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umpalu
02-21-2007, 05:27 AM
seriously, list all the positions of need at this point on OUR team and give the top 3 based on their relevance to the topic. PEP can return to form (yes a ? lots to prove, but set with CPEP and lemon and maybe stanton in the third) our WRs have mad skills as proven in the past (chambers as slot, booker as deep threat? hagan as 3rd down?) not the best but it is there and there can be hope behind it, yes? . TE randy will be sick with strengh and conditioning based off him being a catch first TE which is what he is vs what they have been using him for. Ricky and Brown, ricky cheap and talented and brown is talented, best RB dueo in the league. On d, need a nose guard for the future, a 3-4 OLB and a corner that can be lights out. Wait is that 3 defensive positions labeled as needs vs 1 on the offensive side? If you go based on need alone QB is not nearly a priority until next year IF Cpep fails. I believe honestly that he prob will, but he does deserve a real chance if healthy. Deilman in FA with Brown in the first and Kalil in the second gives us room to cut james, not resign that macitosh (spelling on purpose) ipod chargers experiment fellow ( ;) ) and let sheldon go. this gives us crazy cap room and most likely solidifies our o line for 10 years. I dont think c pep is the answer but we need a line that can block for a rookie and with these moves whenever we get the qb of the f\\uture he will have a sick line to block for him and not make him lose his confidence while being sacked by the screen door that will block for him.

3Ply Stagliano
02-21-2007, 07:23 AM
I don't think Marty Booker is much of a deep threat. Is he not more of a possession type who can sometimes pick up a few yards after the catch? Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

phishinphin
02-21-2007, 07:25 AM
So what do you expect if Cpep is not ready? Another 6-10 year? Maybe 8-8? Then we still have no better shot at a franchise QB than we have this year. So why no go for it now?

MustangFinFan
02-21-2007, 07:42 AM
give Cpep, Harrington, Lemon another year...if no, then draft Brian Brohm...whatever it takes!

Alex44
02-21-2007, 07:54 AM
I hate how people say if Quinn is there you have to take him. You don't take a guy just because he is there, that is a trap waiting to spring on you. You study the guy, and if you don't like him you trade down or simply pass on him. It wouldnt be a popular decision but I hope we dont just say 'Damn we need a Franchise QB we better take Quinn he is the best shot.'

bakedmatt
02-21-2007, 08:00 AM
I think you underestimate the importance of the QB position and what it could mean to have, who a lot of people think, a franchise player there. If you want to be a great team that contends for several years in a row, the QB position must be fulfilled.

bakedmatt
02-21-2007, 08:02 AM
I hate how people say if Quinn is there you have to take him. You don't take a guy just because he is there, that is a trap waiting to spring on you. You study the guy, and if you don't like him you trade down or simply pass on him. It wouldnt be a popular decision but I hope we dont just say 'Damn we need a Franchise QB we better take Quinn he is the best shot.'

Of course. Fans that say that, however, have already done that evaluation in their own mind. It can change...

bakedmatt
02-21-2007, 08:04 AM
give Cpep, Harrington, Lemon another year...if no, then draft Brian Brohm...whatever it takes!

That could be impossible. And maybe at that point, he's been injured or something.

PhinfanUK
02-21-2007, 08:25 AM
I don't think Marty Booker is much of a deep threat. Is he not more of a possession type who can sometimes pick up a few yards after the catch? Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

He's not got great straight line speed and is far from being a burner but he plays the game extremely fast and has ended with great a YPC average the past two seasons now. I wouldn't class him as a deep threat though, that's still Chambers job.

Sign Stallworth to be our deep threat!!

PublixSubsRule
02-21-2007, 08:44 AM
I hate how people say if Quinn is there you have to take him. You don't take a guy just because he is there, that is a trap waiting to spring on you. You study the guy, and if you don't like him you trade down or simply pass on him. It wouldnt be a popular decision but I hope we dont just say 'Damn we need a Franchise QB we better take Quinn he is the best shot.'


LOL DO YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS BEFORE YOU STATE THEM?

Of COURSE we will study the guy (recent hiring of his former trainer Shea), and I think we do like him which is why you keep hearing his name mentioned in these forums.

Alex44
02-21-2007, 08:48 AM
LOL DO YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS BEFORE YOU STATE THEM?

Of COURSE we will study the guy (recent hiring of his former trainer Shea), and I think we do like him which is why you keep hearing his name mentioned in these forums.

Do you read things before you state a reply?

Where did I say a team doesn't study a player? I was talking about fans who say if a guy is there we have to take him, when NFL teams dont think like that and those fans have never scouted him at all like an NFL team does.

jlfin
02-21-2007, 08:51 AM
I think you underestimate the importance of the QB position and what it could mean to have, who a lot of people think, a franchise player there. If you want to be a great team that contends for several years in a row, the QB position must be fulfilled.

Finally, someone who understands the fundamental aspects of the game.

PhinfanUK
02-21-2007, 09:07 AM
Finally, someone who understands the fundamental aspects of the game.

I'm just not sure about Quinn. I like what I've seen of the guy and I like the way many scouts predict he could come in an start right away. He also seems to be a perfect fit for Cam's offense.

With an ageing team (defense) however we should be aiming to win now and I think Levi Brown or Reggie Nelson give us the best chance to do that. I hope we take Quinn and he turns out to be a hall of fame quarterback but I'm also remembering Patrick Ramsey, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Joey Harrington to name just a few.

Phantom
02-21-2007, 09:32 AM
There have been busts at every position in the nfl in the first round.........

aerokev
02-21-2007, 10:54 AM
give Cpep, Harrington, Lemon another year...if no, then draft Brian Brohm...whatever it takes!

if you have a chance to draft your QB of the future which quinn will be wherever he goes you do it. miami apparently will have to have to move up a lot to get him if he falls past detroit and cleveland. next year brian brohm will probably be the number 1 overall pick, how much would it take to move up then to get him?

phishinphin
02-21-2007, 02:29 PM
if you have a chance to draft your QB of the future which quinn will be wherever he goes you do it. miami apparently will have to have to move up a lot to get him if he falls past detroit and cleveland. next year brian brohm will probably be the number 1 overall pick, how much would it take to move up then to get him?

EXACTLY!!!!

jdang307
02-21-2007, 02:34 PM
give Cpep, Harrington, Lemon another year...if no, then draft Brian Brohm...whatever it takes!
I see no reason to give Harrington any more chances, period. Cpep, Lemon and a rookie QB is what I want to see.

PerfectFinz72
02-21-2007, 02:59 PM
seriously, list all the positions of need at this point on OUR team and give the top 3 based on their relevance to the topic. PEP can return to form (yes a ? lots to prove, but set with CPEP and lemon and maybe stanton in the third) our WRs have mad skills as proven in the past (chambers as slot, booker as deep threat? hagan as 3rd down?) not the best but it is there and there can be hope behind it, yes? . TE randy will be sick with strengh and conditioning based off him being a catch first TE which is what he is vs what they have been using him for.

If you go based on need alone QB is not nearly a priority until next year IF Cpep fails. I believe honestly that he prob will, but he does deserve a real chance if healthy.

I disagree with the assessment of the QB and WR positions. I would love nothing more than to see culpepper healthy and playing well....but to say that we're "set" with cpep and lemon is a reach. No one knows if culpepper will ever return to his form from a few years ago.

Also, mad skills for the receivers (and I'll bunch Mcmike into this as well)?? If anything, our receiving core has underachieved for the majority of their careers. CC has had one solid season, the others we spent wondering when he will bust out and consistently display the skills we all know he has. Booker is a nice player, but not nearly as good as you'd like a number 2 receiver to be. Mcmike is really overrated and I doubt will ever be the superstar alot of us thought he would be when he first started. The jury is still out on Hagan, but he seemed to drop some passes that were relatively easy catches at times last year...which concerns me a little already.

This is why I would have no problem taking a QB or WR at #9. Especially if one of Quinn, Jarrett, Calvin Johnson, Russel or Ginn Jr are available (though I have a feeling most, if not all, of them will be gone by the 9th pick).

DonShula84
02-21-2007, 08:22 PM
I hate how people say if Quinn is there you have to take him. You don't take a guy just because he is there, that is a trap waiting to spring on you. You study the guy, and if you don't like him you trade down or simply pass on him. It wouldnt be a popular decision but I hope we dont just say 'Damn we need a Franchise QB we better take Quinn he is the best shot.'

Fans assume that Quinn is high on any teams draft board. When you go to draft a guy off your board, and a guy who you probably expected to be gone when you pick is available of course you take him. You rated him high, he fell to you, you take him. Obviously if the team doesnt like him they wouldnt say we dont like this guy but we need a QB screw it lets gamble.

DonShula84
02-21-2007, 08:23 PM
give Cpep, Harrington, Lemon another year...if no, then draft Brian Brohm...whatever it takes!


Why should we assume that Brohm will be available when we pick next year?

Stitches
02-21-2007, 08:25 PM
Why should we assume that Brohm will be available when we pick next year?

Because that solves all our draft problems apparently. :rolleyes2

FINSFAN2781
02-21-2007, 08:30 PM
Because that solves all our draft problems apparently. :rolleyes2

Exactly, i was just going to say that. Brohm will be one of the top QBs in next years draft. Miami will have a good year in 2007 and wont have a top 10 pick next year. We would have no shot at Brohm. Lets get Quinn this year and be done with it.