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Lab3003
02-14-2007, 08:45 PM
I read on a great site, http://www.thephinsider.com (http://www.thephinsider.com/), the Dolphins are heavily considering drafting Brady Quinn at #9. They are attempting to attract QB coach Terry Shea to work for the Dolphins. Shea is currently working with Quinn to prepare him for the NFL Combine in Indianapolis.

If the decision is between Ginn, Jr. and Quinn, I would have a terrible time deciding between the two. Both would upgrade the corps of their respective positions. Then there is Dwayne Jarrett, however he is thought to run in the low 4.6's, so he isn't worth in my opinion a #9 overall pick, especially considering the type of Air Coryell offense the Dolphins hope to install.

Don't make a decision until you see the highlight reels below:

Ted Ginn Jr.
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Brady Quinn
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dominizzo
02-14-2007, 08:51 PM
Neither!! id like Gaines Adams

marcodolphin
02-14-2007, 09:05 PM
i pick both

WISfinfan13
02-14-2007, 09:10 PM
man the more i see brady quinn highlights the more i like him...Although we have to keep them in perspective and remember these are highlights and dont show the struggles...But with that being said coming into offseason i was totally against brady but i have decided if we draft him i will not be upset at all and think he has a decent chance to be a good pro...Jaws said the other day that he thinks in couple years brady quinn will be one of the elite in the nfl and i respect his opioion more then those other bozo's on espn so i say bring him on....

SR 7
02-14-2007, 09:27 PM
ok i think a lot has to do with...im assuming tho, not 100% sure, I CAN be wrong, that he is so successful b/c his line gives him about 10 seconds to throw, in half of those passes he is standing there bored out of his mind before he throws the ball. If i get time like that i can do something as well also he is about 10 yards behind the O line half the time.

although I DO want him and wanted him last year as well.

testtubetimmy
02-14-2007, 09:27 PM
Ginn Jr, if we're basing it soley on these two highlight reels.

Not only can he make people miss and get into the endzone, he can do it on punt returns and kickoffs too.

Not to mention, I think its easier for a receiver to make the transition to the NFL then it is a quarterback, especially given all the variables. Brady Quinn can be the greatest QB ever, but if our O Line still sucks, he wont do much. But if Daunte or Joey or Cleo or whoever is under center can get the ball to Ginn, I think he has enough talent to make a play down the field.

Thats my own opinion. I'd love to have a franchise QB. Right now, every QB on our roster has a chance at making the team as the starter, and if Cam is as good with QBs as we think he is, they each have the potential to grow into a franchise QB. Do we really need to throw another QB into the mix?

IluvJuMiami
02-14-2007, 09:46 PM
Neither!! id like Gaines Adams

A DE? For a top 5 defense? With a pro bowl DE? And continue to ignore the O? DomiNOzzo.

I think Ted Ginn Jr is has the biggest upside potential in the draft. If the guy pays out, and it's as big of "if" as any other player in the draft, but if Ginn does pay out, two words: CHA CHING.

On the other hand, it doesn't get more important at QB where we've been bleeding the last eight years. The mighty Quinn has gauzes.

Ronski_doodle
02-14-2007, 09:51 PM
A DE? For a top 5 defense? With a pro bowl DE? And continue to ignore the O? DomiNOzzo.

Defense wins Championships. Even this year the Colts D is what changed the Super Bowl.
I like the DT from Louisville Imobi (Sapp comparisons)

IluvJuMiami
02-14-2007, 09:57 PM
Defense wins Championships. Even this year the Colts D is what changed the Super Bowl.
I like the DT from Louisville Imobi (Sapp comparisons)

The kid is not a true NT in the 3/4 and is 19 years old. Do you really expect a 19 year old to come into the NFL and beat up on veteran Oline hogs? The kid is a 2-3 year project.

And you're absolutely correct. Defense wins superbowls. We have a top 5 defense. And we've had it for quite some time. We're still superbowl less. Defense may win superbowls but offense get's you there.

In the end, it's really a balance because it wasn't the Indi defense that sealed the deal here in Miami, it was Rex Gossman(never has a last name been so accurate).

Delfin 22
02-14-2007, 10:22 PM
Brady Quinn all the time baby.....all the time....

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VT Dolphan
02-14-2007, 10:32 PM
Hmmm...do we take a franchise QB or a very unpolished, risky wide receiver who relies solely on speed? I am truely torn.

jlfin
02-14-2007, 10:36 PM
man the more i see brady quinn highlights the more i like him...Although we have to keep them in perspective and remember these are highlights and dont show the struggles...But with that being said coming into offseason i was totally against brady but i have decided if we draft him i will not be upset at all and think he has a decent chance to be a good pro...Jaws said the other day that he thinks in couple years brady quinn will be one of the elite in the nfl and i respect his opioion more then those other bozo's on espn so i say bring him on....


I agree, that's why I find it befuddling that some people would rather take a backup WR/KR/PR (Ginn) over a franchise QB.
Ginn has done absolutely nothing in college that suggests he would be an elite WR in the NFL. He looks like the reincarnation of Rocket Ismael.

jlfin
02-14-2007, 10:37 PM
Ginn Jr, if we're basing it soley on these two highlight reels.

Not only can he make people miss and get into the endzone, he can do it on punt returns and kickoffs too.

Not to mention, I think its easier for a receiver to make the transition to the NFL then it is a quarterback, especially given all the variables. Brady Quinn can be the greatest QB ever, but if our O Line still sucks, he wont do much. But if Daunte or Joey or Cleo or whoever is under center can get the ball to Ginn, I think he has enough talent to make a play down the field.

Thats my own opinion. I'd love to have a franchise QB. Right now, every QB on our roster has a chance at making the team as the starter, and if Cam is as good with QBs as we think he is, they each have the potential to grow into a franchise QB. Do we really need to throw another QB into the mix?

YES

Crzynick25
02-14-2007, 10:43 PM
ok i think a lot has to do with...im assuming tho, not 100% sure, I CAN be wrong, that he is so successful b/c his line gives him about 10 seconds to throw, in half of those passes he is standing there bored out of his mind before he throws the ball. If i get time like that i can do something as well also he is about 10 yards behind the O line half the time.

although I DO want him and wanted him last year as well.

Have you watched any Notre Dame games this year?
their Oline was awful. Probably in the botton half of the country. The whole team was pretty bad except Quinn and the receivers, Darius walker is a barely above average back who will fight to be a 3rd down back in the pros, their line was horrible this year, and their defense was even worse but yet he led them to a BSC game. Not To mention he spent the last two years running a Pro offense while all the other QB's were running watered down college offenses. if he struggled in big games its cause their team was so bad in so many areas, Quinn and the Receiving corp are what kept them in games

TheMageGandalf
02-14-2007, 11:12 PM
Well, I dont claim to see the future...BUT...I've been around football enough to get a gut feeling about certain players.

This draft, its Brady Quinn.

If my gut is right....again...this kid is going to be VERY GOOD for someone.

I hope its us....problem is...whenever I have a gut feeling some guy is going to be good...he's always gone before we pick...or worse...we go in another direction :boohoo:

Then all I can do is sigh and wonder what if.....

Dol_Fan_4_Ever
02-14-2007, 11:25 PM
Have you watched any Notre Dame games this year?
their Oline was awful. Probably in the botton half of the country. The whole team was pretty bad except Quinn and the receivers, Darius walker is a barely above average back who will fight to be a 3rd down back in the pros, their line was horrible this year, and their defense was even worse but yet he led them to a BSC game. Not To mention he spent the last two years running a Pro offense while all the other QB's were running watered down college offenses. if he struggled in big games its cause their team was so bad in so many areas, Quinn and the Receiving corp are what kept them in games

I agree with the above post. When they actually played a good ranked team such as Michigan or USC, the weaknesses of the o-line and the defense were shown. But from that 5 minutes of footage, most of the time they played a horrible team such as army, navy, northwestern, air force, the list goes on. A couple of the throws as well, you'd really have to credit his receivers for making those great catches because he doesn't seem to be the most accurate. However if we are cutting Joey and Quinn is there at #9, you can't not pick him.

67Stang
02-14-2007, 11:32 PM
OMG that Ginn hi light was awesome, thanks a lot. I knew he was fast, but that was just sick how fast he accelerates and how much faster he was than anybody.... Great gooogly moogly

Vegas dolfan
02-15-2007, 01:05 AM
Ginn might be a risk but if he is half as good as he was at ohio state were talking superstar. He will be one of the fastest players in the nfl , good hands, and moves like no one else. Brady will be ok but not real impressed with him. I pick Ginn!! We need someone like him.

ottie35
02-15-2007, 01:05 AM
You guys can have both of them, this is who i want in the second round, after we take gaines in the first round.......this kid is amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkci1jSX5B0

endorPHINS72
02-15-2007, 01:05 AM
Have you watched any Notre Dame games this year?
their Oline was awful. Probably in the botton half of the country. The whole team was pretty bad except Quinn and the receivers, Darius walker is a barely above average back who will fight to be a 3rd down back in the pros, their line was horrible this year, and their defense was even worse but yet he led them to a BSC game. Not To mention he spent the last two years running a Pro offense while all the other QB's were running watered down college offenses. if he struggled in big games its cause their team was so bad in so many areas, Quinn and the Receiving corp are what kept them in games


Darius Walker is a very good running back and will make a fine pro.

Tureo
02-15-2007, 01:11 AM
A DE? For a top 5 defense? With a pro bowl DE? And continue to ignore the O? DomiNOzzo.

I think Ted Ginn Jr is has the biggest upside potential in the draft. If the guy pays out, and it's as big of "if" as any other player in the draft, but if Ginn does pay out, two words: CHA CHING.

On the other hand, it doesn't get more important at QB where we've been bleeding the last eight years. The mighty Quinn has gauzes.
Ginn reminds me of Daunte Stallworth. He has speed and he is quite elusive but, can he stay healthy? Futhermore, is he polished enough to be a #1 WR. So far he has been a great PR/KR and a good WR at OSU.

AirMarino83
02-15-2007, 01:33 AM
Ginn reminds me of Daunte Stallworth. He has speed and he is quite elusive but, can he stay healthy? Futhermore, is he polished enough to be a #1 WR. So far he has been a great PR/KR and a good WR at OSU.

waaaay ot... but madvilliany is one of the best all time.
"america's most blunted... blunted... blunted..."

SR 7
02-15-2007, 01:43 AM
Well, I dont claim to see the future...BUT...I've been around football enough to get a gut feeling about certain players.

This draft, its Brady Quinn.

If my gut is right....again...this kid is going to be VERY GOOD for someone.

I hope its us....problem is...whenever I have a gut feeling some guy is going to be good...he's always gone before we pick...or worse...we go in another direction :boohoo:

Then all I can do is sigh and wonder what if.....

yea thats how i am. thats how i actually felt when 9ers were on teh board and i wnated smith but i knew RB was goin to be the better player and was ok with etiher one.

quinn reminds me of a manning type as far as pocket QB goes, meaning the potential he has, not saying he is going to be THAT great but saying the potential to be the brady/manning pocket QB but yet the far Mobile one is there.

jason8er
02-15-2007, 11:26 AM
I'll take Quinn's big #89. Can he block too?

finfan54
02-17-2007, 12:50 AM
why only two choices? Not realistic at all. I hope Minny reaches bigtime so we dont even have to think about Ginn at all.

Mari0k
02-17-2007, 11:00 PM
Dont get me wrong..I LIKE Teddy Ginn alot. But if Quinn will be on the board..gotta take him over Ginn.

PeterNorth
02-18-2007, 04:37 AM
Ginn's acceleration is just unreal. It is crazy how fast he gets up to top speed. I love him-just not with the 9th pick in the draft. I feel he simply would be too much of a risk that high. If you take a WR that high in the draft, they had better be a surefire #1, and while Ginn's upside is simply off the charts, I have difficulty envisioning him as a true elite #1 receiver in the NFL. His frame is small, his hands are just ok at best, and his route running and overall instincts as a receiver are real raw. A lot of that may be able to be improved on with coaching, but it seems like more risk than we should be taking that high in the draft. He will easily be a top return man from the get go, but when we saw what Devin Hester did last year and where the Bears drafted him, it doesn't make Ginn at #9 look like that great of a value pick.

As for Quinn, I love the fire and leadership he exhibits. He just looks like he was born to play the position. His arm isn't going to blow anyone's doors off, but he can make all the NFL throws. That said, I would like to see just a bit more zip on some of his balls. He has good touch, though, and we all know he is a really intelligent guy.

I can much more easily get behind drafting Quinn at 9 than Ginn-part of that may be because it has been WAY too long since we have drafted a QB who had potential to be a franchise type guy, but also because he is just a much better value at that spot in the draft. I feel Quinn has a better chance of being a top QB than Ginn does to be a top WR.

lynchmobb34
02-18-2007, 06:55 AM
Hmmm...do we take a franchise QB or a very unpolished, risky wide receiver who relies solely on speed? I am truely torn.

Its like you were reading my mind!

Vertical Limit
02-18-2007, 09:48 AM
I really hate 8-Mile. :lol:

But this is a no brainer poll. Brady Quinn all the way. Ted Ginn Jr. doesn't deserve to be in the 1st round. I rather have Mecheam, Jarrett and Sidney Rice over Ted Ginn Jr.

Phanatical
02-18-2007, 09:58 AM
OK, I would definitely rather have a potential franchise QB over a WR any day.

I doubt Quinn falls to #9, therefore I would take Levi Brown if available and Ryan Kalil if both Quinn and Brown are gone. It's the OL and QB positions that need to be solidified for this team to be a contender.

Ginn wouldn't be on my radar screen. Although they were not very good last year, WR's are the least of our problems. Ginn shouldn't even be on the Phins wish list.