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PhinKev
05-19-2003, 09:18 AM
From Profootballtalk.com:

Based on reports that Bills defensive tackle Sam Adams seemed to be heavier than normal at the team's recent minicamp, a league personnel exec tells us that Adams' expanding size was predictable.

"He got paid, but not what he wanted," said the source. "So he'll just be a fat slob all through the season."

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Justasportsfan
05-19-2003, 09:27 AM
It's like saying Seau is all washed up. No one really knows til' the season starts.

inFINSible
05-19-2003, 09:46 AM
More like.......www.profootballsmacktalk.com.....

zach13
05-19-2003, 10:17 AM
This is completely unsurprising. By the 4th Quarter RW will be running right over this guy

VanDolPhan
05-19-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by justafan
It's like saying Seau is all washed up. No one really knows til' the season starts.

Yah but no one is saying it. All they are saying with Seau is that he's old and lost a step. Which is a concern to us but he's no where near as important to our defense as Sam Adams will be. If he doesn't do his job your LB's won't be as effective. Your entire offseason defense was signed for one reason and that was to stop Ricky. It all starts with the DT's. If they both don't show there will be trouble. I remember how terrified I was with Larry Chester coming in.

IceStorm
05-19-2003, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by VanDolPhan


Yah but no one is saying it. All they are saying with Seau is that he's old and lost a step. Which is a concern to us but he's no where near as important to our defense as Sam Adams will be. If he doesn't do his job your LB's won't be as effective. Your entire offseason defense was signed for one reason and that was to stop Ricky. It all starts with the DT's. If they both don't show there will be trouble. I remember how terrified I was with Larry Chester coming in.

I wont say their entire defense is being designed to just stop Ricky. While that is one of their concerns, I'd more say they're trying to stop the run from any other team. If you remember, they did have a slight issue in stopping opposing teams from running over their D line.

Justasportsfan
05-19-2003, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by VanDolPhan


Yah but no one is saying it. All they are saying with Seau is that he's old and lost a step. Which is a concern to us but he's no where near as important to our defense as Sam Adams will be. If he doesn't do his job your LB's won't be as effective. Your entire offseason defense was signed for one reason and that was to stop Ricky. It all starts with the DT's. If they both don't show there will be trouble. I remember how terrified I was with Larry Chester coming in.

You missed my point, it's all talk until the season starts.

It was reported that he may very well be 350 lbs. What wasn't reported in that article which was reported in another, he moved liked he was 330 in camp.

Seau is put beside Zach and Adams is put beside Pat Williams. Adams signed an incentive laden contract. He has no choice but to perform. That article was nothing but crap. I don't care, we'll have to wait and see really if RW will be as successful against the bills like he was last year. I doubt it.

Jeep
05-19-2003, 10:54 AM
Hey.. this thread has nothing to do with the Phins.. lets move it!!

VanDolPhan
05-19-2003, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by IceStorm


I wont say their entire defense is being designed to just stop Ricky. While that is one of their concerns, I'd more say they're trying to stop the run from any other team. If you remember, they did have a slight issue in stopping opposing teams from running over their D line.

Yah looking at their schedule it's not totally weak. Ricky twice, Priest, Martin *2, Corey Dillon, Tiki Barber and even Eddie George and Duce Staley.

And Justafan don't tell me your about to compare the WLB in the dolphins system to the DT which annually has 6+ DT's off the boards in round one every year? Don't say your going there :lol:

Justasportsfan
05-19-2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Jeep
Hey.. this thread has nothing to do with the Phins.. lets move it!!


Please do, the Sam Adams signing is obviously scaring some finfans. :D

Justasportsfan
05-19-2003, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by VanDolPhan



And Justafan don't tell me your about to compare the WLB in the dolphins system to the DT which annually has 6+ DT's off the boards in round one every year? Don't say your going there :lol:

You're the one who's doing it . Not me :D

VanDolPhan
05-19-2003, 11:06 AM
And I quote:



Originally posted by justafan
Seau is put beside Zach and Adams is put beside Pat Williams.

Lets not go there :lol:

Hey I'll even make it fair. If Tim Bowens goes down feel free to come here and predict gloom. Only thing that calms me about Tim going down is we got our best backup DT ever in Zgonina (who strangely enough put up better #'s then Sam last year but chose to take less money to come play backup with us this year like Buckley/Thompson/Knight :D )

Speaking of which. You got an xbox? I'm thinking about doing that XSN thing they are going to do with Fever 2004 since Maddens doing the screw job to Xbox users with no online play. Thinking of getting a league together of Finheaven users including Bills fans :lol:

Justasportsfan
05-19-2003, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by VanDolPhan
And I quote:




Lets not go there :lol:

Hey I'll even make it fair. If Tim Bowens goes down feel free to come here and predict gloom. Only thing that calms me about Tim going down is we got our best backup DT ever in Zgonina (who strangely enough put up better #'s then Sam last year but chose to take less money to come play backup with us this year like Buckley/Thompson/Knight :D )



Once again you don't see my point. I'll just let it go. It's all smack anyways.
Sorry, don't have any type of games stuff.

PhinKev
05-19-2003, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by justafan


It was reported that he may very well be 350 lbs. What wasn't reported in that article which was reported in another, he moved liked he was 330 in camp.

He moved like he was 330? :D

Exacly how does a man move like he's 330? I'm not sure exactly what the big agility advantage is for 330 pound men, but if that puts you at ease :rolleyes:

By the way . . . How the Bills plan to stop the Dolphins running game (with a fat slob), I think is moderately meaningful to the Dolphins. Are there so many hot topics that this thread should be moved?

Wait, lets replace it with another are Ricky's biceps real thread. Yep, gotta make room for that one. :rolleyes:

VanDolPhan
05-19-2003, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by justafan
Sorry, don't have any type of games stuff.

Oh man you should. Xbox with Fever and the XSN sports (http://www.xbox.com/xsnsports) with it's personal web based stats, tournaments and cell phone notification we can get some serious organized tournaments going around here :)

PhinKev
05-19-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by VanDolPhan


Oh man you should. Xbox with Fever and the XSN sports (http://www.xbox.com/xsnsports) with it's personal web based stats, tournaments and cell phone notification we can get some serious organized tournaments going around here :)

I know this is way off topic, but I'm looking at the Xbox and the PS2 for sports games. Which is better?

Justasportsfan
05-19-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by PhinKev


By the way . . . How the Bills plan to stop the Dolphins running game (with a fat slob), I think is moderately meaningful to the Dolphins. Are there so many hot topics that this thread should be moved?

Wait, lets replace it with another are Ricky's biceps real thread. Yep, gotta make room for that one. :rolleyes:

That's like me asking you , how the hell will the fins stop Henry in the outside with old man Seau and his bad ankles?

Like I said, you and I will never know til' season starts.

One things for sure, you are obviously scared about the Adams signing since you insist on posting only the negative so-called reports on Adams. :D

phinphan
05-19-2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by PhinKev


Wait, lets replace it with another are Ricky's biceps real thread. Yep, gotta make room for that one. :rolleyes:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I must have missed that one. Man, hero worship really can go too far.

XoPhinsoX
05-19-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by justafan


That's like me asking you , how the hell will the fins stop Henry in the outside with old man Seau and his bad ankles?

Like I said, you and I will never know til' season starts.

One things for sure, you are obviously scared about the Adams signing since you insist on posting only the negative so-called reports on Adams. :D

Then again we could say the same about you talking about Seau, Knight and Ricky ;).

PhinsTD
05-19-2003, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by justafan



One things for sure, you are obviously scared about the Adams signing since you insist on posting only the negative so-called reports on Adams. :D

Well as soon as a positive outlook on Adams comes about we'll be glad to post it.

I doubt any Phin fans are scared so much as we are monitoring. Obviously the Bills have improved and Adams has been a good player before,Ravens SB team.

The fact still remains and you must have some worries about Adams history of being lazy after he gets some money. Yeah I'm worried about a team that beat us twice and seems to have improved.

The thing that gives me hope is that we seem to have improved as well.

Justasportsfan
05-19-2003, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Phinstd


Well as soon as a positive outlook on Adams comes about we'll be glad to post it.


The fact still remains and you must have some worries about Adams history of being lazy after he gets some money. Yeah I'm worried about a team that beat us twice and seems to have improved.

The thing that gives me hope is that we seem to have improved as well.

How about this.

Bills | Adams Looking to Trim Down
Sat, 17 May 2003 20:09:52 -0700

Allen Wilson, of the Buffalo News, reports for the Sporting News that Buffalo Bills DT Sam Adams appeared to be heavier than usual during the team's recent minicamp. Adams, however, moved like he was much trimmer than he actually is. He said he's determined to be in the 330-pound range this season.


There's more positive articles regarding Adams but you know this is not a Bills forum. ;)


The fact still remains and you must have some worries about Adams history of being lazy after he gets some money. Yeah I'm worried about a team that beat us twice and seems to have improved.

Man you guys don't read well do ya? :jk: This was addressed by signing him to an incentive laden contract. He does not get $ if he does not perform.

Josh Reed
05-19-2003, 12:59 PM
They don't know any better there just http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2003/05/fishdmeta-1.gif
fans!:)

DolfanISS
05-19-2003, 04:22 PM
Fact is Teams with Adams in the middle have been in the top five against the run for awhile. I don't think that is coincidence. However Rivky did have 100 yards rushing against the Radisers :).

As far as Bills fans saying Ricky won't have the same success this season that he did last season. That's kind of a "Captain Obvious" statement. Ricky only had 97 yards rushing in the first game against Buffalo last season. Us finfans would be foolish to expect him to have 200+ yards rushing in Buffalo again this year. If Ricky has 80+ yards rushing in both meetings and Miami wins that's all we needed.

t2thejz
05-19-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by zachseau13
This is completely unsurprising. By the 4th Quarter RW will be running right over this guy More like the 1st quarter

Justasportsfan
05-19-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by t2thejz
More like the 1st quarter

Over SAm Adams only to be sandwiched by Pat Williams. Yeah I like that idea , good call.

IceStorm
05-19-2003, 04:59 PM
Please dont let this thread turn into smack, it started out good too.

Back on topic. Yeah, Sammy is a bit on the fattie side but I'm sure that is just the offseason. If or when he trims down he will perform as he always has. Lets just hope he gets an ingrown toenail the day before the Dolphins play them. :D

finfan54
05-20-2003, 07:37 AM
I told you guys a couple of weeks ago about sam adams being 350 lbs. no way no how does sam adams put a scare into us at that wieght. he will be out a couple fo series throughout teh game and will be out on third downs. count on it. there is no way a guy like that (especially up north where they eat alot of turkey come holiday season, just ask jamie nails) is going to play full time. Tim Bowens doesnt even play full time at 310. Im tellin ya right now, Sam Adams has never gave us trouble when he was a raider or a Raven, he will not as a buffalo bill at 350 lbs! :lol: i predict that with all the hoopla over adams in buffalo, he will end up being one of the big busts of free agency this year. I am more worried about takeo spikes than sam adams.

And the comparison to Seau is a complete joke. Seau is still in fabulous shape and probably always will be. He is a leader and has an excellent attitude. Can you say Sam Adams has a great attitude? I say he is a fat cat and it shows.

Justasportsfan
05-20-2003, 09:45 AM
Some finfans need to learn how to comprehend.


I told you guys a couple of weeks ago about sam adams being 350 lbs. no way no how does sam adams put a scare into us at that wieght. he will be out a couple fo series throughout teh game and will be out on third downs. count on it. there is no way a guy like that (especially up north where they eat alot of turkey come holiday season, just ask jamie nails) is going to play full time.

You are not far from Buffalo, does this mean you aare overweight yourself?


predict that with all the hoopla over adams in buffalo, he will end up being one of the big busts of free agency this year. I am more worried about takeo spikes than sam adams.

Do you have next weeks lotto nos.?


And the comparison to Seau is a complete joke. Seau is still in fabulous shape and probably always will be.

Seau is coming off his worst season because of injury. Will he be ready when season starts? Have you seen him play with the fins in a regular season game? NO!!! You're just hoping he'll be in great shape. Just like Adams we don't know til' gameday. That's the reason for the comparisson. But wait, he will always be in great shape , blah, blah blah. I bet you would say the same thing if Adams signed with the fins. :rolleyes:

XoPhinsoX
05-21-2003, 01:17 PM
Guys like Seau (Hall of Famers in general like Rice, etc) are ALWAYS in shape.

Seems like Adams is taking the approach "I'll just lose the weight when I need to".

You'll see the affect when he steps on the field..