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Dolphin39
02-09-2007, 07:51 PM
Out these young NFL QBs, who do you think has the best skills and chance to be great? I like really like Cutler and wish Miami had been in a position to draft him. I like Rivers a lot as well.

1. Jay Cutler...Man I wish he was a Dolphin!
2. Matt Leinart
3. Alex Smith
4. Ben Rothlisburger
5. Vince Young
6. Aaron Rogers
7. Philip Rivers

Lester
02-09-2007, 08:03 PM
Cutler and Rivers. Young seems like he will be pretty exciting to watch as well.

adamprez2003
02-09-2007, 08:07 PM
cutler

VT Dolphan
02-09-2007, 08:14 PM
I'd have to say Leinart. If the key components of that offense stay together for a while, its hard not to imagine him becoming a star throwing to Boldin and Fitzgerald every game.

In_Flames
02-09-2007, 09:58 PM
Cutler, then Rivers....

HysterikiLL
02-09-2007, 10:24 PM
Too hard to say. Cutler looks great, Rivers looks great, Young looks great, Leinart looks great, Alex Smith looked pretty darn special with marginal talent last season...all in all, that's the future of the NFL right there

Dolphin39
02-09-2007, 10:45 PM
What about Aaron Rogers? He and Alex Smith were the favorites when they came out of college. When Brett finally retires how do you see Rogers playing?

In_Flames
02-09-2007, 10:51 PM
I honestly can't get a good read on Rogers yet...:hmmm:

Vertical Limit
02-09-2007, 10:56 PM
What about Aaron Rogers? He and Alex Smith were the favorites when they came out of college. When Brett finally retires how do you see Rogers playing?
I don't think Rodgers will be any good in this level. I'm actually surprised he even fell in the 1st round, to be honest I thought that Jason Campbell had much more potential than Aaron Rodgers, and I still think so [though I am an Auburn fan :D so it may be biased].

Alex Smith is the real deal. I like him, and I like the pieces they have in the 49ers. All they need is a receiver, and that offense is set. Vernom Davis, Alex Smith, Frank Gore; watch out NFC.

phinphan896
02-10-2007, 02:24 AM
i like rivers. his wide receivers werent special but he still got the job done. cutler on the other hand had rod smith and javon walker

RenoFinFan
02-10-2007, 02:28 AM
Out these young NFL QBs, who do you think has the best skills and chance to be great? I like really like Cutler and wish Miami had been in a position to draft him. I like Rivers a lot as well.

1. Jay Cutler...Man I wish he was a Dolphin!
2. Matt Leinart
3. Alex Smith
4. Ben Rothlisburger
5. Vince Young
6. Aaron Rogers
7. Philip Rivers

In this order...

1. Leinhart - greatest college career ever for a QB has too good of WRs to not be amongst league leaders soon.
2. Young - the guy just seems to win ballgames.
3. Rivers - one season as starter one pro bowl invite.
4. Cutler - he looks like the real deal.
5. Reothlisberger - already has a SB win to his name.
6. Smith - made a big leap forward in second year (would have been hard not to).
7. Rogers - Packers have been in no hurry to push Favre into retirement.

Mr.Majestik
02-10-2007, 02:29 AM
Out these young NFL QBs, who do you think has the best skills and chance to be great? I like really like Cutler and wish Miami had been in a position to draft him. I like Rivers a lot as well.

1. Jay Cutler...Man I wish he was a Dolphin!
2. Matt Leinart
3. Alex Smith
4. Ben Rothlisburger
5. Vince Young
6. Aaron Rogers
7. Philip Rivers

You would have to put Rivers at the top of that list, not the bottom. He's a Pro Bowler already, and has by far the best collection of offensive talent around him. Supporting cast will go a long way in determing who succeeds and who fails.

Ben Roethlisberger was a Super Bowl champ in his sophomore season, and he too has superior organization and players around him, that puts him near the top. The new regime in Pittsburgh says they'll play more four-receiver sets, which will help Roethlisberger open it up.

Jay Cutler is another guy that has to be near the top because of the superior organization, the strong running game, and Denver's willingness to do whatever it takes. Cutler had an 89 rating in the 5 games he started, that's leaps and bounds better then Young, it's even much better then Leinart, who you could argue had better position players then Cutler.

Leinart has the capacity to be great. He certainly has the tools, and Ken Whisenhut should be significantly better then Dennis Green, but it is the Cardinals, and no matter what that organization has done, no matter who they've hired to coach, or who they've drafted, or signed, it's been a vortex of losing. The Cardinals are by far the worst organization the NFL has known in the modern era, no one comes close.

Guys like Young, Smith and Rogers are big question marks. Young looks like Michael Vick without Vick's passing skills to be honest. He made a name for himself scrambling, but that won't last. Defenses have a book on him, and like every other scrambling quarterback, he'll have to contain his running and significantly improve his passing to succeed long-term. At this stage he's doing what he did at Texas, dink, dunk and run. He is so overrated as a player now it's mindboggling.

Smith is making progress, he looks like he's doing all the right things, but coming out of the system he came out of at Utah, you just don't know if he's going to regress. Like Young, he's essentially still learning how to play a pro-style offense. But again, he's got some good pieces around him. They're doing it right in San Fran.

Rogers is a complete unknown. Not many people have faith in this guys ability to get it done. He's almost spoken of as an afterthought. Tedford proteges haven't translated well from the college to the pro ranks, he's groomed eight NFL quarterbacks--Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, A.J. Feely, Billy Volek, David Carr, Trent Dilfer, Kyle Boller and Rodgers makes eight. I wouldn't hold out much hope for Rodgers considering the track record of this bunch.

Two guys you failed to mention are J.P. Losman and Jason Campbell. Losman is starting to look like a real player. He had only five attempts his rookie season, played only half the season two years ago, but is now looking good as a starter. He managed an 85 quarterback rating, if you consider only starting quarterbacks in the NFL, and not backups, Losman actually had the ninth best rating among NFL starters (if you leave Brunell, a placeholder, and Huard, a career backup in the rankings, Losman is still 11th in the league.) When you take into account that Losman had some awful OL play, and only one legit playmaker in the passing game, Lee Evans, his play is very impressive.

Campbell is a guy I don't see being successful. The Redskins are a mess. Joe Gibbs has no idea what he's doing anymore. I remember when Gibbs returned, opposing players ridiculed his offensive schemes as something leftover from the early ninties. Campbell has a better quarterback rating then Vince Young, and he's on par with Leinart, but he doesn't have the same supporting cast, and the organization itself is one of the league's worst. They spend more money then anyone, but that's not a substitute for competence.

PewterKrew
02-10-2007, 02:46 AM
Mr.Majestik, I would have to agree with you on you post very well though out with information to back up you thoughts nice to see someone look at all the young quarterbacks rather then just the players names

Dolfan81
02-10-2007, 04:43 PM
I don't think Rodgers will be any good in this level. I'm actually surprised he even fell in the 1st round, to be honest I thought that Jason Campbell had much more potential than Aaron Rodgers, and I still think so [though I am an Auburn fan :D so it may be biased].

Alex Smith is the real deal. I like him, and I like the pieces they have in the 49ers. All they need is a receiver, and that offense is set. Vernom Davis, Alex Smith, Frank Gore; watch out NFC.

they almost won the divison this years, nd i agree wit u 100% i lik smith alot, but i think leinart jus becuz of wat is arund him, the cardinals r startin 2 look lik the colts

The Confessor
02-10-2007, 05:07 PM
they almost won the divison this years, nd i agree wit u 100% i lik smith alot, but i think leinart jus becuz of wat is arund him, the cardinals r startin 2 look lik the colts
:confused:
Whooaaa. I think I am blind after reading this

playmaker1
02-10-2007, 05:12 PM
I think Rivers looks very god. He seemed too look the most comfortable. Of course he has been in the league a few years longer and got to sit and learn, but I think that will help him way more than the young QBs that kinda just got thrown out there.

My next choice would be Young, I mean that guy won some games this last year that they should have had no shot. He is already the leader of that team, and that says alot.

Crunkcore
02-10-2007, 05:32 PM
Rivers, Leinart and Young look the most promising right now.
Big Ben already won a superbowl, he just needs to recover from all that he's been through.
Smith looked better last year and could have a breakout year this season possibly.

GoBills24
02-10-2007, 06:09 PM
they almost won the divison this years, nd i agree wit u 100% i lik smith alot, but i think leinart jus becuz of wat is arund him, the cardinals r startin 2 look lik the colts

Agreed, the Cardinals definitely have some weapons to make some big plays.

WestCKoastiN
02-10-2007, 08:12 PM
Rivers and Young

Mr.Majestik
02-11-2007, 12:40 AM
Guys celebrating Vince Young as the next big thing better not bet their mortgage payments. As it stands today, Young is a terrible quarterback. He's much worse then Michael Vick, and if you had your pick of quarterbacks in this league, general managers would pick 15 other QBs before Michael Vick. Too many people look at the turnaround the Titans had with Young as the starter and assume he's a great player, or will be one shortly. He's not anywhere near elite. He's absolutely horrendous as a passer. He completed one pass over 40 yards all season. He has trouble with his footwork. He's making plays with his feet at this point and doing exactly what Michael Vick started out doing, winning games by scrambling out of trouble. The truth is Young isn't half the passer Vick was when he entered the league, and that isn't saying much. I'm willing to bet all my Phin Dollars Vince Young shows no progress as a passer next year, and regresses as an overall offensive threat. In year three people will start asking if the Titans made a big mistake passing on Leinart.

GoBills24
02-11-2007, 01:35 AM
Guys celebrating Vince Young as the next big thing better not bet their mortgage payments. As it stands today, Young is a terrible quarterback.

I agree 100%.

PhinFan0202
02-11-2007, 02:13 AM
Leinart and Rivers are going to be all pros for years to come.

King Felix
02-11-2007, 02:22 AM
Out these young NFL QBs, who do you think has the best skills and chance to be great? I like really like Cutler and wish Miami had been in a position to draft him. I like Rivers a lot as well.

1. Jay Cutler...Man I wish he was a Dolphin!
2. Matt Leinart
3. Alex Smith
4. Ben Rothlisburger
5. Vince Young
6. Aaron Rogers
7. Philip Rivers

1. Leinart, he has too many weapons not to succeed
2. Cutler, Killer arm and very acurate(also wish he was a dolphin)
3. Young, cant stand watching him throw but he is a winner, if titans snag a WR(jarrett?) with there first pick then vince and that guy could be a very nice hookup
4. Phillips, had a great season with pretty bad wide recievers, the best TE but still had bad wide recievers, also cant stand watching him throw.
5. Roethlisberger, i dont like his game and imo he is vastly overrated, but he won a superbowl ring and could be placed higher on the list and i wouldnt argue.
6. Smith, he did really good this season with no good threats with vernon davis being out for main part of season. combining gore, smith, davis, and maybe WR first round then that offense could be the future of the NFL.
7. Rodgers, just havent seen enough of him.