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Elliott 1
02-07-2007, 09:49 AM
amobi okoye ours #9 This guy is a sick freak and he is only 19
pat willis from Green Bay #16 This guy does everything real well
joe staley from Oakland #33 This guy can immediately conquer the NFL
michael bush from arizona #37 His leg will be totally healed by camp
samson satele ours #40 This guy is vicious! and he is a good long snapper
david clowney ours #71 This guy is fast
jarod zabransky from san fran #140 67% completions and a great athlete
clifton dawson undrafted rookie This guy is smart,a Harvard man

QB-Daunte culpepper,Cleo Lemon,Jarod Zabransky not much money here for QB's
RB-ricky williams,michael bush,clifton dawson really only what we have to pay a 2nd rounder
fb-kyle eckel no money here
wr-hagan,clowney,vick only Hagan's 3rd round money
wr-campbell,p k sam no money here
c/g-hadot, G/LS-samson satele 3rd round money to Satele
rg-lj shelton,jacox just Shelton's salary
rt-Vernon Carey no change
lg-Toniu Fonuti,Toledo just Toledo's if we keep him
lt-Joe Staley,Alabi Staley's 2nd round money
te-mcmichael,peele,massaquoi no change
dt-traylor,Amobi Okoye, r.wright,fred evans just Okoye's 1st round money
de-Jason Taylor,carter,roth,Vickerson hopefully Carter and Taylor give us a break
lb-Patrick Willis,thomas,crowder,pope,mcCune,akbar lot of money here
s-Jason Allen,Hill,Bell Bell get's a raise
cb-Nate Clement,Asante Samuel,daniels,mitchell,jackson A TON of money here
k- mare Mare takes a pay cut
p-donnie jones No change
We cut Joey Harrington,Bennie Anderson,Big Daddy,and Michael Lehan.
The objective of all this activity is to obtain the NFL's #1 defense;To utterly dominate and crush every
opponent so we can win games averaging 15 points a game.
Problems: Actually finding a healthy Kelly Campbell or player like him. Took a lot of liberty here.
Making a scenario like this fit the cap
Trading Ronnie Brown. Hate to trade Ronnie, but if it's Ronnie or the #1 defense in the NFL....
I'll take the latter. There are only 48 players listed. Need some depth,really cheap depth.
Will miss Welker but Campbell,P.K. Sam,Shirdonya Mitchell, and Vick all return kicks. Clowney?
FA's:Asante Samuel,Nate Clements,Kelley Campbell.

practice squad:
QB-Gibrin Hamdan
TE-Jason Rader
OL-Lee Gray
s-Roderick Rodgers
DT-Steve Fifita
wr-Brett Smith
OL-stephenson
We make these trades:
ronnie brown andre goodman, and marty booker for Green bay's 1st rounder
will allen,jeno james, seth mckinney, and our sixth pick to az for their second rounder
chris chambers and our fourth and seventh to Oakland for their second round pick
Manny Wright and the right to sign welker to san fran for their fifth rounder
Sorry about the rough draft,I ran out of time. What do think of the upgraded defense?

banzaitrey
02-07-2007, 09:54 AM
Wow...that is all that I think that i have to say

EAZY 0
02-07-2007, 10:02 AM
no way we have a #1 D with Malcolm as our coach.

biggfish72
02-07-2007, 10:05 AM
YEAH THE D' CAN PLAY BOTH WAY'S AND WE WE'LL GO 17 & 0 and win it all, some of u'll got too much time....lol

Dtronic
02-07-2007, 10:07 AM
YEAH THE D' CAN PLAY BOTH WAY'S AND WE WE'LL GO 17 & 0 and win it all, some of u'll got too much time....lol
:lol:

Boomer
02-07-2007, 10:10 AM
"ronnie brown andre goodman, and marty booker for Green bay's 1st rounder
will allen,jeno james, seth mckinney, and our sixth pick to az for their second rounder
chris chambers and our fourth and seventh to Oakland for their second round pick
Manny Wright and the right to sign welker to san fran for their fifth rounder
"

FLMAO

"joe staley from Oakland #33 This guy can immediately conquer the NFL"

FLMAO. If you knew anything about Staley, good as he is, is that he lacks the strength to do anything immediately.


"wr-hagan,clowney,vick only Hagan's 3rd round money
wr-campbell,p k sam no money here"

FLMAO. A WR corps of Kelly Campbell and Derek Hagan, a converted QB with 0 NFL catches, a rookie FA and a practice squadder?


cb-Nate Clement,Asante Samuel

FLMAO.

Elliott 1
02-07-2007, 10:19 AM
I didn't say the offense was going to be good. I said a defense like this would be great. That's why I mentioned our goal would be to score an average of 15 points a game. In this scenario the defense is clearly given top priority. Two big money FA's and the first two draft picks.

SamTodd
02-07-2007, 10:26 AM
Step away from the crack son, everythings gonna be alright.

finserg
02-07-2007, 10:43 AM
Ok

NJPHIN34
02-07-2007, 10:50 AM
I didn't say the offense was going to be good. I said a defense like this would be great. That's why I mentioned our goal would be to score an average of 15 points a game. In this scenario the defense is clearly given top priority. Two big money FA's and the first two draft picks.

Oh yeah our top defenses in the past have always worked out well for us. This thread is a joke, mods please delete.

marcodolphin
02-07-2007, 10:54 AM
your nuts

dolpns13
02-07-2007, 11:03 AM
amobi okoye ours #9 This guy is a sick freak and he is only 19
pat willis from Green Bay #16 This guy does everything real well
joe staley from Oakland #33 This guy can immediately conquer the NFL
michael bush from arizona #37 His leg will be totally healed by camp
samson satele ours #40 This guy is vicious! and he is a good long snapper
david clowney ours #71 This guy is fast
jarod zabransky from san fran #140 67% completions and a great athlete
clifton dawson undrafted rookie This guy is smart,a Harvard man

QB-Daunte culpepper,Cleo Lemon,Jarod Zabransky not much money here for QB's
RB-ricky williams,michael bush,clifton dawson really only what we have to pay a 2nd rounder
fb-kyle eckel no money here
wr-hagan,clowney,vick only Hagan's 3rd round money
wr-campbell,p k sam no money here
c/g-hadot, G/LS-samson satele 3rd round money to Satele
rg-lj shelton,jacox just Shelton's salary
rt-Vernon Carey no change
lg-Toniu Fonuti,Toledo just Toledo's if we keep him
lt-Joe Staley,Alabi Staley's 2nd round money
te-mcmichael,peele,massaquoi no change
dt-traylor,Amobi Okoye, r.wright,fred evans just Okoye's 1st round money
de-Jason Taylor,carter,roth,Vickerson hopefully Carter and Taylor give us a break
lb-Patrick Willis,thomas,crowder,pope,mcCune,akbar lot of money here
s-Jason Allen,Hill,Bell Bell get's a raise
cb-Nate Clement,Asante Samuel,daniels,mitchell,jackson A TON of money here
k- mare Mare takes a pay cut
p-donnie jones No change
We cut Joey Harrington,Bennie Anderson,Big Daddy,and Michael Lehan.
The objective of all this activity is to obtain the NFL's #1 defense;To utterly dominate and crush every
opponent so we can win games averaging 15 points a game.
Problems: Actually finding a healthy Kelly Campbell or player like him. Took a lot of liberty here.
Making a scenario like this fit the cap
Trading Ronnie Brown. Hate to trade Ronnie, but if it's Ronnie or the #1 defense in the NFL....
I'll take the latter. There are only 48 players listed. Need some depth,really cheap depth.
Will miss Welker but Campbell,P.K. Sam,Shirdonya Mitchell, and Vick all return kicks. Clowney?
FA's:Asante Samuel,Nate Clements,Kelley Campbell.

practice squad:
QB-Gibrin Hamdan
TE-Jason Rader
OL-Lee Gray
s-Roderick Rodgers
DT-Steve Fifita
wr-Brett Smith
OL-stephenson
We make these trades:
ronnie brown andre goodman, and marty booker for Green bay's 1st rounder
will allen,jeno james, seth mckinney, and our sixth pick to az for their second rounder
chris chambers and our fourth and seventh to Oakland for their second round pick
Manny Wright and the right to sign welker to san fran for their fifth rounder
Sorry about the rough draft,I ran out of time. What do think of the upgraded defense?

:sidelol: Seriously dude...Where doyou come up with this stuff...Especially the first rounder trade thing...

nick1
02-07-2007, 11:06 AM
no way we have a #1 D with Malcolm as our coach.

may I ask what he has to do with it? Dom Capers is still here, the defense will remain good and Cameron can only help them out by bringing some offense to help them. Mueller will get us the pass rushing OLB we need and maybe a #1 corner too. Cameron won't hurt the defense in any way

Bruzer
02-07-2007, 11:09 AM
wow....... I am completely speechless this has to be one of the worst post I have seen.

nick1
02-07-2007, 11:11 AM
yeah the additions you have are crazy, it's beyond Madden crazy

dolpns13
02-07-2007, 11:17 AM
may I ask what he has to do with it? Dom Capers is still here, the defense will remain good and Cameron can only help them out by bringing some offense to help them. Mueller will get us the pass rushing OLB we need and maybe a #1 corner too. Cameron won't hurt the defense in any way

I dont see Cam even touching the defense and allowing Capers to run it on his own. The way I see it is we have two head coaches on offense and defense.

FINdestructible
02-07-2007, 11:18 AM
:sidelol: That's all can do right now.

nick1
02-07-2007, 11:21 AM
I dont see Cam even touching the defense and allowing Capers to run it on his own. The way I see it is we have two head coaches on offense and defense.

my point exactly

Elliott 1
02-07-2007, 11:29 AM
Oh yeah our top defenses in the past have always worked out well for us. This thread is a joke, mods please delete.

What is this supposed to mean? Why don't you make a comment on something referring to? What past defenses? And what does this have to do with the scenario depicted in the thread?

truckstick23
02-07-2007, 11:31 AM
Is this a serious post?

CVass
02-07-2007, 11:34 AM
No but seriously... Samuel AND Clements!?!?!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

RUDEbyallMEANS
02-07-2007, 11:36 AM
Wow... That was a complete waste of time on everybody's part, especially the writer.

dolpns13
02-07-2007, 11:37 AM
What is this supposed to mean? Why don't you make a comment on something referring to? What past defenses? And what does this have to do with the scenario depicted in the thread?

He is saying, if you remember in the late 90's and early 00's we had shutdown defenses, even better than the defense we have now. Those defenses had no holes in them at all and we had a middle of the road offense in all those years and still never made it far in the playoffs. So if you think defense can win with a horrible offense, history supports the opposite.

Boomer
02-07-2007, 11:38 AM
Elliott dude, are you REALLY 47 years old?

absoluteLance
02-07-2007, 11:41 AM
theres a good idea, lets get rid of our number two overall pick and the workhorse of our offence. who next year will probably be one of the top RB with reception and rushing yards.

Your idea will eliminate the chance for us to score 17 points a game. We will be lucky to not get shutout every game.

Maybe you think we should trade all our draft picks and get Viniterie and rely on field goals?

PhinsFanDan
02-07-2007, 11:44 AM
Step away from the crack son, everythings gonna be alright.


LMFAO. hahahhaahhahahahahahahaahahahahhahaha
oh god. im sitting here in business school and just bust out laughing @ all this:sidelol:

DolfanTom
02-07-2007, 11:46 AM
amobi okoye ours #9 This guy is a sick freak and he is only 19
pat willis from Green Bay #16 This guy does everything real well
joe staley from Oakland #33 This guy can immediately conquer the NFL
michael bush from arizona #37 His leg will be totally healed by camp
samson satele ours #40 This guy is vicious! and he is a good long snapper
david clowney ours #71 This guy is fast
jarod zabransky from san fran #140 67% completions and a great athlete
clifton dawson undrafted rookie This guy is smart,a Harvard man

QB-Daunte culpepper,Cleo Lemon,Jarod Zabransky not much money here for QB's
RB-ricky williams,michael bush,clifton dawson really only what we have to pay a 2nd rounder
fb-kyle eckel no money here
wr-hagan,clowney,vick only Hagan's 3rd round money
wr-campbell,p k sam no money here
c/g-hadot, G/LS-samson satele 3rd round money to Satele
rg-lj shelton,jacox just Shelton's salary
rt-Vernon Carey no change
lg-Toniu Fonuti,Toledo just Toledo's if we keep him
lt-Joe Staley,Alabi Staley's 2nd round money
te-mcmichael,peele,massaquoi no change
dt-traylor,Amobi Okoye, r.wright,fred evans just Okoye's 1st round money
de-Jason Taylor,carter,roth,Vickerson hopefully Carter and Taylor give us a break
lb-Patrick Willis,thomas,crowder,pope,mcCune,akbar lot of money here
s-Jason Allen,Hill,Bell Bell get's a raise
cb-Nate Clement,Asante Samuel,daniels,mitchell,jackson A TON of money here
k- mare Mare takes a pay cut
p-donnie jones No change
We cut Joey Harrington,Bennie Anderson,Big Daddy,and Michael Lehan.
The objective of all this activity is to obtain the NFL's #1 defense;To utterly dominate and crush every
opponent so we can win games averaging 15 points a game.
Problems: Actually finding a healthy Kelly Campbell or player like him. Took a lot of liberty here.
Making a scenario like this fit the cap
Trading Ronnie Brown. Hate to trade Ronnie, but if it's Ronnie or the #1 defense in the NFL....
I'll take the latter. There are only 48 players listed. Need some depth,really cheap depth.
Will miss Welker but Campbell,P.K. Sam,Shirdonya Mitchell, and Vick all return kicks. Clowney?
FA's:Asante Samuel,Nate Clements,Kelley Campbell.

practice squad:
QB-Gibrin Hamdan
TE-Jason Rader
OL-Lee Gray
s-Roderick Rodgers
DT-Steve Fifita
wr-Brett Smith
OL-stephenson
We make these trades:
ronnie brown andre goodman, and marty booker for Green bay's 1st rounder
will allen,jeno james, seth mckinney, and our sixth pick to az for their second rounder
chris chambers and our fourth and seventh to Oakland for their second round pick
Manny Wright and the right to sign welker to san fran for their fifth rounder
Sorry about the rough draft,I ran out of time. What do think of the upgraded defense?Wow, this is just
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Geforce
02-07-2007, 11:46 AM
amobi okoye ours #9 This guy is a sick freak and he is only 19
pat willis from Green Bay #16 This guy does everything real well
joe staley from Oakland #33 This guy can immediately conquer the NFL
michael bush from arizona #37 His leg will be totally healed by camp
samson satele ours #40 This guy is vicious! and he is a good long snapper
david clowney ours #71 This guy is fast
jarod zabransky from san fran #140 67% completions and a great athlete
clifton dawson undrafted rookie This guy is smart,a Harvard man

QB-Daunte culpepper,Cleo Lemon,Jarod Zabransky not much money here for QB's
RB-ricky williams,michael bush,clifton dawson really only what we have to pay a 2nd rounder
fb-kyle eckel no money here
wr-hagan,clowney,vick only Hagan's 3rd round money
wr-campbell,p k sam no money here
c/g-hadot, G/LS-samson satele 3rd round money to Satele
rg-lj shelton,jacox just Shelton's salary
rt-Vernon Carey no change
lg-Toniu Fonuti,Toledo just Toledo's if we keep him
lt-Joe Staley,Alabi Staley's 2nd round money
te-mcmichael,peele,massaquoi no change
dt-traylor,Amobi Okoye, r.wright,fred evans just Okoye's 1st round money
de-Jason Taylor,carter,roth,Vickerson hopefully Carter and Taylor give us a break
lb-Patrick Willis,thomas,crowder,pope,mcCune,akbar lot of money here
s-Jason Allen,Hill,Bell Bell get's a raise
cb-Nate Clement,Asante Samuel,daniels,mitchell,jackson A TON of money here
k- mare Mare takes a pay cut
p-donnie jones No change
We cut Joey Harrington,Bennie Anderson,Big Daddy,and Michael Lehan.
The objective of all this activity is to obtain the NFL's #1 defense;To utterly dominate and crush every
opponent so we can win games averaging 15 points a game.
Problems: Actually finding a healthy Kelly Campbell or player like him. Took a lot of liberty here.
Making a scenario like this fit the cap
Trading Ronnie Brown. Hate to trade Ronnie, but if it's Ronnie or the #1 defense in the NFL....
I'll take the latter. There are only 48 players listed. Need some depth,really cheap depth.
Will miss Welker but Campbell,P.K. Sam,Shirdonya Mitchell, and Vick all return kicks. Clowney?
FA's:Asante Samuel,Nate Clements,Kelley Campbell.

practice squad:
QB-Gibrin Hamdan
TE-Jason Rader
OL-Lee Gray
s-Roderick Rodgers
DT-Steve Fifita
wr-Brett Smith
OL-stephenson
We make these trades:
ronnie brown andre goodman, and marty booker for Green bay's 1st rounder
will allen,jeno james, seth mckinney, and our sixth pick to az for their second rounder
chris chambers and our fourth and seventh to Oakland for their second round pick
Manny Wright and the right to sign welker to san fran for their fifth rounder
Sorry about the rough draft,I ran out of time. What do think of the upgraded defense?

Hagan & Campbell as our starting WRs??? Campbell hasn't played beyond preseason in over two years and you want him as a starter? Clowney has great speed but unfortunately has a tendacy of dropping easy passes.

You may want to have the #1 defense but I don't see how this offense you're suggesting will even score 15 PPG.

B-lo
02-07-2007, 12:01 PM
This is the kinda sh$t that gives Dlophin fans a bad name! Are you fukin kidding me :sidelol: !!!!!

retired opfinistic
02-07-2007, 12:17 PM
This is the kinda sh$t that gives Dlophin fans a bad name! Are you fukin kidding me :sidelol: !!!!!
I am forced to agree with B-Lo. I feel so dirty!:lol:

DolfanTom
02-07-2007, 01:05 PM
This is the kinda sh$t that gives Dlophin fans a bad name! Are you fukin kidding me :sidelol: !!!!!Every team has them B-lo. But holy $hit wow!

Capt. Dick
02-07-2007, 01:19 PM
I`ll bet we could trade all of this year`s and next year`s draft picks for ol` Rex Grossman.:goof:

B-lo
02-07-2007, 02:58 PM
I`ll bet we could trade all of this year`s and next year`s draft picks for ol` Rex Grossman.:goof:we'll give you Peerless Price for the #9 overall.

:goof:

TotoreMexico
02-07-2007, 03:18 PM
amobi okoye ours #9 This guy is a sick freak and he is only 19
pat willis from Green Bay #16 This guy does everything real well
joe staley from Oakland #33 This guy can immediately conquer the NFL
michael bush from arizona #37 His leg will be totally healed by camp
samson satele ours #40 This guy is vicious! and he is a good long snapper
david clowney ours #71 This guy is fast
jarod zabransky from san fran #140 67% completions and a great athlete
clifton dawson undrafted rookie This guy is smart,a Harvard man

QB-Daunte culpepper,Cleo Lemon,Jarod Zabransky not much money here for QB's
RB-ricky williams,michael bush,clifton dawson really only what we have to pay a 2nd rounder
fb-kyle eckel no money here
wr-hagan,clowney,vick only Hagan's 3rd round money
wr-campbell,p k sam no money here
c/g-hadot, G/LS-samson satele 3rd round money to Satele
rg-lj shelton,jacox just Shelton's salary
rt-Vernon Carey no change
lg-Toniu Fonuti,Toledo just Toledo's if we keep him
lt-Joe Staley,Alabi Staley's 2nd round money
te-mcmichael,peele,massaquoi no change
dt-traylor,Amobi Okoye, r.wright,fred evans just Okoye's 1st round money
de-Jason Taylor,carter,roth,Vickerson hopefully Carter and Taylor give us a break
lb-Patrick Willis,thomas,crowder,pope,mcCune,akbar lot of money here
s-Jason Allen,Hill,Bell Bell get's a raise
cb-Nate Clement,Asante Samuel,daniels,mitchell,jackson A TON of money here
k- mare Mare takes a pay cut
p-donnie jones No change
We cut Joey Harrington,Bennie Anderson,Big Daddy,and Michael Lehan.
The objective of all this activity is to obtain the NFL's #1 defense;To utterly dominate and crush every
opponent so we can win games averaging 15 points a game.
Problems: Actually finding a healthy Kelly Campbell or player like him. Took a lot of liberty here.
Making a scenario like this fit the cap
Trading Ronnie Brown. Hate to trade Ronnie, but if it's Ronnie or the #1 defense in the NFL....
I'll take the latter. There are only 48 players listed. Need some depth,really cheap depth.
Will miss Welker but Campbell,P.K. Sam,Shirdonya Mitchell, and Vick all return kicks. Clowney?
FA's:Asante Samuel,Nate Clements,Kelley Campbell.

practice squad:
QB-Gibrin Hamdan
TE-Jason Rader
OL-Lee Gray
s-Roderick Rodgers
DT-Steve Fifita
wr-Brett Smith
OL-stephenson
We make these trades:
ronnie brown andre goodman, and marty booker for Green bay's 1st rounder
will allen,jeno james, seth mckinney, and our sixth pick to az for their second rounder
chris chambers and our fourth and seventh to Oakland for their second round pick
Manny Wright and the right to sign welker to san fran for their fifth rounder
Sorry about the rough draft,I ran out of time. What do think of the upgraded defense?

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1796/smokeyho8.jpg

DolfanTom
02-07-2007, 03:39 PM
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1796/smokeyho8.jpg
If there was an award for "Dumbest Post of all Time", this would certainly be nominated!

I don't even know where to start w/ how "off" it was!

Capt. Dick
02-07-2007, 11:24 PM
we'll give you Peerless Price for the #9 overall.

:goof:

I`ll bet you would. His production`s falling off faster than the freckles on an elderly Howdy Doody.

I hope we take Ted Ginn at #9. I`ve watched every game of his for the past two years. The kid`s a burner who gets good separation and can catch the ball in traffic. He`ll be close to the equal of Devon Hester on sp. teams too.

B-lo
02-08-2007, 08:43 AM
I`ll bet you would. His production`s falling off faster than the freckles on an elderly Howdy Doody.

I hope we take Ted Ginn at #9. I`ve watched every game of his for the past two years. The kid`s a burner who gets good separation and can catch the ball in traffic. He`ll be close to the equal of Devon Hester on sp. teams too. I suppose it's o.k. to get off topic on this thread? Would you take Ginn even if Charles Johnson was still there, if it is a reciever you take at this point?

DolfanTom
02-08-2007, 09:50 AM
I`ll bet you would. His production`s falling off faster than the freckles on an elderly Howdy Doody.

I hope we take Ted Ginn at #9. I`ve watched every game of his for the past two years. The kid`s a burner who gets good separation and can catch the ball in traffic. He`ll be close to the equal of Devon Hester on sp. teams too.
Hey capt - did Ginn's "disappearance" in the championship game scare you at all about him? I think the dude has mad skills, but I don't want another Randy Moss who takes plays off, or walks off the field while his team is attempting an onsides kick.

From your perspective, can he be trusted?

Oh, and B-lo, Peerless Price blows dairy cows!

DolfanTom
02-08-2007, 09:56 AM
I suppose it's o.k. to get off topic on this thread? Would you take Ginn even if Charles Johnson was still there, if it is a reciever you take at this point?
You mean Calvin Johnson, don't you? If he's there at #9, first, I'm sure Cammy and Mueller will have to pick up their jaws from off the floor, since they will have dropped. Then, they'll immediately make the pick.

I'll be shocked if Johnson makes it past pick three! Dude is unstoppable!

like2god
02-08-2007, 10:41 AM
I suppose it's o.k. to get off topic on this thread? Would you take Ginn even if Charles Johnson was still there, if it is a reciever you take at this point?

I don't want to answer for Capt. but here's my take.

First, Wes Welker needs to be resigned. In today's football, a player with his heart and disregard for his own body in traffic doesn't come along very often.

Second, there is no way Johnson falls to #9. I would love to have him on the Phins but it just isn't going to happen.

Third, Ginn isn't a bad player, I actually like what I have seen of his youtube clips. He's a very fast, explosive and creative WR who could probably step in and make some noise in this league from day 1. But where does he fit if the Dolphins keep Welker, Chambers, Booker and Hagan? That's a lot of money tied up in one position. If they could unload Chambers (who I have really soured on) then I say go for it. But I would really prefer the Phins trading down once or twice (to the 17-23 area) and drafting Kalil in the 1st while picking up some more picks.

In my mind the offseason priority is OL, OL, OL.

retired opfinistic
02-08-2007, 11:08 AM
OL, OL, OL.
amen amen amen.
build a foundation first, a good OL will make a fair QB look better and allow Ronnie to light it up. With Ricky possibly returning we can hit the ground running and pound the football down our opponent's throats with a solid 1-2 punch. Chambers? Meh. Don't know if his poor play was indicitive of his displeasure with our former coach or if he just sucks. Hopefully Cam can get more out of him this year. I'm sick of Dolphins not living up to their potential.:mad:

Enforcerfin33
02-08-2007, 11:10 AM
we'll give you Peerless Price for the #9 overall.

:goof:
There is no one on your team worth the 9th pick. :D

Capt. Dick
02-08-2007, 12:43 PM
Hey capt - did Ginn's "disappearance" in the championship game scare you at all about him? I think the dude has mad skills, but I don't want another Randy Moss who takes plays off, or walks off the field while his team is attempting an onsides kick.

From your perspective, can he be trusted?

Oh, and B-lo, Peerless Price blows dairy cows!

Not sure what you`re getting at here, Tom. AFAIK, Ginn was injured and couldn`t return. Game after game that I watched he played hard and very well. Of course me wanting him picked as our first pick is slightly colored by the fact that I`m a huge OSU fan.:wink: ...I do think that he has the skills and potential to be an NFL game breaker tho.

B-lo
02-08-2007, 12:50 PM
You mean Calvin Johnson, don't you? If he's there at #9, first, I'm sure Cammy and Mueller will have to pick up their jaws from off the floor, since they will have dropped. Then, they'll immediately make the pick.

I'll be shocked if Johnson makes it past pick three! Dude is unstoppable! Yea Calvin, he is a specimen. He probably wont be there, but I agree w/L2gay . You guys need more picks, but also Ginn scares me. He seems like a later pick then 9, don't get me wrong he is awesome, but I think he go's a little later than #9? well see,
:cooldude:

DolfanTom
02-08-2007, 12:52 PM
Not sure what you`re getting at here, Tom. AFAIK, Ginn was injured and couldn`t return. Game after game that I watched he played hard and very well. Of course me wanting him picked as our first pick is slightly colored by the fact that I`m a huge OSU fan.:wink: ...I do think that he has the skills and potential to be an NFL game breaker tho.Oh, I think he does too, but what I was referring to was the "speculation" that he didn't want to go back into the game and wasn't really THAT hurt. That's all!

Hopefully, it's just media BS! It sounds like if we draft him, he would provide some big plays.

DolfanTom
02-08-2007, 12:53 PM
Yea Calvin, he is a specimen. He probably wont be there, but I agree w/L2gay . You guys need more picks, but also Ginn scares me. He seems like a later pick then 9, don't get me wrong he is awesome, but I think he go's a little later than #9? well see,
:cooldude:We have a lot of needs, that's for sure. In one way, Ginn might be a luxury when we need OL.

Hopefully, Mueller and Cammy make the right choice!

Capt. Dick
02-08-2007, 01:07 PM
I don't want to answer for Capt. but here's my take.

First, Wes Welker needs to be resigned. In today's football, a player with his heart and disregard for his own body in traffic doesn't come along very often.

Second, there is no way Johnson falls to #9. I would love to have him on the Phins but it just isn't going to happen.

Third, Ginn isn't a bad player, I actually like what I have seen of his youtube clips. He's a very fast, explosive and creative WR who could probably step in and make some noise in this league from day 1. But where does he fit if the Dolphins keep Welker, Chambers, Booker and Hagan? That's a lot of money tied up in one position. If they could unload Chambers (who I have really soured on) then I say go for it. But I would really prefer the Phins trading down once or twice (to the 17-23 area) and drafting Kalil in the 1st while picking up some more picks.

In my mind the offseason priority is OL, OL, OL.


I agree 100%, l2g, but unless we can trade down a few spots and pick up an additional pick (3rd), I , personally wouldn`t use the 9th pick on Brown or Blaylock.

DolfanTom
02-08-2007, 01:12 PM
I agree 100%, l2g, but unless we can trade down a few spots and pick up an additional pick (3rd), I , personally wouldn`t use the 9th pick on Brown or Blaylock.Levi Brown looks like the real deal though! The next Richmond Webb perhaps, but w/ run blocking skillz. I was impressed w/ his Sr. Bowl.

We definitely need to generate a franchise LT from somewhere!

Like I said before, we have lots of needs.

like2god
02-08-2007, 02:12 PM
amen amen amen.
build a foundation first, a good OL will make a fair QB look better and allow Ronnie to light it up. With Ricky possibly returning we can hit the ground running and pound the football down our opponent's throats with a solid 1-2 punch. Chambers? Meh. Don't know if his poor play was indicitive of his displeasure with our former coach or if he just sucks. Hopefully Cam can get more out of him this year. I'm sick of Dolphins not living up to their potential.:mad:

The one thing that I heard Cam say that really brought a smile to my face was that he wants to build the offense from the inside out, starting at center. We all know how poorly the OL played last year and I am really excited that our coach finally sees that as a priority. Like you said, running the ball down the opponents throat is very effective and you need players that can dominate in the trenches. Running also takes pressure off the QB which can only help a guy like Culpepper succeed, which is another question mark for this team. Now neither of us is expecting Ronnie or Ricky to put up Tomlinson type numbers but I'm sure that we both feel their play should improve with the addition of tough wide bodies on the line. (needed to clarify that for the trolls) :wink:

Chambers......he's not a #1 IMO. I thought he would take his play to the next level last year but he showed that he can't seperate from his defender and has butterfinger syndrome. If he's here I'll support him but he really needs to improve.


I agree 100%, l2g, but unless we can trade down a few spots and pick up an additional pick (3rd), I , personally wouldn`t use the 9th pick on Brown or Blaylock.
I'll be honest and say that I don't know alot about Blaylock. I have seen Brown a few times but the guy I saw that really opened my eyes was Kalil. He did everything well during the SeniorBowl, his technique is good and he plays really well leverage wise and doesn't get beaten. His workouts/drills left me with the feeling of "We need this guy". Everybody was talking about how he is a leader and you could see that from those tapes. I don't think we should waste the #9 on him, centers don't go that high, but if we could find a way to trade down to the mid to late 1st round we could get those extra picks and still get him.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be disappointed if we took Brown, but I don't see him slipping too far in the draft. If we don't take him at 9 I don't think we get him.


Levi Brown looks like the real deal though! The next Richmond Webb perhaps, but w/ run blocking skillz. I was impressed w/ his Sr. Bowl.

We definitely need to generate a franchise LT from somewhere!

Like I said before, we have lots of needs.
LT is a big need and I agree that we have a lot of them. What are your 3 biggest areas of need in your opinion?

finsrclowns
02-08-2007, 02:18 PM
What are your 3 biggest areas of need in your opinion?

Sex, beer, NFL Sunday ticket.:lol:

DolfanTom
02-08-2007, 02:21 PM
LT is a big need and I agree that we have a lot of them. What are your 3 biggest areas of need in your opinion?

1 - QB: Even if 'Pepper turns it around next year, I still want to see us add a QB in the offseason, whether it be in the draft or FA. Not just some scrub, but someone w/ upside if Pepper either is a bust, or breaks down after a successful year or two. I'd love to have a Philip Rivers type, with a similar result by the incumbent starter. There are lots of needs, but as we've seen too often, you don't do squat w/out a quality QB.

2 - LT/OL: After QB, we need to begin to build a monster line, or at least one that dominates more than it gets dominated. Levi Brown could be a start!!

3 - WR: We need a true consistent playmaker. Chambers can be more than decent, and Booker is solid, but we need a Chad Johnson type!!!

I purposely kept DL from this, as I feel our defense is in decent shape and can still be addressed later in the draft and through FA. It's a need still, but I think lesser than this. Same goes for DBs.

DolfanTom
02-08-2007, 02:22 PM
Sex, beer, NFL Sunday ticket.:lol:For you to get sex, you need to make beer (lots of it) priority number one for your mate!

:D

like2god
02-08-2007, 02:43 PM
For you to get sex, you need to make beer (lots of it) priority number one for your mate!

:D
Or he should have a fist full of nickels ready when he goes to visit Kinzua. :lol:

retired opfinistic
02-08-2007, 02:56 PM
The one thing that I heard Cam say that really brought a smile to my face was that he wants to build the offense from the inside out, starting at center. We all know how poorly the OL played last year and I am really excited that our coach finally sees that as a priority. Like you said, running the ball down the opponents throat is very effective and you need players that can dominate in the trenches. Running also takes pressure off the QB which can only help a guy like Culpepper succeed, which is another question mark for this team. Now neither of us is expecting Ronnie or Ricky to put up Tomlinson type numbers but I'm sure that we both feel their play should improve with the addition of tough wide bodies on the line. (needed to clarify that for the trolls) :wink:

Chambers......he's not a #1 IMO. I thought he would take his play to the next level last year but he showed that he can't seperate from his defender and has butterfinger syndrome. If he's here I'll support him but he really needs to improve.

It's a shame he showed so much promise in '05, I don't know if it's time to give up and cut our losses or not. We should bring in a young hotshot to keep him honest and fight for the #1 spot.

like2god
02-08-2007, 03:02 PM
1 - QB: Even if 'Pepper turns it around next year, I still want to see us add a QB in the offseason, whether it be in the draft or FA. Not just some scrub, but someone w/ upside if Pepper either is a bust, or breaks down after a successful year or two. I'd love to have a Philip Rivers type, with a similar result by the incumbent starter. There are lots of needs, but as we've seen too often, you don't do squat w/out a quality QB.

2 - LT/OL: After QB, we need to begin to build a monster line, or at least one that dominates more than it gets dominated. Levi Brown could be a start!!

3 - WR: We need a true consistent playmaker. Chambers can be more than decent, and Booker is solid, but we need a Chad Johnson type!!!

I purposely kept DL from this, as I feel our defense is in decent shape and can still be addressed later in the draft and through FA. It's a need still, but I think lesser than this. Same goes for DBs.

I really like the idea of adding a young QB to groom for the future, just not at #9. With that said, my top 3 are:

1. OL: I already mentioned Kalil and you favor Brown, hopefully one of us is right. :wink: Not much in FA that would be worth the $$$ other than Kris Dielman. Again, I think this guy should be at the top of our FA list. He has a connection to Cameron and he is a beast in the trenches. THose are the only 2 guys that I am rooting for the Phins to pickup this offseason (Kalil and Dielman).

2. WR: Like I said before, Welker needs to be resigned. He is way too valuable to let go, he was the only player (other than JT) that rival fans from other boards raved about. When you get the attention of bitter rivals (Jets, Bills, Pats) you know you have something special. If the rest of them can learn to hold onto the ball and stay healthy then we don't have a problem, but that is easier said than done. I wouldn't be unhappy with a guy like Ginn, I think he could be very good with his explosiveness.

3. DB: I thought they played well last year, they did make a few mistakes but weren't horrible. Alot depends on what happens with Jason Allen IMO. Is he a S or a CB? I don't watch much college ball so I don't know who would be available to help at 9. I don't think we have a realistic shot at Clements or Samuel, they will be way too pricey.

And I totally agree that we have some good young players at DL that should be able to contribute next year. But how many DL players will be returning next year? Traylor is all but gone, so is Wilkinson IMO. Carter has a pretty big cap number and could be a casualty. Holliday will be looking for a big pay day and with Roth going into his 3rd year he should be given a chance to step up.

like2god
02-08-2007, 03:04 PM
It's a shame he showed so much promise in '05, I don't know if it's time to give up and cut our losses or not. We should bring in a young hotshot to keep him honest and fight for the #1 spot.
Exactly, maybe I was expecting too much after '05. He looked like a guy that was ready to shine in the spotlight. I have my fingers crossed that he can get things together.

DolfanTom
02-08-2007, 03:59 PM
ILike I said before, Welker needs to be resigned. He is way too valuable to let go, he was the only player (other than JT) that rival fans from other boards raved about. When you get the attention of bitter rivals (Jets, Bills, Pats) you know you have something special.
I can't believe I didn't mention Welker. Yes, he needs to be here!! Yes, we still need to add a real #1 (or Chambers has to somehow become one), but guys like Welker are rediculously valuable for what they bring to the team as far as skill and heart!

Kinda like - oh I hate to say this, and it's not only because they are both white - Wayne Chrebet was for the Jests. Outplayed his physical limitations and had lots of heart.

l2g - would you draft a guy like Drew Stanton if he was somehow still there in round two? How about a Tyler Palko in round three or four?

Stanton would be a steal in the second. I like Palko, but is three or four too early?

retired opfinistic
02-08-2007, 04:01 PM
Exactly, maybe I was expecting too much after '05. He looked like a guy that was ready to shine in the spotlight. I have my fingers crossed that he can get things together.
I'm with ya on that one, bro!

Vertical Limit
02-08-2007, 04:04 PM
I want my minutes refunded.

DolfanTom
02-08-2007, 04:10 PM
I want my minutes refunded.What, you back to focusing on the original post? For shame! :lol:

like2god
02-08-2007, 04:12 PM
I can't believe I didn't mention Welker. Yes, he needs to be here!! Yes, we still need to add a real #1 (or Chambers has to somehow become one), but guys like Welker are rediculously valuable for what they bring to the team as far as skill and heart!

Kinda like - oh I hate to say this, and it's not only because they are both white - Wayne Chrebet was for the Jests. Outplayed his physical limitations and had lots of heart.

l2g - would you draft a guy like Drew Stanton if he was somehow still there in round two? How about a Tyler Palko in round three or four?

Stanton would be a steal in the second. I like Palko, but is three or four too early?

I honestly don't have an opinion on either guy because I don't watch much college ball. I have just recently started watching videos of the SeniorBowl workouts and youtube clips. From what I read, Stanton could go somewhere in the 2nd round, that might not be a bad spot to look for a QB to groom.