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Amars
12-10-2006, 05:25 PM
As much as ragged on Vince Young before the Rose Bowl game against USC he has proved to me that he is the best QB that have come out of the draft. The guy is a absolute stud. He single handly won the NC in college and in the pros he has just amazed me. I have totally converted into a Vince Young fan. He just seems so calm no matter what the situation is and just know how to play to win the game. His stats are not as pretty as premier QB but I appreciate his style of playing the game to win. My vote will be for him.


Edit: I meant ROY not MVP. Little buzzed after the dolphins win.

byroan
12-10-2006, 05:28 PM
I don't even think he's rookie of the year.

Vertical Limit
12-10-2006, 05:29 PM
Ladainian Tomlinson is running away with the MVP, but Vince Young is Rookie of the Year, no doubt.

HysterikiLL
12-10-2006, 05:30 PM
My favorite college player of all time. The memories he gave me as a Texas fan the last few years..

..and what he's done in the NFL this past few weeks has been nothing short of incredible.

I think he is one of the most valuable players to a team, but the award really don't seek to honor the 'most valuable player'. It seeks to honor the best invididual player. Vince has proven his value by WINNING, and there's not much more one can do. He is 6-4 as a starter on a team that was 0-3 before he came in and pretty much sucked.

I probably wouldn't give him MVP just because there are other guys (LT) a little more deserving, but certainly he is a ROY frontrunner and I can see him in a few years raising that super bowl like he did that Rose Bowl last seasn.

Tx Dolfan
12-10-2006, 05:37 PM
He was my 4th fav Horn behind R. Williams, Benson and Roy Williams, but even I have to admit I didn't think he'd be able to play this well in his first season. I'm glad he's proving a lot of his doubters wrong.

Amars
12-10-2006, 05:37 PM
Sorry I edited it. I meant ROY not MVP. Im a little buzz after this great win. I think LT deserve MVP.

Brown42000
12-10-2006, 06:00 PM
After these past few games Vince Young definitly does deserve ROY.

marino1348
12-10-2006, 06:06 PM
Vince has been a major part of three stragiht comebacks for the titans. He is extremely calm under pressure. The guy is awesome on third downs. In case you didn't know, he scored 39TD run in Overtime on 3 and 14. I remember countless experts saying he wouldnt be able to do anything like that in the pros. And most also said he'd take 2-3 to develop to a point he could start. The Titans would be 3-10 or 4-9 with out him. The Titans would have a much better record if Kerry Collins didnt start and suck so much.

One of his many critics has been Merrill Hoge. And here a video that makes him look silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDahCWm0oVg

COMEBACKRICKY
12-10-2006, 06:15 PM
i love vince... and this is coming from an aggie.

gillderais
12-10-2006, 06:20 PM
Think anyone regrets not taking Vince in Houston? :chuckle:

Link to Video of Vince's latest TD
Enjoy!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1809288748701989371

COMEBACKRICKY
12-10-2006, 06:27 PM
Think anyone regrets not taking Vince in Houston? :chuckle:

Link to Video of Vince's latest TD
Enjoy!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1809288748701989371


LMAO nooo whats funnier is all the dolphins fans that said if he fell to 16 they wouldnt take him! evreyone gave me hell for saying that would be the steal of the draft.

Tx Dolfan
12-10-2006, 06:32 PM
Think anyone regrets not taking Vince in Houston? :chuckle:

Link to Video of Vince's latest TD
Enjoy!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1809288748701989371

You should check out the Texans message board. The board crashed not even a minute after he scored. :lol:

Dors156
12-10-2006, 06:42 PM
Vince or maurice jones drew will get ROTY.but imo vince should get it with four straight comeback victorys

Roman529
12-10-2006, 07:21 PM
You're forgetting about Reggie Bush of the Saints..he will be ROY.

byroan
12-10-2006, 08:18 PM
I like Marques Colston for ROY myself. You can't get that kind of production from a WR drafted in the 1st let alone the 7th round.

Pink_Dove
12-10-2006, 08:23 PM
I'd give it to Young based on the impact he's had on his team. It goes far beyond the stats, he's energized that team. I also think Colston has benefited from Horn and Bush from Deuce. Meanwhile, VY is stuck on the talentless Titans offense, throwing to Bobby Wade and Drew Bennett. I can't wait to see what he does once he has a legit number 1 and number 2 receiver.

HysterikiLL
12-10-2006, 08:44 PM
You're forgetting about Reggie Bush of the Saints..he will be ROY.

Reggie is awesome, but c'mon Romie, other than that 4 td game, what has he done?

Roman529
12-10-2006, 09:35 PM
Reggie is awesome, but c'mon Romie, other than that 4 td game, what has he done?

He's turned a crappy team into a playoff team....that's what he's done.

DolfanDaveInATX
12-10-2006, 09:58 PM
He's turned a crappy team into a playoff team....that's what he's done.

Marques Colston has had a far greater impact on the Saints than Reggie Bush. Prior to his ankle sprain, he was leading the entire league in receiving yards and had 7 TD's. In fact, his development allowed the Saints to trade Donte' Stallworth to Philadelphia in exchange for a starting LB and a third-round pick. Bush has caught a lot of short passes but is only getting 3.1 ypc.

The Rookie of the Year race is between Colston and Young.

Amars
12-10-2006, 10:04 PM
He's turned a crappy team into a playoff team....that's what he's done.


I like Reggie Bush just as much as you but the saints had a overhaul starting with the head coach, Drew Brees and Duece back from injury.

Martel
12-10-2006, 10:42 PM
I think Vince will definitely win the Cy Young

finfansince72
12-10-2006, 10:47 PM
Reggie is awesome, but c'mon Romie, other than that 4 td game, what has he done?

He has 73 receptions on the year. Hes not running that great but hes certainly making a impact on the Saints.

wazzy
12-10-2006, 10:49 PM
Vince Young is overachieving right now! He will be brought down to level soon with a bad game! If not, someone can put this in my face by quoting me but I think people our getting to high of hopes sinces hes come up with some huge games!

spydertl79
12-10-2006, 10:55 PM
IMO Colston still leads the ROY race.

daniel3
12-10-2006, 11:20 PM
Vince Young is overachieving right now! He will be brought down to level soon with a bad game! If not, someone can put this in my face by quoting me but I think people our getting to high of hopes sinces hes come up with some huge games!
Young isn't overachieving, you just have a very incorrect analysis of his skills and talent. He's pretty much doing the same thing he did in college, its just that people thought it wouldn't work in the NFL, but suprise surprise it does. Once he gets the playbook down and has a more natural feel for the flow of an NFL level game, he will be a very decent QB. Not to mention it wouldn't hurt for the Titans to get more talented players on that offense, particularly at the RB, OL, and TE positions. NFL is too competitive for it to continuously be a one man show.

finswin56
12-10-2006, 11:56 PM
I like Marques Colston for ROY myself. You can't get that kind of production from a WR drafted in the 1st let alone the 7th round.Thank you. I can't believe it took 15 posts for someone to remember who this guy is!

HysterikiLL
12-11-2006, 12:51 AM
He's turned a crappy team into a playoff team....that's what he's done.

His 3.1 yards per rush has turned them from a crappy team to a playoff team? Or was that Marques Colston's spectacular play, Deuce McAllister healthy, Drew Brees' MVP caliber season, and Sean Payton's aggressive schemes and play calling that turned them around?

I will concede though, that Bush has been a big part of that team. If he can get a few more TDs, he should be in the ROY mix due to his all-round abilities. At least in the NFC ROY race, but as much as I love Reggie, I still don't think he's been enough to win it on what he has done yet. I guess the difference between Reggie and Vince is that Bush has been surrounded by great players who have helped that team win, and he's been fit into the right situations whereas Vince was thrown into an 0-3 teams QB role and told "go win" with a very little supporting cast.

Majpain
12-11-2006, 01:21 AM
ROY is Colston.

305TillIDie
12-11-2006, 01:24 AM
Jones-Drew, Colston, Bush & Young..ill give it to any one of them :yes:

Majpain
12-11-2006, 02:09 AM
Jones-Drew is Barry Sanders like.

HysterikiLL
12-11-2006, 05:12 AM
Seriously, they might as well have a special teams rookie of the year with all the big play rookies on special teams this year... Bush, Jones-Drew, Hester

Phinz4Life
12-11-2006, 06:29 AM
Uh. Way to show the same set of clips over and over again.

NJFINSFAN1
12-11-2006, 08:43 AM
I like Marques Colston for ROY myself. You can't get that kind of production from a WR drafted in the 1st let alone the 7th round.

Someone else also, but he won't get it because of his position, is Mangold the C on the Jets, he has played great.

Stitches
12-11-2006, 09:18 AM
Someone else also, but he won't get it because of his position, is Mangold the C on the Jets, he has played great.

Same goes for Marcus McNeill.

Motion
12-11-2006, 09:40 AM
Somebody needs to edit the thread title, I busted out laughing when I saw that. :lol:

Pennington's Rocket Arm
12-11-2006, 11:03 AM
drew brees is the clear MVP in my book. young is still only 5-4 as a starter.

daniel3
12-11-2006, 08:37 PM
drew brees is the clear MVP in my book. young is still only 5-4 as a starter.

6-4 :/

unifiedtheory
12-11-2006, 08:48 PM
I like Marques Colston for ROY myself. You can't get that kind of production from a WR drafted in the 1st let alone the 7th round.

15 posts in this thread before someone cut through the hype machine crap and gave the name of the REAL rookie of the year.

Martel
12-11-2006, 08:48 PM
It's between LT, Brees and Welker. These last few games will decide it.

Mr.Majestik
12-12-2006, 02:04 AM
Reggie Bush is not even the best rookie on his own team, let alone ROY material. Colston, Jones-Drew, Young, Addai, Maroney, Ferguson, Lineart, Mangold, or half a dozen other rookies would win ROY before Reggie Bush. Bush has frankly been a huge disappointment. He entered the league with more hype then any player with the possible exception of Michael Vick. No one has been hyped more and delivered less. He was the second overall pick. Signed a $51 mil. contract with $26 mil. in guarantees, and has more endorsements then LaDainian Tomlinson, and for that money and the #2 pick, the Saints got themselves a slot receiver, and not a particularly spectacular one either.

Bush plays the one position that a rookie can dominate. There is no learning curve needed at running back. Premier players at that position come in and dominate immediately, and if they don't, they bust. In fact, there are only two running backs drafted in the first-round in the last two decades to not average at least 4.0 ypc their rookie seasons and ever make a Pro Bowl. Emmitt Smith averaged 3.9 ypc. Garrison Hearst 3.5 ypc. Neither Smith or Hearst played on good offenses their rookie seasons. Bush on the other hand plays on the second-highest scoring offense in the league and he averages a pathetic 3.2 ypc. He's scored 4 TDs rushing the football in 13 games. 3 came in one game. He's doing better as a receiver, averaging 8.7 ypr, with a paltry 2 TDs, but there are at least 12 running backs averaging as much, or more, sometimes much more, including: Tomlinson, Portis, Westbrook, Buckhalter, Larry Johnson, Fred Taylor, and Ronnie Brown. Guys like Tiki Barber, Stephen Jackson, Kevin Jones and Joseph Addei have averages within .2 of Bush. And three other rookies, DeAngelo Williams, Laurence Maroney, and Maurice Drew have much better averages then Reggie Bush catching the ball. Not to mention rushing averages at least a yard a carry better then Bush. The Saints are winning because of Payton, Brees, Colston, McAllister and Horn, Bush barely registers. You know things were going bad for Bush when three weeks ago his head coach was reduced to complimenting his 50 mil. running back on his blocking. Bush has discoved that he can't make a living like he did in college running sweeps against Oregon State, and catching wheel routes against Stanford.