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FinHeavenAJ
05-11-2003, 03:09 PM
First, let me explain why these boards exist. The FinHeaven & Co Forums were created to bring a place for fans to sit back, relax, and talk about Dolphins football. In the first year of existence, this really wasn't a problem as there was under 1,000 members. However, the boards are obviously growing, and this is seemingly becoming more difficult. Instead of members being able to relax, some members have to be on guard for personal attacks or veiled insults.

As time has been going on, the moderation has been someone lenient. However, due to events that have recently passed, we are forced to tighten up and make these forums enjoyable, once again for all members.

So, please keep the following in mind:

* We honestly don't care about what happened on other message boards. If you don't like another member from a different forum, and that member were to post here, and you were to insult that member FIRST on these forums, then you are held responsible and will be warned, and possibly banned. Once again, private wars will NOT take place on FinHeaven. We do not care who started what on another board, nor do we care what happens off this board, who is banned where, or who moderates what. Our primary concern is FinHeaven & Co. These are not the forums to be talking about the past, and bringing up past arguments that happened on other boards.

* Any personal attacks will be taken seriously, unless the member being attacked takes it lightly and jokingly.

* There will be no "message board war." We realize that there is some "rough terrain" between Dolphins Digest, the Palm Beach Post, Dolfan Talk, or anybody else. However, as the name implies, this is the Finheaven & Co Forums.

For those that need a reminder, here are the warnings:
First offense will be a warning.
Second offense will be a week ban.
Third offense will be a permanent ban.

Listen people, we are taking this seriously. We aren't going to allow personal insults fly, these boards were created for Dolphin fans to talk about Dolphins football, not about somebody else's mother.

If you don't like these rules, tough. If you have someone that you simply can not ignore and must insult them, use emails or simply use the ignore feature on these message boards... or try growing up.

Finally, I just wanted to let ALL the members know that I personally back ALL of the staff members. Each and every one of them has gained my respect and trust. However they choose to handle a situation is up to them, and I respect whatever they choose. If a staff member has decided to ban a member, I will not go around their backs and unban that member unless he or she can prove that they are worth being unbanned, and, in addition, it will be brought to a staff vote.

Lastly, just remember... attack the post, not the poster.

If you have any questions, please let any of us know.

Sincerely,
FinHeaven & Co Staff

Ohiophinphan
05-11-2003, 04:44 PM
Good, I hope you and the rest of the moderators, etc. do just that! A well moderated board is why I'm here. Thank you, thank you very much.

My wife is recoveering from a serious illness and Dolphin football is one of my favorite diversions. Slamming folks is too much like real life and that's what I come here to avoid.

Keep up the good, no make that great work!!!!!

jetssuckSr
05-11-2003, 04:53 PM
However there is a paragraph that is not true and out of fairness should either be eliminated or corrected.


* There will be no "message board war." We realize that there is some "rough terrain" between Dolphins Digest, the Palm Beach Post, or anybody else. However, as the name implies, this is the Finheaven & Co Forums.

This gives the impression that there is a problem between DD and PPB, I am originally from the PBP and that's not the case. There is a problem between these two boards and another board and if that board is exempt from mention I don't see why these two boards were mentioned by name. This may be a mistake, I just brought it up because I don't think it's fair.



Thanks

JS

Muck
05-11-2003, 04:55 PM
I think it's funny that a guy from "Defiance" is the first person to post in support of "the man". :lol: j/k.

Ohiophinphan
05-11-2003, 05:01 PM
Its a great place to live not a state of mind;) :biggrin:

WharfRat
05-11-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by jetssuckSr
However there is a paragraph that is not true and out of fairness should either be eliminated or corrected.



This gives the impression that there is a problem between DD and PPB, I am originally from the PBP and that's not the case. There is a problem between these two boards and another board and if that board is exempt from mention I don't see why these two boards were mentioned by name. This may be a mistake, I just brought it up because I don't think it's fair.



Thanks

JS

Rest assurred JSS... it was a mistake, and only goes to prove that it is unimportant to us what happens on other boards. Which is why AJ stated "or anybody else" because we neither know, nor care what other boards are involved.... again...this is FinHeaven & Co. our sole concern. Thank you, however, for the clarification.


Jon

fin-atic
05-11-2003, 05:13 PM
Well said Mods. I think that this is one of the best forums for any team. I have been on the cutting edge in some of my opinions about the teams needs and decisions, but never take it to a personal level. I applaud your efforts to keep the quality environment you have established.

Lets hope 2003 brings us so much success that everyone can enjoy the success together.

Peace and go Dolphins!

SuavePhin
05-11-2003, 05:49 PM
*closes eyes and thinks of a happy place, a happy place :) :) :)* (hey i watched Happy Gilmore last night work with me here :lol:)

Prime Time
05-11-2003, 07:18 PM
I think this will solve alot of problems...but I never got a warning before my one week ban, so what's up...next time (hopefully will never happen) will I just be banend for good or get a warning, because I do not recall receiving one...I may be wrong though.

MNFINFAN
05-11-2003, 11:19 PM
Mods, I hope that you do follow through, I came here towards the end of last year, I found a haven as I had been on the Herald board and that was just one personal attack after another, this board was heaven, but since the end of the year there has been a lot of bitterness and the quality of this site has IMO gone down considerably. It needs to be moderated, we need to understand other people's opinion and we need to understand that people will disagree with our opinion.

Where I am originally from the Natinal Motto is "Out of many, One People" and that is what we are here, many different people, races, nationalities but we all have one love, the greatest team of all, So lets respect each other as we are obviously bright people, unlike the yahoos that support the Jets!

Clumpy
05-11-2003, 11:35 PM
Catherine Bell is delicious :tongue:


You won't git no troubles from me boss :)

ckparrothead
05-12-2003, 11:39 AM
I'm just wondering what this is in response to. I've been kinda busy recently.

MarinoFan
05-12-2003, 01:24 PM
:pope: I'll be good I promise ;)

LeftCoastPhin
05-12-2003, 01:45 PM
Good post AJ. Props to you for not allowing this site to deterriorate to the likes of ESPN, etc.

For my part, I have made one major mistake on here and kind of whined about being 'disciplined' It was just one of those days.

However, my post was unacceptable and my apologies again go out to Clump, Aqua, and the board in general.

Sometimes rebelling is cool, and sometimes necessary but rules exist for a reason. In this case, it is for the good reasons AJ mentioned. I 'conform' to those rules, and IMO it is foolish not to.


Peace!

MarinoFan
05-12-2003, 01:49 PM
Can I make one suggestion though? I have noticed there are just a handful of rival fans that come and post something, just to try and get that type of reaction from all of us. Albeit we should keep to ourselves, but don't you think it's wise to keep those "outsiders" on a shorter leash than the locals?

LeftCoastPhin
05-12-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by MarinoFan
Can I make one suggestion though? I have noticed there are just a handful of rival fans that come and post something, just to try and get that type of reaction from all of us. Albeit we should keep to ourselves, but don't you think it's wise to keep those "outsiders" on a shorter leash than the locals?



I hear you on that one, and sometimes I'm guilty of stepping in that trap because I'm either bored, in the mood to argue, or just plain tired of it and feel like responding.

But, if it is obviously a post to get us riled up, why bother? Why give them the satisfaction and attention? So they are proving they like to argue more or like to start crap more? Good for them, they can win 1st prize in that contest for all I care.

Also, I am more strict of personal attacks because you dont know the condition of the other person online. It could be a tough time in their life and maybe this is their escape. I should have said unprovoked personal attacks, i.e. 'starting it'

That is just me though, I can accept posters making personal attacks on other posters if they didnt' start it, but even then, why bother? That is just my opinion, I believe the rule states no personal attacks, period. It's a good rule.

MarinoFan
05-12-2003, 01:59 PM
Agreed, no personal attacks. My suggestion was more towards the instigators.

FinHeavenAJ
05-12-2003, 02:03 PM
MarinoFan, we try to look out for these types of people, and if their first few posts are just that, then they are banned... :cool:

LeftCoastPhin
05-12-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by MarinoFan
Agreed, no personal attacks. My suggestion was more towards the instigators.


Right, I just added that becaue it was on my mind.

Since there are strict rules on respecting members, IMO, there should be the same system for obvious mindless drivel i.e. starting crap constantly where thats all you have to contribute while at the same time not punishishing those who just like to have a good time talkin a little smack and offering other insight.

Da 'Fins
05-12-2003, 02:17 PM
For MNFINFAN ... Same here ... Catherine Bell Rules! I'm speechless about some of her pics!

MarinoFan
05-12-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by FinHeavenAJ
MarinoFan, we try to look out for these types of people, and if their first few posts are just that, then they are banned... :cool:

Thanks AJ, good to know you guys look out for us little people. :goof:

inFINSible
05-12-2003, 02:41 PM
personally I allow a little bit of smack from rival fans on the main board simply because if we didn't, I'm afraid we would end up banning everyone of them and that wouldn't be any good.....If the thread turns into ALL smack or if things turn nasty, then I will step in or we just move it to the smack forum.....If any particular fan does nothing BUT smack on the main boards then that's different and action will be taken against that poster.

I don't want to single any one out but, I would like to use tatonka as an example......Most of his posts are football related and he makes good points, but occasionally he'll throw a jab in the mix also. I don't think that this should be cause for discipline unless it's a personal attack on another poster....if we were to discipline him for an occasional taunt on the main board then we would have to discipline our own fans whenever they used a " ______ suck!" smiley on the main board....you see my point?

MarinoFan
05-12-2003, 03:18 PM
Totally agreed. I am talking about the guys that register under some BS name like BILLS4EVER (this name is intended to be fictional and in no way to point someone out) or something like that and jump in every thread to post garbage.;)

inFINSible
05-12-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by MarinoFan
Totally agreed. I am talking about the guys that register under some BS name like BILLS4EVER (this name is intended to be fictional and in no way to point someone out) or something like that and jump in every thread to post garbage.;) I wasn't so much responding to you as I was just stating my stance on this so everyone knows where I'm coming from and what to expect from me.:D ....I agree that some occasionally are here to do nothing but start trouble and like AJ said, we cull them rather quickly.

LeftCoastPhin
05-12-2003, 04:41 PM
Like that one guy's name that said fukmiami? lol, I think you brought it to attention Infins and I believe he was banned.

inFINSible
05-12-2003, 04:57 PM
Can you believe that somebody coming here to cause trouble would pick such a blatantly obvious screen name to work through?? I mean come on.....it's like walking into the bank with your ski mask already covering your face and your gun in your hand......"duh, I wonder what he's going to do?"......The good thing I guess is that the more stupid they are, the easier they are to catch.:biggrin:

dolphan39
05-12-2003, 05:04 PM
there is a difference between smack and personal attacks. The former s/b moved to the smack forum, but the latter is unacceptable. Though I have never personally banned anyone - not sure if that is a good or bad thing - I feel AJ has enpowered us Mods/Mentors and Wharf to do so if someone is out of control. Great post AJ / boss :D

MNFINFAN
05-12-2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Da 'Fins
For MNFINFAN ... Same here ... Catherine Bell Rules! I'm speechless about some of her pics!

:jawdrop: Catherine Bell has some of the finest non pornographic pictures on the web. I cannot believe it is the same woman that appears on JAG, she is so frumpy on the episodes I have seen and then I saw her here on another posters sig and avatar and wow! :hump: I think my pic of her does show her assets rather well!

Sorry for the off topic reply Mods and Mentors!

burghPhinFan
05-12-2003, 09:31 PM
sounds good. sorry about the quip in that last thread I started, first time I ever did that, but I felt it was necessary. or maybe I was just cranky that day.:(

RUDEbyallMEANS
05-14-2003, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by FinHeavenAJ
We aren't going to allow personal insults fly, these boards were created for Dolphin fans to talk about Dolphins football, not about somebody else's mother.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Some people do need to grow up.. Very well said AJ..

HOORAH:drinker: <~~This is to all the Mods who keep this Forum running.. :up:

baccarat
05-14-2003, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by FinHeavenAJ
MarinoFan, we try to look out for these types of people, and if their first few posts are just that, then they are banned... :cool:


:eek: Crap, they're on to me!

wizardsdad
05-15-2003, 04:01 PM
This is my very first post, and I couldn't let the opportunity pass to congratulate AJ on the outstanding job he has done on this site. He obviously has maturaty well beyond his years. But my congrats also go out to all the members for their football...especially Dolphin football...knowledge. I thought I was a fan, but you all put me to shame. I'm glad the forums are so well monitored. After all, we're all fans of the greatest sport in America!!

WharfRat
05-15-2003, 05:18 PM
Welcome to FinHeaven wizardsdad! I'm sure you'll find this to be the best Finfan site on the web... since it seems from your compliment to the members, that you've been reading for a while... I'm glad you made the jump from lurker to poster!
I also think we all agree on the outstanding job that AJ has done here, it really has become a "home" for me on the web, and IMO, blows the other fan sites away!
If you should have any comments, suggestions, or questions, please feel free to ask either AJ or myself, or any of our mods and mentors. We're always happy to help in any way we can.

Look forward to your continued posts!


Go Fins!!

Jon

FinHeavenAJ
05-15-2003, 05:28 PM
wizardsdad,

Thanks for the compliments, I really appreciate them. I try my hardest to make this site the greatest it can be; however, without the help of the staff, I don't know where the site would be.

Anyways, as Jon said, if you need any help with the boards, please let myself, Jon, or any other moderator or mentor know, and we'll all be glad to help.

Thanks again...

Sincerely,
Andrew Tatum

FinMadness
05-17-2003, 09:34 AM
I dont think there is anything worse than peeps comming to a board, just to start crap with other fans. I cant understand why anyone would get pleasure from that, unless they just need to build their own self-esteem. This is why I don't go to some of the other fan sites.

wizardsdad
05-17-2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by G.I.LuvDaFins
I dont think there is anything worse than peeps comming to a board, just to start crap with other fans. I cant understand why anyone would get pleasure from that, unless they just need to build their own self-esteem. This is why I don't go to some of the other fan sites.

You haven't missed a thing by avoiding other fan sites!:D