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Pericles349
11-15-2006, 11:44 AM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sns-ap-fbn-congress-nfl,0,760508.story?coll=sns-ap-football-headlines

I think it's ridiculous how the NFL wants to monopolize everything. It's already a joke how they promote the NFL Network as an independent sports channel while their reporters get exclusive access to post and pre-game interviews and other forms of media have to sit by and watch. I also think it's the worst idea to have live games broadcast on the network as it cuts our a ton of people from watching the games. Not only that but the price tag they are asking cable providers for is really out of proportion with the product they offer.

It seriously upsets me. Shows like NFL Total Access are a joke. They are a news show put on by the league, for the league. How critical will they ever be? It's like taking all your news about the latest Ford car exclusively from Ford's PR dept. The bias is unbelievable.

Any thoughts??

maddendude
11-15-2006, 12:24 PM
Yea NFL is all about making money no matter how good of a organization it sounds.

It wants to go international too...do you REALLY think they wanna make games outside the US for the FANS? Hell no, they just see it as huge marketing potential, thus profits. Even though so few US fans wanna export their games.

DolfanDaveInATX
11-15-2006, 12:46 PM
Social Security and Medicare are going bankrupt, federal discretionary spending is out of control, Iran and North Korea are close to producing their own nuclear weapons, Iraq is turning into a quagmire, and Republican senators are focused on...Internet poker and televised pro football? No wonder they lost their majority. (And before I get flamed by my fellow Republicans...)

spydertl79
11-15-2006, 01:00 PM
Social Security and Medicare are going bankrupt, federal discretionary spending is out of control, Iran and North Korea are close to producing their own nuclear weapons, Iraq is turning into a quagmire, and Republican senators are focused on...Internet poker and televised pro football? No wonder they lost their majority. (And before I get flamed by my fellow Republicans...)
At least they're doing something...

Pericles349
11-15-2006, 01:14 PM
Yea NFL is all about making money no matter how good of a organization it sounds.

It wants to go international too...do you REALLY think they wanna make games outside the US for the FANS? Hell no, they just see it as huge marketing potential, thus profits. Even though so few US fans wanna export their games.

I definately agree with going international. I don't think many US fans realize that the NFL is pretty popular in some countries, not just the US. Not only that, but the NFL has marketing campaigns in those countries. I think it is the typical american attitude of not caring about what happens outside its borders. As long as they are happy, who cares. To them it doesn't matter that a Dolphins fan in Brazil spends hundereds of dollars a year paying for extremely expensive cable service just to watch his beloved Dophins, or that a fan in Germany will pay unbelievable shipping prices just to get a replica jersey through the NFL shop. The NFL is much larger than this country, american fans need to understand that. Plain and simple.

That said, the NFL as a league could care less about making this an international league because of the fans. If that were the case then they would add teams from other countries. As you mentioned, profits are all they care about and they will milk this all the way to the bank...

Super Bowl champions should never call themselves World Champions. This league is about as isolated as it can get. There is nothing international about it, thus negating a World title. What is wrong with being called American or National Champion? Why do americans always want to be the best in the world even if they don't compete on a global stage? It's the ironies in life....

Daunt8TDChris84
11-15-2006, 02:08 PM
nfl games on nfl network but on a thursday thats horrible god.

and im mad with the nfl as well because the only game we can play is madden they did there money but dont care bout the consumer they giving us the only ****ing game we can playing madden and its an average game.

B-LO, BABY
11-15-2006, 02:08 PM
I totally agree with you. The NFL Network, the shows it plays, and the games it broadcasts all are a threat to objective coverage of the sport.

The NFL has already seeped its way into the CBS and FOX broadcasting booths, as every sportscaster nowadays swoons over players and teams while rarely criticizing things like poor officiating or shaky ownership. Fans don't want a league where the message is controlled and all media personalities dealing with the league follow the company line.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
11-15-2006, 04:06 PM
they said the same thing when they started showing games on ESPN.

B-LO, BABY
11-15-2006, 04:33 PM
they said the same thing when they started showing games on ESPN.The NFL showing NFL games is different than ESPN showing NFL games. Granted, the NFL keeps them in check somewhat (the alleged forced cancellation of Playmakers, for example), but ESPN is still a separate corporation.

Pericles349
11-15-2006, 04:37 PM
they said the same thing when they started showing games on ESPN.

The HUGE difference being that ESPN carries multiple sports and also offers multiple channels. Not even comparable...:shakeno:

DolfanDaveInATX
11-15-2006, 05:51 PM
Could someone please explain how NFL Network's structure and format is that much different from NBA Network?

DonShula84
11-15-2006, 07:06 PM
Yea NFL is all about making money no matter how good of a organization it sounds.

It wants to go international too...do you REALLY think they wanna make games outside the US for the FANS? Hell no, they just see it as huge marketing potential, thus profits. Even though so few US fans wanna export their games.

Wait, you mean the NFL is a business that wants to make money. How dare they!

I liked NFL Network when I had it, stupid cable company got rid of it a couple months ago. I'd gladly pay the 3 or 4$ a month to have it(got ESPNEWS and a couple Fox sports channels with that cost also), especially during the combine.

maddendude
11-15-2006, 10:24 PM
i've been to some other countries...all they gotta do is get a Dish n they get everything, no monthly fees, etc. lol.

Pericles349
11-16-2006, 11:17 AM
Wait, you mean the NFL is a business that wants to make money. How dare they!

I liked NFL Network when I had it, stupid cable company got rid of it a couple months ago. I'd gladly pay the 3 or 4$ a month to have it(got ESPNEWS and a couple Fox sports channels with that cost also), especially during the combine.

Exactly my point. I think most, if not all, of us would gladly pay an extra monthly fee in order to receive the NFL Network. In fact, I'm sure that I am just 1 of MANY fans on this board who pay the crazy $250 for the NFL Sunday TIcket just to see the Dolphins' games (no, I don't watch many of the other games). That's not the point.

The point is that the NFL Network is asking cable companies to pay approx. $108 million in order to carry the channel AND they have to carry it on basic cable. What does this mean? This means that the cable company must pay an exhuberant amount for a channel that has ridiculously low ratings (compared to channels with similar price tags) and subsequently low appeal to the big name advertisers. What does this mean? It means that the cable company cannot afford to pay the $108 million based on advertising revenue alone and must then pass on the cost to the consumer... yes, everyone who pays for basic cable. This means that EVERYONE's cost for cable will go up just because the NFL Network is part of their programming. How the heck does that seem fare to anyone?!?!?

The majority of cable companies balk at the idea of that huge price tag but are willing to consider it if allowed to include the NFL Network on premium sports packages that customers would have to pay an additional fee for. This makes economic and business sense as then the very few people (in the very large world of TV watchers) who actually want to watch this channel will pay a few bucks more for it.

But, the NFL could care less, they want their cake and they want to eat it....:fire:

Pericles349
11-16-2006, 11:19 AM
Could someone please explain how NFL Network's structure and format is that much different from NBA Network?

What's your point? :wink:

GreenMachine
11-16-2006, 12:37 PM
Are you also pissed that FOX is the only network that can broadcast MLB games on Saturdays?

Or that The NFL Ticket is only available obn DTV?

Pericles349
11-16-2006, 03:46 PM
Are you also pissed that FOX is the only network that can broadcast MLB games on Saturdays?

Or that The NFL Ticket is only available obn DTV?

Hehe.. don't care for baseball and I definately think that NFL Ticket should be offered on more than one satelite provider. It furthers the "Monopoly" mentality that the NFL is so good at...

BE GOOD
11-16-2006, 04:16 PM
I don't know, but I hope my local Cable company (Cablevison) caves in to the NFL's demands. NFL wants to be included in the regular membership, but cablevision wants the NFL Network to be available only as an extra in the sports package.
Direct TV isn't available in my situation/location.

GreenMachine
11-16-2006, 04:41 PM
I don't know, but I hope my local Cable company (Cablevison) caves in to the NFL's demands. NFL wants to be included in the regular membership, but cablevision wants the NFL Network to be available only as an extra in the sports package.
Direct TV isn't available in my situation/location.
The Dolans' are a bunch of azzholes

DolfanDaveInATX
11-16-2006, 04:44 PM
What's your point? :wink:

Seems to me that the NFL is now getting bashed for what the NBA has been doing with its own network for the last several years. NBA Network has several nights a week when it has exclusive national broadcast rights to games, and the only way you can see them if you don't have the network is if you're in one of the teams' local markets. The only difference I see is that the NFL has been much more effective at using its leverage with cable/satellite operators to get on the "basic" tier instead of the "premium sports" tier.

DolfanDaveInATX
11-16-2006, 04:47 PM
Hehe.. don't care for baseball and I definately think that NFL Ticket should be offered on more than one satelite provider. It furthers the "Monopoly" mentality that the NFL is so good at...

If the Sunday Ticket is available on more than one provider, it reduces the total rights fees that the NFL can collect. Because those rights fees are included in the revenues shared with the players, this trickles down to reduce the salary cap for all teams. DirecTV is willing to pay as much as it does for the Sunday Ticket because that exclusive draws them the largest share of their customer base.

B-LO, BABY
11-16-2006, 06:28 PM
Are you also pissed that FOX is the only network that can broadcast MLB games on Saturdays?

Or that The NFL Ticket is only available obn DTV?It's not the same thing. Those are just contracts the leagues have with outside companies.

The NFL having its own network to show games isn't good for the fans at all. It allows the NFL to control the message about the NFL with no dissenting opinions.

unifiedtheory
11-16-2006, 09:01 PM
Every network that televises NFL games has turned their broadcast into a giant "love in".

None of the networks do a good job in my opinion. Sure FOX games look good on T.V. and some CBS games look good but none of them SOUND good anymore.

Commentators are allergic to giving down and distance and substitution updates. Very seldom do they say something that smart NFL fans don't know and, unless there is a sideline reporter (something I hate with a passion) they don't give timely injury updates.

They don't do any of that anymore because they are too busy blabbing. They turn everything into a damn human interest story. CALL THE DAMN GAME! Tell me the situation, tell me the nickle back or the dime back is in, tell me who left the game, tell me who is hurt, tell me what a teams 3rd down percentage is...

The NFL Network doing games won't make any difference what so ever in my opinion. They can't possibly do a worse job then the other networks.

I know people are pissed about the cost. It does'nt bother me to be honest. I've been paying to watch the NFL for over a decade and a year of NFL Network is included with Sunday Ticket from my cable subscriber. I don't mean to sound like an a-hole, I know some people simply can not afford Sunday Ticket or extra channels because of other circumstances so those people have every right to be pissed about the fact that NFL Network is growing. It's business though, nothing you can do to stop it, you can only bend over and take it.:lol:

I think people have to learn to live with it, I can see a time in the future when EVERY NFL game is pay per view, playoffs, Super Bowl...all of it. It all comes with every team/league trying to do anything to max out their revenue streams.

BE GOOD
11-17-2006, 01:01 AM
The Dolans' are a bunch of azzholes
Can't argue with that.