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Jammer13
02-10-2007, 05:11 PM
Since the season is officially over when will the ASK BoomerCK Parrot and KB thread for the draft start?? I'm starving for info. and going through major withdrawl. This is always one of my favorite threads each so I thought I'd kick it off.:dolphins:

I'll be the first to ask then.

Do either or you think Quinn will actually drop to #9?

Thanks in advance.





P.S. Mod's don't flame me if you don't want this in the general forum..

IluvJuMiami
02-10-2007, 05:14 PM
I hope it's okay to jump on the boat(insert Cuban joke at my expense here).

What do you guys think it would take for Miami to move up to 3/4? Do you think Cleveland or Tampa would take Chambers and our 3rd to exchange firsts?

The Confessor
02-10-2007, 05:18 PM
Uh, hope you cleared this with those guys first. All very good guys, but kindve calling them out....:wink:

rob19
02-10-2007, 05:19 PM
:chuckle:

FinsAreLife
02-10-2007, 05:21 PM
Since the season is officially over when will the ASK BoomerCK Parrot and KB thread for the draft start?? I'm starving for info. and going through major withdrawl. This is always one of my favorite threads each so I thought I'd kick it off.:dolphins:

I'll be the first to ask then.

Do either or you think Quinn will actually drop to #9?

Thanks in advance.





P.S. Mod's don't flame me if you don't want this in the general forum..


You're from rochester eh? Where abotus in the Roc. There are quite a few people on here from Rochester.

cnc66
02-10-2007, 05:29 PM
Since the season is officially over when will the ASK BoomerCK Parrot and KB thread for the draft start?? I'm starving for info. and going through major withdrawl. This is always one of my favorite threads each so I thought I'd kick it off.:dolphins:

I'll be the first to ask then.

Do either or you think Quinn will actually drop to #9?

Thanks in advance.





P.S. Mod's don't flame me if you don't want this in the general forum..

you could join VIP and be a part of all the discussions that are going on there..with them.. Almost every time those guys come out to the main forum, some jerk and/or jerks attack them and disrupt the whole thread. "If" I was them, I would hesitate before subjecting myself to the abuse that happens every time in the mains.

gator_sensation
02-10-2007, 05:31 PM
I hope it's okay to jump on the boat(insert Cuban joke at my expense here).

What do you guys think it would take for Miami to move up to 3/4? Do you think Cleveland or Tampa would take Chambers and our 3rd to exchange firsts?

Who do you want us to target if we move up?

Jammer13
02-10-2007, 05:33 PM
you could join VIP and be a part of all the discussions that are going on there..with them.. Almost every time those guys come out to the main forum, some jerk and/or jerks attack them and disrupt the whole thread. "If" I was them, I would hesitate before subjecting myself to the abuse that happens every time in the mains.

I hear you brother. I feel for them sometimes. I've been thinking of joining the VIP, but have been waiting to see if the general forum will improve, you are right some of us fans need to realize we are all in this together!

DonShula84
02-10-2007, 05:34 PM
Explain to people in your best guru language ( :) ) why you think Quinn is a good QB/pick.

Jammer13
02-10-2007, 05:35 PM
You're from rochester eh? Where abotus in the Roc. There are quite a few people on here from Rochester.

We are all over the place here! We need to start out populating the Jills fans and then we won't have to hear so much crap all the time.

IluvJuMiami
02-10-2007, 05:37 PM
Who do you want us to target if we move up?

Joe Thomas, Calvin Johnson, or Brady Quinn.

At 3/4 one of those guys is definitely going to be there.

I think Oakland goes Russell, Detroit goes Quinn, Tampa goes Johnson, Miami goes Thomas.

Or Detroit goes Thomas, Tampa Johnson, Miami Quinn.

Or Detroit Thomas, Tampa Quinn, Miami Johnson.

If Cleveland stays at 3/4 I think Peterson is automatic with Quinn a close second.

At 3/4 the possibilities are endless but we will definitely aquire one of the major talents in the draft,

CrunchTime
02-10-2007, 05:51 PM
They are free to reply if they want to but lately they are spending most of their time in the VIP forum where there is some serious discussion and where they are not subjected to abuse.

PoorRichard
02-10-2007, 06:01 PM
Hey..I'm originally from Rochester too.. (Aquinas grad)

Super Duper
02-10-2007, 06:35 PM
Hey..I'm originally from Rochester too.. (Aquinas grad)


There are a ton of us here from Rochester. A year or so back I started a rochester ny tread. A couple of us met up once and watched a game at Woodys. I might try it again this season.

I also graduated from Aquinas ('class of '99).

Mike13
02-10-2007, 08:13 PM
*Patssuck456 waits for someone to say: OMG I want to have CK's babiez!*

Boomhauer
02-10-2007, 08:16 PM
Ask Boomhauer man!

Caldolfan
02-10-2007, 08:22 PM
The only guy to go up for is Thomas, somebody that will be a stud LT this year and for 12 more.

KB21
02-10-2007, 08:26 PM
I do not believe Quinn will be there at the 9th pick. I don't see him sliding past Tampa Bay or Cleveland, whichever one picks 3rd. I think Cleveland will jump all over him. They aren't convinced that Charlie Frye is the guy they need to build around, and Brady Quinn is an Ohio native that will ignite the fan base.

As far as moving up is concerned, I don't think Miami should give up the picks to do it. Tampa Bay may be willing to move down if both Brady Quinn and Calvin Johnson are off the board, but I think it is unlikely.

Regan21286
02-10-2007, 08:38 PM
I do not believe Quinn will be there at the 9th pick. I don't see him sliding past Tampa Bay or Cleveland, whichever one picks 3rd. I think Cleveland will jump all over him. They aren't convinced that Charlie Frye is the guy they need to build around, and Brady Quinn is an Ohio native that will ignite the fan base.

As far as moving up is concerned, I don't think Miami should give up the picks to do it. Tampa Bay may be willing to move down if both Brady Quinn and Calvin Johnson are off the board, but I think it is unlikely.

I don't know if Tampa will. They already re-signed Simms and definitely need help elsewhere. If they want help at QB, I think they're better served in FA for a veteran. Cleveland also has Derek Anderson, who had been playing pretty decently subbing for Frye, I would think they need a RB or a defensive player.

SR 7
02-10-2007, 08:39 PM
I do not believe Quinn will be there at the 9th pick. I don't see him sliding past Tampa Bay or Cleveland, whichever one picks 3rd. I think Cleveland will jump all over him. They aren't convinced that Charlie Frye is the guy they need to build around, and Brady Quinn is an Ohio native that will ignite the fan base.

As far as moving up is concerned, I don't think Miami should give up the picks to do it. Tampa Bay may be willing to move down if both Brady Quinn and Calvin Johnson are off the board, but I think it is unlikely.


Ya tahts how i feel as well. You think Adams will be there for us?

Jammer13
02-10-2007, 08:59 PM
There are a ton of us here from Rochester. A year or so back I started a rochester ny tread. A couple of us met up once and watched a game at Woodys. I might try it again this season.

I also graduated from Aquinas ('class of '99).

No freaking way! I am also an Aquinas Grad (I must be the grey beard, class of '87).

Let me know when you get together again. I'll be there.

Jammer13
02-10-2007, 09:00 PM
I do not believe Quinn will be there at the 9th pick. I don't see him sliding past Tampa Bay or Cleveland, whichever one picks 3rd. I think Cleveland will jump all over him. They aren't convinced that Charlie Frye is the guy they need to build around, and Brady Quinn is an Ohio native that will ignite the fan base.

As far as moving up is concerned, I don't think Miami should give up the picks to do it. Tampa Bay may be willing to move down if both Brady Quinn and Calvin Johnson are off the board, but I think it is unlikely.

Thanks KB, I kind of figured but was hoping. Do you Levi might be the pick and we slide down? Tell Boomer and CK to come out of the VIP, I miss them!!!

popularwar
02-10-2007, 09:38 PM
I look forward to the Boomer/KB21 threads (and CK definitely has become a fountain of knowledge in the last year or so) but I always feel bad asking questions. I can just picture Boomer in England coming home after work, checking out FH only to find he has eight hundred questions waiting for him.
I love getting your opinion guys, thanks for taking the time to read and answer our questions. I hope we don't burn you out too bad this draft season.

ChambersWI
02-10-2007, 09:49 PM
KB, Booker, CK... could one of you guys tell me I'm not crazy for thinking Chris Houston will be a top 10 pick come draft day.

Even if you think I am,I've got a couple easy questions.
1)Which of these CBs do you think would be a better fit for our team; Tenard Jackson, Josh Wilson, Eric Wright, or Fred Bennett?

2)If we go pass rusher in round 1 do we take Jamaal Anderson or Gaines Adams (assuming both are still there)

3)If Levi Brown becomes a boarderline top 10 pick, do you think we take him ala Cincy with Levi Jones, or do we try to grab someone like Staley or Ugoh in Round 2 and/or weather the storm for one year with Alabi and go for a LT in next year's draft?

4)We've got Jason Allen as our FS of the future, what do you think about getting someone like Sabby Piscitelli or John Wendling to be the SS of the future?

I think that's it for now.

Stitches
02-10-2007, 09:53 PM
KB, Booker, CK... could one of you guys tell me I'm not crazy for thinking Chris Houston will be a top 10 pick come draft day.

Even if you think I am,I've got a couple easy questions.
1)Which of these CBs do you think would be a better fit for our team; Tenard Jackson, Josh Wilson, Eric Wright, or Fred Bennett?

2)If we go pass rusher in round 1 do we take Jamaal Anderson or Gaines Adams (assuming both are still there)

3)If Levi Brown becomes a boarderline top 10 pick, do you think we take him ala Cincy with Levi Jones, or do we try to grab someone like Staley or Ugoh in Round 2 and/or weather the storm for one year with Alabi and go for a LT in next year's draft?

4)We've got Jason Allen as our FS of the future, what do you think about getting someone like Sabby Piscitelli or John Wendling to be the SS of the future?

I think that's it for now.

I just want to say Levi Brown is currently a top ten caliber pick.

ChambersWI
02-10-2007, 09:59 PM
I just want to say Levi Brown is currently a top ten caliber pick.

I say boarderline so some people don't flip out at me because "he's a reach". Plus, a lot of scouts aren't totally convinced yet.

Stitches
02-10-2007, 10:10 PM
I say boarderline so some people don't flip out at me because "he's a reach". Plus, a lot of scouts aren't totally convinced yet.

Well you said "if he becomes a borderline top ten pick" but he is currently borderline, so there is no 'if' involved.

finfan54
02-10-2007, 10:31 PM
Levi Brown is only borderline if that is what you see in Levi Brown. I see a guy who is a pancake artist who locks onto his guy and stays that way. His mistakes are few. I see him being just as good as DBrickshaw Ferguson.

HelloMotto
02-10-2007, 11:42 PM
KB, Booker, CK... could one of you guys tell me I'm not crazy for thinking Chris Houston will be a top 10 pick come draft day.

Even if you think I am,I've got a couple easy questions.
1)Which of these CBs do you think would be a better fit for our team; Tenard Jackson, Josh Wilson, Eric Wright, or Fred Bennett?

2)If we go pass rusher in round 1 do we take Jamaal Anderson or Gaines Adams (assuming both are still there)

3)If Levi Brown becomes a boarderline top 10 pick, do you think we take him ala Cincy with Levi Jones, or do we try to grab someone like Staley or Ugoh in Round 2 and/or weather the storm for one year with Alabi and go for a LT in next year's draft?

4)We've got Jason Allen as our FS of the future, what do you think about getting someone like Sabby Piscitelli or John Wendling to be the SS of the future?

I think that's it for now.

can't you see your flying coach. vip is where the elite meet. :lol: sophisticated higher level talks are taking place in the privileged area. secret draft data is exchanged from our prying eyes. If you want draft data there are tons of websites. Or are you just looking for others that share your opinion and common interest. I know everyone is bored now that the season is over but you are no bigger dolphin fan by being a vip member. no breaking news will appear in the vip section before it appears right here. live cheap and live free right here in the general arena. amen......:lol:

ChambersWI
02-10-2007, 11:46 PM
I can't afford paying for VIP section; I'm getting ready for college, getting a better car, etc. Working at a coffee house only pays so much

Jaj
02-10-2007, 11:49 PM
It's worth the 24...

I'm not so sure KB. We've discussed this before but I just feel that if Oakland actually goes with Russell (by the way there's no reason that they will not necessarily go with Quinn), Quinn will slide simply because Peterson is that good of a RB.

They had a shot at Aaron Rodgers when he was top 5 worthy and they skipped for Edwards so maybe that organization isn't so set on getting a quarterback early.

Basically the situation the Fins are in is that Quinn, Russell, Adams are very unlikely. What our pick is based on is what Washington does. If they go for Branch that means he can slide to us. If they don't that means that a defensive end goes to the Vikings most likely.

Basically it's Brown or better...

Things look much better than they did a month and a half ago.

ChambersWI
02-10-2007, 11:54 PM
:lol: soon as I'm in college. I've got a chance of getting a scholarship for soccer so maybe I'll have some spare change

IluvJuMiami
02-11-2007, 12:33 AM
As far as moving up is concerned, I don't think Miami should give up the picks to do it. Tampa Bay may be willing to move down if both Brady Quinn and Calvin Johnson are off the board, but I think it is unlikely.

Thanks KB.

HelloMotto
02-11-2007, 01:37 AM
I can't afford paying for VIP section; I'm getting ready for college, getting a better car, etc. Working at a coffee house only pays so much

i'm being sarcastic. everything on the web is free. if you know what your doing. ha ha ha

Jaj
02-11-2007, 02:04 AM
Thanks KB.

Tampa doesn't have a strong trade down option anyway. Who's it going to be?
Arizona? No. Washington? No. Minnesota? Not if Calvin Johnson is there most likely, but this is the best chance for a trade I've seen. Houston? Probably not since if they show any hesitation for Quinn then Houston will just say ok then we'll just let him slip into our lap. Miami? Not likely since we don't have much ammo to trade unless your talking about trading one of our current wide receivers and then trading our current 2nd to do it.

I have considered that idea a couple of times but the only player I would do it for is Calvin Johnson anyway and I just feel like it's not worth it.

DonShula84
02-11-2007, 02:58 AM
i'm being sarcastic. everything on the web is free. if you know what your doing. ha ha ha


people pay because they want to see the site stay up and running and continue to grow, not because they expect breaking news. They dont just mooch like you.

matty3054
02-11-2007, 04:05 AM
people pay because they want to see the site stay up and running and continue to grow, not because they expect breaking news. They dont just mooch like you.

that was kind of nasty

DonShula84
02-11-2007, 06:09 AM
that was kind of nasty

It was intended to be...

PewterKrew
02-11-2007, 07:49 AM
There is always a player that drops in almost every draft this draft should be no diferent

Mainge
02-11-2007, 12:53 PM
can't you see your flying coach. vip is where the elite meet. :lol: sophisticated higher level talks are taking place in the privileged area. secret draft data is exchanged from our prying eyes. If you want draft data there are tons of websites. Or are you just looking for others that share your opinion and common interest. I know everyone is bored now that the season is over but you are no bigger dolphin fan by being a vip member. no breaking news will appear in the vip section before it appears right here. live cheap and live free right here in the general arena. amen......:lol:

Ooh, but their are VIP secrets that only VIP members have. Super secret VIP secrets. Special contests, excusive interviews, VIP Exclusive Commentary including an article written by Fineas which was AMAZING.

Not to mention, during the season, VIP members who have tickets but can't make it often give them away or sell them ridiculously cheap. You'll also have a use for Phin Dollars.

Don't kid yourself. VIP is just that much better. :wink:

Stitches
02-11-2007, 12:59 PM
I want to know what they think about Dan Bazuin (from Western Michigan). Woud he be a good pick in the 3rd? Is he a DE or LB in the NFL (like the guy from the Texans, can't think of his name right now)? Would he still be worth taking in the 3rd if we managed to get Spencer or Puz in the 2nd(it probably depends on who is on the board, huh?)?

ChambersWI
02-11-2007, 01:39 PM
I want to know what they think about Dan Bazuin (from Western Michigan). Woud he be a good pick in the 3rd? Is he a DE or LB in the NFL (like the guy from the Texans, can't think of his name right now)? Would he still be worth taking in the 3rd if we managed to get Spencer or Puz in the 2nd(it probably depends on who is on the board, huh?)?

Bazuin would be a decent 3rd round pick if we don't take Spencer in the 2nd. He'd be a pass rushing LB only, not an every down OLB in a 3-4. The only reason most people consider Jason Babin (Western Michigan player the Texans drafted you were thinking of) a bust is because he was benched as part of the 3-4. He's a great situational pass rusher, but not much else.

Boomer
02-12-2007, 10:26 AM
Bazuin is definitely a legitimate target.

We know that Mueller is very impressed with Bazuin from talking to him at the Senior Bowl.

Whoever asked about Chris Houston.....tremendous player. My #2 corner behind Darrelle Revis and one of the fastest rising players in the draft. It's not out of the equation that he could broach the top 10. He's ridiculously athletic and will test brilliantly.

BTW - I love that I was called 'Booker' in this thread.

Motion
02-12-2007, 10:30 AM
Bazuin is definitely a legitimate target.

We know that Mueller is very impressed with Bazuin from talking to him at the Senior Bowl.

Whoever asked about Chris Houston.....tremendous player. My #2 corner behind Darrelle Revis and one of the fastest rising players in the draft. It's not out of the equation that he could broach the top 10. He's ridiculously athletic and will test brilliantly.

BTW - I love that I was called 'Booker' in this thread.


Good stuff Boomer, I'm really interested to see the shifting begin and see who rises and falls.

VanDolPhan
02-12-2007, 04:36 PM
Yup should really join the VIP...been some great discussions on the draft and a hell of a lot less of the inane zoo chatter and hysteria. If you can't afford it then really watch how you post. Good posters tend to get donations into VIP

Stitches
02-12-2007, 04:54 PM
Yup should really join the VIP...been some great discussions on the draft and a hell of a lot less of the inane zoo chatter and hysteria. If you can't afford it then really watch how you post. Good posters tend to get donations into VIP

I never got donations.

kpcane
02-12-2007, 07:59 PM
Yup should really join the VIP...been some great discussions on the draft and a hell of a lot less of the inane zoo chatter and hysteria. If you can't afford it then really watch how you post. Good posters tend to get donations into VIP

The only reason I haven't joined VIP is because about 85% of the time I see "inane zoo chatter and hysteria" the posters have a nice little VIP logo next to their name. I figured it wouldn't be any better in there.

Rich22
02-13-2007, 02:58 PM
No freaking way! I am also an Aquinas Grad (I must be the grey beard, class of '87).

Let me know when you get together again. I'll be there.

I've moved away but always go back every year. I'm more of a gray beard - class of '83 from Cardinal Mooney. Always been a Phin from Rochester!

CANDolphan
02-13-2007, 10:23 PM
I honestly mean this in the most polite way...

What makes those three so special to ask for their advice, exactly? Just curious. Ive read some CKParrot threads and hes pretty insightful and comes off as very intelligent, but do they have high info that noone else does?

If so, who? I have the worlds lamest source, a mailboy in Scott Pioli's office but it actually has worked out fantastic, as Ive discovered things like the Deion Branch trade 5 days before it happened, learned of their extremely high grade on Chad Jackson and Ben Watson, etc..

That being said, any of the super 3, what is REALLY on Miami's board? Everyone says oh Miami has so many holes any position at #9 would be an upgrade... but Id love to know what their top 5 right now looks like

VanDolPhan
02-13-2007, 11:28 PM
The only reason I haven't joined VIP is because about 85% of the time I see "inane zoo chatter and hysteria" the posters have a nice little VIP logo next to their name. I figured it wouldn't be any better in there.

85% huh? Take it you major in made up statistics? :tongue:

I can go by the fact there is a grand total of 2 threads in the entire first page of the VIP that are 'orange starred' (0 red) meanwhile there are 11 on the main page at this time that are orange or red starred. The VIP is having an 'all time NFL draft' and are discussing draft material that puts the main/draft sections to shame. On top of that most threads stay in the 'debate' vein and very few get overly heated (although there is a very nice heated one going right now that's pretty funny). I hate paying for online content, but FinHeaven is definately worth it. Especially towards that cost of keeping those forums up during the draft like they did last year despite the mass numbers on the board.


I never got donations.

It happens. I couldn't afford my subscription renewal and was resigning myself to being off the VIP boards during the drafts but the members stepped up and got me covered. So when I can afford it again that money is going to go towards someone else. I'm keeping my eye out :wink:

kpcane
02-28-2007, 06:03 PM
85% huh? Take it you major in made up statistics? :tongue:

I can go by the fact there is a grand total of 2 threads in the entire first page of the VIP that are 'orange starred' (0 red) meanwhile there are 11 on the main page at this time that are orange or red starred. The VIP is having an 'all time NFL draft' and are discussing draft material that puts the main/draft sections to shame. On top of that most threads stay in the 'debate' vein and very few get overly heated (although there is a very nice heated one going right now that's pretty funny). I hate paying for online content, but FinHeaven is definately worth it. Especially towards that cost of keeping those forums up during the draft like they did last year despite the mass numbers on the board.



Yeah I'm sure the VIP section is marvelous...I'll still pass. I can only imagine how exciting and worthwhile an all time NFL draft would be.