better pick.

I believe we will be picking either 2nd or 3rd.

1st Round: Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin - Joe Thomas is a solid LT that can be the foundation of the O-Line. He's got good quickness and footwork for a man his size (6'8" 315lbs.).

2nd Round: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona - I may be a little too optimistic here, but I think Cason may fall. It seems his playing speed is much quicker than his timed speed. He's good in coverage and can definitely push to start right away.

3rd Round: Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri - A good option at OLB to take over where Spragan is right now. Spragan hasn't been what we needed and it seems like only Zach Thomas and Channing Crowder are the only reliable options.

4th Round: Craig Davis, WR, L.S.U. - Not exactly a #1 WR, but I think he can contribute. There's some good WR's in free agency that I feel we make a run for and possibly come back next year with some that can actually catch.

5th Round: To Detroit for Joey Harrington (6th becomes 5th due to extended play)

6th Round: Le'Ron McClain, FB, Alabama - Face it, we made a mistake letting Beasley go. Here's our chance to get a solid blocker for Ronnie Brown, and someone that can catch out of the backfield.

7th Round: BPA

Constructive critism is accepted. Anything you would change? Any options for the 7th Round?



Another mock -

Miami Dolphins trade Randy McMichael for an early 3rd Rounder.

1st Round: Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech - A big time playmaker. CJ can be a threat on every play and has a great mix of size and speed.

2nd Round: Arron Sears, OT, Tennessee - A big bruiser at LT. Not as tall as Joe Thomas and not as fluid, but very solid off the snap.

3rd Round(a): Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri - See above.

3rd Round(b): Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State - Daunte's injury seems to be worse than we expected and Joey Harrington is NOT the answer. Even though he is shorter than most pro QB's, Smith is a gamer.

4th Round: Jonathan Wade, CB, Tennessee - Another SEC guy. Wade has a good mix of size and speed. Good tackler and OK in coverage.

5th Round - 7th Round: Same as above

I like your Joe Thomas pick and McMichael trade...

endorPHINS72
10-23-2006, 06:15 AM
The only thing that bothers me about Joe Thomas is that he is a good pass blocker, not a great one. Guys that are in the top 5 in the draft shouldn't need work on their primary responsibility, which is what a left tackle's would be.

Don't get me wrong - I've seen him play and he's a mauler in the running game and can simply overpower smaller DEs, but I want to see him get better at pass-pro during the rest of the season.

NorFlaFin
10-23-2006, 08:10 AM
Arron Sears OT - not bad although I've seen him mostly as a 3rd round guy

060693
10-23-2006, 08:27 AM
Wr's contribute very little in their first year. So even if what ever wr we get in the draft is a freak of nature he may only get like 750 yards and 5 td's ( a good year for a rookie wr), and team needs alot more production. We need lineman on both sides of the line of scrimmage. We have to dominate the line of scrimmage on every down, if we want a superbowl, and right now we don't. That is why our skill positions look so mediocre right now. That is our first agenda, and if I have a finger to point at Saban, is that he did not address the line of scrimmage issue from the moment he got here. He may have thought that what these players needed was better coaching, little did he now that his predecessor was the worst drafting coach in the history of the NFL.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
10-23-2006, 08:48 AM
you're not going to rebuild this team overnight. obviously our most pressing need is o-line, but if calvin johnson is there, we HAVE to take him. we can address the line in later rounds, free agency, or try out the young guys we have now (alabi and toledo), AND in future drafts.

you're right, rookie WR's rarely have great years, but we're not going to draft for next year, we're going to draft for the next 5-10 years.

WelcomeBack
10-23-2006, 12:39 PM
you're not going to rebuild this team overnight. obviously our most pressing need is o-line, but if calvin johnson is there, we HAVE to take him. we can address the line in later rounds, free agency, or try out the young guys we have now (alabi and toledo), AND in future drafts.

you're right, rookie WR's rarely have great years, but we're not going to draft for next year, we're going to draft for the next 5-10 years.

True. Although in my mocks, I know the players are good for depth as well (with the exception of a few that could start right away).

fins4o8
10-23-2006, 02:31 PM
you're not going to rebuild this team overnight. obviously our most pressing need is o-line, but if calvin johnson is there, we HAVE to take him. we can address the line in later rounds, free agency, or try out the young guys we have now (alabi and toledo), AND in future drafts.

you're right, rookie WR's rarely have great years, but we're not going to draft for next year, we're going to draft for the next 5-10 years.

:yeahthat:

SpencerFS
10-23-2006, 03:57 PM
the second one is amazing CJ is the man and i like troy smith alot

jim1
10-23-2006, 04:36 PM
I like the Brian Smith pick, and I would be happy with Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson.

Silverphin
10-23-2006, 05:22 PM
Keep in mind, these are my opinions :). You may suggest a better pick.

I believe we will be picking either 2nd or 3rd.

1st Round: Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin - Joe Thomas is a solid LT that can be the foundation of the O-Line. He's got good quickness and footwork for a man his size (6'8" 315lbs.).

2nd Round: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona - I may be a little too optimistic here, but I think Cason may fall. It seems his playing speed is much quicker than his timed speed. He's good in coverage and can definitely push to start right away.

3rd Round: Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri - A good option at OLB to take over where Spragan is right now. Spragan hasn't been what we needed and it seems like only Zach Thomas and Channing Crowder are the only reliable options.

4th Round: Craig Davis, WR, L.S.U. - Not exactly a #1 WR, but I think he can contribute. There's some good WR's in free agency that I feel we make a run for and possibly come back next year with some that can actually catch.

5th Round: To Detroit for Joey Harrington (6th becomes 5th due to extended play)

6th Round: Le'Ron McClain, FB, Alabama - Face it, we made a mistake letting Beasley go. Here's our chance to get a solid blocker for Ronnie Brown, and someone that can catch out of the backfield.

7th Round: BPA

Constructive critism is accepted. Anything you would change? Any options for the 7th Round?



Another mock -

Miami Dolphins trade Randy McMichael for an early 3rd Rounder.

1st Round: Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech - A big time playmaker. CJ can be a threat on every play and has a great mix of size and speed.

2nd Round: Arron Sears, OT, Tennessee - A big bruiser at LT. Not as tall as Joe Thomas and not as fluid, but very solid off the snap.

3rd Round(a): Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri - See above.

3rd Round(b): Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State - Daunte's injury seems to be worse than we expected and Joey Harrington is NOT the answer. Even though he is shorter than most pro QB's, Smith is a gamer.

4th Round: Jonathan Wade, CB, Tennessee - Another SEC guy. Wade has a good mix of size and speed. Good tackler and OK in coverage.

5th Round - 7th Round: Same as above

I have to argue with you. On some things.



4th Round: Craig Davis, WR, L.S.U. - Not exactly a #1 WR, but I think he can contribute. There's some good WR's in free agency that I feel we make a run for and possibly come back next year with some that can actually catch.


Interesting. But I think if we draft a WR, it will be Calvin Johnson (not at this round, of course). But if not, then Marcus Vick and Fred Gibson will get looks in the offseason/pre-season.



6th Round: Le'Ron McClain, FB, Alabama - Face it, we made a mistake letting Beasley go. Here's our chance to get a solid blocker for Ronnie Brown, and someone that can catch out of the backfield.


Thing is, Darian Barnes is a great blocker. But as much as a great blocker Darian Barnes is, he's not an offensive linesman. And the thing is, even though he dropped that one catxh, I think that is the first time he was thrown to all year. Whether he caught it or not, he shouldn't be judged on that one play, especially if that's the first time he was utilized as a catcher.

WelcomeBack
10-23-2006, 05:29 PM
I have to argue with you. On some things.



Interesting. But I think if we draft a WR, it will be Calvin Johnson (not at this round, of course). But if not, then Marcus Vick and Fred Gibson will get looks in the offseason/pre-season.

That's why I had Calvin Johnson in the second mock. The reason I picked Davis was simple. Nick loves his LSU players. He's not an amazing receiver, but he could contribute.



Thing is, Darian Barnes is a great blocker. But as much as a great blocker Darian Barnes is, he's not an offensive linesman. And the thing is, even though he dropped that one catxh, I think that is the first time he was thrown to all year. Whether he caught it or not, he shouldn't be judged on that one play, especially if that's the first time he was utilized as a catcher.

Darian Barnes is not bad, but he's developing too late. He's going to be 27 shortly after this season, and he hasn't become what we need him to. Le'Ron McClain provides a young (22) FB that can be groomed from Day 1 to be what we need him to be. A dominant blocker and catcher.

23Dolphins34
10-23-2006, 09:34 PM
Right now, with our SOS, we have the #1 pick. If Miami at the end of the year and still has the #1 pick, no doubt you pick Calvin Johnson. IMO, he and Adrian Peterson are the only 2 difference makers in the 2007 draft. Since RB is not a pressing need, as of now, then you take CJ. Personally, I would hope for Joe Thomas, but you just can't pass on CJ.

dwalsh
10-23-2006, 09:50 PM
Not a chance Troy Smith is available in the 4th round....

WelcomeBack
10-23-2006, 09:58 PM
Not a chance Troy Smith is available in the 4th round....

Good, because I have him in the 3rd :D

ZachTaylor
10-23-2006, 10:48 PM
Love the Thomas pick, I think that would fit in nicely, we dont need another immoble pass-blocking only offensive lineman.

-ZachTaylor

lynchmobb34
10-24-2006, 06:40 AM
Right now, with our SOS, we have the #1 pick. If Miami at the end of the year and still has the #1 pick, no doubt you pick Calvin Johnson. IMO, he and Adrian Peterson are the only 2 difference makers in the 2007 draft. Since RB is not a pressing need, as of now, then you take CJ. Personally, I would hope for Joe Thomas, but you just can't pass on CJ.


If we end up with the 1st pick,and keep the 1st pick,then we take Quinn.You just dont pass on a Franchise QB no matter who you have already.If we end up with the 1st pick and decide not to go in that direction,then we trade down,and try to aquire as many picks as possible.Dont get me wrong,i would love to have CJ,or Thomas,but not at the price of a 1st overall pick.This team needs more than a few players,and considering the age of our core players,it needs an injection of youth.

BringBackShula
10-25-2006, 04:40 PM
Love the Thomas pick, I think that would fit in nicely, we dont need another immoble pass-blocking only offensive lineman.

-ZachTaylor

Ya but were weak especially on the interior of the line. QB is the number one priority. We need to strengthen the guards much more than the tackles

miami234ever
10-25-2006, 05:49 PM
Keep in mind, these are my opinions :). You may suggest a better pick.

I believe we will be picking either 2nd or 3rd.

1st Round: Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin - Joe Thomas is a solid LT that can be the foundation of the O-Line. He's got good quickness and footwork for a man his size (6'8" 315lbs.).

2nd Round: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona - I may be a little too optimistic here, but I think Cason may fall. It seems his playing speed is much quicker than his timed speed. He's good in coverage and can definitely push to start right away.

3rd Round: Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri - A good option at OLB to take over where Spragan is right now. Spragan hasn't been what we needed and it seems like only Zach Thomas and Channing Crowder are the only reliable options.

4th Round: Craig Davis, WR, L.S.U. - Not exactly a #1 WR, but I think he can contribute. There's some good WR's in free agency that I feel we make a run for and possibly come back next year with some that can actually catch.

5th Round: To Detroit for Joey Harrington (6th becomes 5th due to extended play)

6th Round: Le'Ron McClain, FB, Alabama - Face it, we made a mistake letting Beasley go. Here's our chance to get a solid blocker for Ronnie Brown, and someone that can catch out of the backfield.

7th Round: BPA

Constructive critism is accepted. Anything you would change? Any options for the 7th Round?



Another mock -

Miami Dolphins trade Randy McMichael for an early 3rd Rounder.

1st Round: Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech - A big time playmaker. CJ can be a threat on every play and has a great mix of size and speed.

2nd Round: Arron Sears, OT, Tennessee - A big bruiser at LT. Not as tall as Joe Thomas and not as fluid, but very solid off the snap.

3rd Round(a): Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri - See above.

3rd Round(b): Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State - Daunte's injury seems to be worse than we expected and Joey Harrington is NOT the answer. Even though he is shorter than most pro QB's, Smith is a gamer.

4th Round: Jonathan Wade, CB, Tennessee - Another SEC guy. Wade has a good mix of size and speed. Good tackler and OK in coverage.

5th Round - 7th Round: Same as above

I like your first mock draft a lot. Do you think Earl Everett (Florida) could slip to the 3rd round? I just think Smith is too slow. We need to add speed to our linebacking core. I would say swap 2nd and 3rd rounds and pick up a CB in the 3rd and Everett in the 2nd. I think in the 2nd mock, 3b should definately be used on a corner. Nice job overall man.

columbuslarry
10-26-2006, 01:41 PM
Both would be fine with me like the second one better. Troy smith to be a QB down the road. Maybe you should be Nicks' GM.

WelcomeBack
10-26-2006, 02:32 PM
Both would be fine with me like the second one better. Troy smith to be a QB down the road. Maybe you should be Nicks' GM.

LoL...I only do the mock. The chances that the players will be where I have them are slim to none. You have to usually wait for the combine, pro days, senior bowls, etc. to actually determine where players will go in the draft (it's just as hard after the workouts). I was just bored and made a mock based on where I felt players would go :).

Gardenhead
10-26-2006, 03:14 PM
Nobody's gonna give us a 3rd for McMike.

I agree that we'd be fools to pass on Calvin Johnson.

darrensls1
10-26-2006, 03:18 PM
If we end up with the 1st pick,and keep the 1st pick,then we take Quinn.You just dont pass on a Franchise QB no matter who you have already.

This is where I disagree. I don't think Quinn is going to be anything special. He hasn't proven that he can play well in the big games. I don't ever see his name being talked about in the company of names like John Elway, Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, ect.

But Calvin Johnson IMO will someday be mentioned in the same company with names like Randy Moss, TO, Jerry Rice, ect. I just can't see passing up a potential future hall of famer/pro bowl receiver for a quarterback that "might" never pan out or even make a single pro bowl selection.

That's JMO.

Gardenhead
10-26-2006, 03:22 PM
This is where I disagree. I don't think Quinn is going to be anything special. He hasn't proven that he can play well in the big games. I don't ever see his name being talked about in the company of names like John Elway, Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, ect.

But Calvin Johnson IMO will someday be mentioned in the same company with names like Randy Moss, TO, Jerry Rice, ect. I just can't see passing up a potential future hall of famer/pro bowl receiver for a quarterback that "might" never pan out or even make a single pro bowl selection.

That's JMO.

But its ALL about potential. Any top pick at any position can bust.

Stitches
10-26-2006, 03:28 PM
Nobody's gonna give us a 3rd for McMike.

I agree that we'd be fools to pass on Calvin Johnson.

Nor would we accept a 3rd for him.

darrensls1
10-26-2006, 05:16 PM
But its ALL about potential. Any top pick at any position can bust.

Anything can happen. Never say never. But I would be VERY surprised if CJ becomes anything less then one of the NFL's elite receivers. I love watching him play.

Nick13
10-26-2006, 07:32 PM
Keep in mind, these are my opinions :). You may suggest a better pick.

I believe we will be picking either 2nd or 3rd.

1st Round: Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin - Joe Thomas is a solid LT that can be the foundation of the O-Line. He's got good quickness and footwork for a man his size (6'8" 315lbs.).

2nd Round: Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona - I may be a little too optimistic here, but I think Cason may fall. It seems his playing speed is much quicker than his timed speed. He's good in coverage and can definitely push to start right away.

3rd Round: Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri - A good option at OLB to take over where Spragan is right now. Spragan hasn't been what we needed and it seems like only Zach Thomas and Channing Crowder are the only reliable options.

4th Round: Craig Davis, WR, L.S.U. - Not exactly a #1 WR, but I think he can contribute. There's some good WR's in free agency that I feel we make a run for and possibly come back next year with some that can actually catch.

5th Round: To Detroit for Joey Harrington (6th becomes 5th due to extended play)

6th Round: Le'Ron McClain, FB, Alabama - Face it, we made a mistake letting Beasley go. Here's our chance to get a solid blocker for Ronnie Brown, and someone that can catch out of the backfield.

7th Round: BPA

Constructive critism is accepted. Anything you would change? Any options for the 7th Round?



Another mock -

Miami Dolphins trade Randy McMichael for an early 3rd Rounder.

1st Round: Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech - A big time playmaker. CJ can be a threat on every play and has a great mix of size and speed.

2nd Round: Arron Sears, OT, Tennessee - A big bruiser at LT. Not as tall as Joe Thomas and not as fluid, but very solid off the snap.

3rd Round(a): Brian Smith, OLB, Missouri - See above.

3rd Round(b): Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State - Daunte's injury seems to be worse than we expected and Joey Harrington is NOT the answer. Even though he is shorter than most pro QB's, Smith is a gamer.

4th Round: Jonathan Wade, CB, Tennessee - Another SEC guy. Wade has a good mix of size and speed. Good tackler and OK in coverage.

5th Round - 7th Round: Same as above


love the first mock. if Antoine Cason fell to the second that would be the biggest break this franchise has caught in about a decade, i hope your right. and being at the U of A, and having seen Antoine play in person, his game speed is MUCH better than his timed speed, the guy is all over the place. he'd start immediately for us. the only thing i'm troubled with is drafting a fullback, i feel that free agency is a better place to address that, i'd much rather see us draft a DE and that spot.

PhinSoldia
10-28-2006, 03:57 PM
love the first mock. if Antoine Cason fell to the second that would be the biggest break this franchise has caught in about a decade, i hope your right. and being at the U of A, and having seen Antoine play in person, his game speed is MUCH better than his timed speed, the guy is all over the place. he'd start immediately for us. the only thing i'm troubled with is drafting a fullback, i feel that free agency is a better place to address that, i'd much rather see us draft a DE and that spot.

well it being apparant that Allen will be playing Corner next season(Jason) we we will need to hit the drawing board with Saftey again...

Roman529
10-28-2006, 06:46 PM
Joe Thomas or CJ would be nice.....I watched Wisconsin today and Thomas was blocking guys out of the picture. They said he had a 3.5 GPA and was a great guy. I think we could use an OL before a receiver.