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Phinsome
10-26-2006, 11:19 AM
Ok, lets get something straight. I want Joe Thomas, but I have and open mind. So here is the question:

Is Brady Quinn really THAT good? Is he a Carson Palmer, Manning, Brady type, or is he a lot of hype?

How big is he and what are his physical strengths like?

Can he run? Does he have a rocket arm?

Because, if we can get a tackle in free agency, a linebacker in free agency, and maybe another reciever to calm the Calvin Johnson people, maybe a young QB is the right move, but I know nothing about Quinn, someone enlighten me. I'm gonna go hit Google now.
:dolphins:

Phinsome
10-26-2006, 11:23 AM
ok, sounds pretty good

http://und.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/quinn_brady00.html

dlphns8405
10-26-2006, 11:31 AM
Ok, lets get something straight. I want Joe Thomas, but I have and open mind. So here is the question:

Is Brady Quinn really THAT good? Is he a Carson Palmer, Manning, Brady type, or is he a lot of hype?

How big is he and what are his physical strengths like?

Can he run? Does he have a rocket arm?

Because, if we can get a tackle in free agency, a linebacker in free agency, and maybe another reciever to calm the Calvin Johnson people, maybe a young QB is the right move, but I know nothing about Quinn, someone enlighten me. I'm gonna go hit Google now.
:dolphins:

Brady Quinn = Carson Palmer!!!!!!!

Phinsome
10-26-2006, 11:34 AM
URL="http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/brady_quinn.html"]http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/brady_quinn.html

Brady Quinn QB 6'4 231 Notre Dame

By: Robert Davis
Quinn became a starter during his true freshman season, and showed flashes of brilliance despite being held back by Tyrone Willingham’s offense. As a freshman, he threw for 1,831 yards, but had a completion percentage just over 47% and had a terrible TD/INT ratio of 9/15. He took that experience and improved as a sophomore, completing 54.1% of his passes, while throwing for 2,586 yards, and 17 touchdowns to 10 interceptions. Once Charlie Weis took over, Quinn’s brilliance emerged on a more consistent basis. He threw for a school record 3,633 yards and 32 touchdowns, while completing 64.9% of his passes with just seven interceptions.
Brady Quinn is the prototypical pocket passer. He has great size, along with the strength and willingness to sit in the pocket and deliver a strike. He has very good arm strength, and can make all the throws on the field. His accuracy has continued to improve every year, and he is on target on everything under 20 yards. Quinn is also a good athlete for a pocket passer, and he knows how to elude the rush and get the throw off. He has no problems producing under pressure, and his touchdown in the final two minutes of the USC game had Notre Dame in position to win, but the star studded USC offense stole the victory away. Picking something to criticize Quinn for is tough. He was very inconsistent his first two years, but once he was under the tutelage of Weis, he put it all together. He can try to force the ball into coverage still, and his mechanics break down at times, but those are things that could easily be corrected with another year under Weis.

Stitches
10-26-2006, 11:34 AM
We won't be drafting a QB in round one, unless we pick past #20, and Brohm or Quinn fall that far. Even then I thinkw e would look at other positions.

los305
10-26-2006, 11:48 AM
we aren't drafting a QB. We need to draft linemen, DE, or a corner.

DolphinzD
10-26-2006, 11:50 AM
I am a big Notre Dame fan and I've watched a lot of his games over the past few years. He is incredibly strong and has a great arm. I would be happy if the Dolphins got him, although that's a lot of high picks to use in a few years on quarterbacks (#2 in 2005, #2 in 2006, #1 in 2007). If the Dolphins were picking high enough to actually get him, you'd have to think their best interest would be to trade down and get more picks (although they didn't get any good offers to do that in the 2005 draft).

jham81
10-26-2006, 11:54 AM
As much as it sounds great to draft a young QB, there is no way saban would be able to justify it. If he did, he would be drafting a qb in the 1st (quinn), 2nd (traded for Daunte) and possibly 5th (harringtons pick can mature to that level if he receives i believe 30-35% of the snaps this yr). Also, I remember once hearing that Saban has the Parcels mentality where they dont like to take Offensive lineman with 1st rd picks, so it is safe to say that Saban will be taking a skill player with our top choice...whether it be WR (Calvin Johnson) or DE/OLB (Gaines Adams)

tyson22
10-26-2006, 12:00 PM
2nd (traded for Daunte)

that was last years, we have our 2nd round pick this year. but i do agree that we wont be drafting a QB.

JJW1339
10-26-2006, 12:01 PM
I think you have to take the best player available at the time, if Brady Q is there when they pick they should take him. Say they don't draft Brady and find out that DC is just not the same QB as he once was, where does that leave us, back to square 1.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
10-26-2006, 12:08 PM
quinn has it all...and is playing in a proven pro-style offense, to boot.

MiggeMadness
10-26-2006, 12:14 PM
i would love to finally draft a QB in the first round, maybe we can finally end this streak of bad QB's. I doubt that it happens though. It's our best chance to get a good QB in the draft and we'll screw it up.

I don't really care if we need to use another high draft pick. I would rather use it on a QB and finally have the problem out of the way then wait another 1 ,2, 3 more years and still not a have a good QB.

unless Harrington can show that he can do the job, then I think we should draft a QB. and Cpep is NOT the answer. I don't care about his mobility. even if he solves the mobility problem, that doesn't fix the fact that he is a moron and can't make a decision.

RoninFin4
10-26-2006, 12:18 PM
As long as we draft one of the players in UF Fin Kat's sig, I'll be happy. I'd rather take Thomas first, assuming DC is healthy, but if he isn't, how you can pass on Brady Quinn is beyond me.

Pocoloco
10-26-2006, 12:37 PM
I am a big fan of Quinn and would have no problem if we drafted him in the first. I think he'll be long gone by the time we pick, which I think will be somewhere between 4 and 8. Personally, I think Saban will pick Laron Landry in the first.

nuttie_buddie
10-26-2006, 12:50 PM
i cn him play too....pretty darn good....but i dont think we need him...r cap would b all qbs....no way....i would not mind if they got him(if we have the no.one pick u know that will happen) but not the area we need to fix(just yet)

columbuslarry
10-26-2006, 01:01 PM
Quinn has size, Good arm, played in a pro offense, has progressed every year, Can avoid a sack when he has to. I do see him miss open receivers on his long ball. If you you pressure him he makes mistakes ( watch the michigan game)

Stitches
10-26-2006, 01:10 PM
i would love to finally draft a QB in the first round, maybe we can finally end this streak of bad QB's. I doubt that it happens though. It's our best chance to get a good QB in the draft and we'll screw it up.

I don't really care if we need to use another high draft pick. I would rather use it on a QB and finally have the problem out of the way then wait another 1 ,2, 3 more years and still not a have a good QB.

unless Harrington can show that he can do the job, then I think we should draft a QB. and Cpep is NOT the answer. I don't care about his mobility. even if he solves the mobility problem, that doesn't fix the fact that he is a moron and can't make a decision.

Any QB we draft(or most teams for that matter), will not come in right away and light it up. It would easily be 1, 2, or 3 years before he settled into the position. Also, whether Culpepper is your answer or not doesn't really matter, because the coaching staff views him as the long term slution at that position. If we drafted a QB, it would be well after the 1st round.

MiggeMadness
10-26-2006, 02:17 PM
i know it will take a couple years before a QB would make an impact. as i said, i don't want to wait 3 years and still NOT have the problem solved. if we draft somebody, maybe we'll have the problem solved(in a couple years), if we don't, we'll likely continue down the same path we've been on since Marino left. no improvement 3 years from now.

Stitches
10-26-2006, 02:27 PM
i know it will take a couple years before a QB would make an impact. as i said, i don't want to wait 3 years and still NOT have the problem solved. if we draft somebody, maybe we'll have the problem solved(in a couple years), if we don't, we'll likely continue down the same path we've been on since Marino left. no improvement 3 years from now.

(I know UF Fin Kat will get me on this but) Using a high pick on a QB doesn't guarantee the problem will be solved. Culpepper has just as much a chance to be our long term(next 6 years+) solution to the QB position(like the current staff thinks he will be), as any rookie QB coming out. And Culpepper doesn't require another draft pick to retain him.

MiggeMadness
10-26-2006, 03:08 PM
of course not. anyways, if you think he's the solution, we had better had hope that either 1) our o line REALLY improves so he has a little more time to make a decision, 2) Cpep starts using his head more, because quick decisions are not his strong point, or 3) maybe we can talk defenses into letting up a little bit so daunte can take his time making the a decision.

I think the 3rd one might be the most likely...

don't get me wrong, I would LOVE for daunte or joey to work out. I don't hate them, I was actually happy when we got each of them. I'm just saying that, like most fans, I'm tired of not having a QB that can win us games. If daunte works out, or joey for that matter, then great. I just would hate to see us still clinging to nothing in 3 years.

what if we don't find somebody else and neither of them pan out? we wait until the 2008 draft and finally get somebody? then we have to wait a couple seasons before they 'light it up.' that's 2010 before we can expect a decent QB if daunte and joey don't work out. An entire DECADE after Marino's retirement. An entire decade without a good QB.

like i said, if one of them works out, then great. if they don't, how long do we need to give before we figure out they aren't the answer. 1 season isn't enough to judge QB's that have been in the league for 5 yrs or more? is 2 enough? or should we just keep both of them until their contracts are up, even if they don't show signs of improvment?

Stitches
10-26-2006, 03:18 PM
of course not. anyways, if you think he's the solution, we had better had hope that either 1) our o line REALLY improves so he has a little more time to make a decision, 2) Cpep starts using his head more, because quick decisions are not his strong point, or 3) maybe we can talk defenses into letting up a little bit so daunte can take his time making the a decision.

I think the 3rd one might be the most likely...

don't get me wrong, I would LOVE for daunte or joey to work out. I don't hate them, I was actually happy when we got each of them. I'm just saying that, like most fans, I'm tired of not having a QB that can win us games. If daunte works out, or joey for that matter, then great. I just would hate to see us still clinging to nothing in 3 years.

what if we don't find somebody else and neither of them pan out? we wait until the 2008 draft and finally get somebody? then we have to wait a couple seasons before they 'light it up.' that's 2010 before we can expect a decent QB if daunte and joey don't work out. An entire DECADE after Marino's retirement. An entire decade without a good QB.

like i said, if one of them works out, then great. if they don't, how long do we need to give before we figure out they aren't the answer. 1 season isn't enough to judge QB's that have been in the league for 5 yrs or more? is 2 enough? or should we just keep both of them until their contracts are up, even if they don't show signs of improvment?

I agree with you, especially 1) and 2). I was very excited with acquisition of both of them. and I am not contending that it would be valuable to draft a QB this draft(I love Brian Brohm and might nut myself if we got him), however this staff will not draft a QB this year because they view Daunte as a long term solution, and I am certainly willing to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point.

MiggeMadness
10-26-2006, 03:49 PM
I agree that we won't draft one. I said I would love if we did, but I also said i doubt it will happen.

but hey, at least we agree that duante has more problems than just mobility. some people think he will be great once he has his mobility back. yea, it will definitely be an improvent, but I don't think it will be enough. like i said, he has to be able to make a decision quicker. some of those sacks were ridiculous. on a few of those plays he had a bunch of time and there was NO reason he should have still had the ball.

Shula Come Back!
10-26-2006, 05:51 PM
Brady Quinn = Carson Palmer!!!!!!!

If bRady QUinn truly has the potential of Carsom Palmer, I'd say take a friggin' chance and take him.....but I don't know if he's that good...you know the deal....if we draft him, he'll be Ryan Leaf. But if somone else does, he'll be Dan Marino:confused:

primetime23
10-27-2006, 01:26 AM
Ok, lets get something straight. I want Joe Thomas, but I have and open mind. So here is the question:

Is Brady Quinn really THAT good? Is he a Carson Palmer, Manning, Brady type, or is he a lot of hype?

How big is he and what are his physical strengths like?

Can he run? Does he have a rocket arm?

Because, if we can get a tackle in free agency, a linebacker in free agency, and maybe another reciever to calm the Calvin Johnson people, maybe a young QB is the right move, but I know nothing about Quinn, someone enlighten me. I'm gonna go hit Google now.
:dolphins:

its way to early to tell there's only one way to know if he is ''that good'' and thats when he has afew years under his belt in the nfl

Phinsome
10-27-2006, 11:00 AM
I heard someone say in another thread that he has Rick Mirer written all over him and I think that that is probably very untrue. Like ts been said. Prostyle offense, strong arm, excellent accuracy within 20 yards and all the ND records.