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nyfinzfan
02-17-2007, 08:20 PM
I was wondering if anyone has seen these guys play or has any opinions on them from this small school players article on rotoworld.com
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=NFL&columnid=60&articleid=27776
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Dolfan4life34
02-17-2007, 08:33 PM
lB Zak DeOssie this guy looks like a good late rd Lb to take a chance on mayb in round 6

Pocoloco
02-17-2007, 08:41 PM
I've been high on Justin Durant for a while, the guy can flat out play. Some people project him at ILB in the NFL, but I think he has the speed to make it as a OLB

uga3406
02-17-2007, 10:57 PM
im a long time season ticket holder for princeton and saw deossie play 2 times over the 4 years and he was great ..aganist princeton last year on a fri nite he had 16 tackless..he is a machine...not sure he is a day 1 pick but another guy not on anyones radar and is gonna not going to get drafted is clifton dawson rb from harvard..he broke the ivy league rushing record this year and he was terrific...he is super fast once he got to the corner he was gone..he finished with 21 td's this past season...he can even catch a few passes here and there..he is only 5'10 but he is the real deal..i know he has not been mentioned or invited to the combine i just thought i throw it out there....:dolphins:

PewterKrew
02-17-2007, 11:23 PM
Buzain / Cain / Durant could all be picked in the third round if their combine goes well as all are from small schools put were very productive players

305finforlife
02-18-2007, 08:56 AM
Taurean Charles BCC (ILB/OLB) he would have been Defensive MVP if not for Durant, transfer from UF, he can talk/play the run and has the speed to play in pass coverage.

Alex44
02-18-2007, 09:08 AM
David Ball #5....thats a joke. He should be the hands down #1 on that list with no exceptions. I'll stake my reputation now by saying he will be the second best WR in this draft behind Calvin Johnson.

miamiron
02-18-2007, 09:51 AM
Acouple of others are

Wide receiver Aaron Fairooz,this guy went to central Arkansas and stands 6'6" TALL,weighs 215,4.55 40 time
he played 47 games with 167 rec and 2797 total yards,and 26 tds

Wide receiver...Laurent Robinson...Ill state...6'2" 195lbs,4.55 40 time...
43 games,192 rec..3007 total yards,29 tds
BOTH KOULD BE POTENTIAL FIRST YEAR STARS LIKE COLSTON

I would love to get Aaron in the latter rounds because at 6'6" with decent speed and excellent jumping ability he would cause problems for opposing teams...

miamiron
02-18-2007, 10:04 AM
I have been high on Dan Bazuin from the start.
His stats feel off a bit this year because of his brothers suicide and a nagging injury but check out his stats for 2005
74 tackles,26.5 for a loss,and 16 sacks

I remember reading that Joe Staley saying that Bazuin was by far the best player on there team and what made Staley better was going up aginst Bazuin every day in practice.Scouts have been saying that the kid has the motor,speed,and skills to move to OLB.

Bazuin has been spending almost 2 months at Parisi speed and conditioning school to improve his combine numbers...for anyone not familiar with parisi.com ...check them out

Silverphin
02-18-2007, 10:57 AM
Nell Faulk FAU. I'm not trying to be an Owls homer: His performance against Gaine Adams alone should put him on that list.

jim1
02-19-2007, 02:01 PM
I was wondering if anyone has seen these guys play or has any opinions on them from this small school players article on rotoworld.com
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=NFL&columnid=60&articleid=27776
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What about Jacoby Jones WR from Lane? Has anybody seen this guy play? His triangle #'s look good, but I've never seen him play, would like to hear from anyone who has. Here's a list of sleepers from NFL Draft Countdown:

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/sleepers.html

#Name Position College
1.Ben Patrick (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/te/benpatrick.html)TEDelaware
2.Jacoby Jones (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/jacobyjones.html)WRLane
3.Michael Coe (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/michaelcoe.html)CBAlabama St.
4.Justin Durant (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/olb/justindurant.html)OLBHampton
5.Travarous Bain (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/travarousbain.html)CBHampton
6.Zak DeOssie (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ilb/zakdeossie.html)ILBBrown
7.Allen Barbre (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/allenbarbre.html)OTMissouri Southern St.
8.David Ball (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/davidball.html)WRNew Hampshire
9.Laurent Robinson (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/laurentrobinson.html)WRIllinois St.
10.Jacob Ford (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/jacobford.html)DECentral Arkansas
11.Michael Allan (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/te/michaelallan.html)TEWhitworth
12.Corey Graham (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/coreygraham.html)CBNew Hampshire
13.Daren Stone (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/darenstone.html)SMaine
14.Eldra Buckley (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/rb/eldrabuckley.html)RBChattanooga
15.Bo Smith (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/bosmith.html)CBWeber St.
16.Marquay McDaniel (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/marquaymcdaniel.html)WRHampton
17.Matt Gutierrez (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/mattgutierrez.html)QBIdaho St.
18.Justin Rascati (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/justinrascati.html)QBJames Madison
19.Gijon Robinson (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/te/gijonrobinson.html)TEMissouri Western
20.Alonzo Coleman (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/rb/alonzocoleman.html)RBHampton
21.Germaine Race (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/rb/germainerace.html)RBPittsburg St.
22.Onrea Jones (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/onreajones.html)WRHampton
23.Toby Korrodi (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/tobykorrodi.html)QBCentral Missouri
24.Aaron Fairooz (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/aaronfairooz.html)WRCentral Arkansas
25.Mike Mason (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/mikemason.html)WRTennessee St.
26.Kevin Boss (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/te/kevinboss.html)TEWestern Oregon
27.Craig Dahl (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/craigdahl.html)SNorth Dakota St.
28.Elliot Vallejo (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/elliotvallejo.html)OTCal-Davis
29.Alvin Banks (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/rb/alvinbanks.html)RBJames Madison
30.Chad Nkang (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/olb/chadnkang.html)OLBElon

I like the looks of Michael Coe, too. He tranferred from Arkansas to Alabama St. to play for his father. Maybe this guy will make a solid move up after the combine, he is invited. I wonder how he compared to Chris Houston when he was at Arkansas.

Motion
02-19-2007, 02:11 PM
David Ball #5....thats a joke. He should be the hands down #1 on that list with no exceptions. I'll stake my reputation now by saying he will be the second best WR in this draft behind Calvin Johnson.

And that is??? :goof:

jim1
02-19-2007, 03:03 PM
And that is??? :goof:

That's a lot of defense in your mock, and a kicker to boot. Pun intended. That's too much defense for my taste. We'll never compete without an influx of offensive talent, and on top of that I'm tired of boring games. The only possible defensive pick re: 1st round that does much for me is Gaines Adams. We need offense, end of story.

Motion
02-19-2007, 03:07 PM
That's a lot of defense in your mock, and a kicker to boot. Pun intended. That's too much defense for my taste. We'll never compete without an influx of offensive talent, and on top of that I'm tired of boring games. The only possible defensive pick re: 1st round that does much for me is Gaines Adams. We need offense, end of story.

Whats that have to do with this thread?

My Mock could end up going:

1. Brown
2. Kalil

Not to mention FA signings.

Still not enough offense?

Well, guess thats why its MY mock and not yours. :tongue::wink:

I personally don't think the offense is all that far off with the right coaching. Could definitely use an upgrade at a few spots, especially the line, but I think Cam's playcalling will fill the biggest need for our offense.

jim1
02-19-2007, 03:18 PM
Whats that have to do with this thread?

My Mock could end up going:

1. Brown
2. Kalil

Not to mention FA signings.

Still not enough offense?

Well, guess thats why its MY mock and not yours. :tongue::wink:

I personally don't think the offense is all that far off with the right coaching. Could definitely use an upgrade at a few spots, especially the line, but I think Cam's playcalling will fill the biggest need for our offense.

I'm not commenting or your last post, not much interest in that tangent regarding the other guy's reputation. Your mock is listed under the post of your own volition, that's what I'm commenting on. Far too heavily laden with defensive players and kickers for my taste, no offense intended.

Motion
02-19-2007, 03:22 PM
I'm not commenting or your last post, not much interest in that tangent regarding the other guy's reputation. Your mock is listed under the post of your own volition, that's what I'm commenting on. Far too heavily laden with defensive players and kickers for my taste, no offense intended.

No offense taken. :wink:

I'm a big fan of a dominant secondary, so I would really like to see a ballhawk back there. But at the same time wouldn't be opposed to a solid LT either. I'm all for making the Oline bulletproof. I'm also on the "Let's give Daunte a legit chance bandwagon" as well, although I wouldn't be opposed to Quinn if he was there. And yes I definitely am ready to part ways with Mare, so I'm all for using a 6th on a Kicker.

jim1
02-19-2007, 03:30 PM
No offense taken. :wink:

I'm a big fan of a dominant secondary, so I would really like to see a ballhawk back there. But at the same time wouldn't be opposed to a solid LT either. I'm all for making the Oline bulletproof. I'm also on the "Let's give Daunte a legit chance bandwagon" as well, although I wouldn't be opposed to Quinn if he was there. And yes I definitely am ready to part ways with Mare, so I'm all for using a 6th on a Kicker.

Points well taken. I'm at a fatal, self imposed disadvantage because I don't pour over game film like some of the other guys, and therefore I find my opinions to be limited in terms of value. I read what I can and I'm not shy of asking the opinions of knowledgeable people. Given a different set of circumstances I would be quite happy to add either Landry or Nelson, tremendous safeties. I was really impressed by what I saw of Gaines Adams, and I just loved his speed, quickness, and especially his first step.

I remain confused on Brown, Ginn, and Quinn, but quite frankly I would be happy with any of the three. I think that we have to attack the triangle of weakness, QB/WR/OL,and I'd say do it now while we still have a top tier D.

Motion
02-19-2007, 03:33 PM
Points well taken. I'm at a fatal disadvantage because I don't pour over game film like some of the other guys, and therefore I find my opinions to be limited in terms of value. I read what I can and I'm not shy of asking the opinions of knowledgeable people. Given a different set of circumstances I would be quite happy to add either Landry or Nelson, tremendous safeties. I was really impressed by what I saw of Gaines Adams, and I just loved his speed, quickness, and especially his first step.

I remain confused on Brown, Ginn, and Quinn, but quite frankly I would be happy with any of the three. I think that we have to attack the triangle of weakness, QB/WR/OL,and I'd say do it now while we still have a top tier D.

I agree, Love to have Brown in the 1st then Meachem in the 2nd, but I think Meachem's combine numbers will put him up to mid-late 1st.

jim1
02-19-2007, 03:39 PM
I agree, Love to have Brown in the 1st then Meachem in the 2nd, but I think Meachem's combine numbers will put him up to mid-late 1st.

Yeah, that sounds great to me. I'm really warming up to Sidney Rice, and if we could land a Brown/Rice combo and then pick up BPA at OL or maybe DB in the 3rd, I would absolutely fine with that. Add OLB Brian Smith or one of the top centers in the 4th (Mozes, Young), and we'd be on a roll.

p.s. I heard that Kyle Young had some personal/football issues this year, but I'm sensing a potential steal with him. Anyone have any more info or opinions?

Motion
02-19-2007, 03:41 PM
Yeah, that sounds great to me. I'm really warming up to Sidney Rice, and if we could land a Brown/Rice combo and then pick up BPA at OL or maybe DB in the 3rd, I would absolutely fine with that. Add OLB Brian Smith or one of the top centers in the 4th (Mozes, Young), and we'd be on a roll.

p.s. I heard that Kyle Young had some personal/football issues this year, but I'm sensing a potential steal with him. Anyone have any more info or opinions?

:lol: Sounds good to me as well.

ckparrothead
02-19-2007, 03:51 PM
I haven't read the article but among the small school sleepers I have are the following:


Toby Korrodi
Justin Rascati
Garrett Wolfe
Kevin Boss
Michael Allen
Jacoby Jones
David Ball (of course)
James Jones (dunno if SJSU qualifies as small school, but whatever)
Maurice Price
Corey Davis
Doug Free (of course)
Joe Staley (not a sleeper, potential first rounder)
Allen Barbre (story is out on him too)
Edgar Jones
Dan Bazuin (not a sleeper at all, really...potential first rounder)
Justin Durant (story's out on him)
Stephen Nicholas (prolly can't get away with calling USF a small school anymore)
Cameron Siskowic
Travarous Bain (I think the story's out on him...probably)
Michael Coe (story definitely out on him, was in Senior Bowl)
Bo Smith
Kevin Payne (story definitely out on him too)
Daren Stone
Craig Dahl
Chan Nkang
Andre Kirkland

EDIT: I can't believe I forgot Andy Alleman.

Stitches
02-19-2007, 04:52 PM
I haven't read the article but among the small school sleepers I have are the following:


Toby Korrodi
Justin Rascati
Garrett Wolfe
Kevin Boss
Michael Allen
Jacoby Jones
David Ball (of course)
James Jones (dunno if SJSU qualifies as small school, but whatever)
Maurice Price
Corey Davis
Doug Free (of course)
Joe Staley (not a sleeper, potential first rounder)
Allen Barbre (story is out on him too)
Edgar Jones
Dan Bazuin (not a sleeper at all, really...potential first rounder)
Justin Durant (story's out on him)
Stephen Nicholas (prolly can't get away with calling USF a small school anymore)
Cameron Siskowic
Travarous Bain (I think the story's out on him...probably)
Michael Coe (story definitely out on him, was in Senior Bowl)
Bo Smith
Kevin Payne (story definitely out on him too)
Daren Stone
Craig Dahl
Chan Nkang
Andre Kirkland

EDIT: I can't believe I forgot Andy Alleman.

:woot: Alleman is sweet. Kennedy ran behind him all year, it was guaranteed yardage pretty much.

I really like Jacoby Jones, Durant, and Bazuin too.

ckparrothead
02-19-2007, 04:54 PM
Well everyone loves Bazuin...and as things continue to get heated up, he's a terrific interview and I'm willing to bet he bumps right up against the first round, maybe even cracks it...depending on what happens in Indy.

CANDolphan
02-20-2007, 05:54 AM
Me personally, I look for Miami to pick up a speed WR/KR specialist.. such as Yamon Figures from Kansas State ( he's BLAZING fast.. faster than Devin Hester.. atleast, was back in highschool according to Florida records ) He could have be had on day 2..

I also would like a nab at Eric Wright, from UNLV. He was a blue chip prospect who was dismissed from USC but he is every bit as athletic as anyone, from what I read. Here is one of his scouting reports.

http://www.fantasyfootballjungle.com/y/nfl-draft/prospects/index.php?id=673

I honestly didnt figure him going until the 3rd round, so I thought we could possibly grab him there, but who knows... some have him going in the 2nd round!

I'd also look Miami to look long and hard at Jemalle Cornelius out of Florida. He's going to have a great 40 time, and he's extremely fast. He's small, though, at 5'11 185, but he could be a decent speed guy to bring in during the 4th round.

jim1
02-20-2007, 07:26 AM
Me personally, I look for Miami to pick up a speed WR/KR specialist.. such as Yamon Figures from Kansas State ( he's BLAZING fast.. faster than Devin Hester.. atleast, was back in highschool according to Florida records ) He could have be had on day 2..

I also would like a nab at Eric Wright, from UNLV. He was a blue chip prospect who was dismissed from USC but he is every bit as athletic as anyone, from what I read. Here is one of his scouting reports.

http://www.fantasyfootballjungle.com/y/nfl-draft/prospects/index.php?id=673

I honestly didnt figure him going until the 3rd round, so I thought we could possibly grab him there, but who knows... some have him going in the 2nd round!

I'd also look Miami to look long and hard at Jemalle Cornelius out of Florida. He's going to have a great 40 time, and he's extremely fast. He's small, though, at 5'11 185, but he could be a decent speed guy to bring in during the 4th round.

Figurs' 40-time as reported by Kansas State:

Skilled receiver with 4.29 speed in the 40... Considered to be one of the Big 12’s top deep threats... Is also a dangerous kickoff return man... Has been among K-State’s top receivers each of the past two seasons.

http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3062&SPID=212&DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=35724&Q_SEASON=2006

Here's an Eric Wright interview that just came out:

Eric Wright Interview
February 20, 2007

After a very promising start at Southern Cal Eric Wright's career got sidetracked by off-the-field troubles but after transferring to UNLV he quickly reemerged as a legitimate pro prospect. Already a Day One pick after entering the draft as an underclassmen, Wright will try to impress scouts and move up draft boards between now and April. Eric recently spoke with Scott Wright just days before he hopes to put on a show at the Combine.




Scott Wright: What is your accurate height, weight and forty time?

Eric Wright: I’m 5-11, 190 lbs. My forty time is going to be determined in Indianapolis but it’s going to be fast, I’ll say that. I just kind of want to wait and not really put anything out there but it’s definitely going to be fast.

Scott Wright: We’ll get the tough one out of the way first. You had some well-documented off-the-field troubles while at USC that could affect your draft stock. In your words what exactly was the situation there and how will you answer when NFL teams ask about it?

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/interviews/ericwright/ericwright.html

ckparrothead
02-20-2007, 12:49 PM
The thing you have to like about Yamon Figurs is that he went to his All-Star Game (the Hula Bowl) and he did the same thing he was known for at K-State. He returned the ball like a demon.

jim1
02-20-2007, 12:59 PM
The thing you have to like about Yamon Figurs is that he went to his All-Star Game (the Hula Bowl) and he did the same thing he was known for at K-State. He returned the ball like a demon.

He does sound interesting, I wish that I had a chance to see him play.

Geforce
02-20-2007, 01:04 PM
Yeah, that sounds great to me. I'm really warming up to Sidney Rice, and if we could land a Brown/Rice combo and then pick up BPA at OL or maybe DB in the 3rd, I would absolutely fine with that. Add OLB Brian Smith or one of the top centers in the 4th (Mozes, Young), and we'd be on a roll.

p.s. I heard that Kyle Young had some personal/football issues this year, but I'm sensing a potential steal with him. Anyone have any more info or opinions?

Young was suspended the final four games for academic violations.

ckparrothead
02-20-2007, 01:19 PM
Young was suspended the final four games for academic violations.

He's overweight and he plays lazy. I'm not interested.

jim1
02-20-2007, 02:00 PM
He's overweight and he plays lazy. I'm not interested.

Was he lazy all four years or just the last? It seems that he was very highly rated until last season, and then fell off a cliff draft-wise.

ckparrothead
02-20-2007, 02:13 PM
Was he lazy all four years or just the last? It seems that he was very highly rated until last season, and then fell off a cliff draft-wise.

He was rated high based on his unusual size and power for the position, and the perception that his lack of speed and conditioning was not a drawback. It just became apparent in 2006 that it was indeed a drawback. He and Louis Leonard were big ******* in 2006.

srdnaty
02-28-2007, 12:11 AM
draft daren stone... 5th round. i've seen 4-6th round on him. he will be this sh!t!