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chada456
12-28-2006, 10:10 PM
This offseason there are free agents that can improve our OL, LB , and CB positions. I remember last year wanting Julian Peterson or Lavar Arrington but not getting either one bc more money was offered (I believe?). I am sure there are other teams willing to spend a lot of money, so my question is, do we have the money to throw out a huge contract to one (or more than one, but thats probably pushing it) of these high priced players. Where do we stand on the salary cap issue?Anybody with information...
Nate Clements, Asante Samuel, Adalius Thomas, Lance Briggs- one of these playmakers on our Defense would be insane. Dont know the names of the OL, but are any of them worth the money? Or better of getting one in the draft?

dominizzo
12-28-2006, 10:22 PM
ask clumpy

chada456
12-28-2006, 10:24 PM
haha wat? ask who?

emocomputerjock
12-28-2006, 10:29 PM
haha wat? ask who?

Clumpy is our resident cap expert, and CK and Boomer are some of the best evaluators of talent I've ever seen. If you get lucky, one of them will come in here :D

chada456
12-28-2006, 10:35 PM
ooo ok thanx but no "non-expert" knows anything pertaining to the possibility of getting one high-priced free agent?

bigbillshater
12-29-2006, 09:48 AM
In my opinion I would love to sign Clements, Samuel, and Thomas for defence. on offence I would love to sign Randy moss or Terrell Owens if released, but on the line Max Starks would be nice.

PlexGod
01-17-2007, 01:52 PM
there are alot of people to cut and free up some cap room

Mike13
01-17-2007, 02:42 PM
Didn't Briggs say he would like to come here? Or was that just a rumor?

PlexGod
01-17-2007, 02:54 PM
does anyone have like a list of the cap numbers? how much we are paying people and things like that?

Philter25
01-17-2007, 03:07 PM
does anyone have like a list of the cap numbers? how much we are paying people and things like that?

The cap page on Finheaven has been "updated" for like 6 months now.... the Sun Sentinel had a list of players salaries sometime in December which I would search for.

As for where we are, I guess we are 17-19 million under the cap and we can free up another 10 million with "funny money" and getting rid of some contracts.

We are in decent cap standing but we have a lot of FAs to sign.

Philter25
01-17-2007, 03:09 PM
ooo ok thanx but no "non-expert" knows anything pertaining to the possibility of getting one high-priced free agent?

We have the money and the room to get a high priced free agent, but we also need to sign a lot of people for depth. In 2-3 years, we will be done with Jt and ZT's contract so if we sign a high priced FA, we can structure the contract to manipulate where we take the cap hit.

We have no Dline depth, no Oline depth, need LBers, a #1 WR, and help in the secondary so although we do have cap space, a lot of it will be used to sign those players.

MrEd
01-17-2007, 04:57 PM
This offseason there are free agents that can improve our OL, LB , and CB positions. I remember last year wanting Julian Peterson or Lavar Arrington but not getting either one bc more money was offered (I believe?). I am sure there are other teams willing to spend a lot of money, so my question is, do we have the money to throw out a huge contract to one (or more than one, but thats probably pushing it) of these high priced players. Where do we stand on the salary cap issue?Anybody with information...
Nate Clements, Asante Samuel, Adalius Thomas, Lance Briggs- one of these playmakers on our Defense would be insane. Dont know the names of the OL, but are any of them worth the money? Or better of getting one in the draft?

Right now, we are standing on $17mil. But we also will clear $3.1mil by cutting Booker, $4mil by cutting Carter before 3/1, $2mil by cutting Harrington, $2mil by cutting Anderson, and $2mil by cutting James before 3/1 or after 6/1...

Mckinney would clear $4mil but I think we will restructure his contract and clear some of that but keep him.

Thomas will clear anywhere up to $6mil by restructuring his contract and Taylor and Chambers can clear some as well...

We "will" have around $30mil to spend.

Steinbach and Clements should be our main "expensive" players to pursue...with Curtis the WR we should pursue to replace Booker.

If Curtis doesnt sign with us, we should trade a 2nd round pick to OAK for Randy Moss

Then, we can focus the draft on NT, OLB, and depth...:wink:

Philter25
01-17-2007, 05:14 PM
If Curtis doesnt sign with us, we should trade a 2nd round pick to OAK for Randy Moss

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo. This draft is pretty deep at WR and Moss isnt worth a first day pick.....

wazzy
01-17-2007, 06:14 PM
I would trade Booker and a 3rd for Moss rather then cutting him or even just a third for Moss but not a second!

PlexGod
01-17-2007, 06:21 PM
i dont know i hate moss but him and c-pep together with chambers on the other side has got to scare people. if we are going to draft a WR with one of the first 3 picks i would rather waste it to get moss

unifiedtheory
01-17-2007, 06:21 PM
If Curtis doesnt sign with us, we should trade a 2nd round pick to OAK for Randy Moss



Why should we trade a second round pick, in the deepest WR draft in years for an expensive malcontent who is aging very fast?

That would be a HORRIBLE deal. Moss could get straight up cut in the offseason, trading a 2nd for the guy is absurd.

This team is not in any position to be trading draft picks for veteran players.

PlexGod
01-17-2007, 06:23 PM
Right now, we are standing on $17mil. But we also will clear $3.1mil by cutting Booker, $4mil by cutting Carter before 3/1, $2mil by cutting Harrington, $2mil by cutting Anderson, and $2mil by cutting James before 3/1 or after 6/1...

Mckinney would clear $4mil but I think we will restructure his contract and clear some of that but keep him.

Thomas will clear anywhere up to $6mil by restructuring his contract and Taylor and Chambers can clear some as well...

We "will" have around $30mil to spend.

Steinbach and Clements should be our main "expensive" players to pursue...with Curtis the WR we should pursue to replace Booker.

If Curtis doesnt sign with us, we should trade a 2nd round pick to OAK for Randy Moss

Then, we can focus the draft on NT, OLB, and depth...:wink:


i like the way that sounds but we have to cut mckinney.... he sucks and he is not worth the 4 mill.... i would like to keep carter.... ol but good and stays healthy. we should also cut zgonina

PlexGod
01-17-2007, 06:26 PM
does anyone have a full list of this years FA?

miamiron
01-17-2007, 08:30 PM
Dodn't :confused: Briggs say he would like to come here? Or was that just a rumor?

Sorry :sidelol:

Mike13
01-17-2007, 11:18 PM
Sorry :sidelol:

What?

MrEd
01-18-2007, 11:03 AM
i like the way that sounds but we have to cut mckinney.... he sucks and he is not worth the 4 mill.... i would like to keep carter.... ol but good and stays healthy. we should also cut zgonina

id restructure mckinney. also, carter would clear $4mil...id cut him. then, zgonina is a ufa...no need to cut someone who isnt on our roster :wink:

MrEd
01-18-2007, 11:04 AM
does anyone have a full list of this years FA?

footballsfuture.com has them

MrEd
01-18-2007, 11:05 AM
Why should we trade a second round pick, in the deepest WR draft in years for an expensive malcontent who is aging very fast?

That would be a HORRIBLE deal. Moss could get straight up cut in the offseason, trading a 2nd for the guy is absurd.

This team is not in any position to be trading draft picks for veteran players.

no way in hell the raiders cut moss...stop dreaming...

MrEd
01-18-2007, 11:08 AM
I would trade Booker and a 3rd for Moss rather then cutting him or even just a third for Moss but not a second!

do you 'really' believe that oak will give up moss for 'only' a 3rd? if so, go for it...but i think that is wishful thinking...

MrEd
01-18-2007, 11:11 AM
i dont know i hate moss but him and c-pep together with chambers on the other side has got to scare people. if we are going to draft a WR with one of the first 3 picks i would rather waste it to get moss

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally, someone with some common sense here. People crying about "this is a DEEP year for WRs"...:boohoo: have no logic behind there statement...

Makes no sense in drafting a potential "Derek Hagan" again with the 2nd round pick...when you can use that same 2nd rounder to obtain Randy Moss....HELLO???

Mike13
01-18-2007, 12:03 PM
Makes no sense in drafting a potential "Derek Hagan" again with the 2nd round pick...when you can use that same 2nd rounder to obtain Randy Moss....HELLO???

We might have other needs to address with that second rounder.