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BillsFanInPeace
02-08-2007, 05:27 PM
here you are fin fans. I am not sure if it was posted, but a Bill fan with the insider helping you out if not. Dont say all us bills fans are bad people LOL.

In my latest first-round projection, I have underclassmen making up half of the top 32 picks, including 12 of the first 20 spots on the board.
I still have LSU junior QB JaMarcus Russell (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=146755) going with the first overall pick to Oakland. However, the biggest buzz could center around Oklahoma junior RB Adrian Peterson (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=161717) (6-1½, 223 pounds). His workout numbers at the NFL combine should look something like this: 4.37 in the 40-yard dash; 38-inch vertical leap; and eight percent body fat. I have Peterson going to Cleveland, which will have either the third or fourth pick, depending on a coin flip tiebreaker with Tampa Bay; but there also could be several teams interested in trading up to get Peterson.
If Peterson does go to Cleveland, Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=150329) could slide to the Dolphins with the ninth pick. The reason Quinn would fall to Miami? Teams picking after Cleveland (possibly Tampa Bay, Arizona, Washington, Minnesota and Houston) don't need a quarterback. You could make a case for the Texans or Vikings to draft Quinn, but I don't expect that to happen.
The Seattle Seahawks are the only team that does not have a first-round pick because of the trade they made with the Patriots to acquire WR Deion Branch. Seattle could use another wide receiver and, ironically, this draft has a lot of great pass catchers. (I'm projecting seven wide receivers will go in the first round.)
My next first-round projection will be the first week of March following the NFL combine.
(Note: a coin flip between the Cleveland Browns and Tampa Bay Buccaneers will determine which team has the third pick and which team has the fourth choice.)


FIRST-ROUND PROJECTIONS
(ASTERISK DENOTES UNDERCLASSMAN)Pick
TeamPlayerPositionSchool
1.Oakland RaidersJaMarcus Russell*QBLSU
2.Detroit LionsJoe ThomasOTWisconsin
3 or 4Tampa Bay BuccaneersCalvin Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=161197)*WRGeorgia Tech
4 or 3Cleveland BrownsAdrian Peterson*RBOklahoma
5.Arizona CardinalsGaines AdamsDEClemson6.
Washington RedskinsJamaal Anderson*DEArkansas
7.Minnesota VikingsTed Ginn Jr. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=156844)*WROhio State
8.Houston TexansLevi Brown (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=172944)OTPenn State
9.Miami DolphinsBrady QuinnQBNotre Dame
10.Atlanta FalconsLaRon LandrySLSU
11.San Francisco 49ersAlan Branch*DTMichigan
12.Buffalo BillsAmobi OkoyeDTLouisville
13.St. Louis RamsCharles Johnson*DEGeorgia
14.Carolina PanthersDwayne Bowe (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=146735)WRLSU
15.Pittsburgh SteelersJarvis Moss*DEFlorida
16.Green Bay PackersMarshawn Lynch (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=163361)*RBCalifornia
17.Jacksonville JaguarsSidney Rice (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=169717)*WRSouth Carolina
18.Cincinnati BengalsLeon HallCBMichigan
19.Tennessee TitansDwayne Jarrett (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=161084)*WRUSC
20.New York GiantsLawrence Timmons*LBFlorida State
21.Denver BroncosAdam CarrikerDENebraska
22.Dallas CowboysReggie Nelson*DBFlorida
23.Kansas City ChiefsAaron RossCBTexas
24.New England Patriots (from SEA)Daymeion HughesCBCalifornia
25.New York JetsRobert Meachem (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=146890)*WRTennessee
26.Philadelphia EaglesTim CrowderDETexas
27.New Orleans SaintsDarrelle Revis*CBPittsburgh
28.New England PatriotsAnthony Gonzalez (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=146166)*WROhio State
29.Baltimore RavensAnthony SpencerDEPurdue
30.San Diego ChargersPatrick WillisLBOle Miss
31.Chicago BearsArron SearsOLTennessee
32.Indianapolis ColtsJustin HarrellDTTennessee

Stitches
02-08-2007, 05:31 PM
I've seen this already, but thanks for the effort.

tucker
02-08-2007, 05:37 PM
i havent

steeda
02-08-2007, 05:38 PM
It would be real interesting to see what Quinn could do if he landed here. I would rather the fins draft an O-Line man with their 1st round pick, but i wouldn't complain if we got Quinn either. Thanks for the info!

PhinFan0202
02-08-2007, 05:39 PM
Thanks for the info.

BillsFanInPeace
02-08-2007, 05:42 PM
It would be real interesting to see what Quinn could do if he landed here. I would rather the fins draft an O-Line man with their 1st round pick, but i wouldn't complain if we got Quinn either. Thanks for the info!

No prob. I will say I do "hate" the fins twice a year, but do cheer for them when they are not playing the Bills

Caldolfan
02-08-2007, 05:49 PM
Say no to Brady Quinn, Culpepper will be the man.

Aqua and Orange
02-08-2007, 05:54 PM
Man, I hope this mock is right. I think that the Texans might take Quinn though since they are looking to get Plummer, trade Carr, and possibly develop a young talent as well.

jlfin
02-08-2007, 06:14 PM
It would be real interesting to see what Quinn could do if he landed here. I would rather the fins draft an O-Line man with their 1st round pick, but i wouldn't complain if we got Quinn either. Thanks for the info!


Thomas won't be there at 9, so basically what you are saying is we should reach for an O-lineman rather than draft a potential franchise QB. :shakeno:

LAMiamifan
02-08-2007, 06:14 PM
You cant give up a 1st or 2nd for a qb... 3 STRAIGHT YEARS!!! Its stupid

jlfin
02-08-2007, 06:16 PM
Say no to Brady Quinn, Culpepper will be the man.


One has nothing to do with the other. Most rookie QB's aren't expected to come right in and light it up. Marino and Manning were exceptions. Even Elway struggled his rookie year.
Most franchises would prefer to let their future franchise QB's sit on the bench for a season or 2.

fish fan 4 life
02-08-2007, 06:20 PM
If we get Quinn i would be happy with that.

Rubbin420
02-08-2007, 06:41 PM
Say no to Brady Quinn, Culpepper will be the man.


Willing to bet the season on that?

Not even our coach knows if he is going to be ready.

GCD960
02-08-2007, 07:03 PM
You cant give up a 1st or 2nd for a qb... 3 STRAIGHT YEARS!!! Its stupid


You know, when you put it like that, it makes sense....

But since the first one was a very big mistake and the second one is debatable....a new HC just might do it.....

With a potential franchise QB on the board, Cam will not have a choice....unless Thomas is there....Branch available also makes it interesting

dolphindude13
02-08-2007, 08:20 PM
I would take Quinn in a heart beat to sit behind C-Pepp for a year or 2. We need that franchise QB for the long haul. I'm sick and tired of taking someone else's sloppy 2nd's

phins3454
02-08-2007, 08:41 PM
I would take Quinn in a heart beat to sit behind C-Pepp for a year or 2. We need that franchise QB for the long haul. I'm sick and tired of taking someone else's sloppy 2nd's

Amen to that brother!


BTW in your sig, I think that girl is pointing at me, sorry dude...but she wants me :D

Phanatical
02-08-2007, 08:56 PM
[quote=BillsFanInPeace;1061782624]here you are fin fans. I am not sure if it was posted, but a Bill fan with the insider helping you out if not. Dont say all us bills fans are bad people LOL.

In my latest first-round projection, I have underclassmen making up half of the top 32 picks, including 12 of the first 20 spots on the board.
I still have LSU junior QB JaMarcus Russell (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=146755) going with the first overall pick to Oakland. However, the biggest buzz could center around Oklahoma junior RB Adrian Peterson (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=161717) (6-1½, 223 pounds). His workout numbers at the NFL combine should look something like this: 4.37 in the 40-yard dash; 38-inch vertical leap; and eight percent body fat. I have Peterson going to Cleveland, which will have either the third or fourth pick, depending on a coin flip tiebreaker with Tampa Bay; but there also could be several teams interested in trading up to get Peterson.
If Peterson does go to Cleveland, Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=150329) could slide to the Dolphins with the ninth pick. The reason Quinn would fall to Miami? Teams picking after Cleveland (possibly Tampa Bay, Arizona, Washington, Minnesota and Houston) don't need a quarterback. You could make a case for the Texans or Vikings to draft Quinn, but I don't expect that to happen.

FIRST-ROUND PROJECTIONS
(ASTERISK DENOTES UNDERCLASSMAN)Pick
TeamPlayerPositionSchool
1.Oakland RaidersJaMarcus Russell*QBLSU
2.Detroit LionsJoe ThomasOTWisconsin
3 or 4Tampa Bay BuccaneersCalvin Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=161197)*WRGeorgia Tech
4 or 3Cleveland BrownsAdrian Peterson*RBOklahoma
5.Arizona CardinalsGaines AdamsDEClemson6.
Washington RedskinsJamaal Anderson*DEArkansas
7.Minnesota VikingsTed Ginn Jr. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=156844)*WROhio State
8.Houston TexansLevi Brown (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=172944)OTPenn State
9.Miami DolphinsBrady QuinnQBNotre Dame

Well, if the Texans do choose Quinn I wouldn't be disappointed with Levi Brown. In fact, with the Phins OL this should be the guy they target. The Phins should try and get Quinn, Thomas, Brown or Russell. That's the need: QB and LT. If any of those guys are there at 9 then it will be a good draft for us.

GO PHINS~!

Enforcerfin33
02-12-2007, 05:44 PM
Heres an article form Sunday......

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/16671903.htm

IdahoPhin
02-12-2007, 05:59 PM
Say no to Brady Quinn, Culpepper will be the man.

If Joey gets cut to save cap space and we aren't able to sign Lemon back we still need to draft a QB. Even if Pep does what everyone expects from him we still need a young stud behind him..

If Quinn is there at #9 and we don't draft him this board will come apart with posts.:wink:

jdang307
02-12-2007, 06:07 PM
Heres an article form Sunday......

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/16671903.htm

From that article:

Regardless, Kiper believes Miami will be able to get offensive help at No. 9. Among Quinn, Ohio State's Ted Ginn Jr. (considered the second-best receiver available) and Penn State's Levi Brown (the second-best left tackle), Kiper said, ``I think one or two of those three is definitely going to be there.''One or two of those three? Haha, he must have misspoke how would two of the three ever land here?

Roman529
02-12-2007, 06:32 PM
From that article:
One or two of those three? Haha, he must have misspoke how would two of the three ever land here?

He said two out of three should BE THERE not land here. :wink:

NorFlaFin
02-12-2007, 06:33 PM
Looking at that list Miami could trade down with the 49ers and still get Quinn.

hmn....

Mike13
02-12-2007, 07:16 PM
No prob. I will say I do "hate" the fins twice a year, but do cheer for them when they are not playing the Bills

Hmm a closet finfan? Join the club which includes jsut Clumpy.lol

Anyway thanks for the info.

BillsFanInPeace
02-12-2007, 10:18 PM
Hmm a closet finfan? Join the club which includes jsut Clumpy.lol

Anyway thanks for the info.

I guess you could call me a closet finfan, only when they are not playing Buffalo. I miss the times they were battling for the top spot, I am sick of the Patsys and HATE the jets

SpencerFS
02-13-2007, 10:57 AM
i really like quinn but i doubt he will be there id like Brown or Nelson

Bellson
02-13-2007, 12:37 PM
"Teams picking after Cleveland (possibly Tampa Bay, Arizona, Washington, Minnesota and Houston) don't need a quarterback. You could make a case for the Texans or Vikings to draft Quinn, but I don't expect that to happen." -BILLSFANINPEACE

Pretty bad rationalization for the Fins grabbing Quinn because Tampa Bay, Washington, Minnesota, and the Texans ALL need QB's. Chris Simms is horrible and even though Gradowski has talent, I believe TB needs to address their QB situation if they want to prevent themselves from going back to the Cream-sicle jersey days.... Washington has Campbell but there's still a QB battle with Brunnell hanging around... Minnesota has ol' FSU alum Brad Johnson as their starting QB so they are definitely going to need to grab a QB this draft b/c he's only got maybe another year left... and Houston has the David Carr trade rumors going around.

Having said all that, I really do not believe Quinn is going to cut it in the NFL. I'm not saying he does not have talent because if that were the case, he would never have played for ND. However, I do not think the Fins should even consider him at 9. Ol' Brady chokes in the big games, makes poor decisions when deciding when to roll or stay in the pocket, and can be very inaccurate. Our fins definitely need to grab a QB at some point in this draft, but BRADY IS NOT THE ANSWER!!

BillsFanInPeace
02-13-2007, 05:26 PM
"Teams picking after Cleveland (possibly Tampa Bay, Arizona, Washington, Minnesota and Houston) don't need a quarterback. You could make a case for the Texans or Vikings to draft Quinn, but I don't expect that to happen." -BILLSFANINPEACE

Pretty bad rationalization for the Fins grabbing Quinn because Tampa Bay, Washington, Minnesota, and the Texans ALL need QB's. Chris Simms is horrible and even though Gradowski has talent, I believe TB needs to address their QB situation if they want to prevent themselves from going back to the Cream-sicle jersey days.... Washington has Campbell but there's still a QB battle with Brunnell hanging around... Minnesota has ol' FSU alum Brad Johnson as their starting QB so they are definitely going to need to grab a QB this draft b/c he's only got maybe another year left... and Houston has the David Carr trade rumors going around.

Having said all that, I really do not believe Quinn is going to cut it in the NFL. I'm not saying he does not have talent because if that were the case, he would never have played for ND. However, I do not think the Fins should even consider him at 9. Ol' Brady chokes in the big games, makes poor decisions when deciding when to roll or stay in the pocket, and can be very inaccurate. Our fins definitely need to grab a QB at some point in this draft, but BRADY IS NOT THE ANSWER!!

Ok I will give you the Texans because of the trade rumors with Carr, but now that said Kubiak likes Plummer, so look for him to be in a Texans Uniform. Second No QB will work without O-Line help. But I also see them caving to the pressure of passing over Bush and will not do it again, look for Peterson to go there.

Vikings, Umm they drafted their QB in the second last year, so you will see him at least get a year before they look somewhere else. If Quinn does slip past the 1st two picks You could be looking at him at nine. Now that being said I do not know if you take him. Just saying if he makes it past DET look for him to start falling.

Minibull
02-13-2007, 06:53 PM
Pretty bad rationalization for the Fins grabbing Quinn because Tampa Bay, Washington, Minnesota, and the Texans ALL need QB's.!!

Let's hit these one at a time, shall we...?


Chris Simms is horrible and even though Gradowski has talent, I believe TB needs to address their QB situation if they want to prevent themselves from going back to the Cream-sicle jersey days....

The Bucs just signed Simms to a large contract extension and they have a young QB to groom (Gradowski). I don't see them going for Quinn here. They will take Calvin Johnson.


Washington has Campbell but there's still a QB battle with Brunnell hanging around...

The Redskins spent a first rounder on Campbell, who showed lots of promise at the end of last season. They have a veteran QB to back him up, so it would be a mighty surprise if they didn't go D for this pick. I think that they get Gaines.


Minnesota has ol' FSU alum Brad Johnson as their starting QB so they are definitely going to need to grab a QB this draft b/c he's only got maybe another year left...

Didn't the Vikings spend a 2nd rounder on Tamarius (sp?) Jackson last year at QB? I think they are in the same situation as the Redskins, in that they need to go D but might grab a WR. I'm seeing Teddy Ginn here.


and Houston has the David Carr trade rumors going around.

I think that the Texans will sign a veteran QB (Plummer?) to guide them next year and they will go D or OL to help him. I think they might grab Jamaal and put him next to Mario.


Having said all that, I really do not believe Quinn is going to cut it in the NFL..

Actually, I kinda agree with you. I think he's very smart, has an adequate arm, and comes from a good system, but I keep hearing that he's not really a leader in the clubhouse that you would expect from the #9 pick. If we take him, hopefully I'll be wrong...

Mike13
02-13-2007, 07:18 PM
not really a leader in the clubhouse that you would expect from the #9 pick. If we take him, hopefully I'll be wrong...

Hmm I didn't hear that.

Minibull
02-13-2007, 11:10 PM
Hmm I didn't hear that.

What I heard from a "scout" talking about the draft was that Quinn was different from the three QBs that went last year. He said that the teammates for Young, Leinart, and Cutler would do anything for their QBs, like running through a brick wall for him. He said that Quinn's teammates wouldn't really miss him in the locker room, that he was there to throw the ball and that was it.

Hopefully both he and I are wrong and Quinn grows up to be the next Joe Montana - but I think he also has a good chance of being another Jeff George (albeit with a weaker arm)...

finfan54
02-14-2007, 01:27 PM
I think its very interesting that Kiper has NE taking Anthony Gonzalez with their number one. All the talk about Ginn and Gonzalez was just as big a WR to Ohio State. Gonzalez is a go getter. Just a guy who gets open and scores and knows his position. I think there are some good WR's in this draft that will slip.