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BAMAPHIN 22
10-25-2006, 10:38 PM
David Stern understands having a gun to protect your home. He’s not convinced carrying one on the streets makes you any safer.

For that reason, the NBA commissioner said Wednesday that he would prefer his players leave their firearms behind when they go out.

“It’s a pretty, I think, widely accepted statistic that if you carry a gun, your chances of being shot by one increase dramatically,” Stern said during his preseason conference call (http://www.srch-results.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=77&k=conference%20call). “We think this is an alarming subject, that although you’ll read players saying how they feel safer with guns, in fact those guns actually make them less safe. And it’s a real issue.”

It’s one that was raised recently when Indiana’s Stephen Jackson shot a gun in the air at least five times outside an Indianapolis strip club on Oct. 6. He originally told police he fired in self-defense (http://www.srch-results.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=77&k=self%20defense) during a fight in which he was hit by a car.

The NBA’s collective bargaining agreement allows players to own licensed guns, but they can’t carry them on any league or team business. Asked what kind of firearm rule he would want if collective bargaining weren’t involved, Stern said: “I would favor being able to have a firearm to protect your home. Period.”

He added that walking the streets carrying guns was “dangerous for our players,” but said there has been no further discussion with the union about strengthening the policy.

Union spokesman Dan Wasserman said it already was bolstered in last year’s agreement, at the request of the league.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15419993/

MikeO
10-25-2006, 11:39 PM
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

He actually had to come out and say this!!! ha ha ha ha

MoFinz
10-25-2006, 11:56 PM
Thats racist......

Rocky Raccoon
10-26-2006, 12:01 AM
Thats racist......

:confused: how?

305TillIDie
10-26-2006, 12:17 AM
if I was going somewhere where people are jealous of you and mo fos are out there trying to get me or harm me, ill have my protection too and I wouldnt give a damn what people say..I will protect myself..thats real

Ray Finkle
10-26-2006, 12:51 AM
:lol:

What's next? Don't do drugs? Don't rape women?

Thanks Captain Obvious.

MoFinz
10-26-2006, 09:01 AM
if I was going somewhere where people are jealous of you and mo fos are out there trying to get me or harm me, ill have my protection too and I wouldnt give a damn what people say..I will protect myself..thats real


this might partly explain basketballs declining popularity.....

maybe......

ya think..........

MikeO
10-26-2006, 09:27 AM
:lol:

What's next? Don't do drugs? Don't rape women?

Thanks Captain Obvious.


David Stern and the NBA are now officially a joke!

UCFinfan86
10-26-2006, 10:17 AM
David Stern and the NBA are now officially a joke!

Thats all you do is crack jokes at the NBA, we get it, you don't like the NBA. Yes they have alot of wanna be thugs or whatever, but i don't give a **** about stuff that goes on off the court, i love the NBA because basketball is fun and exciting, i don't care if these guys want to be idiots off the court or not.

FinsNYanksFan13
10-26-2006, 01:13 PM
Thats all you do is crack jokes at the NBA, we get it, you don't like the NBA. Yes they have alot of wanna be thugs or whatever, but i don't give a **** about stuff that goes on off the court, i love the NBA because basketball is fun and exciting, i don't care if these guys want to be idiots off the court or not.


That's fine and I'm right there with you on that but a lot of people aren't. You think older people white or black are going to want to buy their kids so and so's shoes and jersey's if they get in trouble with the law or carry guns? You and I are young, we don't have kids (I'm assuming you don't), we like rap music (and I'm assuming u listen to some), and we grew up around the hip hop culture so we're tolerant to it. A lot of adults in there 30's and up aren't privy to the hip hop culture except for what they read in magazines so their scared by it. I love the NBA for the game and I like you could care less what anyone does in their spare time. The problem is that older folks don't feel the same way whether their right or wrong and David Stern has to cater to these sets of fans because the hip hop culture are guranteed fans, they'll be there no matter what (at least for now they are, I'm sure times will change again). So and so in there 30's and above, working a 9-5 are the people David Stern has to cater to because he's losing those fans. He's gaining fans with the hip hop community so why cater to them when their coming whether homey gets caught with a gun or beats his wife?!

MikeO
10-26-2006, 01:15 PM
That's fine and I'm right there with you on that but a lot of people aren't. You think older people white or black are going to want to buy their kids so and so's shoes and jersey's if they get in trouble with the law or carry guns? You and I are young, we don't have kids (I'm assuming you don't), we like rap music (and I'm assuming u listen to some), and we grew up around the hip hop culture so we're tolerant to it. A lot of adults in there 30's and up aren't privy to the hip hop culture except for what they read in magazines so their scared by it. I love the NBA for the game and I like you could care less what anyone does in their spare time. The problem is that older folks don't feel the same way whether their right or wrong and David Stern has to cater to these sets of fans because the hip hop culture are guranteed fans, they'll be there no matter what (at least for now they are, I'm sure times will change again). So and so in there 30's and above, working a 9-5 are the people David Stern has to cater to because he's losing those fans. He's gaining fans with the hip hop community so why cater to them when their coming whether homey gets caught with a gun or beats his wife!

Bingo!!

UCFinfan86
10-26-2006, 01:18 PM
That's fine and I'm right there with you on that but a lot of people aren't. You think older people white or black are going to want to buy their kids so and so's shoes and jersey's if they get in trouble with the law or carry guns? You and I are young, we don't have kids (I'm assuming you don't), we like rap music (and I'm assuming u listen to some), and we grew up around the hip hop culture so we're tolerant to it. A lot of adults in there 30's and up aren't privy to the hip hop culture except for what they read in magazines so their scared by it. I love the NBA for the game and I like you could care less what anyone does in their spare time. The problem is that older folks don't feel the same way whether their right or wrong and David Stern has to cater to these sets of fans because the hip hop culture are guranteed fans, they'll be there no matter what (at least for now they are, I'm sure times will change again). So and so in there 30's and above, working a 9-5 are the people David Stern has to cater to because he's losing those fans. He's gaining fans with the hip hop community so why cater to them when their coming whether homey gets caught with a gun or beats his wife!

I understand that, but every sport is flawed. NBA has want to be thugs running around the street, but MLB has about 75+% of their players cheating taking illegal substances or what not.

You may say its comparing apples to oranges, but i just feel saying NBA is crap because of what people do in their spare times isn't right.

FinsNYanksFan13
10-26-2006, 01:25 PM
I understand that, but every sport is flawed. NBA has want to be thugs running around the street, but MLB has about 75+% of their players cheating taking illegal substances or what not.

You may say its comparing apples to oranges, but i just feel saying NBA is crap because of what people do in their spare times isn't right.


I agree I don't think it's crap either but we only speak for ourselves, not everybody so you have to respect those who don't want to bring their kids to a game because of what these guys do in their spare time!

MoFinz
10-26-2006, 01:52 PM
I agree I don't think it's crap either but we only speak for ourselves, not everybody so you have to respect those who don't want to bring their kids to a game because of what these guys do in their spare time!



Actually, the NBA isnt even that great right now. Have you noticed how the rest of the world has caught and passed us? It's nowhere near a team game, fundamentals have been thrown out for individual achievemnet and monster dunks.

I enjoy basketball, but mostly only watch NCAA and high school....although you can see how the change in the NBA game has filtered down there now.....

FinsNYanksFan13
10-26-2006, 02:00 PM
Actually, the NBA isnt even that great right now. Have you noticed how the rest of the world has caught and passed us? It's nowhere near a team game, fundamentals have been thrown out for individual achievemnet and monster dunks.

I enjoy basketball, but mostly only watch NCAA and high school....although you can see how the change in the NBA game has filtered down there now.....



I wasn't saying the NBA was at it's peak but I don't think it's crap, that was what I was trying to get at. I still enjoy the sport and watch it. It might not be peaking like I said but it's not crap. Plus with the young guys in this league coming into their own in the next couple of years, the NBA has a nice future IMO!

UCFinfan86
10-26-2006, 02:02 PM
Actually, the NBA isnt even that great right now. Have you noticed how the rest of the world has caught and passed us? It's nowhere near a team game, fundamentals have been thrown out for individual achievemnet and monster dunks.

I enjoy basketball, but mostly only watch NCAA and high school....although you can see how the change in the NBA game has filtered down there now.....

I can't stand watching high school games, there is no rhythm at all. I only enjoy watching the elite college teams that have real players. I like when the games have a good flow to them which the NBA has.

No one said the NBA had the greatest players. I enjoy watching top level basketball whether it be NBA or Europeans. But also i wouldn't say the Europeans are better at basketball, they are better at their game, which has quite a few different rules. It's pretty much like asking our NFL players to go compete in a rugby game.

Roman529
10-26-2006, 03:12 PM
I guess NBA players won't be allowed to go out duck hunting anymore...that is discriminatory!!!!!!

:D

MoFinz
10-26-2006, 04:14 PM
I can't stand watching high school games, there is no rhythm at all. I only enjoy watching the elite college teams that have real players. I like when the games have a good flow to them which the NBA has.

No one said the NBA had the greatest players. I enjoy watching top level basketball whether it be NBA or Europeans. But also i wouldn't say the Europeans are better at basketball, they are better at their game, which has quite a few different rules. It's pretty much like asking our NFL players to go compete in a rugby game.


Really? So is that why they now beat our brains in when we play internationally? Or why the European players are drafted so highly now, and why they are becoming so much more popular here?

Sorry man, the pro game just doesnt do it for me. I like to watch a game where the players are fundamentally sound and play like a team. The same thing can be said for a lot of MLB.....Lord knows i can count on one hand the number of guys who really know how to bunt, much less do so willingly.

UCFinfan86
10-26-2006, 11:23 PM
Really? So is that why they now beat our brains in when we play internationally? Or why the European players are drafted so highly now, and why they are becoming so much more popular here?

Sorry man, the pro game just doesnt do it for me. I like to watch a game where the players are fundamentally sound and play like a team. The same thing can be said for a lot of MLB.....Lord knows i can count on one hand the number of guys who really know how to bunt, much less do so willingly.

Um how many europeans over here do anything but shoot really? There is no slasher european players besides like manu. There game is all about shooting, ours isn't. And the european rules help outside shooting more then slashing

Roman529
10-27-2006, 05:59 PM
Um how many europeans over here do anything but shoot really? There is no slasher european players besides like manu. There game is all about shooting, ours isn't. And the european rules help outside shooting more then slashing

Yeah but the European players are better team players....not like the one on one hotdogs here. The reason we lose to European teams is because they play team ball, while USA players don't.

Coral Reefer
10-27-2006, 06:27 PM
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

He actually had to come out and say this!!! ha ha ha ha

Funny but sad at the same time.
NBA though so it's not like it's surprising.