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BLITZKRIEG
05-30-2003, 10:16 AM
This would be great news....

It appears that J. Evans has once again been busted for substance abuse. He says he did not smoke, but the tests are saying otherwise.....

He is now facing a lifetime ban from the NFL, and if he's convicted, his NFL days are all but over.....

WOOOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

PHINZ RULE!!!!:lol: :lol:

PhinsTD
05-30-2003, 10:21 AM
All the JIT players we can get rid of the better.

Do they get a rebate on their cap for his numbers or do they still count?

iceblizzard69
05-30-2003, 10:27 AM
:lol: :rofl:

I remember this guy talking about living in South Florida, and not being able to stand the Fins. That would be hilarious if he gets a lifetime ban from the NFL.

Muck
05-30-2003, 10:27 AM
Unless there was a clause in his contract, no. Still counts.

BigBoy
05-30-2003, 10:37 AM
Sad for Josh, really. And the team, I mean you work so hard to put good people...

AWW WHO AM I KIDDING?!?!?! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

NANNY NANNY BOO BOO!!!!!!!!!!!

J-E-T-S

SUCK
SUCK
SUCK

:party:

FinsGoToGuy
05-30-2003, 10:58 AM
That's not the way you want to loose a player...

dino56
05-30-2003, 11:10 AM
Why do players do these stupid things? To be able to get paid a lot of money to play a game, that is a dream come true. Some of these players need to think more and ask themselves, "What would happen if I do this?"

plc001
05-30-2003, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by FinsGoToGuy
That's not the way you want to loose a player...

Part of the game. When you pick up a player you take a chance that their not complete morons, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. ie Collins and now hopefully Evans.... and with some luck one day, Pennington to :)

zach13
05-30-2003, 11:22 AM
I hate the Jets as much as anyone, but I don't like to see someone go down like this.

Personally, I don't care if they are all high all the time.

PhinPhan1227
05-30-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by dino56
Why do players do these stupid things? To be able to get paid a lot of money to play a game, that is a dream come true. Some of these players need to think more and ask themselves, "What would happen if I do this?"


It's not just just players...people with addictions do stupid things. Heck, if they didn't they wouldn't call it an addiction.

Pagan
05-30-2003, 11:30 AM
I never understood how players could do something like this. It's like Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots. You have a chance at being bigger than life, that most people would give their right arm for, and you blow it. Pretty stupid....

XoPhinsoX
05-30-2003, 12:15 PM
More of a habit then an addiction I'd say..

I don't you should beable to do whatever in your own house personally..

As long as you aren't selling it and using it for personal use I don't see the harm..?

Anyway, what a tard ;p.

Muck
05-30-2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by zachseau13
Personally, I don't care if they are all high all the time.

I do. Not only does it set a poor example to kids and fans, but it's just disrespectful and retarded. Lots of people have a lot money tied up in these players. To the owners, they are an investment. They pay them money and they want the greatest return possible on their investment. The league, networks, and companies w/ endorsment deals with these players also have a vested interest.

Finally, they owe it to US. As fans, we pay good money to see these guys play at their utmost potential. We pay their salaries. We pay for their best and we expect their best.

Simply put, it's in their job description. You apply for a job. There's a strict no-drug policy. You get the job. You better not take drugs.

MDFINFAN
05-30-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Muck


I do. Not only does it set a poor example to kids and fans, but it's just disrespectful and retarded. Lots of people have a lot money tied up in these players. To the owners, they are an investment. They pay them money and they want the greatest return possible on their investment. The league, networks, and companies w/ endorsment deals with these players also have a vested interest.

Finally, they owe it to US. As fans, we pay good money to see these guys play at their utmost potential. We pay their salaries. We pay for their best and we expect their best.

Simply put, it's in their job description. You apply for a job. There's a strict no-drug policy. You get the job. You better not take drugs.

I totally agree..plus our Military is under the same rules and they get paid a whole lot less, and risk a whole lot more....If these young men and women can do it..so should high price Sports performers..But I too like to beat a team at their best, not a watered down version of the team..when you beat the best, you are the best. So I don't like them losing a guy this way either..

zach13
05-30-2003, 01:08 PM
That's great, I respect both of your opinions and there is al ot of validity in what you say.

For myself, I look to the NFL, or any sport for that matter, for entertainment not for heroes. IMO Private Lynch is a hero not a football player.

Just one man's humble opinion.

BeatCrazy2
05-30-2003, 01:22 PM
I think that players can still give their best effort if they do something like drink or smoke weed. As long as they don't do it excessively or put others in danger , then let them do as they please. I agree that it would set a bad example for kids , so make sure you keep it in the privacy of your own home. Any other drugs would be completely different though. Pot is really the only thing I would say is practically harmless.
Anyways, one less jet is always good news. Is that guy any good?

madcow
05-30-2003, 01:53 PM
I'd say Evans is a real solid player, last year he had 40 tackles and 6 sacks along with 2 fumble recoveries. The year before he was with Tennessee and had 77 tackles with 5.5 sacks. He is a starter who is projected to split time with Robertson. Was projected that is, who knows now after he already sat out all of 2000 on suspension.

:lol:

Gaphinfan
05-30-2003, 02:22 PM
Dan Marino is a hero and so is Don Shula!

BigBoy
05-30-2003, 02:24 PM
What he does in his own time is his business. What you forget is that when you are employed by the NFL, NO TIME is your own time! He can smoke all he wants when he retires (which may be a lot sooner than anticipated, considering this) but while the NFL is paying you you play by their rules.

Do I think it's fair? Not really. I'd like for any non-performance enhancing drug to be off the list of drugs tested for. But them's the rules in this league. I mean, it's not like he can claim he didn't know the rules!

Tough luck for the Jets. I hope they freaking implode.

Marino1983
05-30-2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by BLITZKRIEG
This would be great news....

It appears that J. Evans has once again been busted for substance abuse. He says he did not smoke, but the tests are saying otherwise.....

He is now facing a lifetime ban from the NFL, and if he's convicted, his NFL days are all but over.....

WOOOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

PHINZ RULE!!!!:lol: :lol:


:eek: Man with all the problems the jest had losing some key veterans in the early part of the offseason, this has to be the icing on the cake for H Edwards ....

The only way this could be better news is if it happened to a Barfalo jills player !!!! Marino1983

Amars
05-30-2003, 07:35 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0530/1560920.htmlhttp://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0530/1560920.html

Amars
05-30-2003, 07:37 PM
NEW YORK -- New York Jets defensive tackle Josh Evans faces a possible lifetime ban from the NFL after testing positive for marijuana use, The New York Times reported Friday.


The newspaper, citing three people familiar with the results of the NFL-administered test, said Evans denied any violation and has appealed the test results.


"I did not use or smoke marijuana,'' Evans told the newspaper Thursday night. "I didn't smoke, I didn't use marijuana in no type of way.''


Evans, who joined the Jets last season after six years with the Tennessee Titans, has been suspended twice by the league for violating its substance-abuse policy. He missed the first four games in 1999 and was suspended for all of the 2000 season.


Evans, tested up to 10 times a month, signed with the Jets last July, two weeks after winning an appeal to have his third substance-abuse suspension overturned.





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Capt. Dick
05-30-2003, 07:41 PM
Looks to me like he`s addicted to "stupid" pills.

DOLPHAN1
05-30-2003, 09:58 PM
...and the HITS just keeep oon comin'.....

i'm not rooting for anyone that has a problem, he needs help. but the jests just seem to be sinking further and further.

oh yea, so much for that deep D line....:nono:

finsfan4life
05-30-2003, 10:07 PM
Looks like Ricky will complete the tri-fecta against AFC East teams when he rushes for over 200 against the Jets this season.:D

baccarat
05-30-2003, 10:09 PM
I hope he gets help for his abuse problem but it looks like another blow for the Jets.

EddieIrvine13
05-30-2003, 10:15 PM
It looks like DeWayne Robertson will get that start after all...

Dr. Love
05-30-2003, 10:31 PM
Abuse? He just smoked a little, come ON.

Too bad for the jets DL.

finsfan4life
05-30-2003, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Love
Abuse? He just smoked a little, come ON.

Too bad for the jets DL.

I hear what's your saying Dr. Love. However, I can't sympathize with someone who can't stop smoking weed for a little when they're getting paid good money. All I hear from people that smoke marijuana is that it's not addictive. If you can't stop smoking for 8 years, or however long your career is, during brief periods of time, then I can't sympathize with you.

:eat: Someone got the munchies.

brofin
05-31-2003, 03:56 AM
Sucks for him, But it was in his contract.I seem to remember the patriots having a load of problems the year they won the Superbowl......I kept thinking; that the only thing that I was shur of was it was gona be a sorry year for the Pats......Freeagents...who wouldah thunk it?

ckparrothead
05-31-2003, 12:35 PM
I don't feel sorry for Evans either. I know recreational drugs aren't performance-enhancing but you also have to realize that the rules are in place because these guys are role models for young children. Maybe they didn't ask to be role models. But by playing for the NFL and accepting all the glitz and glamor that goes with, you are accepting the job description. Your team doesn't just own you during games and practice. They own your body, and its ability to perform, and what you do on your "own time" like smoking marijuana or drinking alcohol, most certainly affects what your body can do when they get you in practice and in games. Sound unfair? This is why these guys are getting paid millions of dollars while we get by paycheck to paycheck. Go cry me a river.

I don't mind seeing a career end like this at all. In fact, I say good riddance to bad rubbish. I have no sympathy whatsoever for a guy that can't stay clean in the NFL to take advantage of the fame and get your money. Its simple, you violate the rules, you don't make the money. Sometimes there are all kinds of rules that you have to follow or get fired and you may not agree with them but you still have to follow them and don't get to break them and get away with it just because you don't agree. Now he gets to try and make things work in the real world with the rest of us poor schmucks who weren't fortunate enough to be born with the god-given talent that he has.


I totally agree..plus our Military is under the same rules and they get paid a whole lot less, and risk a whole lot more....If these young men and women can do it..so should high price Sports performers..But I too like to beat a team at their best, not a watered down version of the team..when you beat the best, you are the best. So I don't like them losing a guy this way either..

First off about the last statement there, the Jets are losing a guy they knew was a risk. They signed both Larry Webster and Josh Evans for help at DT for bargain basement prices because both were like on step 9 out of 10 of the "you're outta the league" drug track. So they got these two guys helping their team last season for bargain prices because of the drug risks, and now that drug risk is bearing out with Evans so they are paying the price. Its like saying "I don't like seeing the Jets lose Laveraneous Coles because I like beating the team at their best" I mean, they made a decision to allow Coles to leave. As such they made a decision when signing Evans, that they were going to rely on him even though he could be out the door just for being late to a drug testing.

And about the military thing excellent observation. In fact, it has me envisioning some quasi-futuristic world like in those sci-fi movies where somehow we actually do meld professional sports with the military. I mean could you imagine re-naming our military divisions to stuff like "The Sand Snakes" or "Jungle Dragons" and basing them out of various cities, then fans get to watch their raids on like closed-circuit television pay-per-view or somethin, with all kinds of like merchandising and whatnot. Think of the websites, following personnel transactions "Today the Atlanta Slip Knots have traded Lt. John Marshall to the Fort Worth Jar Heads in return for an undisclosed pick in the upcoming 2004 Military Draft. Marshall functioned as a Sniper and had 5 confirmed kills last season."

I'm gonna go buy a jersey right now!

Den54
05-31-2003, 07:47 PM
Top Ten Reasons Why Evans Test came up positive..

#1 "They offered him marijuana as an incentive in his contract!"

#2 "He was hanging out with Santanna Moss and inhaled some smoke and came up positive.."

#3 "It's because he's Black!"

#4 He can't count to 10

#5 He thought it was suppose to be a written test...

#6 He thought it was parsley seeds in his Salad

#7 The off season losses drove him into depression...

#8 "Can't a brother enjoy his Vacation?"

#9 Ok, it wasn't just Santanna....Herm also was smoking...

#10 He didn't want to play for a 4 & 12 team this year anyway!!!


Before you blast me I know its in poor taste. I still found it amusing. Fire away.:D

TerryTate
06-01-2003, 12:12 AM
he reminds me roughly of Demetrius Underwood and Cecil the Diesel Collins, who said in an interview about a year ago that when he gets out (at the time he would be 37, but i think the sentence was reduced since then) he would want to play again....

Collins played well until he broke into a womans house...moron

I dont even have to say anything about Underwood, i guess every team has their group O' idiots

Oh, and Lawrence Phillips lol, boy did JJ take his chances with all these guys....

One less Jet player the better, good thing that there arent any morons on the fins team (at least they havent been spotted)