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wilddolfan13
02-14-2007, 01:04 PM
Not a big fan of college ball and was hoping somone here can tell me... Is Calvin Johnson better than Braylon Edwards was coming out of the NCAA? Curious because we passed on Edwards a only 2 years ago.

arsenal
02-14-2007, 01:05 PM
:yes: without a doubt

Jim C. from NJ
02-14-2007, 01:09 PM
I would say so. I only saw him play 3 games but he is somewhat of a freak.

Edwards was very good in a what was thought of as a sub par draft class

VT Dolphan
02-14-2007, 01:10 PM
Yeah, Calvin Johnson is probably the best receiver prospect to come out in at least five years. He is easily the most talented player in the draft, and likely will not even be the first or second pick in the draft, which is a mistake IMO. I think Oakland should strongly consider him rather than Russell, I know QB is important, but this guy is the real deal, Russell...I'm not so sure.

dolpns13
02-14-2007, 01:13 PM
Yes-Johnson will probably be much better than Braylon...I was listening to Sirius and they were saying how much of a bust Braylon is and how good Winslow is. Albeit Edwards is still young, and the Browns, well are the Browns. When you have no QB of course your TE who now becomes your dump off guy, will become a centerpeice...Johnson is much better, and I dont think Edwards has lived up to his hype-although he does get injured alot

PJack
02-14-2007, 01:19 PM
Johnson is definitely a better overall prospect. Edwards, though, is no bust. He's been hurt for significant amount of time (yes he's a bust in that case) and their QB's have been poor. If the Raiders draft Johnson he will be a bust too until they get someone to throw him the ball. Funny thing how great receivers usually tend to have good QB's.

dolpns13
02-14-2007, 01:27 PM
Johnson is definitely a better overall prospect. Edwards, though, is no bust. He's been hurt for significant amount of time (yes he's a bust in that case) and there QB's have been poor. If the Raiders draft Johnson he will be a bust too until they get someone to throw him the ball. Funny thing how great receivers usually tend to have good QB's.

Exactly

Pocoloco
02-14-2007, 01:53 PM
Yes, Calvin Johnson is a tremendous prospect and better than any receiving prospect in the last 3-4 years.

And Braylon Edwards is no bust at all, the guy has skills, and tore us up good last season. That guy can take over games when he's healthy.

Crowder52
02-14-2007, 02:13 PM
Johnson is definitely a better overall prospect. Edwards, though, is no bust. He's been hurt for significant amount of time (yes he's a bust in that case) and their QB's have been poor. If the Raiders draft Johnson he will be a bust too until they get someone to throw him the ball. Funny thing how great receivers usually tend to have good QB's.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Johnson's QB in college was abysmal and he still put up ridiculous numbers.

Vertical Limit
02-14-2007, 02:29 PM
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Johnson's QB in college was abysmal and he still put up ridiculous numbers.
Yup, Reggie Ball didn't even complete 50% of his passes. :shakeno:

Spiff
02-14-2007, 02:40 PM
Johnson is definitely a better overall prospect. Edwards, though, is no bust. He's been hurt for significant amount of time (yes he's a bust in that case) and their QB's have been poor. If the Raiders draft Johnson he will be a bust too until they get someone to throw him the ball. Funny thing how great receivers usually tend to have good QB's.
Marvin Harrison is a great receiver and he doesn't have a good quarterback. Uhh....wait. I think he has the best......hmmmm. You might be right after all.

ottie35
02-14-2007, 03:16 PM
Calvin Johnson is one of the top prospects to EVER come out of college at that position. He jumped with a 43" verticle today, and ran a 4.33 40. That is amazing, and the guys is 6' 4" with incredible hands and feet.

TotoreMexico
02-14-2007, 03:20 PM
Not a big fan of college ball and was hoping somone here can tell me... Is Calvin Johnson better than Braylon Edwards was coming out of the NCAA? Curious because we passed on Edwards a only 2 years ago.

http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

:chuckle:

ashraf-23
02-14-2007, 03:21 PM
It is for sure that he is better then Braylon

nick1
02-14-2007, 03:34 PM
no question he is better, not very often that a guy comes out who is 6 foot 5, who can run a 4.3, and who has a very high vertical. not to mention that he runs great routes, has excellent hands and is a high character guy

ottie35
02-14-2007, 03:38 PM
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3256/googlext3.jpg

:chuckle:

LOL, nice.

Hoot {MWB}
02-14-2007, 03:38 PM
All this talk of trading up to the 4th slot for a chance at Johnson or Quinn, I got to tell ya...I'd hate to see our 2nd pick go because of this, we have too many needs....but if it means acquiring Calvin Johnson, it'd be hard to say "no". He will soon become a man among boys in the NFL. That isn't a prediction, it's common sense.

ottie35
02-14-2007, 03:45 PM
All this talk of trading up to the 4th slot for a chance at Johnson or Quinn, I got to tell ya...I'd hate to see our 2nd pick go because of this, we have too many needs....but if it means acquiring Clavin Johnson, it'd be hard to say "no". He will soon become a man among boys in the NFL. That isn't a prediction, it's common sense.

I agree 100% with you, it isnt often that a player of this caliber comes around, kind of like a eclipse. He is the real deal. I say do whatever we have to get him on our team.........he will make any QB better.

SQuinn17
02-14-2007, 04:14 PM
this guys is the best receiver to come out since larry fitzgerald. dude is sick!!!!!!

South Florida
02-14-2007, 04:20 PM
MUCH faster than Fitzgerald.

Hoot {MWB}
02-14-2007, 04:24 PM
What was Fitz's 40 time?

Crowder52
02-14-2007, 04:28 PM
I read somewhere that Fitz ran in the low 4.6 range. I just tried to search for it online and couldn't find the official one anywhere.

arsenal
02-14-2007, 04:37 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif

:chuckle:

haha that is a great picture

dolphin23
02-14-2007, 05:20 PM
Im starting to warm up with this idea, didnt really follow this guy during the reg season but I checked him out at you tube and seeing what I saw wouldn't mind trading up for this guy.

FinNasty
02-14-2007, 05:22 PM
Not a big fan of college ball and was hoping somone here can tell me... Is Calvin Johnson better than Braylon Edwards was coming out of the NCAA? Curious because we passed on Edwards a only 2 years ago.

He is a bigger... faster version of Larry Fitz...

Except I would say Larry has a little bit better body control...

But CJ is that good...

caneaddict
02-14-2007, 05:39 PM
He is a bigger... faster version of Larry Fitz...

Except I would say Larry has a little bit better body control...

But CJ is that good...


Fitz has great body control but Calvin also has amazing body control. Have you seen him stop his body in mid air and turn around reversing direction to get to the ball? I would call it a tie because I would be hard pressed to say someone has better body control than CJ.