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uga3406
02-18-2007, 03:00 AM
So here goes...Im banking on that the phins don't sign Thomas from Baltimore but do sign Stallworth from Philly and Davis from Arizona...I think Davis has some potential more then people know.


1.Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame - you all know him very well.Here is why he is the 1st pick at # 9.1st of all he is going to be a great Qb and 2nd this team does not know what they are going to get from Culpepper.As a organiziation they cannot wait around to see if he is gonna return to his old ways.So in drafting Quinn you have the future.I believe that this can only benefit the team and upgrade the position.For years now this team has gone thru Qb's last and right well now with this pick we would have our franschise Qb for the next 10-15 years.When a player like this comes around only once you just can't pass on him.

2.Ryan Kalil - C - Usc - I know i bet a few of you are wondering why no Lb or tackle at this position.Well in the case of Kalil what u have is the next coming of Dwight Stephenson just reincarnated.Sorta like Marino/Stephenson now u would have Quinn/Kalil.Those two would be the future and what you get in Kalil is the anchor of the OL.He would become the leader that this OL sorely needs and hasn't had for years.He is another guy who is to just too good to pass up on.

3.Earl Everett - LB - Florida - Would be a great addition to the Lb Corps that we need.Would be a instant starter in '07.Great in coverage and is very quick which is a added plus since we got no production from this position in '07 imo.

4.Lorenzo Booker - RB - Florida ST. - Would be a upgrade as our 3rd down back.Also could do kickoffs or punt return's as well.Great pass catcher and has great speed.This is something we do need.Speed is the main quality here.When was the last time this team did a screen pass and the rb toke off 60 yards down the field.Booker could be that guy for us.

6.Chris Denman - OT - Fresno ST. - at 6'6, 305 Denman is the real deal.Never hurts to have an extra tackle and could be a great backup and maybe be a insurance case for Davis.Great at run and pass blocking.Very aggressive and never quits on any plays.

7.John Talley - CB - Duke - He is 6'0, 188 and would be a steal if he was still there in the 7th round.He finished with 18 career int's and had a career high 7 this year.Pretty physical player and not afraid to take chances every now and then.Could be used in the dime where our cb's were very weak.


Well there you go.im sure there will be many gripes but i expect it.This is my 1st proble not my last 1 but this is just a rough idea.Thank you .....

Phinsfan-Jay
02-18-2007, 03:22 AM
sounds good except for haha a DUKE Corner. no thank you.

endorPHINS72
02-18-2007, 03:42 AM
So here goes...Im banking on that the phins don't sign Thomas from Baltimore but do sign Stallworth from Philly and Davis from Arizona...I think Davis has some potential more then people know.


1.Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame - you all know him very well.Here is why he is the 1st pick at # 9.1st of all he is going to be a great Qb and 2nd this team does not know what they are going to get from Culpepper.As a organiziation they cannot wait around to see if he is gonna return to his old ways.So in drafting Quinn you have the future.I believe that this can only benefit the team and upgrade the position.For years now this team has gone thru Qb's last and right well now with this pick we would have our franschise Qb for the next 10-15 years.When a player like this comes around only once you just can't pass on him.

2.Ryan Kalil - C - Usc - I know i bet a few of you are wondering why no Lb or tackle at this position.Well in the case of Kalil what u have is the next coming of Dwight Stephenson just reincarnated.Sorta like Marino/Stephenson now u would have Quinn/Kalil.Those two would be the future and what you get in Kalil is the anchor of the OL.He would become the leader that this OL sorely needs and hasn't had for years.He is another guy who is to just too good to pass up on.

3.Earl Everett - LB - Florida - Would be a great addition to the Lb Corps that we need.Would be a instant starter in '07.Great in coverage and is very quick which is a added plus since we got no production from this position in '07 imo.

4.Lorenzo Booker - RB - Florida ST. - Would be a upgrade as our 3rd down back.Also could do kickoffs or punt return's as well.Great pass catcher and has great speed.This is something we do need.Speed is the main quality here.When was the last time this team did a screen pass and the rb toke off 60 yards down the field.Booker could be that guy for us.

6.Chris Denman - OT - Fresno ST. - at 6'6, 305 Denman is the real deal.Never hurts to have an extra tackle and could be a great backup and maybe be a insurance case for Davis.Great at run and pass blocking.Very aggressive and never quits on any plays.

7.John Talley - CB - Duke - He is 6'0, 188 and would be a steal if he was still there in the 7th round.He finished with 18 career int's and had a career high 7 this year.Pretty physical player and not afraid to take chances every now and then.Could be used in the dime where our cb's were very weak.


Well there you go.im sure there will be many gripes but i expect it.This is my 1st proble not my last 1 but this is just a rough idea.Thank you .....

This would be a great draft for us if it actually plays out this way. Getting Quinn, Kalil and Everett with our first three picks would be a MAJOR coup. All three are good enough to see significant playing time, if not start, this year.

endorPHINS72
02-18-2007, 03:43 AM
sounds good except for haha a DUKE Corner. no thank you.


:lol:

C'mon, it's the 7th round!

CitizenSnips
02-18-2007, 03:53 AM
I'm sorry, i don't want to tear this apart like this...but i feel it needs to be said.

With the news that the Texans are going to let go of Carr possibly, theres no way in hell Quinn falls past Cleveland, Minny, and Houston. It's just not gonna happen. So we're not gonna get Quinn.

Secondly, Ryan Kalil, much like Nick Mangold last year, will sneak into the first round. He's the best center in the draft, and the center position is the 2nd most important on an offensive line.

clbrazee
02-18-2007, 03:55 AM
Where's the WR????

dolphinfan0762
02-18-2007, 07:52 AM
I'm sorry, i don't want to tear this apart like this...but i feel it needs to be said.

With the news that the Texans are going to let go of Carr possibly, theres no way in hell Quinn falls past Cleveland, Minny, and Houston. It's just not gonna happen. So we're not gonna get Quinn.

Secondly, Ryan Kalil, much like Nick Mangold last year, will sneak into the first round. He's the best center in the draft, and the center position is the 2nd most important on an offensive line.

i agree...to have a chance to draft Brady Quinn we have to trade up.

Phanatical
02-18-2007, 09:49 AM
I'm pretty much with you in terms of need, except that I don't think we need another RB as much as we need help at CB, LB and kicker. Therefore, I've got CB at #4 a LB at #6 and a Kicker at #7.

Boomer
02-18-2007, 09:49 AM
sounds good except for haha a DUKE Corner. no thank you.

John Talley's a nice player.

Phanatical
02-18-2007, 09:51 AM
I'm sorry, i don't want to tear this apart like this...but i feel it needs to be said.

With the news that the Texans are going to let go of Carr possibly, theres no way in hell Quinn falls past Cleveland, Minny, and Houston. It's just not gonna happen. So we're not gonna get Quinn.

Secondly, Ryan Kalil, much like Nick Mangold last year, will sneak into the first round. He's the best center in the draft, and the center position is the 2nd most important on an offensive line.

I agree, I don't think Quinn will be there. That's why I think the Phins should go with Brown if available. If Quinn and Brown are gone I think I would go with Kalil at #9. Yeah, that's probably a "reach" in the first round, but the guy has talent and would definitely help out our weak OL.

oldfinfan
02-18-2007, 10:38 AM
So here goes...Im banking on that the phins don't sign Thomas from Baltimore but do sign Stallworth from Philly and Davis from Arizona...I think Davis has some potential more then people know.


1.Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame - you all know him very well.Here is why he is the 1st pick at # 9.1st of all he is going to be a great Qb and 2nd this team does not know what they are going to get from Culpepper.As a organiziation they cannot wait around to see if he is gonna return to his old ways.So in drafting Quinn you have the future.I believe that this can only benefit the team and upgrade the position.For years now this team has gone thru Qb's last and right well now with this pick we would have our franschise Qb for the next 10-15 years.When a player like this comes around only once you just can't pass on him.

2.Ryan Kalil - C - Usc - I know i bet a few of you are wondering why no Lb or tackle at this position.Well in the case of Kalil what u have is the next coming of Dwight Stephenson just reincarnated.Sorta like Marino/Stephenson now u would have Quinn/Kalil.Those two would be the future and what you get in Kalil is the anchor of the OL.He would become the leader that this OL sorely needs and hasn't had for years.He is another guy who is to just too good to pass up on.

3.Earl Everett - LB - Florida - Would be a great addition to the Lb Corps that we need.Would be a instant starter in '07.Great in coverage and is very quick which is a added plus since we got no production from this position in '07 imo.

4.Lorenzo Booker - RB - Florida ST. - Would be a upgrade as our 3rd down back.Also could do kickoffs or punt return's as well.Great pass catcher and has great speed.This is something we do need.Speed is the main quality here.When was the last time this team did a screen pass and the rb toke off 60 yards down the field.Booker could be that guy for us.

6.Chris Denman - OT - Fresno ST. - at 6'6, 305 Denman is the real deal.Never hurts to have an extra tackle and could be a great backup and maybe be a insurance case for Davis.Great at run and pass blocking.Very aggressive and never quits on any plays.

7.John Talley - CB - Duke - He is 6'0, 188 and would be a steal if he was still there in the 7th round.He finished with 18 career int's and had a career high 7 this year.Pretty physical player and not afraid to take chances every now and then.Could be used in the dime where our cb's were very weak.


Well there you go.im sure there will be many gripes but i expect it.This is my 1st proble not my last 1 but this is just a rough idea.Thank you .....

Saying Kalil is the next coming of Dwight Stephenson is pretty far fetched...DS is a HOF.

I prefer to go for an OT, someone like Staley, who may slip to the 2nd rd

phinphanforever
02-18-2007, 10:54 AM
Saying Kalil is the next coming of Dwight Stephenson is pretty far fetched...DS is a HOF.

I prefer to go for an OT, someone like Staley, who may slip to the 2nd rd
Agreed on Kalil, but saying Brady Quinn is the next Tom Brady is a stretch. But be carefull. You just might get banned for suggesting so.

uga3406
02-18-2007, 11:06 AM
i want to address to points that were rasied.1st being that if we sign Stallworth there is no need for a Wr and the David Carr issue is very complicated.john Clayton a few nites ago on nfl live said it is going to take a sweet deal to get Carr.I seriously doubt a lot of teams are going to offer there 1st or 2nd rounders for him.It seems to me that they will hold on to him maybe draft a Qb like Stanton in the 3rd but that is what he said and that is where im going with this.Give the questions coming.

QrtBck13
02-18-2007, 11:22 AM
Earl Everett will not fall to the third i dont believe.......i have seen some mocks having him go 28 to New England in the first

jim1
02-18-2007, 11:50 AM
I'm sorry, i don't want to tear this apart like this...but i feel it needs to be said.

With the news that the Texans are going to let go of Carr possibly, theres no way in hell Quinn falls past Cleveland, Minny, and Houston. It's just not gonna happen. So we're not gonna get Quinn.

Secondly, Ryan Kalil, much like Nick Mangold last year, will sneak into the first round. He's the best center in the draft, and the center position is the 2nd most important on an offensive line.

Take a deep breath, bro. Houston has other needs, too. If they sign Plummer, don't be so sure of yourself. Cleveland has Frye and Derek Anderson, don't they covet Adrian Peterson? The Vikes head coach/head moron said no QB 1st round, then realized he showed his hand and retracted the comment. Uh, ok... He drafted/reached for Tavaris Jackson last year 2nd round and might stubbornly stick with him.

Kalil- darned good, but not exactly Nick Mangold, more like man silver... early second round sounds about right for him. The guy put together a nice mock, at least I think so, give him his props.

Crowder52
02-18-2007, 12:10 PM
I'm sorry, i don't want to tear this apart like this...but i feel it needs to be said.

With the news that the Texans are going to let go of Carr possibly, theres no way in hell Quinn falls past Cleveland, Minny, and Houston. It's just not gonna happen. So we're not gonna get Quinn.

Secondly, Ryan Kalil, much like Nick Mangold last year, will sneak into the first round. He's the best center in the draft, and the center position is the 2nd most important on an offensive line.

I know this argument has been beaten to death, but it is very possible for Quinn to fall to #9. It could even become probable depending on how free agency/trades play out.

Cleveland has so many needs on both sides of the ball that we can't pretend to have any idea who they will draft. Minnesota used a 2nd rounder last year on a QB, and I can't imagine using a 1st the next year on one without giving Jackson a chance.

I would imagine Houston for now is sick and tired of trying to develop their own young QB and will use a veteran as a stop-gap for a few years while they fix the rest of the team, i.e. the O-Line. (This has been how it has gone in recent history. See: Browns after Couch, Lions after Harrington. Neither used a top pick on a QB after their young, touted QBs were shown to be busts, but instead went with Garcia and Kitna, respectively).

My wildcard team is Detroit. I think they could take Quinn and shake up the whole draft (yes, I know they are "sold" on Thomas, but you never know what's real and what is a smoke screen).

Delfin 22
02-18-2007, 12:30 PM
i dont think booker will be there in the 4th

badfoot
02-18-2007, 02:25 PM
this mock is completely flawed IMHO...If BQ is as good as you think he wont be there at 9...annointing anyone as a dwight stevenson is not only a reach but an insult to DS...and we are going to get him in the second round?!...please.. wake up and smell the reality man .. we need oline help first and foremost..defensive players will be a priority with the age factor we have here now.dont be surprised to see us go with a db in the second and as crazy as it sounds WR in the first .

vmarcilfan75
02-18-2007, 03:09 PM
this mock is completely flawed IMHO...If BQ is as good as you think he wont be there at 9...annointing anyone as a dwight stevenson is not only a reach but an insult to DS...and we are going to get him in the second round?!...please.. wake up and smell the reality man .. we need oline help first and foremost..defensive players will be a priority with the age factor we have here now.dont be surprised to see us go with a db in the second and as crazy as it sounds WR in the first .

you say we need Oline help first but you think we'll draft a WR/DB in the 1st 2 rounds? :hmmm:

As far as BQ dropping didnt Leinart drop last year?? and he's Better than BQ.
So he CAN be there at 9.

Sean
02-18-2007, 03:10 PM
BQ , i like it, or Levi Brown, or if we trade up CJ

TotoreMexico
02-18-2007, 03:18 PM
this mock is completely flawed IMHO...If BQ is as good as you think he wont be there at 9...annointing anyone as a dwight stevenson is not only a reach but an insult to DS...and we are going to get him in the second round?!...please.. wake up and smell the reality man .. we need oline help first and foremost..defensive players will be a priority with the age factor we have here now.dont be surprised to see us go with a db in the second and as crazy as it sounds WR in the first .

Tom Brady sucks because he fell to the 6th round? I'm not saying Quinn is the next Brady, it's just an example

Boomer
02-18-2007, 04:38 PM
Earl Everett will not fall to the third i dont believe.......i have seen some mocks having him go 28 to New England in the first

He won't go that high. He's a late 2, early 3 guy.

uga3406
02-18-2007, 04:45 PM
Take a deep breath, bro. Houston has other needs, too. If they sign Plummer, don't be so sure of yourself. Cleveland has Frye and Derek Anderson, don't they covet Adrian Peterson? The Vikes head coach/head moron said no QB 1st round, then realized he showed his hand and retracted the comment. Uh, ok... He drafted/reached for Tavaris Jackson last year 2nd round and might stubbornly stick with him.

Kalil- darned good, but not exactly Nick Mangold, more like man silver... early second round sounds about right for him. The guy put together a nice mock, at least I think so, give him his props.


thank you for the props !

Regan21286
02-18-2007, 07:50 PM
So here goes...Im banking on that the phins don't sign Thomas from Baltimore but do sign Stallworth from Philly and Davis from Arizona...I think Davis has some potential more then people know.


1.Brady Quinn - QB - Notre Dame - you all know him very well.Here is why he is the 1st pick at # 9.1st of all he is going to be a great Qb and 2nd this team does not know what they are going to get from Culpepper.As a organiziation they cannot wait around to see if he is gonna return to his old ways.So in drafting Quinn you have the future.I believe that this can only benefit the team and upgrade the position.For years now this team has gone thru Qb's last and right well now with this pick we would have our franschise Qb for the next 10-15 years.When a player like this comes around only once you just can't pass on him.

2.Ryan Kalil - C - Usc - I know i bet a few of you are wondering why no Lb or tackle at this position.Well in the case of Kalil what u have is the next coming of Dwight Stephenson just reincarnated.Sorta like Marino/Stephenson now u would have Quinn/Kalil.Those two would be the future and what you get in Kalil is the anchor of the OL.He would become the leader that this OL sorely needs and hasn't had for years.He is another guy who is to just too good to pass up on.

3.Earl Everett - LB - Florida - Would be a great addition to the Lb Corps that we need.Would be a instant starter in '07.Great in coverage and is very quick which is a added plus since we got no production from this position in '07 imo.

4.Lorenzo Booker - RB - Florida ST. - Would be a upgrade as our 3rd down back.Also could do kickoffs or punt return's as well.Great pass catcher and has great speed.This is something we do need.Speed is the main quality here.When was the last time this team did a screen pass and the rb toke off 60 yards down the field.Booker could be that guy for us.

6.Chris Denman - OT - Fresno ST. - at 6'6, 305 Denman is the real deal.Never hurts to have an extra tackle and could be a great backup and maybe be a insurance case for Davis.Great at run and pass blocking.Very aggressive and never quits on any plays.

7.John Talley - CB - Duke - He is 6'0, 188 and would be a steal if he was still there in the 7th round.He finished with 18 career int's and had a career high 7 this year.Pretty physical player and not afraid to take chances every now and then.Could be used in the dime where our cb's were very weak.


Well there you go.im sure there will be many gripes but i expect it.This is my 1st proble not my last 1 but this is just a rough idea.Thank you .....

I like the first 3. Maybe on Booker if he can show he's a decent return man. Don't know much on Denman and I don't think we should draft a Duke player unless we turn into an NBA team. Brandon Myles could be a better pick with the 7th.

Dol_Fan_4_Ever
02-18-2007, 11:28 PM
Secondly, Ryan Kalil, much like Nick Mangold last year, will sneak into the first round. He's the best center in the draft, and the center position is the 2nd most important on an offensive line.


You are forgetting about another center would should really take a look at. Dan Moses from West Virginia. He's a beast within a beast. I would actually prefer him instead.

Tureo
02-19-2007, 12:56 AM
I'm sorry, i don't want to tear this apart like this...but i feel it needs to be said.

With the news that the Texans are going to let go of Carr possibly, theres no way in hell Quinn falls past Cleveland, Minny, and Houston. It's just not gonna happen. So we're not gonna get Quinn.

Secondly, Ryan Kalil, much like Nick Mangold last year, will sneak into the first round. He's the best center in the draft, and the center position is the 2nd most important on an offensive line.
If Houston trades a potentially good QB in Carr, why would they replace with potential in the form of a QB in the first rd. I think they look at a guy like Plummer if the deal Carr.

Tureo
02-19-2007, 12:57 AM
I know this argument has been beaten to death, but it is very possible for Quinn to fall to #9. It could even become probable depending on how free agency/trades play out.

Cleveland has so many needs on both sides of the ball that we can't pretend to have any idea who they will draft. Minnesota used a 2nd rounder last year on a QB, and I can't imagine using a 1st the next year on one without giving Jackson a chance.

I would imagine Houston for now is sick and tired of trying to develop their own young QB and will use a veteran as a stop-gap for a few years while they fix the rest of the team, i.e. the O-Line. (This has been how it has gone in recent history. See: Browns after Couch, Lions after Harrington. Neither used a top pick on a QB after their young, touted QBs were shown to be busts, but instead went with Garcia and Kitna, respectively).

My wildcard team is Detroit. I think they could take Quinn and shake up the whole draft (yes, I know they are "sold" on Thomas, but you never know what's real and what is a smoke screen).
Agreed!

DcRy82
02-19-2007, 01:15 AM
Another good example of someone dropping is Aaron Rogers who most thought would go first overall but lasted til i believe 24th when the packers finally took him... You just really never know who is going to be there. players rise and drop all the time... remember last year when Chad Jackson had that great combine people thought he would easily go top 15, yet he dropped to the second round. its really impossible to know who is going to be available so for anyone to suggest that "they wont be around" or "they will be gone by then" is just an assumption because crazy things happen on draft day.

IluvJuMiami
02-19-2007, 06:34 AM
I know this argument has been beaten to death, but it is very possible for Quinn to fall to #9. It could even become probable depending on how free agency/trades play out.

Cleveland has so many needs on both sides of the ball that we can't pretend to have any idea who they will draft. Minnesota used a 2nd rounder last year on a QB, and I can't imagine using a 1st the next year on one without giving Jackson a chance.

I would imagine Houston for now is sick and tired of trying to develop their own young QB and will use a veteran as a stop-gap for a few years while they fix the rest of the team, i.e. the O-Line. (This has been how it has gone in recent history. See: Browns after Couch, Lions after Harrington. Neither used a top pick on a QB after their young, touted QBs were shown to be busts, but instead went with Garcia and Kitna, respectively).

My wildcard team is Detroit. I think they could take Quinn and shake up the whole draft (yes, I know they are "sold" on Thomas, but you never know what's real and what is a smoke screen).

I share the same opinion.

An article came out about a week ago revealing that Millen and Martz where already at each other's throat due to the fact that Martz wants to stick with Kitna when Millen is heavily considering Brady Quinn. I wish I had a link for you guys but you'll just have to take my word for it.

I whole-heartedly believe that Quinn is already a lock at 2 to Detroit and if Russell doesn't get taken by the Raiders, he will be the QB to fall.