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MikeO
11-18-2006, 11:29 PM
Rutgers just went from a possible BCS bowl to the possible 5th bowl in the Big East. If WV beats Rutgers they get the BCS slot. If Rutgers beats WVU then L'ville will get the BCS slot because Rutgers lost later in the year and L'vile will end up the higher rated team in the BCS poll. Thus, L'ville gets the BCS birth.

The RULE is after the BCS team is named the 2nd Big East bowl (gator/sun) can take any bowl eligable team they want. So, Rutgers could wind up in the 3rd or even 4th BIG EAST bowl depending on location and fans that wil travel....etc.

This is the kind of loss that will have Schiano saying to himself........"it's nice here but its time to move on". He didn't just get killed by a ranked team like a WV or someone of that caliber, he just got slapped around by CINCY!! That Miami job might be looking better.

My prediction is WV to the Orange or Sugar.
Then the Gator has a choice of Big 12 or Big East and they will probably take the Big 12 team since they had L'ville las tyear. Leaving the Sun Bowl with the 2nd Big East team which they will probably take L'ville just due to logistics and fans willing to travel a slightly shorter distance compared to Rutgers.

Rutgers will probably end up in the Meineke Car Care bowl or MOST LIKELY the International Bowl in Toronto, CA (the 5th Big East Bowl). Just because of location and how many fans Rutgers will travel that short distance as NJ to Toronto is a favorable trip for Rutgers fans.

MAN DID RUTGERS LOSE A LOT OF MONEY TONIGHT!!

Orange--WV
SUN--L'ville
Meinke--Cincy
Texas Bowl--S.Florida
International--Rutgers
Papa Johns Bowl---Pitt

Ronnie Bass
11-19-2006, 12:13 AM
MAN DID RUTGERS LOSE A LOT OF MONEY TONIGHT!!


Who honestly cares?

The only things we give a crap about is that the RU program is now on the rise and that this season is more about the future and not just this year, breaking the top 25 was their goal and that exceeded that by ten fold.

This season has meant national wide exposure that will help RU in keeping the best HS players in the state of New Jersey - rich in talent - and perhaps beyond. Their 2007 recruiting class is by far their best one yet especially with the addition of LB stud prospect Manny Abreu and if Anthony Davis commits - it's down to RU and Ohio St for rights to one of the best if not the best OL prospects - it will become even richer.

And it seems like they are now on ESPN every week and except this to continue since ESPN is about money and desperately want to cash in on the NYC market and it looks like have been.

Sure it might suck RU will lose out on more money, but when you consider what everyone expected out of them this season getting that money would have only been gravy on a great season.

Kdawg954
11-19-2006, 12:15 AM
U mean to tell me that if Rutgers beats WVU they don't get the BCS bowl? Even tho they beat Louiville . . .Louiville still gets the nod? Thats crazy.

MikeO
11-19-2006, 12:23 AM
U mean to tell me that if Rutgers beats WVU they don't get the BCS bowl? Even tho they beat Louiville . . .Louiville still gets the nod? Thats crazy.

Yep. Because in a 2 way tie between L'ville and Rutgers. The highest rated BCS team gets the BCS birth.

Since rutgers lost LATER in the year, plus they lost to an unranked team. L'ville is a lock to be the higher ranked team in the BCS poll.

MikeO
11-19-2006, 12:25 AM
Who honestly cares?

The only things we give a crap about is that the RU program is now on the rise and that this season is more about the future and not just this year, breaking the top 25 was their goal and that exceeded that by ten fold.

This season has meant national wide exposure that will help RU in keeping the best HS players in the state of New Jersey - rich in talent - and perhaps beyond. Their 2007 recruiting class is by far their best one yet especially with the addition of LB stud prospect Manny Abreu and if Anthony Davis commits - it's down to RU and Ohio St for rights to one of the best if not the best OL prospects - it will become even richer.

And it seems like they are now on ESPN every week and except this to continue since ESPN is about money and desperately want to cash in on the NYC market and it looks like have been.

Sure it might suck RU will lose out on more money, but when you consider what everyone expected out of them this season getting that money would have only been gravy on a great season.

I will tell you why it matters.........because when your GREG SCHIANO and you lose only 1 (or at most 2) games in a season. And you end up in the 5th or 4th best BIG EAST Bowl. What incentive is there for him to stay.

It just shows that you can only do so much at Rutgers!!

Alex44
11-19-2006, 12:34 AM
Yep. Because in a 2 way tie between L'ville and Rutgers. The highest rated BCS team gets the BCS birth.

Since rutgers lost LATER in the year, plus they lost to an unranked team. L'ville is a lock to be the higher ranked team in the BCS poll.

They lost one week later, a week after they beat LV so to me thats a non factor.

If they beat WVU they will be ahead of LV in the polls so it wont matter.

Ronnie Bass
11-19-2006, 12:37 AM
I will tell you why it matters.........because when your GREG SCHIANO and you lose only 1 (or at most 2) games in a season. And you end up in the 5th or 4th best BIG EAST Bowl. What incentive is there for him to stay.

It just shows that you can only do so much at Rutgers!!

If Rutgers wins out why would anyone pass on getting a NYC area team to NOT play in their bowl game? They have already proven to be a good rating in the countries #1 market and you are going to suggest that they will get passed over for a school that is in the #69th market?

Brilliant logic there. And oh, by the way, Rugers did a great job getting their fans out to last years bowl game in Arizona. No reason to think they wouldn't even do a better job getting them out to even a bigger bowl game.

Kdawg954
11-19-2006, 12:40 AM
They lost one week later, a week after they beat LV so to me thats a non factor.

If they beat WVU they will be ahead of LV in the polls so it wont matter.

Nah iono man, Louiville will be top 10 for sure, they just beat up on a decent USF squad. Rutgers will fall big time, getting crushed by Cincy will do that to u, I mean I would think they might fall out of the top 15? Well definetly out of the top 10. Even if they beat West Va, I don't know if it is enuff, but I guess we will see.

Still can't understand why BCS rank should matter if Rutgers beat the team they would be in a tiebreak with. In the NFL, if u play someone once and beat them, if u have the same record . . . the first tiebreak is head to head.

Ronnie Bass
11-19-2006, 12:45 AM
Nah iono man, Louiville will be top 10 for sure, they just beat up on a decent USF squad. Rutgers will fall big time, getting crushed by Cincy will do that to u, I mean I would think they might fall out of the top 15? Well definetly out of the top 10. Even if they beat West Va, I don't know if it is enuff, but I guess we will see.

Still can't understand why BCS rank should matter if Rutgers beat the team they would be in a tiebreak with. In the NFL, if u play someone once and beat them, if u have the same record . . . the first tiebreak is head to head.

It's just another example in how inept this BCS is.

DonShula84
11-19-2006, 12:59 AM
They lost one week later, a week after they beat LV so to me thats a non factor.

If they beat WVU they will be ahead of LV in the polls so it wont matter.

I wouldnt bet on that. This loss will drop them a lot. A lot of people dont think RU is for real and will use this to drop them further than maybe they should. UL was getting respect from the preseason so people might not be as quick to drop them after a loss.

Alex44
11-19-2006, 01:27 AM
I wouldnt bet on that. This loss will drop them a lot. A lot of people dont think RU is for real and will use this to drop them further than maybe they should. UL was getting respect from the preseason so people might not be as quick to drop them after a loss.

I dont see how you could rank a 1 loss team behind another 1 loss team that you were the only one to beat. Thats all.

MikeO
11-19-2006, 01:40 AM
Because L'ville lost to a RANKED team

Rutgers lost to an UNRANKED team and later in the year. Albeit a week later, STILL later!!!!

MikeO
11-19-2006, 01:42 AM
If Rutgers wins out why would anyone pass on getting a NYC area team to NOT play in their bowl game? They have already proven to be a good rating in the countries #1 market and you are going to suggest that they will get passed over for a school that is in the #69th market?

Brilliant logic there. And oh, by the way, Rugers did a great job getting their fans out to last years bowl game in Arizona. No reason to think they wouldn't even do a better job getting them out to even a bigger bowl game.

There is a chance the GATOR Bowl could take Rutgers. Yes, a chance. And with the GATOR BOWL on NBC (their only bowl) and Dick Embersol in charge of NBC Sports (based in NYC) a good chance.

BUT.......the Gator Bowl can also select any Big 12 team that doesn't go to the BCS (Oklahoma, Nebraska, maybe Texas...etc)

IF the Gator doesn't select Rutgers......I could see them slipping to a Meineke Bowl or International Bowl

Nukulus
11-19-2006, 01:45 AM
Wrong Mike0. The Big East rule for a two-way tie is whoever holds the head to head will go to the BCS game. IE if Rutgers beats WVU (unlikely) they will go to the BCS game no matter what they're ranking.

Basically its probably going to be Louisville getting the BCS from the Big East (because of head to head over WVU) and then WVU getting an at large bid.

MikeO
11-19-2006, 01:47 AM
Wrong Mike0. The Big East rule for a two-way tie is whoever holds the head to head will go to the BCS game. IE if Rutgers beats WVU (unlikely) they will go to the BCS game no matter what they're ranking.

Basically its probably going to be Louisville getting the BCS from the Big East (because of head to head over WVU) and then WVU getting an at large bid.

You may be right. But I thought it was whoever is higher in the BCS ranking.

HysterikiLL
11-19-2006, 01:58 AM
Coaches just don't think "hey, we lost, I might get a new job". Schiano will be back at the drawing board, and if anything, this will be more motivation for him to return next season. I know you have a "Mike Schiano will pull a ghost on Rutgers" fetish, but c'mon.

MikeO
11-19-2006, 02:12 AM
Coaches just don't think "hey, we lost, I might get a new job". Schiano will be back at the drawing board, and if anything, this will be more motivation for him to return next season. I know you have a "Mike Schiano will pull a ghost on Rutgers" fetish, but c'mon.

who's Mike Schiano??

HysterikiLL
11-19-2006, 02:34 AM
who's Mike Schiano??

Yeah, I said the wrong thing. If you can't figure out what I was meaning, maybe you should get someone to check that out.


Unless, of course, you were trying to be funny. In which case, please have a cookie, Dennis Miller.

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LouPhinFan
11-19-2006, 04:11 AM
Wrong Mike0. The Big East rule for a two-way tie is whoever holds the head to head will go to the BCS game. IE if Rutgers beats WVU (unlikely) they will go to the BCS game no matter what they're ranking.

Basically its probably going to be Louisville getting the BCS from the Big East (because of head to head over WVU) and then WVU getting an at large bid.

Nukulus is correct. The Big East CHAMPION gets an automatic berth in the Orange Bowl. If Louisville wins out, and WVU beats Rutgers, then U of L goes to the Orange Bowl and WVU likely gets an at-large berth in another BCS bowl. U of L wins the Big East because they tied WVU in record but beat them head-to-head. Rutgers will probably end up in the Gator Bowl with 2 losses. WVU will probably get an at-large berth in one of the other BCS bowls because by that time they will probably be in the top 8 of the BCS standings.

This kinda makes the Big East look bad. I always thought that Rutgers beating U of L was great for Rutgers, but bad for the Big East. There was no doubt in my mind that Rutgers was going to lose at least one game this year. It would have been better to have U of L win out and play in the NC game. Now it just looks like a bunch of mediocre Big East teams are beating up on each other. I'm sure the fans of the other BCS conferences are having a field day with this.:fire:

NJFINSFAN1
11-19-2006, 10:56 AM
Rutgers just went from a possible BCS bowl to the possible 5th bowl in the Big East. If WV beats Rutgers they get the BCS slot. If Rutgers beats WVU then L'ville will get the BCS slot because Rutgers lost later in the year and L'vile will end up the higher rated team in the BCS poll. Thus, L'ville gets the BCS birth.

The RULE is after the BCS team is named the 2nd Big East bowl (gator/sun) can take any bowl eligable team they want. So, Rutgers could wind up in the 3rd or even 4th BIG EAST bowl depending on location and fans that wil travel....etc.

This is the kind of loss that will have Schiano saying to himself........"it's nice here but its time to move on". He didn't just get killed by a ranked team like a WV or someone of that caliber, he just got slapped around by CINCY!! That Miami job might be looking better.

My prediction is WV to the Orange or Sugar.
Then the Gator has a choice of Big 12 or Big East and they will probably take the Big 12 team since they had L'ville las tyear. Leaving the Sun Bowl with the 2nd Big East team which they will probably take L'ville just due to logistics and fans willing to travel a slightly shorter distance compared to Rutgers.

Rutgers will probably end up in the Meineke Car Care bowl or MOST LIKELY the International Bowl in Toronto, CA (the 5th Big East Bowl). Just because of location and how many fans Rutgers will travel that short distance as NJ to Toronto is a favorable trip for Rutgers fans.

MAN DID RUTGERS LOSE A LOT OF MONEY TONIGHT!!

Orange--WV
SUN--L'ville
Meinke--Cincy
Texas Bowl--S.Florida
International--Rutgers
Papa Johns Bowl---Pitt

They will be no worse then 3rd in the Big East, and they still have everything in there hands, beat WV (Which won't be easy) and you are Big East Champs.

Ronnie Bass
11-19-2006, 11:45 AM
There is a chance the GATOR Bowl could take Rutgers. Yes, a chance. And with the GATOR BOWL on NBC (their only bowl) and Dick Embersol in charge of NBC Sports (based in NYC) a good chance.

BUT.......the Gator Bowl can also select any Big 12 team that doesn't go to the BCS (Oklahoma, Nebraska, maybe Texas...etc)

IF the Gator doesn't select Rutgers......I could see them slipping to a Meineke Bowl or International Bowl

You mean just like how you saw if RU wins the rest of the games that Louisville would still get the nod over RU despite RU winning the head to head game and they would slip to the 3rd or 4th Big East bowl game?

I really think you need to get a better understanding on how the BCS works before telling me or anyone where Rutgers will play their bowl game.

MikeO
11-19-2006, 12:49 PM
You mean just like how you saw if RU wins the rest of the games that Louisville would still get the nod over RU despite RU winning the head to head game and they would slip to the 3rd or 4th Big East bowl game?

I really think you need to get a better understanding on how the BCS works before telling me or anyone where Rutgers will play their bowl game.

:boohoo: your so angry.

Cool off bro!

Ronnie Bass
11-19-2006, 01:53 PM
:boohoo: your so angry.

Cool off bro!

Actually I'm not angry at all, guess your wrong again! :D

MikeO
11-19-2006, 02:52 PM
Actually I'm not angry at all, guess your wrong again! :D

:lol:

ZolarZ_GoPhins
11-19-2006, 06:57 PM
For the BCS Bowl bid.

The Rutgers loss to UC hurt WVU for the BCS bid. If 3 teams were tied with 1 loss then the top team in the BCS rankings gets the bid. Now with Rutgers losing if WVU beats Rutgers there will only be a 2 way tie then the winner of the head to head gets the bid.

WVU needs help with a UofL loss and win out to get a BCS bid

UofL needs help with a Rutgers loss and win out to get a BCS bid

Rutgers still is in control of it's own destiny. Win out and get BCS bowl bid since the beat UofL in head to head match-up.

Bumpus
11-20-2006, 11:20 AM
For the BCS Bowl bid.

The Rutgers loss to UC hurt WVU for the BCS bid. If 3 teams were tied with 1 loss then the top team in the BCS rankings gets the bid. Now with Rutgers losing if WVU beats Rutgers there will only be a 2 way tie then the winner of the head to head gets the bid.

WVU needs help with a UofL loss and win out to get a BCS bid

UofL needs help with a Rutgers loss and win out to get a BCS bid

Rutgers still is in control of it's own destiny. Win out and get BCS bowl bid since the beat UofL in head to head match-up.
Yeah, I just realized that I've gotta root for Pitt (:barf: ) to beat Louisville, then if we win out ... we win the Big East!

Timmy54
11-20-2006, 12:48 PM
I wouldnt be suprised for a bigger bowl to want rutgers just because of all the media hype they got for a bit. So I do not see them getting a before x-mas bowl or something pathetic. But, they lose a ton of cash over this, which would be huge for this school, they could put that money into a new stadium (only holds 45k right now or something like that) and new buildings to help grab recruits. I also do think this might be a reason why schiano would entertain the UM job.