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Dolphins7213
02-19-2007, 08:15 PM
Since 1967 wideouts who have been drafted in the 1st round have been busts about 60% of the time.. In fact only 2 wr's in the history of the draft have been number one picks in the draft..Irving Fryer and Meshawn Johnson...They have one super bowl between them and the Bucs did not need loud mouth to win theirs...What I am trying to say is that wideouts first of all take time to develop ,not that we dont have time but more importantly they are too risky to take with a 1st round pick..If you look at last years draft there wasn't a WR taken until the steelers took Holmes and he was a ruturn specialist for them..when he played...Bottom line is we should go QB or OL ...sign a wr in Free agency maybe Stallworth but I would Look at Kevin Curtis and Shawn Mcdonald from the Rams because of the money...they both have great speed...and were in the shadows of bruce and holt..we have several young guys on the Defensive line so we could use a Linebacker and a CB or safety...I would love for us to Find a QB but if we cant get the top two ,go for a Left Tackle or Center...And I wouldn't want Deilman or the Bengal tackle if they are too much money...Besides Deilman is a one year wonder.not saying he wont be good or great but he hasnt done it for a long time to warrant big money!:dolphins:

Stitches
02-19-2007, 08:29 PM
What qualifies as a bust to you?

CitizenSnips
02-19-2007, 08:32 PM
I agree that the dolphins shouldn't look to spend their first pick on a receiver. However, i don't believe that they were actually going to draft a receiver. A lot of guys have to be off the board for a WR to be the BPA. I'd say we're praying for Quinn to fall to #9, if not, we're taking Levi Brown.

Now i'll openly admit, i'd much rather take Laron Landry, (because IMO i think he will be the BPA at our pick) and just play it from there. However, I do believe that we;re going to ultimately draft out of need rather then BPA, which will bug me. But i dont see us taking a WR in the first at all. Maybe int he 2nd however.

VT Dolphan
02-19-2007, 08:39 PM
No offense or anything...but the fact that wide receivers taken in the first round are often busts isn't exactly new, unknown information.

Dolphins7213
02-19-2007, 08:44 PM
No offense or anything...but the fact that wide receivers taken in the first round are often busts isn't exactly new, unknown information.


I know genius just putting it out there for all who want us to draft Ginn or Jarrett:shakeno:

tylerdolphin
02-19-2007, 08:46 PM
I like Dwayne Jarret as long as Quinn isn't on the board.

VT Dolphan
02-19-2007, 08:46 PM
I know genius just putting it out there for all who want us to draft Ginn or Jarrett:shakeno:

Thank you for enlightening us all then with your wisdom.

TotoreMexico
02-19-2007, 08:52 PM
I remember last year, all were aboard the Chad Jackson bandwagon:lol:

Dolphins7213
02-19-2007, 08:56 PM
Dispute the post, and don't make it personal!



Thank you for enlightening us all then with your wisdom.

PAFINFAN090
02-19-2007, 08:57 PM
Since 1967 wideouts who have been drafted in the 1st round have been busts about 60% of the time.. In fact only 2 wr's in the history of the draft have been number one picks in the draft..Irving Fryer and Meshawn Johnson...They have one super bowl between them and the Bucs did not need loud mouth to win theirs...What I am trying to say is that wideouts first of all take time to develop ,not that we dont have time but more importantly they are too risky to take with a 1st round pick..If you look at last years draft there wasn't a WR taken until the steelers took Holmes and he was a ruturn specialist for them..when he played...Bottom line is we should go QB or OL ...sign a wr in Free agency maybe Stallworth but I would Look at Kevin Curtis and Shawn Mcdonald from the Rams because of the money...they both have great speed...and were in the shadows of bruce and holt..we have several young guys on the Defensive line so we could use a Linebacker and a CB or safety...I would love for us to Find a QB but if we cant get the top two ,go for a Left Tackle or Center...And I wouldn't want Deilman or the Bengal tackle if they are too much money...Besides Deilman is a one year wonder.not saying he wont be good or great but he hasnt done it for a long time to warrant big money!

good opinion, almost word for word what was said on nfl redzone this afternoon on sirius radio. at least give a reference, don't pawn it off as your own.

Dolphins7213
02-19-2007, 09:01 PM
good opinion, almost word for word what was said on nfl redzone this afternoon on sirius radio. at least give a reference, don't pawn it off as your own.

My god what the hell are you talking about Nfl Redzone? I unlike you would never pay for radio...

Caldolfan
02-19-2007, 09:01 PM
Anybody but Quinn.

cullenbigcstill
02-19-2007, 09:19 PM
My god what the hell are you talking about Nfl Redzone? I unlike you would never pay for radio...


would you never pay for TV as well....very ignorant statement. have you ever tried satellite radio? you may pay for it then...plus 12 bucks a month for hundreds of different station is a hell of a deal and little to no commercials!

PAFINFAN090
02-19-2007, 09:39 PM
Originally Posted by Dolphins7213
My god what the hell are you talking about Nfl Redzone? I unlike you would never pay for radio...

i don't care what you say about sirius radio, chief. you took that entire post from what they said this afternoon about drafting wide receivers and offensive linemen.

Frayser
02-19-2007, 09:51 PM
I agree that the dolphins shouldn't look to spend their first pick on a receiver. However, i don't believe that they were actually going to draft a receiver. A lot of guys have to be off the board for a WR to be the BPA. I'd say we're praying for Quinn to fall to #9, if not, we're taking Levi Brown.

Now i'll openly admit, i'd much rather take Laron Landry, (because IMO i think he will be the BPA at our pick) and just play it from there. However, I do believe that we;re going to ultimately draft out of need rather then BPA, which will bug me. But i dont see us taking a WR in the first at all. Maybe int he 2nd however.

I think you are right. Calvin Johnson is the only non-potential bust at WR in this draft. If we stay at #9, we'll take Quinn if he is there. If not, I'm exactly with you in that I think it's a toss up between Levi Brown and Laron Landry. While I like Brown, the jury is still out on whether he is even close to being worth of a Top 10 pick. Landry, on the other hand, should be right in that range.

phins3454
02-19-2007, 09:52 PM
Since 1967 wideouts who have been drafted in the 1st round have been busts about 60% of the time.. In fact only 2 wr's in the history of the draft have been number one picks in the draft..Irving Fryer and Meshawn Johnson...They have one super bowl between them and the Bucs did not need loud mouth to win theirs...What I am trying to say is that wideouts first of all take time to develop ,not that we dont have time but more importantly they are too risky to take with a 1st round pick..If you look at last years draft there wasn't a WR taken until the steelers took Holmes and he was a ruturn specialist for them..when he played...Bottom line is we should go QB or OL ...sign a wr in Free agency maybe Stallworth but I would Look at Kevin Curtis and Shawn Mcdonald from the Rams because of the money...they both have great speed...and were in the shadows of bruce and holt..we have several young guys on the Defensive line so we could use a Linebacker and a CB or safety...I would love for us to Find a QB but if we cant get the top two ,go for a Left Tackle or Center...And I wouldn't want Deilman or the Bengal tackle if they are too much money...Besides Deilman is a one year wonder.not saying he wont be good or great but he hasnt done it for a long time to warrant big money!:dolphins:

I agree with you man a 100%

draft Brady Quinn!

TotoreMexico
02-19-2007, 09:54 PM
Anybody but Quinn.

You're in love with Quinn...

fish fan 4 life
02-19-2007, 10:01 PM
I dont see us takeing a wr

banzaitrey
02-19-2007, 10:03 PM
Listen guys...Everyone has a potential to be a bust...When Robert Gallery was coming out...Everyone just *knew* that he would come in and be an all pro for 10-12 years but look at him now...So lets just see what happens after combine and the pro-days...

retarmyfinfan
02-19-2007, 10:14 PM
I agree that the dolphins shouldn't look to spend their first pick on a receiver. However, i don't believe that they were actually going to draft a receiver. A lot of guys have to be off the board for a WR to be the BPA. I'd say we're praying for Quinn to fall to #9, if not, we're taking Levi Brown.

Now i'll openly admit, i'd much rather take Laron Landry, (because IMO i think he will be the BPA at our pick) and just play it from there. However, I do believe that we;re going to ultimately draft out of need rather then BPA, which will bug me. But i dont see us taking a WR in the first at all. Maybe int he 2nd however.

I hear you, I am tired of drafting for need and getting low value in return. BPA is the way to go, whatever the position, because more then likely, 2 years down the road that position will be a need anyways.

Geforce
02-19-2007, 10:19 PM
...and all this time I was hoping for a miracle and acquiring Calvin Johnson in this year's draft.

FireInTheNole
02-20-2007, 02:00 PM
Levi Brown in the first round and we could take Greg Olsen in the second if he is still there. This guy could cause some huge match-up problems, plus he is a down field threat.

Geforce
02-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Levi Brown in the first round and we could take Greg Olsen in the second if he is still there. This guy could cause some huge match-up problems, plus he is a down field threat.

Match up problems for defenses as a receiver and a match up problems for us as a blocker.

ckparrothead
02-20-2007, 02:36 PM
Well the first post in this thread represents the entire reason some coaches and GMs avoid the position altogether in the first stanza.

That said, Calvin Johnson is the #1 player in this draft and the best receiver prospect to come out in an entire generation. And no, I do not say that every year. In fact, I've never said it before.

So I would probably never really adhere to any philosophies that completely strike out a position in any given round. I find such risk control measures unnecessary, so long as you keep the tendencies in mind. There have been a lot of first round WRs to help a lot of teams.

Stitches
02-20-2007, 03:18 PM
Well the first post in this thread represents the entire reason some coaches and GMs avoid the position altogether in the first stanza.

That said, Calvin Johnson is the #1 player in this draft and the best receiver prospect to come out in an entire generation. And no, I do not say that every year. In fact, I've never said it before.

So I would probably never really adhere to any philosophies that completely strike out a position in any given round. I find such risk control measures unnecessary, so long as you keep the tendencies in mind. There have been a lot of first round WRs to help a lot of teams.


That's why I wondered what qualified as a bust to him. But the thread starter never answered.

CK, didn't you point out once that even though Keyshawn doesn't have Jerry Rice numbers, he has been really good and a good investment, in that he has been turned into a 1st round pick on two occassions through trades?

ckparrothead
02-20-2007, 04:02 PM
That's why I wondered what qualified as a bust to him. But the thread starter never answered.

CK, didn't you point out once that even though Keyshawn doesn't have Jerry Rice numbers, he has been really good and a good investment, in that he has been turned into a 1st round pick on two occassions through trades?

It's possible, I do have about 27,000 posts under my belt. Even if it wasn't me, it's a good point. He was traded to Tampa for 2 first round picks...and from Tampa to Dallas for Joey Galloway. Galloway was once traded to Dallas for 2 first round picks too, btw. Teams have certainly gotten good value for Keyshawn in re-trade.

Stitches
02-20-2007, 06:27 PM
It's possible, I do have about 27,000 posts under my belt. Even if it wasn't me, it's a good point. He was traded to Tampa for 2 first round picks...and from Tampa to Dallas for Joey Galloway. Galloway was once traded to Dallas for 2 first round picks too, btw. Teams have certainly gotten good value for Keyshawn in re-trade.

If you didn't write it, I will take credit for it. :wink: