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Caps
11-18-2006, 12:17 AM
I just got back from the theater and I have to say this is the best Bond film I've ever seen, and I'm a big fan of the series. If you haven't seen it, go do so now! I may post a more in-depth review later, but I don't have the time now. But you owe it to yourselves to go see it if you are any kind of Bond fan or a movie buff in general, trust me.

MNFINFAN
11-18-2006, 12:34 AM
I am looking forward to it mate, love Bond. Saw some filmed when I was a kid in Jamaica and have been hooked ever since. This one looks great, far better than the original screening of Casino Royale.

Glad to hear it is recommended.

Prime Time
11-18-2006, 04:44 AM
I just got home too from a LATE showing and I was going to start a thread but I saw this one. I loved Brosnan as a Bond, but I think this guy might just have him IMO. I am also a BIG fan of the 007 Movies...have been since I was young...this movie was GREAT. Might be the best Bond movie I've seen too. Was long, but it never got dull. Even the Texas Hold Em part was interesting with the way he strategized. Simply a great movie. I may also write a more in depth review with Spoilers, but not at this time. Too tired.


P.S. One of the opening scenes...where hee is chasing that guy, all I can say is....:eek:

Slappy8800
11-18-2006, 04:48 AM
is it true this bond doesnt have any gadgets?

Prime Time
11-18-2006, 05:31 AM
is it true this bond doesnt have any gadgets?

WARNING SPOILERS!!!


As far little grappling hooks or magic belts are considered ...no he has no gadgets.

NaboCane
11-18-2006, 07:50 AM
I kind of thought this would happen as soon as I saw the trailers...taking Bond in this more serious direction will be great for the franchise.

finattic79
11-18-2006, 11:06 AM
Yeah I saw it last night, and it was the best Bond movie that I've seen in quite some time. Daniel Craig really was the best choice for Bond and we'll be around for quite a few more of them. The movie flowed extremely well and there never was a dull part in the movie.

Mike13
11-18-2006, 12:08 PM
It was that good huh? I got to see this movie.

Buddwalk
11-18-2006, 12:10 PM
is it like batman begins was for the batman movie franchise? if so i'm going to have to check it out

ganooch
11-18-2006, 12:39 PM
Love the bond series from the days of Sean COnnery. From what I hear, this Bond is supposed to be the most like the Bond in Ian Flemming's books. A cold killing sociopath. Cannot wait to see it!!!!

TotoreMexico
11-18-2006, 12:50 PM
Can't wait to see it!

Caps
11-18-2006, 01:04 PM
is it like batman begins was for the batman movie franchise? if so i'm going to have to check it out

That's a valid comparison. It's definitely a reboot of the franchise like Begins was, where all the previous movies are pushed off to the side and we're given a fresh start.

It's a fantastic movie, the best Bond movie I've ever seen, and I've seen and enjoyed (for the most part) them all.

LouPhinFan
11-18-2006, 04:35 PM
Saw it last night. I love Bond films, and its right up there with the best of the Connery movies. Its about time there was a Bond that can kill a man with his bare hands and not be old enough to apply for medicare part D.

If you go expecting to see a lot of cool gadgets and over the top action sequences, then you'll be disappointed. The action sequences a well done and evenly spaced so they don't distract from the story like some of the previous 007 movies. There are alot of hand to hand fight scenes in this movie. It puts a different spin on James Bond when you see him kill someone with his bare hands. But don't worry, he shoots a few people too.

I think it sets the next few 007 movies pretty well. If I had to compare it to a recent movie, I think it is very similar to the Jason Bourne movies that Matt Damon has done.

Roman529
11-18-2006, 04:36 PM
I've seen most of the Bonds.....Sean Connery will always be the best Bond....but I heard the new guy did a good job. I'll have to check it out.

dominizzo
11-19-2006, 04:20 AM
I've seen most of the Bonds.....Sean Connery will always be the best Bond....but I heard the new guy did a good job. I'll have to check it out.

Connery is a hasbeen!! Craig is awesome

NaboCane
11-19-2006, 07:02 AM
is it like batman begins was for the batman movie franchise? if so i'm going to have to check it outEXACTLY - couldn't have put it better.

tucker
11-19-2006, 08:29 PM
i liked him in layer cake so i'm glad this is getting good reviews

Prime Time
11-21-2006, 02:16 PM
This movie is when Bond first turns to a 00...movie is crazy. The story is a really good one. if you haven't seen it, go and watch it. Worth the price of admission. Vesper was pretty cute too. :yes:

Stitches
11-21-2006, 02:41 PM
I thought this movie was great. Best Bond movie I've seen(not seen them all though). I thought the opening was awesome too, but I like that stuff in my action movies(Jackie Chan, Tony Jaa stuff).

ih8brady
11-23-2006, 06:25 AM
A great movie, the best since Licence to Kill IMO(and the movie is actually very similar to LTK). Close to the book, kept the dark elements but also added some great action and romance. That "free-running"* stunt was incredible, unlike anything I've ever seen on film. The only shame was the lack of Bond theme(it wasnt in there at all until the end credits---the composer was lazy) and the theme song sucked but the credits were the best yet. 4/5 in my book

*- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_running

Bruzer
11-23-2006, 07:31 AM
Free Running is also known as parkour easier to find tutorials on net if you really want to learn. Just search for Parkour tons of sites pop up.

saves
11-24-2006, 05:27 PM
I saw this movie last night and I thought it was fantastic. Craig was a great, the movie was great, the girls were hot, go see it!

tucker
11-24-2006, 06:20 PM
was very good...but bond should never drive a focus...yes i know ford makes ashton martin and its product placement, but still...

Metal Panda
11-24-2006, 08:15 PM
Captain EO

Prime Time
11-25-2006, 06:59 PM
was very good...but bond should never drive a focus...yes i know ford makes ashton martin and its product placement, but still...

He drove a focus because he just started to be a 007. He doesn't have the whole MI6's trust to be driving the best vehicles or best weapons/gadgets.

tucker
11-25-2006, 09:04 PM
He drove a focus because he just started to be a 007. He doesn't have the whole MI6's trust to be driving the best vehicles or best weapons/gadgets.
but bond should never drive a focus......

ih8brady
11-26-2006, 12:50 PM
umm, wasnt that an Aston Martin that he was driving in the film(that flipped 4-5 times)?

tucker
11-26-2006, 01:30 PM
:sighs:

LouPhinFan
11-26-2006, 11:38 PM
umm, wasnt that an Aston Martin that he was driving in the film(that flipped 4-5 times)?

Yes, it was a DB9.

http://autos.yahoo.com/aston_martin_db9/

FLOUNDER
11-26-2006, 11:57 PM
whats your favorite all time james bond movie?

Mines "Thunderball"

Prime Time
11-26-2006, 11:58 PM
umm, wasnt that an Aston Martin that he was driving in the film(that flipped 4-5 times)?

He started with a Focus when he first got to the Hotel. Right before he "valet" parked for that guy.

DrAstroZoom
11-27-2006, 12:24 PM
Daniel Craig is the best Bond since Sean Connery. His interp (and indeed the tone of the whole movie) is very faithful to Ian Fleming's vision.

And to the poster who thought the omission of the 007 theme until the end credits was "lazy": no, it was very much by design. It fit perfectly with 007's first utterance of the classic line, "Bond. James Bond."

I want to see it again. And again.

Timmy54
11-27-2006, 01:45 PM
it was pretty good, i really dont like seeing james bond that naive but that is how the first novel went. by the way, bond doesnt play poker and to try to get in on the poker craze was a bit silly in my opinion.,

NaboCane
11-27-2006, 02:04 PM
whats your favorite all time james bond movie?

Mines "Thunderball"You Only Live Twice.

NaboCane
11-27-2006, 02:05 PM
it was pretty good, i really dont like seeing james bond that naive but that is how the first novel went. by the way, bond doesnt play poker and to try to get in on the poker craze was a bit silly in my opinion.,:lol: Yeah, in the novel it is Baccarat, I'm disappointed the producers didn't see fit to keep that element in instead of trying to pander.

DrAstroZoom
11-27-2006, 02:12 PM
Pander schmander ... can any of you purists quote the rules of Baccarat off the top of your head? How many movie goers do you think could? Since the game is such an important plot point, it was a wise choice to change the game to one with more familiar rules.

Timmy54
11-27-2006, 02:33 PM
Pander schmander ... can any of you purists quote the rules of Baccarat off the top of your head? How many movie goers do you think could? Since the game is such an important plot point, it was a wise choice to change the game to one with more familiar rules.

actually baccarat is played where you make a bet on the player or the banker. two cards are dealt (face cards are 0) and the face value is added up, if over 10 another card is added. the highest score wins. it is that easy. I am a poker purist that thinks bond should stay the hell out of my game, they made it look silly, heck a nut flush vs a full house vs a higher full house, vs a flopped straight flush, yeah that happens all the time with only 4 players left.

DrAstroZoom
11-27-2006, 02:38 PM
It's all about drama, Young Timmah. Of course that collection of hands is rare, but it's dramatic. And with a length already surpassing any other Bond film, it would have been a pace killer to have to explain the rules to a game hardly anyone plays anymore.

Stitches
11-27-2006, 02:56 PM
It's all about drama, Young Timmah. Of course that collection of hands is rare, but it's dramatic. And with a length already surpassing any other Bond film, it would have been a pace killer to have to explain the rules to a game hardly anyone plays anymore.

I had heard of baccarat, but I could honestly tell you nothing about how to play, other than it uses cards. I'd have an easier time trying to explain Magic:The Gathering, and I don't play that game either.

NaboCane
11-27-2006, 03:29 PM
Pander schmander ... can any of you purists quote the rules of Baccarat off the top of your head? How many movie goers do you think could? Since the game is such an important plot point, it was a wise choice to change the game to one with more familiar rules.

:lol: schmander.

Bond has always reflected the elegance of an age...that that age is over doesn't mean that we can't take a dramatic glimpse into it.

And I've never played baccarat nor do I know the rules...yet it's never stopped me from enjoying the Bond films.

And I never played backgammon, yet I enjoyed Octo*****.

Knowledge nor familiarity of the game are necessary to plot; in fact, if anything the popularity of poker, with guys in muscle shirts playing it on television, detracts from plot by taking the focus off the storyline and onto the cards.

tucker
11-27-2006, 03:32 PM
you have to remember the book was made when bacarat was cool

Caps
11-27-2006, 08:04 PM
I thought the poker was very well done, and I read the book years ago and was originally upset that they had changed it. Besides, it would be damn near impossible to set up a 100 mil. + baccarat game these days, no one plays it. Poker is an obsessive game, and it's very plausible that you'd be able to round up enough whales for a high stakes hold-em game.

ih8brady
11-27-2006, 08:34 PM
:lol: schmander.

Bond has always reflected the elegance of an age...that that age is over doesn't mean that we can't take a dramatic glimpse into it.

And I've never played baccarat nor do I know the rules...yet it's never stopped me from enjoying the Bond films.

And I never played backgammon, yet I enjoyed Octo*****.

Knowledge nor familiarity of the game are necessary to plot; in fact, if anything the popularity of poker, with guys in muscle shirts playing it on television, detracts from plot by taking the focus off the storyline and onto the cards.

LMAO! They censored octo*****.

ih8brady
11-27-2006, 08:46 PM
Daniel Craig is the best Bond since Sean Connery. His interp (and indeed the tone of the whole movie) is very faithful to Ian Fleming's vision.

And to the poster who thought the omission of the 007 theme until the end credits was "lazy": no, it was very much by design. It fit perfectly with 007's first utterance of the classic line, "Bond. James Bond."

I want to see it again. And again.


You didnt think that various scenes (interludes, and especially the airport chase) could have used the James Bond theme to jazz things up and remind you that this is a bond film? The score was basically ocassional glimpses of the title song(from which the orchestration wasnt bad) BUT the singing was one of the most ugly, degenerate form of expression it has been my displeasure to hear(sounded like Nirvana being raped).

What did everybody else think of the titles? Granted no nude ladies were in it but I thought the casino theme was very well played.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2695221724629901819&q=casino+royale

Caps
11-27-2006, 09:03 PM
You didnt think that various scenes (interludes, and especially the airport chase) could have used the James Bond theme to jazz things up and remind you that this is a bond film? The score was basically ocassional glimpses of the title song(from which the orchestration wasnt bad) BUT the singing was one of the most ugly, degenerate form of expression it has been my displeasure to hear(sounded like Nirvana being raped).

What did everybody else think of the titles? Granted no nude ladies were in it but I thought the casino theme was very well played.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2695221724629901819&q=casino+royale

*********SPOILERS**********

Sure the Bond theme would have been nice, but like DR. said, it was all by design. The movie is about James becomming the 007 we all know(more or less).

When he drinks Bourbon or whatever it was at the hotel instead of his martini, it's for a reason. When he alows himself to get too close to Vesper and falls in love with her, something Bond would never let happen, it's for a reason. All the mistakes he makes along the way (losing the card game, defribulator, leaving in his earpiece at the stairwell, etc.) it's all for a reason.

The movie is about Bond on his first mission and the events that make him an alcoholic, womanizing, I-Don't-Give-A-F*** killer, and a well dressed, charming one at that. Having no Bond theme and no "Bond, James Bond" until the very end of the movie, where he's wearing the classic suit and finally got the total and complete upper hand on his enemy through planning and patience plays right into the point of the film, and I'll tell you, when I heard him say the line after OWNING Mr. White, followed by the theme, for the first time in a long time i WANTED to stand up and cheer at the end of a movie.

ih8brady
11-27-2006, 09:37 PM
*********SPOILERS**********

Sure the Bond theme would have been nice, but like DR. said, it was all by design. The movie is about James becomming the 007 we all know(more or less).

When he drinks Bourbon or whatever it was at the hotel instead of his martini, it's for a reason. When he alows himself to get too close to Vesper and falls in love with her, something Bond would never let happen, it's for a reason. All the mistakes he makes along the way (losing the card game, defribulator, leaving in his earpiece at the stairwell, etc.) it's all for a reason.

The movie is about Bond on his first mission and the events that make him an alcoholic, womanizing, I-Don't-Give-A-F*** killer, and a well dressed, charming one at that. Having no Bond theme and no "Bond, James Bond" until the very end of the movie, where he's wearing the classic suit and finally got the total and complete upper hand on his enemy through planning and patience plays right into the point of the film, and I'll tell you, when I heard him say the line after OWNING Mr. White, followed by the theme, for the first time in a long time i WANTED to stand up and cheer at the end of a movie.

Sounds like an excuse. For plot purposes he makes a mistake in every movie, hes fallen in love before (On Her Majesty's Secret Service) and Dr No predominately had the James Bond theme. I think David Arnold (the composer of the last four bond movies) is a hack and I'd love to see John Barry back(composer of most of the first 15 movies).


whats your favorite all time james bond movie?

Mines "Thunderball"

Personally, Thunderball is my favorite too!

Caps
11-27-2006, 10:50 PM
Sounds like an excuse. For plot purposes he makes a mistake in every movie,

But never has he made so many or been so naive and blunt. I've seen every single movie more than once, I know.


hes fallen in love before (On Her Majesty's Secret Service)

This happened one time and if you read the book (and I don't know if you did or not) you would understand the significance of it. It's more of a throwaway plot point in the films, in the books it's extremely significant. Not to mention that Casino Royale has nothing to do with the canon of previous Bond films.


and Dr No predominately had the James Bond theme.

Sean Connery was already the suave, calm, collected Bond in Dr. No that we've seen in any other film. It was far from his first mission, therefore it was appropriate to have the Bond theme throughout, while that was not the case in Casino Royale.


I think David Arnold (the composer of the last four bond movies) is a hack and I'd love to see John Barry back(composer of most of the first 15 movies).

Arnold is not my favorite, although I have to say it would have been a lot easier (and lazier) for him to use the Bond theme frequently as a crutch rather than to adapt the title song and come up with a completely original score, like he did here. And I think the job he did on Casino Rayale was fine.

tucker
11-27-2006, 11:11 PM
*********SPOILERS**********

Sure the Bond theme would have been nice, but like DR. said, it was all by design. The movie is about James becomming the 007 we all know(more or less).

When he drinks Bourbon or whatever it was at the hotel instead of his martini, it's for a reason. When he alows himself to get too close to Vesper and falls in love with her, something Bond would never let happen, it's for a reason. All the mistakes he makes along the way (losing the card game, defribulator, leaving in his earpiece at the stairwell, etc.) it's all for a reason.

The movie is about Bond on his first mission and the events that make him an alcoholic, womanizing, I-Don't-Give-A-F*** killer, and a well dressed, charming one at that. Having no Bond theme and no "Bond, James Bond" until the very end of the movie, where he's wearing the classic suit and finally got the total and complete upper hand on his enemy through planning and patience plays right into the point of the film, and I'll tell you, when I heard him say the line after OWNING Mr. White, followed by the theme, for the first time in a long time i WANTED to stand up and cheer at the end of a movie.i thought all this was obvious...:shrugs:

Caps
11-27-2006, 11:20 PM
i thought all this was obvious...:shrugs:

As did I.

ih8brady
11-27-2006, 11:26 PM
And I think the job he did on Casino Rayale was fine.

when it comes to music, gonna have to agree to disagree.

Prime Time
11-28-2006, 03:27 AM
Caps knows what he is talking about.

1. Come on Baccarat would've lost so many people's attention in the movie had that been the game they were playing.

2. The Bond, James Bond at the end was perfect and obvious. It was a way of ending the movie by saying this is how Daniele Craig and Bond introduce themselves as 007.

3. All the mistakes Bond does in this movie, are what helps him become the unstoppable 00 Agent. Trial and error.

Great movie. I think I am going to see it again before It goes out of theatres.

DrAstroZoom
11-28-2006, 10:41 AM
I will definitely see it again. Oh, and the title sequence was AWESOME!

Caps
11-28-2006, 04:12 PM
Agreed, the title sequence was the best in years. *SPOILER*The way he went about killing the traitor in the office reminded me very much of Connery in Dr. No when the guy shoots the pillows Bond set up in the bed.

"That's a Smith & Wesson, and you've had your six." BAM. Cold blooded, the way Bond should be.

ih8brady
11-28-2006, 06:00 PM
Agreed, the title sequence was the best in years. *SPOILER*The way he went about killing the traitor in the office reminded me very much of Connery in Dr. No when the guy shoots the pillows Bond set up in the bed.

"That's a Smith & Wesson, and you've had your six." BAM. Cold blooded, the way Bond should be.

I love the scene with Dryden in the beginning. He had witticisms before officially becoming 007.

D: Its a shame we didn't get to know each other better. (Springs out gun but the magazine was missing)
JB: I know where you keep your gun. Thats something.

gillderais
11-30-2006, 09:42 AM
I love the scene with Dryden in the beginning. He had witticisms before officially becoming 007.

D: Its a shame we didn't get to know each other better. (Springs out gun but the magazine was missing)
JB: I know where you keep your gun. Thats something.

I enjoyed this movie. Thats a great scene. But I just loved this one.

Vesper Lynd: I'm the money!
James Bond: Every penny of it!

Just loved the chemistry between Vesper Lynd and James Bond. Big props to Eva Green, the first smart, complex Bond girl... ever.

DrAstroZoom
11-30-2006, 10:20 AM
Just loved the chemistry between Vesper Lynd and James Bond. Big props to Eva Green, the first smart, complex Bond girl... ever.

Ummm ... what about Jinx (Halle Berry) in "Die Another Day"?

gillderais
11-30-2006, 12:12 PM
Ummm ... what about Jinx (Halle Berry) in "Die Another Day"?

You have a point there. The producers have definately bucked the disposable Bond girl trend. But Vesper Lynd is the woman that wins and ultimately breaks James Bond's heart. I think it's the best female role in all of Fleming's books.

DrAstroZoom
11-30-2006, 12:13 PM
Agreed

ih8brady
12-02-2006, 06:32 PM
ipod credits (joke)

http://bondipod.ytmnd.com/

FinSinceBirth
12-03-2006, 01:16 AM
I saw the movie last night, and my god it was amazing.

DonShula84
12-03-2006, 03:33 AM
I'm not a big Bond fan but I liked this one quite a bit. Thought it was a little long but still really enjoyable.

Prime Time
12-03-2006, 03:59 AM
Speaking of Money and Penny...when will we see the new Money Penny?? And no way they go with that older one that was with Brosnan anymore...