PDA

View Full Version : Athletics vs Academics



Ferretsquig
10-24-2006, 09:10 AM
As probably very few of you are aware of and less care about, John Bunting was fired as the head coach of the UNC football team:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2636052

Bunting ran a very clean program, graduated a high percentage of his players, and turned out his fair share of NFL players....naturally most of them LBs. But he won less than half his games, including a dismal mark of 1-6 this year, with the only win coming at a DIV-II school. The question is what is more important, a clean program where the kids actually attend classes and graduate, or one that wins games? Given the fact that UNC will generate revenue from its football team whether they win games or not, does it really matter? Is it worth it to cheat and have the miserable image associated with FSU, Miami, Colorado, USC etc....?

DonShula84
10-24-2006, 06:45 PM
You can have a clean program and still win more games than UNC did

Ferretsquig
10-25-2006, 08:07 AM
Mabey I don't really know. We had Brown who cheated an won here a decade ago but he took the money and his cheating to Texas. UNC hasn't been able to win without cheating in a generation. I don't know if its possible anymore.

NJFINSFAN1
10-25-2006, 08:11 AM
UNC is all about winning, just ask the swim coach who ran a top 20 program year in and year out, he was let go because they wanted to be a top 10 program.

I think academics is important, but again, the bottom line is the almighty dollar to a lot of these schools.

MikeO
10-26-2006, 01:21 PM
1) Fans dont' pay money and buy tickets to watch kids take a test and get good grades. They want to see winning football

2) LOTS of schools in this country have a winning football program and have kids that graduate and do well in the classroom. It's isn't a 1 or the other decision.

And UNC when it comes to football just wants a team that wins 6 game or so and goes to a bowl. It isn't like they demanded the coach win a national championship or even the ACC for crying out loud. Just get to a bowl game and bring in some extra $$$$$$

Ferretsquig
10-26-2006, 04:21 PM
Even with a losing program UNC sells out its stadium. Not only do they sell out but merchandise sales and the shared revenue from the new ACC make UNC football a very profitable franchise. It generates far more revenue than the basketball team.

And UNC's football fanbase is largely made up of alumni, and they do care about things like graduation rates and the quality of the players. Those things help mold the image of the school, a school that most Carolina alum are proud to have graduated from.

NJFINSFAN1
10-26-2006, 04:29 PM
Even with a losing program UNC sells out its stadium. Not only do they sell out but merchandise sales and the shared revenue from the new ACC make UNC football a very profitable franchise. It generates far more revenue than the basketball team.

And UNC's football fanbase is largely made up of alumni, and they do care about things like graduation rates and the quality of the players. Those things help mold the image of the school, a school that most Carolina alum are proud to have graduated from.

Yes, but they are also the ones screaming for peoples heads when they don't win or are not a top 10 program.