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FLOUNDER
11-03-2006, 12:53 AM
I know the selection is a long ways away

But, if WVU wins out. Could they possibly play in a BCS bowl game, such as the orange bowl or something like that?

LouPhinFan
11-03-2006, 01:29 AM
I think its possible. It was going to be possible for U of L too, if they lost.

DonShula84
11-03-2006, 01:48 AM
I think they still get a BCS game if they win out

MikeO
11-03-2006, 02:51 AM
WV has a shot, but I don't see it to be honest

I only see them having a shot at the Fiesta Bowl. And I think the Fiesta Bowl will take Boise if they run the table and they will want a "sexier" team than WV to help sell that bowl.

Probably the Cal/USC loser who doesn't end up in the ROse Bowl. Just to make the game more regional to sell tickets

ZolarZ_GoPhins
11-03-2006, 07:42 AM
They have a shot but would have to play lights out for the last 4 games.

Right now you have 4 spots up for grabs after each BCS conference sends it champion. ND, Boise St, and a 2nd Big10 team have 3 locked up so far. That leaves one spot open for a 1 loss team from the other 5 BCS conferences. There would have to be a few upsets in the SEC and Pac10 for WVU to get the last spot IMO.

Best chance would be for UofL to lose to Rutgers and WVU beat Rutgers then be ranked the highest of any BigEast team to get the BCS Spot.

Other Scenario would be if ND drops another game and slides down the rankings or Boise loses.

Impossible no, but no likely at this point.

FLOUNDER
11-03-2006, 09:36 AM
If were ranked very high, maybe by the top 6 at the end of the year. There is no way we'll be denied a BCS game

Motion
11-03-2006, 09:37 AM
Possibly, but they would need some help IMO.

FLOUNDER
11-03-2006, 09:39 AM
But there are 4 at large bids.... who will get them

1. Notre Dame
2. Boise State
3. a one loss SEC team
4. us maybe??

Stitches
11-03-2006, 09:43 AM
But there are 4 at large bids.... who will get them

1. Notre Dame
2. Boise State
3. a one loss SEC team
4. us maybe??

I think Notre Dame will have to beat USC.

As for a one loss SEC team, the loser of the SEC championship game is going to have 2 losses. However, they would look like a much better pick than WV most likely because of thier opponents.

Motion
11-03-2006, 09:45 AM
But there are 4 at large bids.... who will get them

1. Notre Dame
2. Boise State
3. a one loss SEC team
4. us maybe??

All depends how the season plays out. Too early to tell. All bias aside we could see 3 SEC teams in the BCS if Florida, Auburn, and Tennessee win out.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
11-03-2006, 09:45 AM
boise state is the only at-large team that looks like a lock.

Motion
11-03-2006, 09:46 AM
I think Notre Dame will have to beat USC.

As for a one loss SEC team, the loser of the SEC championship game is going to have 2 losses. However, they would look like a much better pick than WV most likely because of thier opponents.

Plus, Auburn and Tennessee could finish the season with 1 loss and not even make the SEC Championship game.

Stitches
11-03-2006, 09:47 AM
Plus, Auburn and Tennessee could finish the season with 1 loss and not even make the SEC Championship game.

I didn't even remember that. I forgot about Arkansas(that is who would make it ahead of Auburn, right?)

Pennington's Rocket Arm
11-03-2006, 09:49 AM
yes, right now, arkansas is the leader of the SEC West.

NJFINSFAN1
11-03-2006, 09:58 AM
If were ranked very high, maybe by the top 6 at the end of the year. There is no way we'll be denied a BCS game

It goes by the BCS points, not ranking.

NJFINSFAN1
11-03-2006, 09:59 AM
boise state is the only at-large team that looks like a lock.

Only tough game left is Nevada, but Boise can't get enough BSC power points to make it in, only hope for them is a few teams above them have real bad loses against unranked teams.

Stitches
11-03-2006, 10:01 AM
Only tough game left is Nevada, but Boise can't get enough BSC power points to make it in, only hope for them is a few teams above them have real bad loses against unranked teams.

I don't think any of the teams above them have to lose bad to unranked teams, just losing in general might be enough.

NJFINSFAN1
11-03-2006, 10:06 AM
I don't think any of the teams above them have to lose bad to unranked teams, just losing in general might be enough.

Well say Michigan losses to Ohio St, they don't lose too many power points losing to a top ranked team. It really depends on who and when you lose.

Rutgers has the same problem, they are ranked 15, but people say who do the play? If they beat L'Ville and then WV, they get very good power points.

Boise does not play any powerfull teams to collect big points, so other teams can leap frog them.

Stitches
11-03-2006, 10:17 AM
Well say Michigan losses to Ohio St, they don't lose too many power points losing to a top ranked team. It really depends on who and when you lose.

Rutgers has the same problem, they are ranked 15, but people say who do the play? If they beat L'Ville and then WV, they get very good power points.

Boise does not play any powerfull teams to collect big points, so other teams can leap frog them.

I mean the teams who are 8-12 right now. Boise has no chance at unseating the 1-6 teams right now.

FLOUNDER
11-03-2006, 10:25 AM
so how good percentage chance would you give WVU of playing in a BCS bowl game if we win out?

NJFINSFAN1
11-03-2006, 10:28 AM
I mean the teams who are 8-12 right now. Boise has no chance at unseating the 1-6 teams right now.

I know what you mean, but look at the standings (figure WV will drop to around 6 or 7)

BCS Standings 1. Ohio State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=194) 2. Michigan (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=130) 3. West Virginia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=277) 4. Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=57) 5. Louisville (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=97) 6. Auburn (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2) 7. Texas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=251) 8. USC (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=30) 9. Notre Dame (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=87)10. California (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=25)11. Tennessee (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2633)12. Rutgers (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=164)13. Arkansas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=8)14. Boise State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=68)15. Boston College (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=103)16. Wisconsin (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=275)17. LSU (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=99)18. Oklahoma (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=201)19. Clemson (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=228)20. Georgia Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=59)21. Texas A&M (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=245)22. Oregon (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2483)23. Washington State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=265)24. Wake Forest (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=154)25. Virginia Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=259)

They need teams to lose, they can't get the power points on there own, so they have to have Rutgers lose twice to L'Ville and WV (One win will give them big points) and Arkansas, Tenn, Cali and the likes to lose.

Can they squeak in? Sure, but it won't be easy. I don't like the BSC system, but it is what it is.

Look at Rutgers, say they beat L'Ville and WV and go undeafeted, they still have no chance at the Championship game.

Stitches
11-03-2006, 10:28 AM
so how good percentage chance would you give WVU of playing in a BCS bowl game if we win out?

If you win out, I'd say 50%

Motion
11-03-2006, 10:29 AM
so how good percentage chance would you give WVU of playing in a BCS bowl game if we win out?

Ask us that Monday after the new polls are out and we see where they stand.

Stitches
11-03-2006, 10:30 AM
I know what you mean, but look at the standings (figure WV will drop to around 6 or 7)

BCS Standings 1. Ohio State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=194) 2. Michigan (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=130) 3. West Virginia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=277) 4. Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=57) 5. Louisville (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=97) 6. Auburn (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2) 7. Texas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=251) 8. USC (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=30) 9. Notre Dame (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=87)10. California (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=25)11. Tennessee (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2633)12. Rutgers (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=164)13. Arkansas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=8)14. Boise State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=68)15. Boston College (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=103)16. Wisconsin (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=275)17. LSU (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=99)18. Oklahoma (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=201)19. Clemson (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=228)20. Georgia Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=59)21. Texas A&M (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=245)22. Oregon (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2483)23. Washington State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=265)24. Wake Forest (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=154)25. Virginia Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=259)

They need teams to lose, they can't get the power points on there own, so they have to have Rutgers lose twice to L'Ville and WV (One win will give them big points) and Arkansas, Tenn, Cali and the likes to lose.

Can they squeak in? Sure, but it won't be easy. I don't like the BSC system, but it is what it is.

Look at Rutgers, say they beat L'Ville and WV and go undeafeted, they still have no chance at the Championship game.

I just want a 32 team playoff dangit! lol.

Oboy
11-03-2006, 10:33 AM
I don't think it is as easy to say IF WVU wins out they get in.

I think they are going to need some other teams to lose. So right now, I don't think you can put any kind of percentage on it. Still way too much football to be played. IT is still possible, but in all honesty, I don't see it. I think they needed to win the game last night to get a BCS bid. They really just don't have the resume of tough games. As of today they have only beat one team with a winning record and one with a .500 record. Yes they have Pitt and Rutgers, but if they beat them then that number only goes to 4 teams with .500 records or better and ONLY one top 25 win (at home). Sorry I just don't see it.

Motion
11-03-2006, 10:34 AM
I don't think it is as easy to say IF WVU wins out they get in.

I think they are going to need some other teams to lose. So right now, I don't think you can put any kind of percentage on it. Still way too much football to be played. IT is still possible, but in all honesty, I don't see it. I think they needed to win the game last night to get a BCS bid. They really just don't have the resume of tough games. As of today they have only beat one team with a winning record and one with a .500 record. Yes they have Pitt and Rutgers, but if they beat them then that number only goes to 4 teams with .500 records or better and ONLY one top 25 win (at home). Sorry I just don't see it.

I agree, I think they're gonna need some help.

Oboy
11-03-2006, 10:34 AM
I know what you mean, but look at the standings (figure WV will drop to around 6 or 7)

BCS Standings 1. Ohio State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=194) 2. Michigan (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=130) 3. West Virginia (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=277) 4. Florida (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=57) 5. Louisville (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=97) 6. Auburn (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2) 7. Texas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=251) 8. USC (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=30) 9. Notre Dame (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=87)10. California (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=25)11. Tennessee (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2633)12. Rutgers (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=164)13. Arkansas (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=8)14. Boise State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=68)15. Boston College (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=103)16. Wisconsin (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=275)17. LSU (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=99)18. Oklahoma (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=201)19. Clemson (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=228)20. Georgia Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=59)21. Texas A&M (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=245)22. Oregon (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2483)23. Washington State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=265)24. Wake Forest (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=154)25. Virginia Tech (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=259)

They need teams to lose, they can't get the power points on there own, so they have to have Rutgers lose twice to L'Ville and WV (One win will give them big points) and Arkansas, Tenn, Cali and the likes to lose.

Can they squeak in? Sure, but it won't be easy. I don't like the BSC system, but it is what it is.

Look at Rutgers, say they beat L'Ville and WV and go undeafeted, they still have no chance at the Championship game.
Why do you say that. UF lost to a #6 team and dropped from 2 to 9.

I think they drop to 9 or 10. MAYBE more.

MikeO
11-03-2006, 10:37 AM
I think both Cal and USC are going to BCS games. One to Rose bowl the other to Fiesta vs Boise

Motion
11-03-2006, 10:39 AM
Why do you say that. UF lost to a #6 team and dropped from 2 to 9.

I think they drop to 9 or 10. MAYBE more.

Yet again I agree. I definitely see them dropping down to 8-9 range if not more. I think Tennessee is better than WVU but I doubt they slide that far.

Motion
11-03-2006, 10:40 AM
I think both Cal and USC are going to BCS games. One to Rose bowl the other to Fiesta vs Boise

USC has alot of football left to play. I can easily see them with 3 losses at season's end.

MikeO
11-03-2006, 11:10 AM
USC has alot of football left to play. I can easily see them with 3 losses at season's end.

Then throw in Wisconsin. Send Cal to the Rose and put Wisconsin with 1 loss probably to the Fiesta. Or if Cal ends with only 1 or 2 lossses I think they end up in the Fiesta.

Bumpus
11-03-2006, 11:16 AM
I know the selection is a long ways away

But, if WVU wins out. Could they possibly play in a BCS bowl game, such as the orange bowl or something like that?
Wow ...

I like the optimism, but we were just undressed on national TV.

Are we good enough to play in a BCS bowl? Absolutely!

Will we get a chance now? I really don't know.

It comes down to:
-How far we fall (currently bracing myself)
-The fortunes of several other teams (factors beyond our control)
-If Rutgers beats Louisville, & we beat Rutgers, & are the highest ranked of the three (that would get us in, but now my head hurts)

finswin56
11-03-2006, 11:34 AM
I hope WVU doesn't end up in a BCS bowl.
I'm going to the Gator Bowl this year. It usually holds the 2nd place teams in the ACC against Big East. I'd love to see WVU. With the ACC having a down year, there's also a good change Notre Dame could end up in that game (they've been there twice in the past eight years.

MikeO
11-03-2006, 12:32 PM
I hope WVU doesn't end up in a BCS bowl.
I'm going to the Gator Bowl this year. It usually holds the 2nd place teams in the ACC against Big East. I'd love to see WVU. With the ACC having a down year, there's also a good change Notre Dame could end up in that game (they've been there twice in the past eight years.

Gator Bowl has switched.

its the ACC vs the Big 12/Big East or ND

You may not get a Big East team this year. You might get stuck with the #3 Big 12 team

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/07/14/bc.fbc.lgns.bowlpartnership.r/index.html

finswin56
11-03-2006, 12:41 PM
Gator Bowl has switched.

its the ACC vs the Big 12/Big East or ND

You may not get a Big East team this year. You might get stuck with the #3 Big 12 team

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/07/14/bc.fbc.lgns.bowlpartnership.r/index.html
Thanks for the article. Hopefully they pick WV. That would be a far more intriguing team than whoever ends up 3rd in the Big12, at least for me.

MikeO
11-03-2006, 12:45 PM
Thanks for the article. Hopefully they pick WV. That would be a far more intriguing team than whoever ends up 3rd in the Big12, at least for me.

Could get WV vs Clemson, Wake, GT or BC

finswin56
11-03-2006, 01:09 PM
Could get WV vs Clemson, Wake, GT or BCClemson or GT against WV would be awesome!

Pennington's Rocket Arm
11-03-2006, 01:10 PM
i want wake to win the ACC. :yes:

MikeO
11-03-2006, 01:56 PM
Clemson or GT against WV would be awesome!

The best game TV wise is BC vs WV. Obvious storylines there and so on.

But I think BC might win the conference and end up in the BCS bowls. After that I think Clemson-WV is the next best match-up

finswin56
11-03-2006, 02:15 PM
The best game TV wise is BC vs WV. Obvious storylines there and so on.

But I think BC might win the conference and end up in the BCS bowls. After that I think Clemson-WV is the next best match-upTrue. I only listed GT so that I could see Calvin Johnson in person.

HysterikiLL
11-03-2006, 07:01 PM
BCS still and always will confuse the hell out of me, but with 4 at-large bids, I could see the loser of Michigan/OSU sitting more favorably then WVU. I think WVU deserves it...I just don't like the BCS format in general

Coral Reefer
11-04-2006, 02:54 AM
I know the selection is a long ways away

But, if WVU wins out. Could they possibly play in a BCS bowl game, such as the orange bowl or something like that?

One overrated team down that we don't have to hear about anymore.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
11-04-2006, 10:19 AM
One overrated team down that we don't have to hear about anymore.
not true. if they win out, they're pretty much guaranteed to finish in the top 10 of the BCS.

FLOUNDER
11-05-2006, 10:53 PM
and hopefully that would put us in a BCS bowl game


Tell me how we get beat by a #5 team and drop to 10th, and USC loses to an UNRANKED team and drops to the same place?

DonShula84
11-06-2006, 12:01 AM
and hopefully that would put us in a BCS bowl game


Tell me how we get beat by a #5 team and drop to 10th, and USC loses to an UNRANKED team and drops to the same place?

USC didnt lose as badly as you guys did but more importantly people just dont believe in WVU because of the schedule. I thought USC would drop further than they did tbh but voters believe in them based on what they did in the past partially.

Oboy
11-06-2006, 09:43 AM
USC didnt lose as badly as you guys did but more importantly people just dont believe in WVU because of the schedule. I thought USC would drop further than they did tbh but voters believe in them based on what they did in the past partially.
BINGO. The first real team WV played, beat them. I mean seriously you have only beaten one team with a winning record.

IF you remember Florida dropped that far when they lost to Auburn too! Which if you try to compare the two, is just amazing if you ask me. UF beat some real good teams.