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echo_bravo
06-20-2003, 05:01 PM
Look at this freak of nature!!!

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?threadid=4321

Ryguy1354
06-20-2003, 05:06 PM
ddddddddaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnmmmmmmmm!! thats huge i wouldnt want to cover him in a game

ckparrothead
06-20-2003, 05:09 PM
Reminds me of Shannon Sharpe, who use to be a WR until he built himself big enough to be a Tight End. His hobby was professional body-building. But Shannon lost some speed, Boston still runs a 4.4

Prime Time
06-20-2003, 05:09 PM
I read this on operationsports.....what's your name over there?

Muck
06-20-2003, 05:11 PM
He's always been huge. Played at 243 lbs the last year.

On the opposite end, you've got Colts DE Dwight Freeney. All 6-1, 208 lbs of him. OG and and Derrius are bigger than him. Hell, there are CBs bigger than that.

everard
06-20-2003, 05:12 PM
he is a huge mofo!

Muck
06-20-2003, 05:14 PM
I'd love to see....

Fred Smoot (5-11, 168)

vs

David Boston (6-2, 243)

:lol: Man, Boston is cut.

Prime Time
06-20-2003, 05:16 PM
:lol: Do they play this year? Even in preseason? :lol:

iceblizzard69
06-20-2003, 05:17 PM
Boston has always been huge. I don't think he is on steroids.

echo_bravo
06-20-2003, 05:18 PM
I always love watching Boston vs that cocky little bitch Woodson. Ever since college, Boston has owned him and made him his personal bitch.

Boy, I hope our CBs are ready for this guy on Monday Night Football.

Hopefully, Boston will be suspended for coke before they play

Muck
06-20-2003, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Prime Time
:lol: Do they play this year? Even in preseason? :lol:

Sadly, no. But Sam and Pat (and hopefully not Jamar Fletcher) will get to see him up close and personal on MNF October 27th.

Muck
06-20-2003, 05:20 PM
I want to see the collision between Sammy Knight and David Boston. To Mack trucks hitting head-on.

Gonk
06-20-2003, 05:21 PM
JESUS

MDFINFAN
06-20-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Muck
I'd love to see....

Fred Smoot (5-11, 168)

vs

David Boston (6-2, 243)

:lol: Man, Boston is cut.

that'll be Madison or Surtain on his guy for a Monday night affair... I'll be in my living room watching..wouldn't want to be there..:lol:

baccarat
06-20-2003, 05:28 PM
David Boston is on steroids? What a big surprise. :rolleyes: What's next? Elton John's gay? :rolleyes2:

Muck
06-20-2003, 05:29 PM
Elton John is gay!?!?

baccarat
06-20-2003, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Muck
Elton John is gay!?!?

believe it or not!

Cranx
06-20-2003, 05:32 PM
Seriously, what in the heck is up with that and how does Arizona let this freak of nature go??????????????

baccarat
06-20-2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Expo88
Seriously, what in the heck is up with that and how does Arizona let this freak of nature go??????????????

Maybe his juice supplier moved out of AZ?

phinphan
06-20-2003, 05:56 PM
Why is it a foregone conclusion that Boston juices??? Believe it or not, it is possible to achieve that kind of body with the right combination of weight training, diet and dedication. Add to that, Boston's obviously superior genetics, and it is not inconceivable that he may be natural. Heck, in my first year of bodybuilding, I gained 30 lbs of lean mass (and yes, I am all natural).

Perhaps he does juice, but personally, I give him the benefit of the doubt. Heck, Ricky Williams is a genetic freak, but I don't see too many people accusing him of steroid use.

Jason in LA
06-20-2003, 06:17 PM
Shannon Sharpe has always been a TE. He was a TE in college, and he was drafted as one in the pros. The guy has always been built.

Here is a post that I wrote on orangemane:

At UCLA I took a physiological science class that was the science behind diet and exercise. This was a very tough class. It broke down what happens in the body when certain types of foods are eaten, and what happens when the body is exercised. It broke it down to the cell level. After taking this class, and reading other books and magazines, I'm telling you it's very possible. I'm not expert on the subject, but I know that eating a certain way, and exercising a certain way will change the body big time.

For a guy like Boston, who was at 210 lbs before he bulked up, to put on that much muscle, he'd have to eat a boatload of protein. At least 2 grams per body weight. He probably ate even more than that. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy threw down 500 grams of protein a day. Do you guys understand how much that is, or what that will do to the body? If he's lifting weights, that's going to make his muscles grow big time. He probably threw down a boatload of carbs as well. Also, like I said before, who knows when he started to bulk up. We all say the offseason. He may have started getting bigger before the season started. Even if he did wait until the offseason, that means he had a good 8 months to do this. 30 lbs in 12 weeks would be tough. But 30 lbs in 32 weeks is very possible.

There is no need to take roids to get big anymore because there is a much better understanding of the human body today than, lets say, 30 years ago. Athletes know how to eat and how to work out. Also there are natural supplements that greatly enhance their programs.

As for the Body For Life challenge, there were some pretty skinny guys that packed on a good amount of muscle in 12 weeks. I've gone through a transformation myself. Not one like Boston did, or like some of the guys that went through the challenge. I went from about 160 lbs at about 10% body fat to about 175 lbs at about 6% body fat in about a 12-week period. I could have done even better, but I couldn't afford all the extra food and supplements that others could. I would have liked to eat 400 grams of protein a day, but that's a whole lot of food. My budget didn't support that. But with what I could do, I put on a good amount of muscle in a short period of time.

Another example is Roy Jones Jr. when he was beefing up to make the jump to heavy weight. He went to a special trainer to get ready. His trainer said he put on a good 20 lbs of muscle in about 8 weeks.

It's very possible to pack on muscle if you understand what the human body can do. Understanding the science behind adding muscle is the key, not taking roids. Right now in bodybuilding there is a natural bodybuilders circuit that's really taking off. Those guys are huge, and they are clean.

Until Boston fails a drug test nobody can say he's on roids. Science backs him up.

Cranx
06-20-2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Jason in LA
Shannon Sharpe has always been a TE. He was a TE in college, and he was drafted as one in the pros. The guy has always been built.

Here is a post that I wrote on orangemane:

At UCLA I took a physiological science class that was the science behind diet and exercise. This was a very tough class. It broke down what happens in the body when certain types of foods are eaten, and what happens when the body is exercised. It broke it down to the cell level. After taking this class, and reading other books and magazines, I'm telling you it's very possible. I'm not expert on the subject, but I know that eating a certain way, and exercising a certain way will change the body big time.

For a guy like Boston, who was at 210 lbs before he bulked up, to put on that much muscle, he'd have to eat a boatload of protein. At least 2 grams per body weight. He probably ate even more than that. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy threw down 500 grams of protein a day. Do you guys understand how much that is, or what that will do to the body? If he's lifting weights, that's going to make his muscles grow big time. He probably threw down a boatload of carbs as well. Also, like I said before, who knows when he started to bulk up. We all say the offseason. He may have started getting bigger before the season started. Even if he did wait until the offseason, that means he had a good 8 months to do this. 30 lbs in 12 weeks would be tough. But 30 lbs in 32 weeks is very possible.

There is no need to take roids to get big anymore because there is a much better understanding of the human body today than, lets say, 30 years ago. Athletes know how to eat and how to work out. Also there are natural supplements that greatly enhance their programs.

As for the Body For Life challenge, there were some pretty skinny guys that packed on a good amount of muscle in 12 weeks. I've gone through a transformation myself. Not one like Boston did, or like some of the guys that went through the challenge. I went from about 160 lbs at about 10% body fat to about 175 lbs at about 6% body fat in about a 12-week period. I could have done even better, but I couldn't afford all the extra food and supplements that others could. I would have liked to eat 400 grams of protein a day, but that's a whole lot of food. My budget didn't support that. But with what I could do, I put on a good amount of muscle in a short period of time.

Another example is Roy Jones Jr. when he was beefing up to make the jump to heavy weight. He went to a special trainer to get ready. His trainer said he put on a good 20 lbs of muscle in about 8 weeks.

It's very possible to pack on muscle if you understand what the human body can do. Understanding the science behind adding muscle is the key, not taking roids. Right now in bodybuilding there is a natural bodybuilders circuit that's really taking off. Those guys are huge, and they are clean.

Until Boston fails a drug test nobody can say he's on roids. Science backs him up.

BFL?? I'm in the midst of the fist 12 weeks (today's the conclusion of my 8th week) and I'm now down almost 20 pounds of fat and have gone from 21% body fat to around 14% and dropping. It's about the best fitness program ever developed period.

As far as Boston goes, he obviously has superior genetics but, I disagree that steroids are as un-prevalent as you seem to think. Sure you can achieve incredible results with some very rigid dieting, supplamentation, and exercise routines however, in order to add almost 40 pounds in musle mass 99% of us out there are going to need some serious (and illegal) help. Human bodies simply are not made to naturally look like any of those men's bodies you see on the covers of body building mags.

I'm not completely discounting what you're saying, I'm just saying that MOST people who are much larger than they should be are not that way by natural means.

phinphan
06-20-2003, 06:37 PM
Nice analysis Jason. Expo, I've gained 30 lbs of lean mass in one year, and don't class myself as particularly genetically gifted.


I guess that I just hear too many people dismissing dedicated athletes, and writing their success off thinking that it must be due to steroid use...meanwhile, they call to their partner to go to the fridge for more beer and chips because they are too lazy to move their considerably sized butt. I am sorry to rant, but I am a little sensitive to this issue, having been accused of steroid use myself. Jason's last paragraph says it all, until he is proved to have taken steroids then I for one will assume that he has just put in the hard work.

BTW, Jason and Expo, congrats on your progress, keep up the good work ;)

FumanChu
06-20-2003, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by phinphan
Why is it a foregone conclusion that Boston juices??? Believe it or not, it is possible to achieve that kind of body with the right combination of weight training, diet and dedication. Add to that, Boston's obviously superior genetics, and it is not inconceivable that he may be natural. Heck, in my first year of bodybuilding, I gained 30 lbs of lean mass (and yes, I am all natural).

Perhaps he does juice, but personally, I give him the benefit of the doubt. Heck, Ricky Williams is a genetic freak, but I don't see too many people accusing him of steroid use.

Steroids alone dont make the muscles.. Steroids plus genetics make the muscles that these freaks have.

And you you didn't gain 30 lbs of lean mass in your first year of bodybuilding.. That statement may fly on a fan website, but anyone in the know will tell you that isn't true.

It is possible to gain 30 lbs in a year, but in no way is it all lean muscle mass. Even the pro bodybuilders don't put on 30 pounds of lean muscle mass in a year and this is with insane amounts of Anabolic and Androgenic steroids with Growth Hormone and Insulin.

Based on that statement, you must also think Barry Bonds put all that weight on in the offseason Naturally.. heheh

Like it or not, Steroids are a big part of professional sports.. in recent years they are using GH (growth hormone) and insulin to also put on muscle. It is more likely the pros would use GH than Anabolic Steroids due to the testing and getting caught juicing would be career suicide..

In NCAA football alone Steroids rule the ranks. There are ways to pass the tests and that extra 15 pounds may be what makes them the starter on the team.

phinphan
06-20-2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by FumanChu


Steroids alone dont make the muscles.. Steroids plus genetics make the muscles that these freaks have.

And you you didn't gain 30 lbs of lean mass in your first year of bodybuilding.. That statement may fly on a fan website, but anyone in the know will tell you that isn't true.

It is possible to gain 30 lbs in a year, but in no way is it all lean muscle mass. Even the pro bodybuilders don't put on 30 pounds of lean muscle mass in a year and this is with insane amounts of Anabolic and Androgenic steroids with Growth Hormone and Insulin.

Based on that statement, you must also think Barry Bonds put all that weight on in the offseason Naturally.. heheh

Like it or not, Steroids are a big part of professional sports.. in recent years they are using GH (growth hormone) and insulin to also put on muscle. It is more likely the pros would use GH than Anabolic Steroids due to the testing and getting caught juicing would be career suicide..

In NCAA football alone Steroids rule the ranks. There are ways to pass the tests and that extra 15 pounds may be what makes them the starter on the team.


However, it has been proven that one can gain 2 lbs of muscle per month on average, and in the initial stages of bodybuilding, gains can balloon to as much as 4-5lbs per month. After my cutting cycle, what I had been left with, was a 30 lb gain in weight, as my bodyfat % had been reduced by 1%, then that would indicate a 30 lb gain.

BTW, I am in the know. I spend much of my time focused on bodybuilding, and indeed learning about the science behind physiology, so whether you believe me or not, is of little interest to me. Science has proved those gains are possible, and infact even in ectomorphs, a realsitic expected gain can be 20lbs in one year. My argument stands, and science supports me.

Muck
06-20-2003, 07:10 PM
Maybe I'm reading the posts incorrectly....but I just want to clarify that Boston didn't bulk up just this year/offseason. He's been doing it for a few years in the NFL. Last year he was 243. So it's much more plausible.

Still, the reason he might get more "steroid wind" than other ripped athletes is because he's been in trouble with drugs and the NFL the last few years. Cocaine being the most recent.

phinphan
06-20-2003, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Muck
Maybe I'm reading the posts incorrectly....but I just want to clarify that Boston didn't bulk up just this year/offseason. He's been doing it for a few years in the NFL. Last year he was 243. So it's much more plausible.

Still, the reason he might get more "steroid wind" than other ripped athletes is because he's been in trouble with drugs and the NFL the last few years. Cocaine being the most recent.

Good points there Muck. I would also add that sometimes players weights are not listed accurately. Heck, some players even seem to shrink in height by an inch or two from year. As far as I can tell, Boston has always been pretty muscular, and as you say, it looks to have been a gradual process.

t2thejz
06-20-2003, 07:37 PM
Wow

RUDEbyallMEANS
06-20-2003, 08:00 PM
Boston also has the luxury of having his own chef to take care of his dieting and eating times and things like that... It is very possible that he's natural

Migs182005
06-20-2003, 08:48 PM
Dare I say, he might compare to Ricky Williams? :eek: :eek: ;)

baccarat
06-20-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by phinphan

Perhaps he does juice, but personally, I give him the benefit of the doubt. Heck, Ricky Williams is a genetic freak, but I don't see too many people accusing him of steroid use.

Ricky doesn't drink let alone steroids. Obviously Ricky takes top notch care of his body, so it wouldn't add up if he was on juice. Boston on the other hand uses coke and it wouldn't surprise me if steroids was another drug of choice for him. He's too big to run that fast. I believe, although I could be wrong, that Boston is as steroid free as Mark McGwire. Just my observation, but I'm sticking to it.

MOULDSROCKS
06-20-2003, 11:35 PM
yeah.....


****... he's bigger than wiley!
is he moving to TE?

minus
06-20-2003, 11:59 PM
No cornerback will be able to cover Boston and only thing can stop him is himself.

MOULDSROCKS
06-21-2003, 12:36 AM
We'd probably have to put Spikes AND a fast MOFO safety on him..... (driver?)

Jason in LA
06-21-2003, 01:00 AM
Damn, another thread moved? There are so many sub catagories here it's hard to find where a thread is moved. If there's a good debate going on it should stay on the main board, where everybody can debate about it. By moving it some place else it'll just die out. I bet a good amount of posters here don't go to all these other boards. They are all at the main board. Let us have our debate.

WharfRat
06-21-2003, 01:23 AM
You can have the debate,

Only if it doesn't pertain to the Dolphins... it will be moved. It's really very simple.
If you've read through the thread you started earlier today... you'll find that you are in the minority.

Here's how it goes.
You can stay and enjoy the boards, follow the TOS, and everyone will be happy.

Or

You can disobey the TOS, and find yourself outside looking in.

Or

You can decide for yourself that this board is not for you, and move on.

That's how it goes here, and the TOS is not open for debate.

Josh Reed
06-21-2003, 01:48 AM
I thought Eric Moulds was big. http://www.finheaven.com/clear.gif David Boston is on something and we won't know it until he dies at a young age.

Jason in LA
06-21-2003, 03:36 AM
The way I see it, at any message board with a number of sub boards, the debates are mostly on one of the boards. I don't see why you guys try to seperate the debates so much. I bet other posters would have liked to continue the debate. But now it's going to die away. The debate in now on a board that has a lot less traffic. Let us have our debates.

Of course most of the people are going to agree with you. They are Fin fans, so they are going to take your side. But they were all in the debate. So why are you going to kill a debate that they were a part of?

The only problem that I have with this board is the mods. You guys suck *** pretty bad.

WharfRat
06-21-2003, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Jason in LA
The way I see it, at any message board with a number of sub boards, the debates are mostly on one of the boards. I don't see why you guys try to seperate the debates so much. I bet other posters would have liked to continue the debate. But now it's going to die away. The debate in now on a board that has a lot less traffic. Let us have our debates.

Of course most of the people are going to agree with you. They are Fin fans, so they are going to take your side. But they were all in the debate. So why are you going to kill a debate that they were a part of?

The only problem that I have with this board is the mods. You guys suck *** pretty bad.

Well, let me put it to you this way.
This board has been here for over two years, and with almost 2000 members, you are the first, and only to have such a major problem with the way the forums are structured.
I told you what your options were, it's not going to change because one member thinks it sucks. Since you are now personally attacking the entire Staff, by placing "The Mods here Suck" in your signature tag, (Something that will be changed, and I will change it for you) I'm giving you your first warning. Personal attacks are a violation of the TOS that you agreed to when you signed up. If you violate TOS in any way in the future, you will be banned.
I'm getting a little weary of arguing with you about the way AJ and I run OUR house. I've been more than patient with you, yet for some reason you seem to be deliberately pushing me, and whatever the reason, it ends here.
I will no longer argue a moot point with you, but I will tell you now, that it will take only one further violation of TOS from you, and you'll be banned from the site without further warning.
Are we clear yet?

Jason in LA
06-21-2003, 03:33 PM
Like I said before, you mods suck. This is a good board with good posters. But you guys seem to be control freaks. You guys say this is a PG 13 board, but it's more like a G board. Saying somebody sucks isn't harsh in anyway. You guys are way too uptight. You guys need to stop running things so strict. We are all adults here, there in no need to police us. Nobody will push the issue because they are your fellow Dolphins fans, and they probably don't want to be banned. They probably have had the same thoughts that I have had, but just aren't saying anything about it. Go ahead and have your power trip by banning me. I'll say it again in what may be my last post here. The posters here are cool, but the mods suck.

XoPhinsoX
06-21-2003, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Jason in LA
The way I see it, at any message board with a number of sub boards, the debates are mostly on one of the boards. I don't see why you guys try to seperate the debates so much. I bet other posters would have liked to continue the debate. But now it's going to die away. The debate in now on a board that has a lot less traffic. Let us have our debates.

Of course most of the people are going to agree with you. They are Fin fans, so they are going to take your side. But they were all in the debate. So why are you going to kill a debate that they were a part of?

The only problem that I have with this board is the mods. You guys suck *** pretty bad.

You sure come to this board a lot for someone who complains as much as you do about it :evil:

Rrodr038
06-21-2003, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by Jason in LA
Like I said before, you mods suck. This is a good board with good posters. But you guys seem to be control freaks. You guys say this is a PG 13 board, but it's more like a G board. Saying somebody sucks isn't harsh in anyway. You guys are way too uptight. You guys need to stop running things so strict. We are all adults here, there in no need to police us. Nobody will push the issue because they are your fellow Dolphins fans, and they probably don't want to be banned. They probably have had the same thoughts that I have had, but just aren't saying anything about it. Go ahead and have your power trip by banning me. I'll say it again in what may be my last post here. The posters here are cool, but the mods suck.

If this is indeed your last post...I only have one thing to say. "Ding, Dong the witch is dead..."

For the future or in case the mods and administrators give you another chance, you should stop making assumptions about other board members. There are other dolphin boards with TOS's that give more slack. We can go to those boards if we choose. Most of us chose not to because we agree with the TOS of this board and/or feel this this is the best Dolphin's board there is. We do not just accept the TOS because we are stuck with it...most of us agree with it and even from time to time try to help mods enforce it (like reminding others of the TOS). Jason since you feel so strongly against this board, you should make your own dolphins board or join another one because all you have been doing is complaining about this one (the TOS, about the amount of homers and about the disregard for the first ammendment). You tell others that they are too uptight, yet you get upset when they (rightfuly) move a thread because you feel it hinders a debate. Why again would it hinder a debate? Even going from the Dolphins board you (and every one else who wants to debate) have a link to the moved thread. What's the big deal? Sorry but from the very moment you got here you were starting trouble and I for one and glad to see you go. Keep up the good work mods and administrators.

WharfRat
06-21-2003, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Jason in LA
Like I said before, you mods suck.

That was as far as I had to read, before putting you on the bus to banned camp. Find another board to complain about, you're finished here.

GetReal
06-21-2003, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by MOULDSROCKS
We'd probably have to put Spikes AND a fast MOFO safety on him..... (driver?)

Spikes is slow

Predaphin
07-03-2003, 04:33 PM
That MOFO is HUGE!!

Scrap
07-08-2003, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by WharfRat


That was as far as I had to read, before putting you on the bus to banned camp. Find another board to complain about, you're finished here.

Now he'll go to another board and say, "This one time, at banned camp......".:lol: :lol: :lol: Thank you! Thank you!I'll be here 'til Friday. Please tip your waitresses.