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SR 7
02-24-2007, 06:23 AM
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109485


a few articles in here adn a good thread regarding pacman jones. I konw hes a trouble maker but if they would take a 4th round pick, would you do it? i say this b/c he is young, FAST, punt return specialist (3 td's) and extremely talented along with being only in the league for 2 years. i dono is a 4th a risk for his actions?

defensivefan
02-24-2007, 06:42 AM
No, never, not even for nothing

coalesce
02-24-2007, 06:56 AM
If we had a defensive scheme that called for the opposing team's wide receiver to have their ankle bit and a woman punched, then yes, sign Pacman. Barring that, no.

Michael

Kadiddlehopper
02-24-2007, 07:10 AM
NO! He'll be lucky to stay out of jail over the shooting incident.

Canadianfishfan
02-24-2007, 07:18 AM
Yikes... NO!

dolfan4eva
02-24-2007, 07:56 AM
I'm not sure why this is being discussed.

Dolphin39
02-24-2007, 08:00 AM
No, never, not even for nothing

I agree! No way, not even for nothing. :mad:

JJW1339
02-24-2007, 08:39 AM
That guy is a thug on and off the field. He should be playing for some prison football team.

FinsAreLife
02-24-2007, 09:13 AM
He plays good but i have heard nothing good about his attitude. My cousin who lives in Nashville says he is a jerk to his team and to the media. He said that he is just an accident waiting to happen.

Aqua4Ever04
02-24-2007, 09:15 AM
I knew I would come in here and see all the responses that I'm seeing, and I will likely get flammed for what I'm about to say, but hear me out.

I would really like to have Jones on the Dolphins. Can you guys imagine what he would do for our secondary and return game. PacMan can change a game on defense and special teams and is that big play guy the Dolphins have been missing for oh-so long. Sure he is a thug, a bum and a terrible person, but he can do some nifty work with the football.

He won't be here, but he would be a nice addition to the team.

ATLFINFAN
02-24-2007, 09:16 AM
I perfer to have players on this team I can support and be proud that they wear Dolphins uniforms. Pacman is a thug. It doesnt fit. JUST SAY NO

RevRick
02-24-2007, 09:25 AM
I knew I would come in here and see all the responses that I'm seeing, and I will likely get flammed for what I'm about to say, but hear me out.

I would really like to have Jones on the Dolphins. Can you guys imagine what he would do for our secondary and return game. PacMan can change a game on defense and special teams and is that big play guy the Dolphins have been missing for oh-so long. Sure he is a thug, a bum and a terrible person, but he can do some nifty work with the football.

He won't be here, but he would be a nice addition to the team.

Aside from the occasional shooting, woman punching, and general thuggery, and the idea that he'd bring absolutely nothing of value than skills which can be found elsewhere in someone who does not have a posse which has the manners of a group of mongol invaders, I'd agree with that assessment. So, I'd think...ah...NO!

Aqua4Ever04
02-24-2007, 09:27 AM
Aside from the occasional shooting, woman punching, and general thuggery, and the idea that he'd bring absolutely nothing of value than skills which can be found elsewhere in someone who does not have a posse which has the manners of a group of mongol invaders, I'd agree with that assessment. So, I'd think...ah...NO!

Point exactly, he would make this team far better on the football field. At this point, that's all I care about.

Alex44
02-24-2007, 09:35 AM
Aside from the occasional shooting, woman punching, and general thuggery, and the idea that he'd bring absolutely nothing of value than skills which can be found elsewhere in someone who does not have a posse which has the manners of a group of mongol invaders, I'd agree with that assessment. So, I'd think...ah...NO!

He didn't shoot anybody. Did he see who did? Maybe, but he didnt pull the trigger and he isn't guilty.

Explain?

He is a great young corner, if someone said give me a 4th rounder for Jones I would pull the trigger (no pun intended) and never look back. Thats a very low risk for someone who could be a star in the league.

EDIT: And I refuse to call him Pacman....his name is Adam.

junkyardkid
02-24-2007, 09:40 AM
Make sure the insurance policy will cover the total loss, Pac-Man on South Beach? 10 minutes, Tops!

Irish Phin Fan
02-24-2007, 09:46 AM
He didn't shoot anybody. Did he see who did? Maybe, but he didnt pull the trigger and he isn't guilty.

Explain?

He is a great young corner, if someone said give me a 4th rounder for Jones I would pull the trigger (no pun intended) and never look back. Thats a very low risk for someone who could be a star in the league.

And you know this how? This guy is is a waste of a human being. Everywhere he goes trouble is sure to follow. Why would you want him on this team. This is what happens when you take a dumb thug off the streets and give him millions of dollars with noone to help him manage his life. And it's a shame because noone says he isn't talented on the field he just is not talented off it.

gator_sensation
02-24-2007, 09:49 AM
Pacman is going to waste his talent and above all his life. He can not escape his thug lifestyle. Thats the said part. He has become successful and making millions, yet he can not leave that lifestyle. He needs to add a new chapter in his life before it becomes too late. He is in his early 20's and is already living the life of a career criminal. I think that if he was not in the NFL he would have already been in prison because instead of having a million dollar attorney he would of had a state defender and we know how that turn out. lol.

Alex44
02-24-2007, 09:50 AM
And you know this how? This guy is is a waste of a human being. Everywhere he goes trouble is sure to follow. Why would you want him on this team. This is what happens when you take a dumb thug off the streets and give him millions of dollars with noone to help him manage his life. And it's a shame because noone says he isn't talented on the field he just is not talented off it.

If your saying how do I know he didnt shoot anybody thats simple because no cop or anyone for that matter has accused him of shooting anyone.

Your talking about getting a top ten talent (in terms of draft status) with a 4th rounder. Even if it doesnt work out it's not like we would have broke the bank for him. There are many thugs in the league....Ray Lewis killed someone, Mcmichael beat his wife (multiple times) the entire Bengals roster minus Carson is at risk to be thrown in jail at any time.

At best you get a corner who has the potential to be one of the best in the league, at worst you lose a 4th rounder....not that much risk IMO.

The Confessor
02-24-2007, 09:59 AM
He didn't shoot anybody. Did he see who did? Maybe, but he didnt pull the trigger and he isn't guilty.

Explain?

He is a great young corner, if someone said give me a 4th rounder for Jones I would pull the trigger (no pun intended) and never look back. Thats a very low risk for someone who could be a star in the league.

EDIT: And I refuse to call him Pacman....his name is Adam.


No, but he did
A) Punch a topless dancer in the face after grabbing her by the hair and shoving her face into the stage-all because she picked up money he threw at her
B) Bite a chunk out of the ankle of the bouncer that came to her rescue as his posse held the bouncer down
C) Punch the same dancer in the face again as she ran away...


and in my mindset, he knows who shot the guy. I seriously doubt it just happened to be the same night the bouncer gets into the fight and then later gets shot....:wink:

The Confessor
02-24-2007, 10:02 AM
If your saying how do I know he didnt shoot anybody thats simple because no cop or anyone for that matter has accused him of shooting anyone.

Your talking about getting a top ten talent (in terms of draft status) with a 4th rounder. Even if it doesnt work out it's not like we would have broke the bank for him. There are many thugs in the league....Ray Lewis killed someone, Mcmichael beat his wife (multiple times) the entire Bengals roster minus Carson is at risk to be thrown in jail at any time.

At best you get a corner who has the potential to be one of the best in the league, at worst you lose a 4th rounder....not that much risk IMO.

Okay, so we do this deal, and next time he talks Crowder or another young player into coming out to party with him....then what? It is about sooooo much more than a guy who is faster and stronger than his peers....and at this point a 4th is of more value than this guy

CCMiamiDolphins
02-24-2007, 10:11 AM
Nah, hes a trouble maker, and hed make us look like the Bengals

Alex44
02-24-2007, 10:12 AM
Okay, so we do this deal, and next time he talks Crowder or another young player into coming out to party with him....then what? It is about sooooo much more than a guy who is faster and stronger than his peers....and at this point a 4th is of more value than this guy

Assume he doesnt get into major trouble? I'm not saying he is an angel....far from it and he needs help. I think if you can get first round talent for a fourth, at a position of need you should do it. Worst case scenario you cut him, it's not a huge loss. Could a 4th rounder turn out great? Of course, but it's not very likely.

Dolfan4life!
02-24-2007, 10:22 AM
I wouldn't want him on the team if we got him for free and were given cap space as well. He is a thug, period. He has gotten into altercations with Titan's fans after games. Titan's fans! He is an outstanding return man, no doubt about it. He is an average cornerback though, and that's probably being generous. He's just too small to make a real impact on defense.

The Confessor
02-24-2007, 10:23 AM
Assume he doesnt get into major trouble? I'm not saying he is an angel....far from it and he needs help. I think if you can get first round talent for a fourth, at a position of need you should do it. Worst case scenario you cut him, it's not a huge loss. Could a 4th rounder turn out great? Of course, but it's not very likely.

Okay, everytime you ASSuME....nevermind, I wont go there.
If this was his first incident, then perhaps you do it, but it is far from being his first.
I am saying it could be much more than just losing a 4th.
So, you get him in, and for whatever reason he stays out of prison for the first 8-10 weeks of the season... then WHAM, he's gone. THen you have to plug a hole. I would rather plug that hole at this point in the season than week 10.
Just too much downside.

endorPHINS72
02-24-2007, 10:28 AM
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109485


a few articles in here adn a good thread regarding pacman jones. I konw hes a trouble maker but if they would take a 4th round pick, would you do it? i say this b/c he is young, FAST, punt return specialist (3 td's) and extremely talented along with being only in the league for 2 years. i dono is a 4th a risk for his actions?

PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE JOKING!!!

Adam Jones is more troubled than Cecil Collins. He and his entourage need to go to prison because they are a menace to the public.

Spartiate
02-24-2007, 10:32 AM
This guy gets in trouble in Nashville! What do you think is going to happen if he comes here to Miami?

endorPHINS72
02-24-2007, 10:33 AM
Assume he doesnt get into major trouble? I'm not saying he is an angel....far from it and he needs help. I think if you can get first round talent for a fourth, at a position of need you should do it. Worst case scenario you cut him, it's not a huge loss. Could a 4th rounder turn out great? Of course, but it's not very likely.

The guy slammed a stripper head first into a table then punched her repeatedly. He then bit a chunk of the bouncer's ankle off while the girl he was with smashed a bottle of champagne over the bouncer's head. To top it off, Jones' bodyguard shoots the bouncer several times, severing his spinal cord leaving him paralyzed from the waist down.

He needs more than help. He needs to be off the streets and in prison paying for what he did. End of story.

endorPHINS72
02-24-2007, 10:35 AM
He didn't shoot anybody. Did he see who did? Maybe, but he didnt pull the trigger and he isn't guilty.

Explain?

He is a great young corner, if someone said give me a 4th rounder for Jones I would pull the trigger (no pun intended) and never look back. Thats a very low risk for someone who could be a star in the league.

EDIT: And I refuse to call him Pacman....his name is Adam.

Neither did Al Capone.

Stefins
02-24-2007, 10:38 AM
No...
He is a complete LOSER, low-life.

Besides he might bite one of our players.

GEORGIA FIN
02-24-2007, 10:38 AM
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pacman and the Vick boys are one and the same. Tons of ability, but can't give up Thug Life for NFL life. There is no upside to having him on the roster, just another distraction/cancer in the locker room!

FinfanDuda
02-24-2007, 10:41 AM
I say we bring him on. How bad could it be. If he is going the ankle biting route, we would have to bring in some protection for him. We could bring in Mike Tyson to watch his back. I think it would make a pretty intersting season though. It will be hard for Mike to bite anyone's ear off when they have a helmet on. I would be interested to see his strategy.

CCMiamiDolphins
02-24-2007, 10:41 AM
Haha the Vick boys, sounds like a movie.

Alex44
02-24-2007, 10:42 AM
The guy slammed a stripper head first into a table then punched her repeatedly. He then bit a chunk of the bouncer's ankle off while the girl he was with smashed a bottle of champagne over the bouncer's head. To top it off, Jones' bodyguard shoots the bouncer several times, severing his spinal cord leaving him paralyzed from the waist down.

He needs more than help. He needs to be off the streets and in prison paying for what he did. End of story.

Were you there? I think not. So all you know is what you have been told by the media. He is not free from blame but he did not shoot anyone, he didnt take the bottle to the guys head either. So what did he do? Bite an ankle and hit a stripper. I don't think you can go to jail for the actions of those around you, and I dont think ankle biting is a serious offense. I said it before, Mcmichael has beat his wife multiple times and I don't see anyone here demanding he be released or traded. So we are left with ankle biting....you want to keep a guy off a team for ankle biting and the actions of those around him? I don't condone any of what he did, but he needs help and maybe a minor jail sentance.

Sorry thats the outlook you would take in a court of law if you were say....his lawyer.

endorPHINS72
02-24-2007, 10:56 AM
Were you there? I think not. So all you know is what you have been told by the media. He is not free from blame but he did not shoot anyone, he didnt take the bottle to the guys head either. So what did he do? Bite an ankle and hit a stripper. I don't think you can go to jail for the actions of those around you, and I dont think ankle biting is a serious offense. I said it before, Mcmichael has beat his wife multiple times and I don't see anyone here demanding he be released or traded. So we are left with ankle biting....you want to keep a guy off a team for ankle biting and the actions of those around him? I don't condone any of what he did, but he needs help and maybe a minor jail sentance.

Sorry thats the outlook you would take in a court of law if you were say....his lawyer.

You weren't there either, but the people who were there say this is what happened and they have it on video as well.

Stop trying to make it sound as if this was no big deal. This guy is never going to walk again and all you give a **** about is if you can put him on your ****ing Madden roster.

TPD1479
02-24-2007, 11:11 AM
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109485


a few articles in here adn a good thread regarding pacman jones. I konw hes a trouble maker but if they would take a 4th round pick, would you do it? i say this b/c he is young, FAST, punt return specialist (3 td's) and extremely talented along with being only in the league for 2 years. i dono is a 4th a risk for his actions?

Yet another SILLY thread..:shakeno: Why not recruit at SAN QUINTON!!!! :dolphins:

CCMiamiDolphins
02-24-2007, 11:15 AM
All I know is, this guy is always in trouble.

Phins13
02-24-2007, 11:25 AM
Were you there? I think not. So all you know is what you have been told by the media. He is not free from blame but he did not shoot anyone, he didnt take the bottle to the guys head either. So what did he do? Bite an ankle and hit a stripper. I don't think you can go to jail for the actions of those around you, and I dont think ankle biting is a serious offense. I said it before, Mcmichael has beat his wife multiple times and I don't see anyone here demanding he be released or traded. So we are left with ankle biting....you want to keep a guy off a team for ankle biting and the actions of those around him? I don't condone any of what he did, but he needs help and maybe a minor jail sentance.

Sorry thats the outlook you would take in a court of law if you were say....his lawyer.

Alex44, do you know this is his 8th off the field incident in less than 2 yrs after signing his contract!!!:fire: 8th....not made up by the media but facts:tantrum: :tantrum: I do not even want this guy selling popcorn at Dolphin Stadium!!! He even had run ins in college before he got drafted... Not just a simple ankle biting bouncer in a strip club incident when you should be on your hands and knees thanking God you are not in a jail cell after 7 other problems with the law incident. (I cannot believe I just wrote that,like that had to be explained!!!) Alexx44, if you want to see him play, Go to a state or federal prison in a few years, And Cheer all you want, Hopefully you will just be visiting and leaving after the game.:chase:

Fin Fan in Cali
02-24-2007, 11:33 AM
Bro you have to be kidding me with Pacman coming to our team. He shouldn't even be in the league right now. Not no but heck no! He doesn't deserve to be in the NFL at all.

silverloop13
02-24-2007, 11:36 AM
Were you there? I think not. So all you know is what you have been told by the media. He is not free from blame but he did not shoot anyone, he didnt take the bottle to the guys head either. So what did he do? Bite an ankle and hit a stripper. I don't think you can go to jail for the actions of those around you, and I dont think ankle biting is a serious offense. I said it before, Mcmichael has beat his wife multiple times and I don't see anyone here demanding he be released or traded. So we are left with ankle biting....you want to keep a guy off a team for ankle biting and the actions of those around him? I don't condone any of what he did, but he needs help and maybe a minor jail sentance.

Sorry thats the outlook you would take in a court of law if you were say....his lawyer.



No Alex Im not his lawyer. Im a fan of the Miami Dolphins so here is my outlook. I dont want to root for a team that has this guy on it and I wont. Call me not a true fan or whatever but I refuse to root for a team that has a morals of Charles Manson and Biggie Smalls love child.

Its bad enough we have to turn a blind eye to McMike then Saban brings in Little Mexico. Enough is enough. This guy is a thug. I do not want to sit at home and tell my kid " Yeah son he beats women and has a murderous posse, but man hes FAST !"

No thanks. Sorry but if your on tape beating a woman you should go to jail. If any of us did it wed be in jail and wed probably lose our jobs. But this punk gets his name put on messege boards around the country debating giving him a chance.:rolleyes:

melvindillon
02-24-2007, 11:46 AM
let me put it this way, if he can get in that much trouble based from Nashville, TN. Then imagine all the trouble he could get into down in Miami.

LJK825
02-24-2007, 11:49 AM
All I have to say regarding this is people like Pacman does not deserve to play for the Dolphins. It takes class and integrity and you represent not only your current team, but every Dolphin that has played before you. If he wants to join the Bengals or play basketball for the Pacers, then thats fine. You see how bad of a rep teams get for having ungrateful troublemakers on thier team?

Athletes are given the physical ability to play a sport they love and make millions. They are seen as "role models" and heroes for fans everywhere. I would hope everyone on Finheaven considers themselves to be hard working individuals and would love the chance to make millions. Unfortunately not, reality says some will never get close to making millions, let alone the $80K+ Pacman was throwing around at the strip club. How does this make sports fans feel? Knowing how much each of us spend on tickets and memorabilia each year on sports, the HD TV for games, etc... and the athletes we watch and cheer for go out and cause all this trouble. This is not an isolated case, its an epidemic and it makes me sick.

The question is do we consider Pacman? I would hope not. Great player or not, it bigger than than just being able to play football.

dougfinsfan72
02-24-2007, 11:53 AM
I'm all for giving people a second chance, but Pac-Man has had 8 chances in only 2 years. He is a problematic player who spends all his time in the wrong places with the wrong people. With all the money he's got he should be able to meet women outside of strip clubs and dance clubs. He hasn't learned that sometimes you have to disassociate yourself from your past, especially if it's not a law-abiding past.

On top of that, he is not the brightest of individuals either. Who on earth walks around with $81,000 in cash. Has he never heard of credit cards and checking accounts? With the word out that he carries that kind of money around on him it's a matter of time before some young thug kills him and rob him. People have been killed for $50, imagine how many people are planning to rob him right now. We don't need him around any of our other Dolphin players. That kind of problem player we can do without!

CCMiamiDolphins
02-24-2007, 11:55 AM
They should trade him to the Bengals. Him and Henry would get along just fine

dougfinsfan72
02-24-2007, 11:55 AM
let me put it this way, if he can get in that much trouble based from Nashville, TN. Then imagine all the trouble he could get into down in Miami.

He'd be robbed and killed in no time!

phinphan896
02-24-2007, 12:04 PM
oooh, and i want chris henry too

CCMiamiDolphins
02-24-2007, 12:28 PM
Ha we'd be the Portland Jailblazers of the NFL

OneHondo
02-24-2007, 12:28 PM
Maybe we could get Cecil Collins out on parole to be a backup for RB. Please say no to Pacman Jones in Miami where he could drag some of our younger players into the gutter with him!
Also didn't I read that he is on probation or good behavior till June or July to avoid jail time in another case?

miaD5499
02-24-2007, 01:03 PM
i would love to have pacman jones, call me crazy but when hes out on the field hes a beast....its unfortunate that he has such serious off the field issues however his talent could never be looked over. it shouldnt be much of a concern to us however because i dont like the odds of him being released or traded

Fin Fan in Cali
02-24-2007, 01:04 PM
This guy can't even be a decent human being, let alone a proud teammate.:mad:

GEORGIA FIN
02-24-2007, 01:17 PM
They should trade him to the Bengals. Him and Henry would get along just fine


I have to agree, he has Cincinatti Bengals written all over him. What a POS!

SQuinn17
02-24-2007, 02:09 PM
u guys this dude is causing trouble in nashville..imagine him up in south beach? no way!

BillsFanInPeace
02-24-2007, 02:24 PM
The only thing Pacman has done is Make Nate Clements recieve a very big payday in Ten

SR 7
02-24-2007, 02:45 PM
I perfer to have players on this team I can support and be proud that they wear Dolphins uniforms. Pacman is a thug. It doesnt fit. JUST SAY NO
I totally take that statement with credibility. That's why u guys WANT RW back right? He is so honorful and proud to say he wears aqua and orange. A druggy, failure in responsibilkity, loyalty, honesty, back stabber, and a virtueless guy. Now that's the respectful fin I want!! HAAA!

ac_lanham
02-24-2007, 02:47 PM
Adam just needs a reality check, hopefully this incident will open his eyes. With that said, I wouldn't mind him on the Dolphins if he were on a VERY SHORT leash

Crunkcore
02-24-2007, 02:54 PM
No to Pacman.
He doesn't know when NOT to get into trouble :lol:

SR 7
02-24-2007, 02:58 PM
No, but he did
A) Punch a topless dancer in the face after grabbing her by the hair and shoving her face into the stage-all because she picked up money he threw at her
B) Bite a chunk out of the ankle of the bouncer that came to her rescue as his posse held the bouncer down
C) Punch the same dancer in the face again as she ran away...


and in my mindset, he knows who shot the guy. I seriously doubt it just happened to be the same night the bouncer gets into the fight and then later gets shot....:wink:

thats not what i read. I read that a girl from his entourage attacked someone hwen they were tryin to kick all of them out of the club. then out of no wehre a guy in corn rows shot an automatic outside and just ran off.

Irish Phin Fan
02-24-2007, 03:12 PM
Were you there? I think not. So all you know is what you have been told by the media. He is not free from blame but he did not shoot anyone, he didnt take the bottle to the guys head either. So what did he do? Bite an ankle and hit a stripper. I don't think you can go to jail for the actions of those around you, and I dont think ankle biting is a serious offense. I said it before, Mcmichael has beat his wife multiple times and I don't see anyone here demanding he be released or traded. So we are left with ankle biting....you want to keep a guy off a team for ankle biting and the actions of those around him? I don't condone any of what he did, but he needs help and maybe a minor jail sentance.

Sorry thats the outlook you would take in a court of law if you were say....his lawyer.

You really need to grow up kid. Maybe then you will realize what real life is all about. A crime is a crime whether you think it is a big deal or not.

acmeanvil49
02-24-2007, 03:42 PM
He took 81,000 in cash to a strip club and ......"OH MY GOODNESS" It came up missing.....evidently the strippers & manager didnt realize it was for "show" to "make it rain"

I've NEVER heard of giving a stripper money while she is on stage then taking it back....I should have been doing that all along.

Roman529
02-24-2007, 04:27 PM
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109485


a few articles in here adn a good thread regarding pacman jones. I konw hes a trouble maker but if they would take a 4th round pick, would you do it? i say this b/c he is young, FAST, punt return specialist (3 td's) and extremely talented along with being only in the league for 2 years. i dono is a 4th a risk for his actions?

Why stop there?....maybe Lawrence Phillips is available too?
:rolleyes:

HybridPHIN 23
02-24-2007, 04:36 PM
all i know is that guy is a baller....... i really want a player like him on this team.

WestCKoastiN
02-24-2007, 04:41 PM
Pacman = Jailmate #32

Lab3003
02-24-2007, 05:02 PM
Why the moral high horse, fellow posters? Everyone makes off the field mistakes. If a playmaker could be acquired for cheap, I say do it.

endorPHINS72
02-24-2007, 05:31 PM
Why the moral high horse, fellow posters? Everyone makes off the field mistakes. If a playmaker could be acquired for cheap, I say do it.

"Moral high horse"?

We're not talking about being drunk and acting lewd in public. He repeatedly punched a woman in the face (twice), pulled a Mike Tyson on the bouncer leg and when he gets thrown out of the club, his bodyguard shoots the bouncer, severing his spinal cord (hmmm...).

Phanatical
02-24-2007, 05:58 PM
No.

bgbdwolf31313
02-25-2007, 08:09 AM
Why the moral high horse, fellow posters? Everyone makes off the field mistakes. If a playmaker could be acquired for cheap, I say do it.
One or two incidents are a mistake, eight in two years is a pattern. Would I want his talent on the field, yes, but unfortunately, you get stuck with whatever happens off the field. Eventually this guy is gonna wind up in the slammer.

miamiron
02-25-2007, 08:26 AM
Make sure the insurance policy will cover the total loss, Pac-Man on South Beach? 10 minutes, Tops!

Junkyardkid...You are way to optimistic on the 10 minutes
but that would make a nice under/over bet:sidelol:


In all seriousness(if thats a word)what would it cost for an insurance
policy or would The Dolphins be able to find a company that would insure
Mr.Thug?

I think that even though our team has gone through some hard times
on the field the past few years the Dolphins still "TRY" to maintain
some degree of morals and character and other than a few instances we have a team of players that we can be proud of on and off the field.

The addition of the P-Man WOULD NOT ,and should not be the direction we
want to go.

Aussiefinfan54
02-25-2007, 08:57 AM
no way in hell do we take pacman jones he is a disgrace and would be nothing but trouble for this team.

emocomputerjock
02-25-2007, 09:12 AM
The only team he's going to end up on...

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MercuryMan
02-25-2007, 12:33 PM
Point exactly, he would make this team far better on the football field. At this point, that's all I care about.

PacMan + South Beach = Jail or playing up in Canada until his suspension is up.

MercuryMan
02-25-2007, 12:37 PM
He didn't shoot anybody. Did he see who did? Maybe, but he didnt pull the trigger and he isn't guilty.

Explain?



Charlie Manson didn't personally carve up anyone but he's been found guilty of murder. Ordering or paying someone to pull the trigger is the same as doing it yourself.

Metal Panda
02-25-2007, 12:50 PM
Hell no, we need Q-bert and Yar instead.

Ronnie Brown 23
02-25-2007, 02:12 PM
he would give us a good up and coming shutdown corner and a returner

but him in MIami would be worse than him in Tennesee

The Confessor
02-25-2007, 02:26 PM
Okay, here is a list of his "Accomplishments" to date. I cant believe this guy is still walking around in public. Not like this shooting is his first incident, far from it actually.



In October 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003), Jones was sentenced to one year in jail following a bar fight in Morgantown, WV where he and other West Virginia University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_University) football players allegedly beat another student with a pool cue, but the sentence was suspended and he was placed on two years probation.
On July 13 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_13), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005) Jones was arrested on charges of assault and felony vandalism stemming from a nightclub altercation.
On September 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_5), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005) Jones was a guest at the annual Nashville Sports Council Kickoff Luncheon. Later that evening, after a loud verbal tantrum when he was told to wait in line for his vehicle, Jones was counseled by the police. He also refused to pay for any valet services used that evening.
In October 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005), in a petition filed by the state of WV, it was alleged that Jones had not made regular and sufficient contact with his probation officer and that he did not report his July arrest in Nashville in a timely fashion.
The Judge granted the probation extension of 90 days, even though the state requested for it to be extended up to a year.
On August 25 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_25), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006), Jones was arrested in Murfreesboro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murfreesboro), Tennessee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee) for disorderly conduct and public intoxication. He claimed a woman stole his wallet. She claimed that she did not steal anything and Jones spat on her. Police officers said they ordered Jones to leave several times, but he refused and continued to shout profanities at the woman. A judge granted him six months probation on the conditions that he stays out of further trouble and away from the nightclub[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Jones_(American_football)#_note-0)
On October 26 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_26), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006). Jones was cited for misdemeanor assault for allegedly spitting in the face of a female student from Tennessee State University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_State_University) during a private party at Club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightclub) Mystic, a Nashville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville) nightclub. He was suspended by the Titans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titans) for one game and was scheduled to be booked on the charge on November 17 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_17), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006).
During the NBA All-Star Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Star_Game) weekend in Las Vegas (Feb. 16-18, 2007), Jones went to a local strip club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_club), and is alleged to have been involved in an altercation with an exotic dancer. According to the club's co-owner, Jones, there with an entourage of half a dozen people, "made it rain" several hundred one dollar bills. Jones became enraged when one of the strippers began taking the money without his permission and slammed her head on the stage. A security guard intervened and scuffled with member's of Jones' crew. Jones threathened the guard's life. Soon after order was restored, the club owner says a person in Jones entourage returned with a gun and fired into the club hitting three people including the security guard, who survived with minor injuries. One of the people hit, however, has been paralyzed from the waist down. Jones maintains that he did not know the shooter.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Jones_(American_football)

IluvJuMiami
02-25-2007, 02:26 PM
I knew I would come in here and see all the responses that I'm seeing, and I will likely get flammed for what I'm about to say, but hear me out.

I would really like to have Jones on the Dolphins. Can you guys imagine what he would do for our secondary and return game. PacMan can change a game on defense and special teams and is that big play guy the Dolphins have been missing for oh-so long. Sure he is a thug, a bum and a terrible person, but he can do some nifty work with the football.

He won't be here, but he would be a nice addition to the team.

I agree with your assessment of his talent but what good will it do the Dolphins if that talent is locked in a cage?

acmeanvil49
03-03-2007, 07:23 AM
With 81,000 dollars couldnt Pac Man afford a briefcase to tote around that money.