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Philter25
11-20-2006, 04:51 PM
I just read another post which ended with:

Matt Kent
SportsHeven, LLC
FinHeaven.com
CanesHeaven.com

And I was told that Matt Kent owns finheaven.......

Did AJ sell Finheaven to fin-atic? How come? Why wasnt this sale ever posted on the main page or anything?

Buddwalk
11-20-2006, 04:54 PM
no clue hopefully not though

In_Flames
11-20-2006, 04:55 PM
:confused2

Motion
11-20-2006, 04:58 PM
:hmmm:

Nicky Napoleon
11-20-2006, 09:41 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finheaven

According to an article I found on wikipedia.com Finheaven has been sold....

Scrap
11-20-2006, 10:14 PM
News to me. Who the heck is Fin-atic anyway ? I'm not familiar with the name.

PHINATIC13
11-20-2006, 11:48 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finheaven

According to an article I found on wikipedia.com Finheaven has been
sold....

thanks for the link bro,I had no idea it had been sold.



Good luck with your future endeavors AJ and thank you for starting FH.

Philter25
11-21-2006, 12:06 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finheaven

According to an article I found on wikipedia.com Finheaven has been sold....

I never saw that. Thanks for posting.

Anyone know why this wasnt announced? I would expect something on the news/announcements page or something......

MikeO
11-21-2006, 12:13 AM
He should have made an announcement that it was for sale.

I'm sure he could have got more than he did for it.

Nicky Napoleon
11-21-2006, 12:18 AM
Yeah Im sure he could have gotten the price up, but why no mention of it all together....

MikeO
11-21-2006, 12:21 AM
Yeah Im sure he could have gotten the price up, but why no mention of it all together....

probalby for tax purposes AJ doesn't want to claim the money he got paid for the site.

I'm sure the site wasn't sold for a couple hundred bucks. This was probably a few grand AJ got. If he didn't then he made a huge mistake because the market value for this site is worth in the thousands!!!

Nicky Napoleon
11-21-2006, 12:25 AM
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?a1=DETFIL&n1=L06000030874&n2=NAMFWD&n3=0000&n4=N&r1=&r2=&r3=&r4=SPORTSHEAVEN&r5=
Looks like its official

Muck
11-21-2006, 02:05 AM
The site changed hands almost a year ago. Matt just chose not to make a big deal about it. Matt has always been a big supporter of the site (Premium Member) and obviously continues to be. He has been a great for FinHeaven. We would not be where we are without him.

There was never any plans for an announcement. That's not what FinHeaven is about. Matt had no desire to divert the focus of the site to anything other than the Dolphins. He's not in it for money or recognition. Nobody makes a dime off the site. He's in it because he loves the Dolphins and the site.

Muck
11-21-2006, 02:17 AM
I don't know who wrote that Wiki article, but it's not very good. :lol:

Philter25
11-21-2006, 11:21 AM
The site changed hands almost a year ago. Matt just chose not to make a big deal about it. Matt has always been a big supporter of the site (Premium Member) and obviously continues to be. He has been a great for FinHeaven. We would not be where we are without him.

There was never any plans for an announcement. That's not what FinHeaven is about. Matt had no desire to divert the focus of the site to anything other than the Dolphins. He's not in it for money or recognition. Nobody makes a dime off the site. He's in it because he loves the Dolphins and the site.

A year ago....wow. I seriously had no idea until this week...... I guess that answers my other "Q" post I posted in here that no one responded to.....


I don't know who wrote that Wiki article, but it's not very good. :lol: The wiki thingy said AJ stepped aside..... seriously? Thats not true is it?

inFINSible
11-21-2006, 06:29 PM
No, it's not true.....AJ is still running the site and, of course, improving the site, just like always.

Jimmy James
11-25-2006, 04:20 PM
I don't know who wrote that Wiki article, but it's not very good. :lol:

It's so bad that I'm proposing its deletion. It's pretty borderline whether FH is notable enough for Wikipedia coverage per their policy, and that article certainly reflects poorly on both their project and this site.

Celtkin
11-27-2006, 08:08 AM
I don't know who wrote that Wiki article, but it's not very good. :lol:
See any names you recognize? :lol:
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+ [[[Media:http://www.finheaven.com FinHeaven & Co]]] is a Miami Dolphins fan site started by a teenager named Andrew Tatum (better known as FinheavenAJ) who wanted to pay homage to his beloved Phins. The site has evolved over the past 10 or so years from one teenager's site, to one of the largest if not the largest Miami Dolphin Fan website boasting a message board with over 20,000 registered members (most of which have been banned, are 1 person registered under 3-4 names, or have never even posted on the site).But they keep the numbers up anyway, because it looks good. The site has constantly evolved adding new staff, and cummentary by a wide range of fans from all over the globe. They even have a trio of draftniks who give in depth scouting reports for each draft. Along with the evolution of the site has come changes, AJ has stepped aside and sold the site to current staff member Matt Kent.

Muck
11-27-2006, 10:48 AM
That's pretty sad. But you know what they say about a woman scorned. :lol:

byroan
11-27-2006, 11:50 AM
:rofl:

guatemalanfan
11-27-2006, 02:20 PM
wow ...I dindt kniw this!!!

Philter25
11-27-2006, 05:32 PM
(most of which have been banned, are 1 person registered under 3-4 names, or have never even posted on the site).But they keep the numbers up anyway, because it looks good. :lol: Funny stuff.......

It might be funny, immature, and pathetic, but when it comes to the numbers thing, I think WildBill3 actually crunched the numbers awhile back before he became a mod....... excluding members who havent posted in 2 years and members who have zero posts and members who made multiple accounts and got re-banned, I think the actual membership was less than 1/2 the advertised one.... so while its trite and pathetic, there is a breath of truth in there.

Jimmy James
11-27-2006, 07:58 PM
Somebody claiming to be AJ (who might be AJ himself -- post if you are) has removed the proposed deletion template from the article. I have therefore given the article a rewrite to conform in both style and coverage to what might be encyclopedic.

Muck
11-27-2006, 08:59 PM
:lol: Funny stuff.......

It might be funny, immature, and pathetic, but when it comes to the numbers thing, I think WildBill3 actually crunched the numbers awhile back before he became a mod....... excluding members who havent posted in 2 years and members who have zero posts and members who made multiple accounts and got re-banned, I think the actual membership was less than 1/2 the advertised one.... so while its trite and pathetic, there is a breath of truth in there.

It's got nothing to do with advertising, fudging, etc. It's simply VB (the forums software). That's the way it counts it up for every forum on the internet that runs the software. I'm pretty sure that phpbb and other forum software used by our fellow fan sites do it the same way too. But it seems FinHeaven is supposed to somehow hack the software so one small group of green-eyed's don't get their feelings hurt. :cry:

Honestly, they call more attention to the numbers than we do. :dunno:

Muck
11-27-2006, 09:01 PM
In regards to 0 posts, if it weren't for spam filters.....the number of active members would increase exponentially. The amount of confirmation emails, as well as post notifications, that get kicked back to us by AOL, etc. is pretty substantial.

Muck
11-27-2006, 09:07 PM
Somebody claiming to be AJ (who might be AJ himself -- post if you are) has removed the proposed deletion template from the article. I have therefore given the article a rewrite to conform in both style and coverage to what might be encyclopedic.

It's not A.J. But it's nice to know that he has a stalker. :lol:

Thanks for the rewrite.

Celtkin
11-27-2006, 09:53 PM
It's got nothing to do with advertising, fudging, etc. It's simply VB (the forums software). That's the way it counts it up for every forum on the internet that runs the software. I'm pretty sure that phpbb and other forum software used by our fellow fan sites do it the same way too. But it seems FinHeaven is supposed to somehow hack the software so one small group of green-eyed's don't get their feelings hurt. :cry:

Honestly, they call more attention to the numbers than we do. :dunno:

Not to mention that FH reports the total members AND active members. If we sought to deceive the public about membership, we could easily just report the total membership.

fin-atic
11-28-2006, 12:39 AM
All:

A couple of quick facts so that everyone knows the exact truth.

1. I bought the majority of the site about a year ago. This was primarily due to FH being nearly out of business and I did not want to see the site close. Most still do not get it that it costs a ton to keep this place going. So a few pay and many play. AJ does not have the resources to keep it going, I do so I stepped in.

2. AJ is still very involved as is all the same staff, and AJ retains a small piece of the action.

3. I echo what Muck says as I want to keep it a low profile and just help with business. I am proud to say we have made great strides and should be here for years to come.

Any questions please PM me.

-Matt

NaboCane
11-28-2006, 01:30 AM
All:

A couple of quick facts so that everyone knows the exact truth.

1. I bought the majority of the site about a year ago. This was primarily due to FH being nearly out of business and I did not want to see the site close. Most still do not get it that it costs a ton to keep this place going. So a few pay and many play. AJ does not have the resources to keep it going, I do so I stepped in.

2. AJ is still very involved as is all the same staff, and AJ retains a small piece of the action.

3. I echo what Muck says as I want to keep it a low profile and just help with business. I am proud to say we have made great strides and should be here for years to come.

Any questions please PM me.

-Matt:clap:

dlockz
11-28-2006, 04:17 AM
All:

A couple of quick facts so that everyone knows the exact truth.

1. I bought the majority of the site about a year ago. This was primarily due to FH being nearly out of business and I did not want to see the site close. Most still do not get it that it costs a ton to keep this place going. So a few pay and many play. AJ does not have the resources to keep it going, I do so I stepped in.

2. AJ is still very involved as is all the same staff, and AJ retains a small piece of the action.

3. I echo what Muck says as I want to keep it a low profile and just help with business. I am proud to say we have made great strides and should be here for years to come.

Any questions please PM me.

-Matt


I'm very ignorant of the costs to keep a website of this magnitude up and running is there anyway to get a rough estimate.

Philter25
11-28-2006, 12:08 PM
It's got nothing to do with advertising, fudging, etc. It's simply VB (the forums software). That's the way it counts it up for every forum on the internet that runs the software. I'm pretty sure that phpbb and other forum software used by our fellow fan sites do it the same way too. But it seems FinHeaven is supposed to somehow hack the software so one small group of green-eyed's don't get their feelings hurt. :cry:

Honestly, they call more attention to the numbers than we do. :dunno:


In regards to 0 posts, if it weren't for spam filters.....the number of active members would increase exponentially. The amount of confirmation emails, as well as post notifications, that get kicked back to us by AOL, etc. is pretty substantial.

The way I worded my post made it sound like I wrote the wikipedia article and was defending it..... just to clarify, I dont disagree with you, I was just recollecting a convo I had with WildBill awhile back on the same subject.

Philter25
11-28-2006, 12:13 PM
All:

A couple of quick facts so that everyone knows the exact truth.

1. I bought the majority of the site about a year ago. This was primarily due to FH being nearly out of business and I did not want to see the site close. Most still do not get it that it costs a ton to keep this place going. So a few pay and many play. AJ does not have the resources to keep it going, I do so I stepped in.

2. AJ is still very involved as is all the same staff, and AJ retains a small piece of the action.

3. I echo what Muck says as I want to keep it a low profile and just help with business. I am proud to say we have made great strides and should be here for years to come.

Any questions please PM me.

-Matt

I think most of us who are not mods or admins had absolutely no idea...... the only reason it jumped into my head was the thread on another site where you and Ken were talking a few weeks back that I ended up reading when I was snooping around. I would have guessed the exact opposite when it comes to the financial situation....... I would have figured that the advertising on here would cover the costs of keeping it up....

WharfRat
11-28-2006, 12:37 PM
I I would have figured that the advertising on here would cover the costs of keeping it up....

not even close.
The three servers it takes to keep this place moving efficiently alone cost more than the advertising generates.... :wink:

Muck
11-28-2006, 06:48 PM
We also have a dedicated mail server. We process out a good bit of spam...er, mail.

Muck
11-28-2006, 06:50 PM
The way I worded my post made it sound like I wrote the wikipedia article and was defending it..... just to clarify, I dont disagree with you, I was just recollecting a convo I had with WildBill awhile back on the same subject.

That honestly never entered my mind. No worries. :)