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FinAtic8480
02-21-2007, 09:34 PM
I knew this was gonna happen would love to see this guy starting for the Vikings, Browns, or maybe even the Raiders...... This would have a huge affect on the Draft. The possibality of Garcia, Huard, Plummer and Carr all being out there, things could get real interesting.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/news/2007/02/falcons-to-shop-schaub.html

TheJetsBlow
02-21-2007, 10:09 PM
Anything that drops Quinn into our laps, I'm all for.

VT Dolphan
02-21-2007, 10:11 PM
I would be surprised to see Schaub get traded so long as the Falcons want a first and a third rounder for him. That just seems like an insane investment on a guy who has only played a handful of games. From what I have heard, it sounds like the Falcons are going to give Vick more control of the offense this year, but Petrino has no ties to him, so if Vick struggles I'm sure he won't hesitate to play Schaub.

SR 7
02-21-2007, 10:46 PM
Anything that drops Quinn into our laps, I'm all for.

me 2.

dolfan2909
02-21-2007, 10:50 PM
I would be surprised to see Schaub get traded so long as the Falcons want a first and a third rounder for him. That just seems like an insane investment on a guy who has only played a handful of games. From what I have heard, it sounds like the Falcons are going to give Vick more control of the offense this year, but Petrino has no ties to him, so if Vick struggles I'm sure he won't hesitate to play Schaub.

no they only want a 2nd or 3rd rounder that says...a 1st and 3rd if another team signs him which wont happen...this could be a steal for some team if i was detroit i'd jump on it

MustangFinFan
02-21-2007, 10:54 PM
i heard that matt schaub is only good with west coast offense...(even tho he plays on an east coast team:lol:). so therefore i dont see him doing so well in Miami. really i think u gotta give Culpeper/Joey/Lemon and the boys another year to work it out. this year we should focus on our O-line and secondary...we have receivers who CAN catch, they just need to actually do it and stop being lazy

downfield
02-21-2007, 10:55 PM
No way Shaub goes for only a 2nd or 3rd round pick. They are off their rockers in that sense. He will go for a 1rst round pick if he is traded. Frankly, I would rather have Shaub than Quinn. Shaub has demonstrated NFL ability, Quinn has not.

FinAtic8480
02-21-2007, 10:58 PM
No way Shaub goes for only a 2nd or 3rd round pick. They are off their rockers in that sense. He will go for a 1rst round pick if he is traded. Frankly, I would rather have Shaub than Quinn. Shaub has demonstrated NFL ability, Quinn has not.
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Crunkcore
02-21-2007, 11:20 PM
Anything that drops Quinn into our laps, I'm all for.

:yeahthat:

VT Dolphan
02-21-2007, 11:21 PM
no they only want a 2nd or 3rd rounder that says...a 1st and 3rd if another team signs him which wont happen...this could be a steal for some team if i was detroit i'd jump on it

Sorry, I misread that. If all it would take would be a 2nd or 3rd rounder then I think that would be a bargain for whoever could get him. I still don't want him in Miami considering how well A.J. Feeley turned out.

etsudolfan
02-21-2007, 11:21 PM
Trading for Schaub would be tempting, however I think some other team will jump all over that...probably one of the teams ahead of us. If that happens, then that definitely increases our chances of landing Quinn

FinAtic8480
02-21-2007, 11:31 PM
Seriously havent we learned about what happens when you trade for Backups. You get exactly that a Backup.....

etsudolfan
02-21-2007, 11:42 PM
Seriously havent we learned about what happens when you trade for Backups. You get exactly that a Backup.....

very true...and I totally agree. I'm for anything that helps Quinn slide to us

Lisle Phin Fan
02-21-2007, 11:46 PM
Schaub is the perfect QB for Childress, I would be suprised if they chose Quinn over him

Dolphin39
02-22-2007, 12:18 AM
I don't see Atlanta being successful with Vick either. His flashes of success come from his scrambling and running abilities-not his throwing. Until he learns to be a quarterback instead of a running back the Falcons will forever be a see-saw team that under achieves year after year.

Atlanta would be smart to hang onto Schaub. Also, if their running game, which isn't what it used to be, takes a nose dive they will really fall apart.

Lisle Phin Fan
02-22-2007, 12:23 AM
I don't see Atlanta being successful with Vick either. His flashes of success come from his scrambling and running abilities-not his throwing. Until he learns to be a quarterback instead of a running back the Falcons will forever be a see-saw team that under achieves year after year.

Atlanta would be smart to hang onto Schaub. Also, if their running game, which isn't what it used to be, takes a nose dive they will really fall apart.

yeah, they should hold out for a low first or a high second

I think Vick can do alot better with Petrino. a defensive HC, average WCO OC and crappy WR's did little to help him

Lisle Phin Fan
02-22-2007, 12:27 AM
not be ruled out. As much as the club wants to keep Schaub, it doesn't want to lose him for nothing after the 2007 season when he becomes an unrestricted free agent.

that explains it, in a year they will get nothing for him

I think the Vikings 2nd rounder for Schaub would be a great trade for both teams

Regan21286
02-22-2007, 12:42 AM
I knew this was gonna happen would love to see this guy starting for the Vikings, Browns, or maybe even the Raiders...... This would have a huge affect on the Draft. The possibality of Garcia, Huard, Plummer and Carr all being out there, things could get real interesting.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/news/2007/02/falcons-to-shop-schaub.html

It certainly is some interesting news. Right now, there's a much bigger market for veteran QB's than there are for rookie ones. But if those guys in front of us sign some vet QB's to take over, we could be in good shape to nab Quinn at #9.

Caldolfan
02-22-2007, 01:14 AM
Say no to Quinn.

TexanPhinatic
02-22-2007, 02:32 AM
Schaub is just a glorified AJ Feeley, a classic west coast QB who has looked good in limited time in relief of injured starters. I wouldnt waste a 5th on him and really hope some team in front of us trades for him and drops out of Quinn talks, im so pumped up to get that guy, just gives me flashes of the success Manning is having.

Big market for second rate vet QBs, hope some teams go for them.

WelcomeBack
02-22-2007, 02:46 AM
Say no to Quinn.

Any specific reasoning?

We've had many people post the same thing, but that's ALL they post. Most don't give a reasoning.

I wouldn't mind Quinn (although I want Adams), but I sure would like to hear a lot of the reasons people say no to Quinn. Rather than just seeing posts like this.

CCMiamiDolphins
02-22-2007, 03:01 AM
Send him to the Texans.

BlueFin
02-22-2007, 09:02 AM
No way Shaub goes for only a 2nd or 3rd round pick. They are off their rockers in that sense. He will go for a 1rst round pick if he is traded. Frankly, I would rather have Shaub than Quinn. Shaub has demonstrated NFL ability, Quinn has not.

Oh yeah, he's been real impressive in the NFL with his eye popping 52.2% completion percentage, his whopping 1033 yards of production, his 6 touch downs AND 6 Interceptions, and his off the charts 69.2 quarterback rating...........yeah your right, he has mad skills:lol:

JFoxx
02-22-2007, 11:08 AM
Take all this with a grain of salt. This could be Atlanta just sending a flyer (like they've done in the past with him) as to what teams are willing to give, just to see how bad teams want him. They obviously know nobody will make an offer on his RFA status and have to give a 1st and 3rd. BUT there may be some teams willing to give up a 2nd and something else to get him. I don't think Atlanta trades him for anything less than multiple picks (2nd & 5th) or (3rd and 4th), unless someone offers a 1st (which I doubt). What I could see happen is a multi-pick offer over 2 years (this year's 2nd and next year's 4th or something like that). Just depends on how bad a team wants someone to come right in an take charge of the team. Teams that can't wait for a rookie to take the year or two to develop, will be the most likely candidates. I could see Carolina, Houston, maybe Minnesota & Cleveland. Obviously, most of these would be helpful to us, if we are looking QB in the draft, but at this point, I wouldn't get my hopes up. I think the Denver/Houston trade is more likely than this one.

Crowder52
02-22-2007, 11:43 AM
Oh yeah, he's been real impressive in the NFL with his eye popping 52.2% completion percentage, his whopping 1033 yards of production, his 6 touch downs AND 6 Interceptions, and his off the charts 69.2 quarterback rating...........yeah your right, he has mad skills:lol:

Looking at his career stats, you're right that they aren't that impressive. But he came off the bench for nearly all of those games. He has 2 starts, one was during his rookie season and the other was in 2005. The 2005 game was against one of the better defenses in the league, the Patriots, and Schaub went 18-34 for 298 yds 3 TD 0 INT. That was the game that people fell in love with, I think.

Not saying they are right or wrong, beacause I haven't seen enough of him myself to know, but I think that's the game that really put him on people's radar. Also, his physical stature (6'5, 235) is ideal.

WelcomeBack
02-22-2007, 12:10 PM
Looking at his career stats, you're right that they aren't that impressive. But he came off the bench for nearly all of those games. He has 2 starts, one was during his rookie season and the other was in 2005. The 2005 game was against one of the better defenses in the league, the Patriots, and Schaub went 18-34 for 298 yds 3 TD 0 INT. That was the game that people fell in love with, I think.

Not saying they are right or wrong, beacause I haven't seen enough of him myself to know, but I think that's the game that really put him on people's radar. Also, his physical stature (6'5, 235) is ideal.

Exactly.

It's hard to determine players based on a few games. Some times they get it right, some times they get it wrong (as we did with Feeley). When players show flashes, though, you have to wonder about them.

Finsfan1984
02-22-2007, 12:31 PM
me 2.

ditto

FINdestructible
02-22-2007, 12:39 PM
me 2.

Ha ha, me three. :D

PHINANALYST
02-22-2007, 01:27 PM
Out of those choices ... the only 1 I would want is Schaub ...

I would 'consider' Huard, with an incentive laden contract ... I look at him as an improved version of Joey ...

Last year, I was pretty high on either Cutler or Carr ... I have soured a bit on Carr .... if for no other reason than -- Plummer

What I mean is, Plummer showed glimpses while with the Cards .... so you would think - that surrounded by talent, he would reach that next level -- well he didn't with DEN .... which brings me back to Carr --- he hasn't shown many glimpses, and hasn't carried HOU at all ... regadless of whether or not he had an awful OL .... thus Carr is now off my list of potential long term starters ....

BlueFin
02-22-2007, 02:11 PM
Looking at his career stats, you're right that they aren't that impressive. But he came off the bench for nearly all of those games. He has 2 starts, one was during his rookie season and the other was in 2005. The 2005 game was against one of the better defenses in the league, the Patriots, and Schaub went 18-34 for 298 yds 3 TD 0 INT. That was the game that people fell in love with, I think.

Not saying they are right or wrong, beacause I haven't seen enough of him myself to know, but I think that's the game that really put him on people's radar. Also, his physical stature (6'5, 235) is ideal.

Even Jay Fiedler had a game or two where he looked like an all-pro.

Schaub has limited mobility and does not have an Elway arm, he's a decent prospect but to suggest that he's proven something in the NFL is a joke, he certainly is not worth a 1st rounder in my opinion, and I have yet to see anybody step up and offer Atlanta that sort of thing.

Crowder52
02-22-2007, 02:42 PM
Even Jay Fiedler had a game or two where he looked like an all-pro.

Schaub has limited mobility and does not have an Elway arm, he's a decent prospect but to suggest that he's proven something in the NFL is a joke, he certainly is not worth a 1st rounder in my opinion, and I have yet to see anybody step up and offer Atlanta that sort of thing.

I completely understand that, and that's why I never suggested he has proven anything in the NFL. In fact, I admitted I had no idea whether those who think he has talent are right or wrong, because I have personally never watched him since college.

Yes, Jay Fiedler had a game or two but those were out of many games. The thing that makes this guy an enigma is that he has only started one game since his rookie year, and he lit up a great defense. That makes him one for one. Again, I am only trying to explain the infatuation with him, I'm not endorsing it.