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SBN3YEARS
12-02-2006, 12:24 PM
Drew Brees should be our quarterback.....Let's face it, Saban boned us for years to come. We are not making the playoffs(I HOPE WE DO) and Brees will and might win MVP. I can't understand how everyone is happy with Joey. QB should have been solved with Brees for the next 5 years but we will be looking for a QB again next year. Picking Culpepper over Brees has to be dubbed one of, if not the worst move in franchise history. And don't tell me that Culpepper was not healthy, he sucks. Watch a Saints game and tell me if you get as sick to your stomach watching Brees as I do. Sorry for the rant.

branflakecereal
12-02-2006, 12:29 PM
Drew Brees should be our quarterback.....Let's face it, Saban boned us for years to come. We are not making the playoffs(I HOPE WE DO) and Brees will and might win MVP. I can't understand how everyone is happy with Joey. QB should have been solved with Brees for the next 5 years but we will be looking for a QB again next year. Picking Culpepper over Brees has to be dubbed one of, if not the worst move in franchise history. And don't tell me that Culpepper was not healthy, he sucks. Watch a Saints game and tell me if you get as sick to your stomach watching Brees as I do. Sorry for the rant.

Hindsight's 20/20 and all that jazz. I was a Brees guy, myself. When I heard about the Culpepper trade my immediate reaction was "Damnit!". However, Culpepper and Harrington are our QB's, and we've gotta deal with what we've got. Harrington has done admirably as a backup, and Culpepper, well, we're just going to have to hope he gets his explosiveness back.

That being said, I'd love to have Drew Brees right about now.

rafael
12-02-2006, 12:30 PM
It's too early to tell. The report that was released recently said that Brees' injury was a full labrum tear (much worse than originally stated). I've asked a few medical professionals and every one of them said that the long term prognosis for a QB with that injury is horrible and that passing on a QB with that injury was obvious. Brees may beat the odds (and I hope he does) but signing a QB with that injury to a big money contract is the wrong choice 99.9% of the time.

tyson22
12-02-2006, 12:31 PM
Drew Brees should be our quarterback.

hes not.. move on.

steveincolorado
12-02-2006, 12:35 PM
LOL,

I doubt that anyone saw that (Brees) coming. Back then when the decision had to be made, I think most people would have taken a shot at C-Pep over Brees. I'll take a QB coming off a knee injury over paying a QB 10 mil a year that is coming off a shoulder injury. When the decisions were made, Brees still couldn't throw and thats a huge gamble + with the Dolphins in cap hell, if it backfired........it wouldn't have been pretty. It would have been a huge setback.

After saying that, if both were healthy, I'd take Brees over C-Pep anyday. I'am not a C-Pep fan and never have been, but I'am not here to bash him. With his injury, his got a free pass on this year.

ganew57
12-02-2006, 12:40 PM
Why are you bringing this up now. What does it matter?

1334
12-02-2006, 12:41 PM
Drew Brees should be our quarterback.....Let's face it, Saban boned us for years to come. We are not making the playoffs(I HOPE WE DO) and Brees will and might win MVP. I can't understand how everyone is happy with Joey. QB should have been solved with Brees for the next 5 years but we will be looking for a QB again next year. Picking Culpepper over Brees has to be dubbed one of, if not the worst move in franchise history. And don't tell me that Culpepper was not healthy, he sucks. Watch a Saints game and tell me if you get as sick to your stomach watching Brees as I do. Sorry for the rant.
You are correct in your OPINION. I agree we should have taken Brees. It's easy to say that now. The FACT of the matter is that we didn not take Brees and are stuck with Cpep. So, no reason to worry about it and keep re-bringin it up.

Let me help you understand how everyone is happy with Joey. He is winning! Plain and simple. Whatever you want to say about the Defense is winning for us doesn't matter, because the QB is the one that gets credit for winning games and get hammered for losing them. He is winning right now. I'm sure as soon as he loses another game, people will not be "happy with Joey." It's how fans operate. Love them when they win, hate em when they lose. Hope that helps.

MonkeyDog
12-02-2006, 12:41 PM
Forget Saban. Wannstedt/Fiedler = Jamar Fletcher over Drew Brees. All while Surtain and Madison were the leagues best DB tandem. Everyone knew we needed a young QB to develop and Brees had an excellent career at Purdue and showed plenty of potential.

Mogwai
12-02-2006, 12:50 PM
Yup, he ****ed up. Oh well, we'll recover. Pistons took Darko over Carmelo, Wade and Bosh but still won a championship. The majority of Dolphins fans wanted Brees first on their list. Let's put to bed the idea that coaches in the nfl invariably know better in all things.

rafael
12-02-2006, 12:58 PM
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Let me help you understand how everyone is happy with Joey. He is winning! Plain and simple. Whatever you want to say about the Defense is winning for us doesn't matter, because the QB is the one that gets credit for winning games and get hammered for losing them. He is winning right now. I'm sure as soon as he loses another game, people will not be "happy with Joey." It's how fans operate. Love them when they win, hate em when they lose. Hope that helps.

I agree, fans are stupid and often default to the simplest equation.

bobsanders12
12-02-2006, 12:58 PM
y are we bashing cpep and JH. right now JH is doing great 4 wins in a row shoot we might win the rest of them to..... i think we should be more supportive to our QB and cpep if he comes back real healthy next year i think he will do great as a BACKUP. but lets all support the guy has given us 4 str8 wins and a slim chance to the playoffs..... he could havedone worse lost them all like he did in detroit but now he has a supporting cast so lets cheer for him

ADDiKT
12-02-2006, 01:04 PM
Forget Saban. Wannstedt/Fiedler = Jamar Fletcher over Drew Brees. All while Surtain and Madison were the leagues best DB tandem. Everyone knew we needed a young QB to develop and Brees had an excellent career at Purdue and showed plenty of potential.

Yea, because what QBs do in college ALWAYS translates into the NFL... i.e. Timmy Chang, Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf need I continue?

The facts are clear cut.

When looking for a QB, If one QB is coming off of a devistating Arm injury and another is coming off of a devistating leg injury -- MOST of the experts would say take the one with a leg injury... Most of the people who know or act like they know said Miami made the right move... It's way too early to say that Saban made a mistake. And for the thread starter to call this the biggest mistake in franchise history makes me think he has been following the Dolphins only thru the Saban years. If Culpepper comes back next season and is the Culpepper of old -- this wont be discussed anymore... I think it's pretty obvious to us now that C'Pep wasnt ready. He is a gamer though and tried. whatever.....

TotoreMexico
12-02-2006, 01:21 PM
Drew Brees should be our quarterback.....Let's face it, Saban boned us for years to come. We are not making the playoffs(I HOPE WE DO) and Brees will and might win MVP. I can't understand how everyone is happy with Joey. QB should have been solved with Brees for the next 5 years but we will be looking for a QB again next year. Picking Culpepper over Brees has to be dubbed one of, if not the worst move in franchise history. And don't tell me that Culpepper was not healthy, he sucks. Watch a Saints game and tell me if you get as sick to your stomach watching Brees as I do. Sorry for the rant.

:deadhorse

dahlmarino
12-02-2006, 01:22 PM
Yea, because what QBs do in college ALWAYS translates into the NFL... i.e. Timmy Chang, Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf need I continue?

The facts are clear cut.

When looking for a QB, If one QB is coming off of a devistating Arm injury and another is coming off of a devistating leg injury -- MOST of the experts would say take the one with a leg injury... Most of the people who know or act like they know said Miami made the right move... It's way too early to say that Saban made a mistake. And for the thread starter to call this the biggest mistake in franchise history makes me think he has been following the Dolphins only thru the Saban years. If Culpepper comes back next season and is the Culpepper of old -- this wont be discussed anymore... I think it's pretty obvious to us now that C'Pep wasnt ready. He is a gamer though and tried. whatever.....

I think he was actually saying "our team dropped the ball on Brees a long time before Saban ever came to town" more than anything in that post.

That being said, nobody knows that the success Brees is having in New Orleans would translate into success with the Dolphins. There's really no point in second-guessing, so let's just move forward.

finserg
12-02-2006, 01:24 PM
I stop watching the saints when they won his 4th game...A dam shame and a major F@@@ up from doctors and staff..oh well i still hope c-pep can recover and prove us all wrong next year , as for joey i dont see him staying around in 2008 or if he gets benched next year for c-pep. He wants to be a starter and will probably will want to get traded.

bigchub22
12-02-2006, 01:46 PM
WORST MOVE IN FRANCHISE HISTORY? HAHAHAHA SHAKING HEAD SHAKING HEAD ......Thats just ridiculous man plain and simple

gofins
12-02-2006, 01:51 PM
It's too early to tell. The report that was released recently said that Brees' injury was a full labrum tear (much worse than originally stated). I've asked a few medical professionals and every one of them said that the long term prognosis for a QB with that injury is horrible and that passing on a QB with that injury was obvious. Brees may beat the odds (and I hope he does) but signing a QB with that injury to a big money contract is the wrong choice 99.9% of the time.
Thanks. Saves me the trouble of typing that. I want to bookmark the link to the original post that states this so I can just copy and paste it every time someone starts a "we should have gotten Brees" thread.

Geforce
12-02-2006, 01:57 PM
Yeah, how quickly we forget that Drew Brees received $10 Million from New Orleans this year to play. With all the holes on this team that need fixing, there in no way we were going to pay Brees that much.

aleta
12-02-2006, 01:58 PM
I stop watching the saints when they won his 4th game...A dam shame and a major F@@@ up from doctors and staff..oh well i still hope c-pep can recover and prove us all wrong next year , as for joey i dont see him staying around in 2008 or if he gets benched next year for c-pep. He wants to be a starter and will probably will want to get traded.

That's went we are going to have a HUGE extra pick in the draf (maybe a second rounder), we will have a healthy DQ, it will be great next year. By the way, there is something wrong with this thread, it is like if i go to a casino and seat next to the one who won the lottery, nobody knows the future. After you see the balls, you notices it was a male.

Bonedoc7777
12-02-2006, 01:58 PM
I have seen over 100 of these cases and Drew Brees will not be a long term solution for anybody, his shoulder will become unstable and arthritic with the type of activity he is involved with, 2 to 5 years is what you will get and he will be finished

Frankie629
12-02-2006, 02:02 PM
It's too early to tell. The report that was released recently said that Brees' injury was a full labrum tear (much worse than originally stated). I've asked a few medical professionals and every one of them said that the long term prognosis for a QB with that injury is horrible and that passing on a QB with that injury was obvious. Brees may beat the odds (and I hope he does) but signing a QB with that injury to a big money contract is the wrong choice 99.9% of the time.


I'll tell you what he's one TOUGH s.o.b. I have a torn labrum ( havent had the surgery yet ) and its EXTREMELY painful...Oh and another thing you cant really repair a torn labrum...

Bonedoc7777
12-02-2006, 02:12 PM
Like every other athlete these surgeries buy them time to play and make more money, they dont fix them, he is damaged goods and not signing him was the right thing to do when he is a QB who uses his shoulder about ten thousand times a year throwing in practice, throwing in games. If phin fans want someone for a couple years he was the right guy, he will not finish his contract out with that injury. We need to build for the long term because our division is doing just that

BALLS DEEP
12-02-2006, 02:15 PM
Brees should have been our Qb since he was drafted. However he isn't. Not much we can do about it now besides crying over spilt milk.

Finsfan 13
12-02-2006, 02:17 PM
I could understand why we are all mad. But Brees was coming off a shoulder injury and C-Pep was coming off a knee injury. I mean Saban thought Brees would never be the same.

Metal Panda
12-02-2006, 02:24 PM
Drew Brees should be our quarterback.....Let's face it, Saban boned us for years to come. We are not making the playoffs(I HOPE WE DO) and Brees will and might win MVP. I can't understand how everyone is happy with Joey. QB should have been solved with Brees for the next 5 years but we will be looking for a QB again next year. Picking Culpepper over Brees has to be dubbed one of, if not the worst move in franchise history. And don't tell me that Culpepper was not healthy, he sucks. Watch a Saints game and tell me if you get as sick to your stomach watching Brees as I do. Sorry for the rant.

How quickly we forget that Brees failed his physical examination with the Miami Dolphins, or that whispers around the league, including an article written by Pete Prisco, indicated that Brees was not likely to be ready to start the season due to his shoulder.

I was all for getting Brees myself, initially. However, I was not disappointed with Daunte either, and I think he made the right move knowing what he knew at the time.

As far as not telling you Culpepper wasn't healthy, absolutely keep deluding yourself into believing he didn't just have surgery to remove a piece of moving cartilage in his knee that was causing extreme pain. And deluding yourself into believing that sportscasters in one game did not show his throwing motion in 2006 versus his motion in 2004 and noting that due to the knee problem there was a DEFINITE difference.

Your post is funny because it clearly resembles the old tired cliche 'Hindsight is 20/20'.

Metal Panda
12-02-2006, 02:27 PM
LOL,

I doubt that anyone saw that (Brees) coming. Back then when the decision had to be made, I think most people would have taken a shot at C-Pep over Brees. I'll take a QB coming off a knee injury over paying a QB 10 mil a year that is coming off a shoulder injury. When the decisions were made, Brees still couldn't throw and thats a huge gamble + with the Dolphins in cap hell, if it backfired........it wouldn't have been pretty. It would have been a huge setback.

After saying that, if both were healthy, I'd take Brees over C-Pep anyday. I'am not a C-Pep fan and never have been, but I'am not here to bash him. With his injury, his got a free pass on this year.

You are absolutely correct.

Besides the obvious injury problem, there were sportswriters and scouts a plenty indicating that Brees was nothing more than a "system quarterback" and would fail in New Orleans.

To the initial poster of this thread--Go ahead and tell me you expected 3400 passing yards in 11 games from Brees. What's that, Pinnochio?

kud
12-02-2006, 02:41 PM
Isn't it fun to dwell on what could have been.

Metal Panda
12-02-2006, 02:46 PM
Let's be honest--would Brees have been able to put up those gargantuan numbers with Miami?

I doubt it. The offensive line wasn't holding blocks at all early in the year. Miami's OLs have been QB killers ever since Webb and Donalley left after 2000.

I never bought into the "Brian Griese was a great QB but never got a chance in Miami" bit since he was mediocre in Denver too, but I still don't think he was necessarily as bad as his numbers in Miami that year (altho they still were crap)

FinsNCanes
12-02-2006, 03:17 PM
Then again next year if Culpepper is healthy and lighting it up everyone will be singing a different tune. I'l give Culpepper one more year before I throw him under the bus. This "might" be a blessing in disguise. While his *** is sitting on the sidelines he can just read, read, read, and read some more.

PyroDOLFAN
12-02-2006, 03:25 PM
We could put posts up all day whining about the situation but it is not going to change. and personnely i would rather have CP onour team than brees. When he gets healhty we will see what he can do for us. CP actually wanted to be here unlike brees who wanted to go to the highest payer. stick with the guys who play for the game not eh money, like Farve.

P.S. don't bring up the whole "he wanted 111 million dollar contract" he knew he'd be denied so he could go to anothor team. He even said his dream was to play for the Dolphins in College.

steveincolorado
12-02-2006, 03:51 PM
Isn't it fun to dwell on what could have been.

Yep!
We could have had Tom Brady in 2000 for only a 6th round pick as well:D

bakedmatt
12-02-2006, 04:25 PM
Drew Brees should be our quarterback.....Let's face it, Saban boned us for years to come. We are not making the playoffs(I HOPE WE DO) and Brees will and might win MVP. I can't understand how everyone is happy with Joey. QB should have been solved with Brees for the next 5 years but we will be looking for a QB again next year. Picking Culpepper over Brees has to be dubbed one of, if not the worst move in franchise history. And don't tell me that Culpepper was not healthy, he sucks. Watch a Saints game and tell me if you get as sick to your stomach watching Brees as I do. Sorry for the rant.

I don't like you.

INPHINITY
12-02-2006, 04:45 PM
Uhhh, O.K.

maverick50
12-02-2006, 04:48 PM
i dont how bringing this up now helps . joey needs our suport and i am a dolphin fan through and through. why didnt we keep wanny , he was sure to bring us more high quality games?:shakeno:

Slappy8800
12-02-2006, 04:56 PM
whos to say he would have been successful here?

Mike13
12-02-2006, 05:49 PM
With the way our Ol played in the first half of the season, the results could have been similar.

Colorado Dolfan
12-02-2006, 06:34 PM
whos to say he would have been successful here?

:yeahthat: