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Rocky Raccoon
12-04-2006, 02:38 PM
just heard it on the radio. He just held a PC and announced it. Good for him, I'm glad he's staying :)

Motion
12-04-2006, 02:39 PM
:woot: Good for him.

Oboy
12-04-2006, 02:39 PM
Guess UM turns internal...

Timmy54
12-04-2006, 02:44 PM
good for him, bad for UM, not a bunch of big name out there right now

NJFINSFAN1
12-04-2006, 02:47 PM
He has been saying it for weeks. But he told the AD at Miami today, no thanks.

Alex44
12-04-2006, 02:55 PM
Whatever now we just hire Randy Shannon :yes: who I think is going to be one hell of a head coach.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
12-04-2006, 02:59 PM
good for rutgers. :)

kpcane
12-04-2006, 03:04 PM
Thank you Greg Schiano for not allowing Paul Dee to make ANOTHER bad decision!! Time to bring on Randy!

I was reading somewhere else that Randy has actually already been hired, and that Neinas is just helping us bring in an OC for Shannon. That doesn't explain why they'd go after Schiano though. Hopefully just to throw people off, or try to please the alumni calling for Schiano.

Pennington's Rocket Arm
12-04-2006, 03:12 PM
why would schiano be a bad decision?

kpcane
12-04-2006, 03:20 PM
because Randy Shannon is the better choice.

NJFINSFAN1
12-04-2006, 03:24 PM
because Randy Shannon is the better choice.

Based on what????

Pennington's Rocket Arm
12-04-2006, 03:26 PM
:lol: who knows..

Alex44
12-04-2006, 03:27 PM
Based on what????

Well Im not sure what proof there would be to show but I do think Shannon is going to be a very very very good head coach, possibly even great. Kids really love him, he has good ties with high school coaches down here, and he really gets his guys fired up.

Im fine with missing out on Schiano.

kpcane
12-04-2006, 03:28 PM
Based on what????

He'd recruit South Florida better...yes he would, don't even bother arguing that jersey man.

He's from the U - he's played here and won a national title, he's been the defensive coordinator here and won a national title. He knows what it takes to win at the U.

He's had success for an extended period of time. Nobody knows whether Schiano is a having a fluke season.

NJFINSFAN1
12-04-2006, 03:29 PM
Well Im not sure what proof there would be to show but I do think Shannon is going to be a very very very good head coach, possibly even great. Kids really love him, he has good ties with high school coaches down here, and he really gets his guys fired up.

Im fine with missing out on Schiano.

That's fine, but you can't just say he is a better choice, he has not done anything as a head coach yet. That's just my point.

kpcane
12-04-2006, 03:31 PM
That's fine, but you can't just say he is a better choice, he has not done anything as a head coach yet. That's just my point.

Neither did Lou Saban, Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, Dennis Erickson, Butch Davis, and (oh what the hell) Larry Coker.

NJFINSFAN1
12-04-2006, 03:32 PM
He'd recruit South Florida better...yes he would, don't even bother arguing that jersey man.

He's from the U - he's played here and won a national title, he's been the defensive coordinator here and won a national title. He knows what it takes to win at the U.

He's had success for an extended period of time. Nobody knows whether Schiano is a having a fluke season.

Ahhh, Didin't Schiano have a very good run at UM as a defensive Cord???

Ahhh, isn't Schiano recruiting Florida very well?????

Ahhh, Schiano took a graveyard and has them in back to back bowls and is signing some of the nations top recruits.

If you want Shannon, that's fine, by Schiano would have been a great choice, I'm just glad he was smart enought to see the mess in Miami.

kpcane
12-04-2006, 03:49 PM
Ahhh, Didin't Schiano have a very good run at UM as a defensive Cord???

Yeah for a whopping two years.


Ahhh, isn't Schiano recruiting Florida very well?????

Yeah he's cleaning up on the two star recruits. Shannon on the other hand, recruits guys like Brandon Meriweather, Kenny Phillips, Jon Beason, Baraka Atkins...you know, 4 and 5 star recruits.


Ahhh, Schiano took a graveyard and has them in back to back bowls and is signing some of the nations top recruits.

Like who? Piscataway has the number one OT in the country, and I'll be shocked if Schiano can bring him in.


If you want Shannon, that's fine, by Schiano would have been a great choice, I'm just glad he was smart enought to see the mess in Miami.

I'd bet money that a Randy Shannon coached UM team ends up in a more prestigious bowl than Rutgers next year.

NJPHIN34
12-04-2006, 03:50 PM
Thank You Schiano!!

finswin56
12-04-2006, 03:51 PM
Well Im not sure what proof there would be to show but I do think Shannon is going to be a very very very good head coach, possibly even great. Kids really love him, he has good ties with high school coaches down here, and he really gets his guys fired up.

Im fine with missing out on Schiano.Sounds a lot like Larry Coker.

kpcane
12-04-2006, 03:53 PM
Sounds a lot like Larry Coker.

Yeah Coker was a real firecracker.

NJFINSFAN1
12-04-2006, 04:01 PM
Yeah for a whopping two years.



Yeah he's cleaning up on the two star recruits. Shannon on the other hand, recruits guys like Brandon Meriweather, Kenny Phillips, Jon Beason, Baraka Atkins...you know, 4 and 5 star recruits.



Like who? Piscataway has the number one OT in the country, and I'll be shocked if Schiano can bring him in.



I'd bet money that a Randy Shannon coached UM team ends up in a more prestigious bowl than Rutgers next year.

:sidelol: , boy take off the hurricane glasses, you guys can't see beyond the Orange Bowl.:lol:

NJFINSFAN1
12-04-2006, 04:02 PM
Sounds a lot like Larry Coker.

Yep, that program needs a clean slate, and not just from the coaches, the trouble starts from the School President down to the AD first.

nyjunc
12-04-2006, 04:04 PM
From what I have heard schiano wants the PSU job after paterno retires. IF RU struggles the next couple of years and he cost himself a shot at PSU then he'll regret moving up to an elite 1A program but as long as RU is good he'll get the PSU job and try to bring them back which will be alot more difficult than bringing UM back.

Coral Reefer
12-04-2006, 04:29 PM
Thank you Greg Schiano for not allowing Paul Dee to make ANOTHER bad decision!! Time to bring on Randy!

I was reading somewhere else that Randy has actually already been hired, and that Neinas is just helping us bring in an OC for Shannon. That doesn't explain why they'd go after Schiano though. Hopefully just to throw people off, or try to please the alumni calling for Schiano.

I get the feeling you're just trying save some face for UM here. I don't see how you can possibly see Schiano as a bad candidate. I'm a UM fan and I can admit that even though he turned us down that he would have been a huge hire.

The guy has singlehandedly turned around what was a complete joke of a program and made them a contender in the Big East. He also recruited a lot of Florida recruits up there so it's clear he can recruit very well.

Shannon scares me personally.
I don't want him as HC.
He's has been just as guilty of lacking to make in game adjustments on the defensive side of the ball as the offense has been.

UM needs new blood at HC period and Schiano would have been a steal.

Oboy
12-04-2006, 04:33 PM
Actually I heard from a guy at work that Rutgers has a new contract for Schiano that is 10 years $20 Mil.

Which if that is the case, why leave? He'll be getting the same $ as UM was offering, but with half the pressure to win. Shoot is a hero in NJ after this season with ONLY 2 losses. IF he were at UM, 2 losses and the fans would be calling for his head!

nyjunc
12-04-2006, 05:13 PM
Actually I heard from a guy at work that Rutgers has a new contract for Schiano that is 10 years $20 Mil.

Which if that is the case, why leave? He'll be getting the same $ as UM was offering, but with half the pressure to win. Shoot is a hero in NJ after this season with ONLY 2 losses. IF he were at UM, 2 losses and the fans would be calling for his head!

he can get paid at Rutgers but he can't win titles at Rutgers. he can also get paid at Miami or PSU and win Titles.

Crowder52
12-04-2006, 05:47 PM
he can get paid at Rutgers but he can't win titles at Rutgers. he can also get paid at Miami or PSU and win Titles.

I would argue it would be easier to win a title coming from the Big East than it would from the Big-10 or ACC. Less competition. Let's face it, if Rutgers went undefeated this season it's hard to imagine them not being in the argument for the title game.

ChambersWI
12-04-2006, 06:13 PM
it's kind of funny watching everybody all of a sudden turn their back on Schiano.

If I was the U's president, I go after the USF coach.

Alex44
12-04-2006, 06:28 PM
Sounds a lot like Larry Coker.

Not really they are two completely different people and coaches.

Even this year when the team was 6-6 and the whole season was down the drain he still kept his unit tough enough to be the number 2 Defense in the ACC and top 10 in the country.

DonShula84
12-04-2006, 06:32 PM
Tony Soprano made him an offer he couldnt refuse. Kind of surprised he turned down the U, glad he did though.

nyjunc
12-04-2006, 08:00 PM
I would argue it would be easier to win a title coming from the Big East than it would from the Big-10 or ACC. Less competition. Let's face it, if Rutgers went undefeated this season it's hard to imagine them not being in the argument for the title game.

Even if RU went undefeated they still wouldn't have made the title game. That wouldn't happen in the ACC, w/ 1 loss he'd have a better shot of making the title game at UM than unbeaten at RU.

305TillIDie
12-04-2006, 08:01 PM
sign Randy up :yes:

get Leach in here as a OC or something

FinsNYanksFan13
12-04-2006, 08:03 PM
Right now Schiano won't regret his decision but 5 years from now Schiano is going to be kicking himself in the *** for this decision!

Ronnie Bass
12-04-2006, 09:06 PM
Yeah for a whopping two years.

I really don't think you can contradict yourself anymore than you did here. You want everyone to believe Shannon is a sure thing as a HC without any experience as one, but then you dismiss Schiano because he's only done it for two years.


OMG, could you be any funnier unintentionally??

:sidelol:

Ronnie Bass
12-04-2006, 09:07 PM
he can get paid at Rutgers but he can't win titles at Rutgers. he can also get paid at Miami or PSU and win Titles.

They play in the BCS, yes he can, don't be ridiculous.

nyjunc
12-04-2006, 09:09 PM
They play in the BCS, yes he can, don't be ridiculous.

He's not winning titles at Rutgers. Let's get serious. They had a nice year in a terrible conference. Their conf and non-conf sched will keep them back. they play no one outside the conference and everything broke right for them this year. they won't sneak up on people anymore. They will never play for a Nat'l Title. this was the worst year of CFB I have ever seen and RU had their best year ever and still couldn't reach a BCS Bowl.

Ronnie Bass
12-04-2006, 09:18 PM
He's not winning titles at Rutgers. Let's get serious. They had a nice year in a terrible conference. Their conf and non-conf sched will keep them back. they play no one outside the conference and everything broke right for them this year. they won't sneak up on people anymore. They will never play for a Nat'l Title. this was the worst year of CFB I have ever seen and RU had their best year ever and still couldn't reach a BCS Bowl.

What?? Not even close.

And what makes you think that the Big East will stop improving? Please answer that.

There weren't any real great teams like USC, Michigan and Ohio St in the Big East this year but there were some very good teams and a lot of upcoming teams as well, to think this is going to be the status quo every year is incredibly presumptuous by you.

There is NO reason why the Big East can't keep on getting stronger and strengthen their status with the BCS, none.

nyjunc
12-04-2006, 09:23 PM
What?? Not even close.

And what makes you think that the Big East will stop improving? Please answer that.

There weren't any real great teams like USC, Michigan and Ohio St in the Big East this year but there were some very good teams and a lot of upcoming teams as well, to think this is going to be the status quo every year is incredibly presumptuous by you.

There is NO reason why the Big East can't keep on getting stronger and strengthen their status with the BCS, none.

We'll see. Historically Luisville and WVu are programs that are off and on, a few good years here and a few years down. The BE doesn't ahve that marquee team that is a top team nearly every year. Rodriguez my leave WVU, petrino may leave UL, Schiano isn't leaving RU YET but he will. The BE wasn't a great league when Miami and VT were there and great, it's certainy not going to be great w/o them. it was better than expected but alot of that had to do w/ 3 good teams beating up on the bottom of the conf. RU and WVU played nobody outside the conf and each still lost 2 games. Don't confuse mdiocrity w/ greatness, the BE had 3 GOOD teams an no great teams in a very down year for CFB.

Ronnie Bass
12-04-2006, 09:55 PM
We'll see. Historically Luisville and WVu are programs that are off and on, a few good years here and a few years down. The BE doesn't ahve that marquee team that is a top team nearly every year. Rodriguez my leave WVU, petrino may leave UL, Schiano isn't leaving RU YET but he will. The BE wasn't a great league when Miami and VT were there and great, it's certainy not going to be great w/o them. it was better than expected but alot of that had to do w/ 3 good teams beating up on the bottom of the conf. RU and WVU played nobody outside the conf and each still lost 2 games. Don't confuse mdiocrity w/ greatness, the BE had 3 GOOD teams an no great teams in a very down year for CFB.

Wow, the fact that you associate Louisville, WVU and RU with mediocrity just about says it all.

Seriously man, get off your hate trip for the Big East, it's discrediting you with your obvious biased opinion of them.

And if you followed any kind of history with College sports you would know there was a time that no one really thought that the state of Florida would host three legit bigtime football programs or that when the Big East was formed for basketball that it would become the monster that it has, nothing is a certainty in sports, the USSR hockey team learned that the hard way in 1980 didn't they?

Stop thinking you know for certainty what is going to happen even if you try to base it on the past and present, becauase you don't know, no one does. And if you told me you don't think he can win titles because this and that I might debate you on it but at least I could respect it, but to say you know for certain it can't be done is just being ignorant man. No disrespect, I'm just being honest.

I'm a hockey fan and if 15 years ago you told me that the Stanely Cup would be captured by two teams from the South back to back years, I would bet you everything I had it wouldn't.

And not for a second would I even think I could lose that bet.

kpcane
12-04-2006, 09:56 PM
I really don't think you can contradict yourself anymore than you did here. You want everyone to believe Shannon is a sure thing as a HC without any experience as one, but then you dismiss Schiano because he's only done it for two years.


OMG, could you be any funnier unintentionally??

:sidelol:

It's quite clear that I was talking about Schiano's two years as UM's defensive coordinator, not about his time at Rutgers as a head coach.

So you can stop laughing now.

Ronnie Bass
12-04-2006, 09:57 PM
It's quite clear that I was talking about Schiano's two years as UM's defensive coordinator, not about his time at Rutgers as a head coach.

So you can stop laughing now.

Your right, my bad. Read it too fast.

NJPHIN34
12-04-2006, 10:14 PM
Even if RU went undefeated they still wouldn't have made the title game. That wouldn't happen in the ACC, w/ 1 loss he'd have a better shot of making the title game at UM than unbeaten at RU.

IF Rutgers went undefeated I'm not so sure they wouldn't have been at least a strong consideration for the NC game. After the Louisville win, the computers had Rutgers ranked at number 2. It was the coaches and AP polls that were around 7 or 8, which averaged out to a 6th place ranking. IF RU went undefeated they would have beaten 2 top 25 teams, and 4 bowl eligible teams. The computers already had RU ranked pretty high at the time of the Louisville win, so really if RU would have won their final games, the only thing holding them back would have been people like you who can't believe Rutgers was in the national championship conversation and would refuse to give credit where credit's due. The coaches and AP poll would have had no choice to have put RU in the top 3 if they went 12-0, especially with the way things played out at the end of this season with USC losing and all. If RU wins out, the computers rank them at 2 and possibly 1, yes 1 you heard right. When RU was ranked 2 by the computers, Mich was 1 and OSU was 3. So it would have been feasible for RU to be 1 and OSU 2. So don't be ingnorant and say RU will never have a chance to win the national championship. It's as simple as this: if you go undefeated in a BCS conference then you should undoubtedly play in the NC game. Hell, look at what game Boise State is playing in after they went undefeated in a non BCS conference.

nyjunc
12-05-2006, 07:38 AM
Wow, the fact that you associate Louisville, WVU and RU with mediocrity just about says it all.

Seriously man, get off your hate trip for the Big East, it's discrediting you with your obvious biased opinion of them.

And if you followed any kind of history with College sports you would know there was a time that no one really thought that the state of Florida would host three legit bigtime football programs or that when the Big East was formed for basketball that it would become the monster that it has, nothing is a certainty in sports, the USSR hockey team learned that the hard way in 1980 didn't they?

Stop thinking you know for certainty what is going to happen even if you try to base it on the past and present, becauase you don't know, no one does. And if you told me you don't think he can win titles because this and that I might debate you on it but at least I could respect it, but to say you know for certain it can't be done is just being ignorant man. No disrespect, I'm just being honest.

I'm a hockey fan and if 15 years ago you told me that the Stanely Cup would be captured by two teams from the South back to back years, I would bet you everything I had it wouldn't.

And not for a second would I even think I could lose that bet.


You think the top 3 in the BE were great teams? Give me the big time wins besides beating each other? there's not a quality non-conf win amongst the 3.

What the heck does hockey have to do w/ anything? Why wouldanyone think a Southern hockey team couldnt' win it all? It's not like the players come from the areas they play. a team from the South has the same opportunity to win as a team from anywhere else.

nyjunc
12-05-2006, 07:39 AM
IF Rutgers went undefeated I'm not so sure they wouldn't have been at least a strong consideration for the NC game. After the Louisville win, the computers had Rutgers ranked at number 2. It was the coaches and AP polls that were around 7 or 8, which averaged out to a 6th place ranking. IF RU went undefeated they would have beaten 2 top 25 teams, and 4 bowl eligible teams. The computers already had RU ranked pretty high at the time of the Louisville win, so really if RU would have won their final games, the only thing holding them back would have been people like you who can't believe Rutgers was in the national championship conversation and would refuse to give credit where credit's due. The coaches and AP poll would have had no choice to have put RU in the top 3 if they went 12-0, especially with the way things played out at the end of this season with USC losing and all. If RU wins out, the computers rank them at 2 and possibly 1, yes 1 you heard right. When RU was ranked 2 by the computers, Mich was 1 and OSU was 3. So it would have been feasible for RU to be 1 and OSU 2. So don't be ingnorant and say RU will never have a chance to win the national championship. It's as simple as this: if you go undefeated in a BCS conference then you should undoubtedly play in the NC game. Hell, look at what game Boise State is playing in after they went undefeated in a non BCS conference.


Auburn was undefeated in a top conference and didn't make it 2 years ago.

Coral Reefer
12-05-2006, 11:19 AM
You think the top 3 in the BE were great teams? Give me the big time wins besides beating each other? there's not a quality non-conf win amongst the 3.

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That's a great point and my problem with the whole thing.

The hypocrisy of all of them ripping Boise State on the same issue is simply amazing too!

I'm not about ripping the programs and saying they aren't good teams but when they start talking about deserving NC opportunities over teams that are playing tough schedules it becomes absurd to me.

Ronnie Bass
12-05-2006, 08:34 PM
You think the top 3 in the BE were great teams? Give me the big time wins besides beating each other? there's not a quality non-conf win amongst the 3.

When did I say they were great? Now your putting words in my mouth.



What the heck does hockey have to do w/ anything? Why wouldanyone think a Southern hockey team couldnt' win it all? It's not like the players come from the areas they play. a team from the South has the same opportunity to win as a team from anywhere else.

You not getting the point man, there is no certainty in sports, I think this went over your head.

But keep on bashing the Big East if it makes ya happy man.

Mike13
12-05-2006, 10:24 PM
I'd bet money that a Randy Shannon coached UM team ends up in a more prestigious bowl than Rutgers next year

Nothing is a gimme.

Hell he could turn that team around in a year or more who knows.
Chances ae they'll go for Shannon though.

nyjunc
12-06-2006, 08:20 AM
When did I say they were great? Now your putting words in my mouth.



You not getting the point man, there is no certainty in sports, I think this went over your head.

But keep on bashing the Big East if it makes ya happy man.


The BE was alot better w/ UM and VT and it still wasn't a good league back then. Why would I expect them to be better that those years int he coming years?