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Danny
06-19-2003, 11:23 AM
I know we'll get lots of different opinions on this one. I was just wondering who do you guys think was the best o-line ever. I can think of 3 right away. The Raiders and Dolphins of the early 70's are 2 of them and the Cowboys o-line of the early 90's.

The Dolphins line was great anchored by Langer, Kooch and Little.
The Raiders with Shell and Upshaw and the boys with Allen, Stephnoski and Williams.

Hard to pick one but I'll go with ours cos 2 are in the HOF and Kooch should be there too. Anyway, all opinions welcome.

Ozzy rules!!

IceStorm
06-19-2003, 11:37 AM
Well, in recent memory I'm going to have to give it to Jimmy Johnsons O line when he was with Dallas. E. Smith just ran all over everyone and that was a direct result of the line. Plus consider how well Aikman did with that line, then compare that directly to how well he did his last 3 years when the O line was gone.

aquaman
06-19-2003, 12:14 PM
The redskins sported some fine lines in the 80's.. we were plastered by one in the superbowl .

steve_t
06-19-2003, 12:34 PM
The Packers had great lines in their championship years (Kramer, Thurston etc). Every team know the "power sweep" was coming but they were powerless to stop it. The Browns had a great line during the Jim Brown years and they seemed to keep it intact the whole time - Jim Brown didn't gain all those yardsall by himself: Hickerson, Wooten, Clark, Shafrath...

Barbarian
06-19-2003, 07:26 PM
There were several great lines, but none could compare to dallas' line in the early 90's. Never has a more dominant line ever stepped on the field. Not to take anything away from Aikmen and Smith, but without that O-Line driving huge holes and giving insane amounts of time, I doubt either guy would be serious HOF candidates.

(I heard that line from several cowboy fans... it was my opinion at the time as well, but hearing them say it validated it in my mind)

chicago dolphin
06-19-2003, 07:30 PM
Definitely the Cowboys line. Best I've ever seen.

mf52dolphin
06-19-2003, 08:05 PM
One offensive line that was outstanding was the St Louis Cardinals line in the mid-1970's. The line was Dan Diedorf, yes the overbearing tv analysist, #72 at left tackle, the legendary and infamous Conrad Dobler #66 at left guard, Tom Banks #54 at center, Bob Young, one-time strongest man in the NFL later a really good guard for the Earl Campbell Houston teams good line coach and probably the poster boy for steroid abuse, #64 at right guard, and Roger Finnie #60 at right tackle. They were great at both pass protection and run blocking. Held the fewest sack record until Marino's time. With Dobler they frustrated and enraged defensive teams.

MOULDSROCKS
06-19-2003, 09:42 PM
'Boys!

MOULDSROCKS
06-19-2003, 09:43 PM
also the Broncos' line in their SB run needs an honorable mention!

Muck
06-19-2003, 09:44 PM
Jimmy had some monsters.

SMadison29
06-19-2003, 09:56 PM
The Cowboys, in 92 & 93 they had Erik Williams**, Nate Newton*, Mark Stepnoski*, Mark Tuinei, Kevin Gogan, & they had a young Ron Stone & TE Jay Novacek*. Then in 95 they had Larry Allen*, Ray Donaldson*, Nate Newton*, Mark Tuinei*, & Erik Williams & Novacek*.

*=pro bowl that year
**=Erik Williams pro bowler in 93 not 92.

MDFINFAN
06-19-2003, 09:57 PM
The best OL's I've seen is the Dolphins 70's line and the Steelers 70's OL's, both were surperb in every area..haven't seen line like them since...not even Jimmy's Dallas OL could control a game like those guys did..it was unbelievable..They both use the slow grind it out run attack, which took time, but no one could stop them..it set up the pass so beautifully..

Danny
06-20-2003, 01:19 AM
I forgot to mention that the Oilers had a great line too once with Mike Munchak and Bruce Matheus as the anchors.

Ozzy rules!!

Clumpy
06-20-2003, 08:07 AM
I would say the Cowboys

baalworship
06-20-2003, 10:00 AM
91' Redskins, 92' Cowboys, 93' Cowboys...

pretty much 3 out of the 4 teams the Bills had to play in the Superbowl...:mad:

DolfanISS
06-20-2003, 11:17 AM
Cowboys of the early 90's, Redskins of the earlier 90's and 49ers of the late eighty's I think. The best line today is the KC Chiefs its no wonder Priest runs wild.

Sofa_King_Drunk
06-20-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
also the Broncos' line in their SB run needs an honorable mention!

Given their propensity for questionable blocking tactics I would make that a dishonorable mention.

FinsGoToGuy
06-20-2003, 03:11 PM
i started watching football in the early 90's so there's only Dallas that comes to my mind.

Coach_Largent
06-21-2003, 03:18 AM
Those Redskin teams with the Hogs were awesome. Like the Cowboys lines, anyone could rack up yards behind them, they were big, but quick and very brutal. Good in the passing and running game.

Broncos and 9ers both used too many questionable tactics.

The Bills late mid-70's line was stout.
Ditto the Steelers.

Also surprising is no mention of the Shell/Upshaw Raiders lines. Absolutely dominant. Powerful run blockers, and could hold long blocks for Lamonica to throw the DEEP ball.

Phins have had some great ones, but for the most part they were more one-dimensional (sometimes pass, sometimes run) than these more phenomonal lines.

bledsoetomoulds
06-21-2003, 08:24 AM
I agree with the cowboys(i'm biased), and the Hogs of the 'skins, but I think Riggins had a lot to do with that, more so than Emmitt w/ the 'boys. As far as most entertaining, i loved the old cowboys when the O-Line collectively stood up to try to confuse the defense

Danny
06-21-2003, 10:54 AM
I did mention the Raiders line when I first started the thread.


Ozzy rules!!

Coach_Largent
06-21-2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Danny
I did mention the Raiders line when I first started the thread.


Ozzy rules!!

and so you did .... missed it -- was overwhelmed by the Bills fans memory of the Pokes lines and subsequent praise.

Danny
06-22-2003, 01:11 AM
I do remember the hogs and how good they were. And every time we talk about the draft and the players that didn't get drafted, I always use Joe Jacoby as an example cos he wasn't even drafted when there used to be 12 rounds and he got to be an all pro.


Ozzy rules!!

bledsoetomoulds
06-22-2003, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by Danny
I do remember the hogs and how good they were. And every time we talk about the draft and the players that didn't get drafted, I always use Joe Jacoby as an example cos he wasn't even drafted when there used to be 12 rounds and he got to be an all pro.


Ozzy rules!!

Hey i'm going to ozzfest again this year, and Jacoby and Russ grimm were king hogs

Danny
06-22-2003, 09:22 PM
I'm going too, agu-28 in west palm beach. Now I just wish Iron Maiden would come to florida.

Ozzy rules!!

WisconsinFan
06-28-2003, 12:25 AM
60's- Packer's
70's- Steeler's
80's - Skin's
90's- Cowboy's


honorable mentions :
60's Cowboys
70's- Phins
80's- 49er's