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TerryTate
06-22-2003, 01:32 AM
Wow, LEnnox Lewis was lucky, if you missed the fight, Lewis was losing to Vitali Klitschko at the end of 6 rounds, but opened up a cut on Vitali's face, and a ring doctor ordered the referee to stop the fight, giving Lewis the victory, Vitali was up 58-56 after 6 rounds....he likely wont get a rematch....

matt

Muck
06-22-2003, 02:58 AM
WOW. I totally missed it (no more HBO :( ).

Yesterday on PTI, George Foreman totally called it. He said that when Lennox has a long layoff, he comes in vulnerable. He even picked Klitschko to win. I hope there's a replay I can catch.



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Den54
06-22-2003, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by Muck
WOW. I totally missed it (no more HBO :( ).

Yesterday on PTI, George Foreman totally called it. He said that when Lennox has a long layoff, he comes in vulnerable. He even picked Klitschko to win. I hope there's a replay I can catch.



http://www.finheaven.com/images/imported/2003/06/a_bloodyi_st-1.jpg

I taped it Muck. PM me you mailing add and I will send it to u.

t2thejz
06-22-2003, 08:47 AM
was it on HBO?

MoFinz
06-22-2003, 10:52 AM
Dude, that wasn't a cut, it was a freaking DIVOT. The cut man was sticking his fingers in the freaking thing. Klitschko showed me more moxy than i thought he had. I like Lewis, but he wasnt prepared and was bound to lose if he hadnt gotten lucky opening up that cavern on Vitalis eye

Muck
06-22-2003, 11:56 AM
Another big shot from ESPN....

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Muck
06-22-2003, 12:00 PM
Lets hope we see a rematch by year's end.

Ultfight
06-22-2003, 12:26 PM
It's going to be awhile before we see a rematch between Lewis and Vitali... That cut is going to take a looong time to heal, and even when it does he is going to have alot of scar tissue there.. Its too bad... with the size of that cut its no doubt going to opened up in a future match.. Although he does have IMO, one of the bet cutman in the business.. (Some say THE best) I just hope Lewis stays out of shape when he fights Vlady... Then the 'pugilist specialist' can stop talking so much trash when he gets knocked out by a vicious straight right.. Althought I never questioned Vitali's heart, even after the Chris Byrd match, I was surprised the way he came in there and 'brawled' with Lewis, although after the match he said that was his plan the entire time.. proved to work, up until the doc stopped the cut.. Merchant and Lampley said it best, one of the best heavyweight title fights in the last 20 years, as far as pure excitement is concerned.

XoPhinsoX
06-22-2003, 12:42 PM
Lewis is a good boxer, but I don't think he's all that great. There isn't a whole lot of competetion out there in boxing anymore.

I think if Tyson and Lewis fought again with street rules, Tyson would probably destroy him, heh.

Muck
06-22-2003, 01:35 PM
Kellerman said that Lewis was starting to get going in the 6th. He also said that Lewis didn't appear to be in top form.

Ult made reference to "I hope Lewis stays out of shape". And that's the root of it all. When Lewis comes in at his best, he can beat anyone on the planet. Then again, is that still in him (that form)??

From everything I'm hearing and reading, it sounds like it was going to be a classic had it gone all the way. I can't wait to see this fight. When I get it, I'll make a montage of the big shots and post it here. :)

jmenjes
06-22-2003, 01:49 PM
If you get HBO2, the fight will be shown again tonight at 7:30 pm ET.

I took a look thru my TiVo listings, and did not see a replay being shown on HBO at all.

Ultfight
06-22-2003, 01:57 PM
When Lewis is motivated to fight, the fights have never really ever been a contest.. But at his age (37) and coming in at that weight (256) one has to wonder if he can get back into top physical form.. He was bragging about how great of shape he was in at the Gatti vs. Ward III fight. While I think he is the best heavyweight out today, I dont think he makes for a good champion.. I just find him boring and arrogant.. Either way, he has yet to fight the best Klitschko, regardless what Byrd says about Vitali's Russian style. And he is about the worst trash-talker ever.. Makes me laugh everytime I listen to him.. Even after the fight Merchant was laying into him in the interview, you could tell Lewis was agitated, he never expected the fight to go at that pace.

Ive also never seen Lewis that winded, and I have seen almost all of his fights even going back to the Olympics.. he just plopped down on the stool like an old man. Even though Lewis was talking trash and wasnt too enthused about a rematch, his trainer, E. Steward, THE best trainer in boxing, said that Lewis will probably give a rematch, he doesnt want his reputation tarnished. Even though Lewis would rather have a another Tyson fight or fight RJJ. Both easier fights with a larger draw. Although if Lewis comes in sloppy like last night against RJJ, I think RJJ could get a JD. He just better stay away from Lewis' power, regardless of what shape he is in.

XoPhinsoX
06-22-2003, 06:33 PM
Lewis vs Tyson (both in prime)..

Who you think would win?

Ultfight
06-22-2003, 07:25 PM
I would definately have to go with Lewis.. They actually sparred each other one time back when they both were amateurs, and from the accounts I heard, Lewis was owning him.. There is no doubt Tyson has more KO power than Lewis, but Lewis has a nice size and reach advantage... And Lewis, without a doubt, is a better pure boxer than Tyson ever was.. He just has more in his arsenal than Mike.. But then again, Tyson in his prime was ferocious, and had that killer instinct that Lewis has only shown flashes of.. It would be a helluva fight thats for sure.

Muck
06-22-2003, 10:12 PM
Lewis is the exact type of fighter that has always given Mike problems.....be it in his prime or later years. Everyone that has beaten Tyson has done it the same way. Douglas, Holyfield (twice), and Lewis were all big and strong enough to push Tyson away when he'd try to get inside. They kept him at bay with the stiff jab and held when he got close. They made him one-dimensional. The same one-dimensional fighter he exclusively is today.

Even Bonecrusher Smith rendered him ineffective by running and holding 20-year old Tyson (boy remember that sledghammer he laid on Mike at the end of the 12th!!). Razor Ruddock had two wars with "primed" Mike. Then Lennox Lewis destroyed him (Razor) on Halloween. Heck, scared Frank Bruno was owning him until Mike punched his way out. That's the thing with Mike. He always had the puncher's chance.

The fact is, Tyson was a bully who didn't fight a lot of good fighters in his hayday. And the ones he did fight were generally old and past their prime (Spinks, Holmes). He simply intimidated and overwhelmed everyone he faced. The irony is, he was always scared before his fights back then. Coulda fooled us, right?? :)

Could he have beaten Lewis back then?? Sure. But Lewis could just as easily have beaten him too. Would have been great to see. Just as it would have been great to see Lewis and Riddick Bowe fight in the pros.

Justasportsfan
06-23-2003, 09:09 AM
Lewis got his A$$ whooped.

I met him in So. Beach. Although he talked smack on t.v. he's pretty cool in person. You can talk to him like he's one of the guys.

Muck
06-23-2003, 02:54 PM
I don't think it's odd or even annoying when champions sound supremely confident or talk trash in public. It's almost in their job description. I like Lewis because he's not a thug. He's a very well-mannered and sophisticated. But he can fight. I think I like him because he's so different than everyone else out there. Then again, he's one of the only visible Brits in the sport.

Ultfight
06-23-2003, 05:23 PM
Nah I love some good trash talking confidence.... but Lewis just sucks at it... Esp. when he refers to himself constantly as a 'pugilist specialist' just makes me laugh.. He's also far too confident.. if he respected fighters more he probably wouldnt have any losses.. Its also hard to take him as a serious fighter with that accent "Shine ya shoes, govna? Cheerio!!"

Has anyone ever seen the SNL with Conan O'Brien hosting?? He plays this old white English boxer who was the champ before they allowed black boxers to compete.. He would then start to talk trash.. It was hilarious..

Muck
06-23-2003, 07:30 PM
Saw that one. Good stuff. Conan is great.

Muck
06-24-2003, 11:55 PM
Klitschko just made a quick appearence during Jay Leno's monologue. Man, the left side of his face is FUBAR'd!! It didn't even look real. Wow. But a cool guy though.

Muck
06-25-2003, 01:27 AM
Just saw the fight. I wouldn't call it an azz whooping. But it probably would have gone that way had Vitaly's eye not been cut. Lewis was too heavy and out of shape. He looked very sluggish and was not nearly in as good of condition al Vitaly. And Klitch hurt him early and often. It's really too bad, as I believe he likely would have knocked out Lewis. He was in shape. He was determined. He showed the strength and adequate speed. And he controled the pace of the fight.

Once that eye opened up, the fight changed. And when it got really bad (when he couldn't see), it was amazing that he was still in there and landing punches. I don't think Lewis would have landed those two big shots.

Didn't get to see the interview afterwards. So I can't comment there. Great fight though.

Den54
06-25-2003, 09:32 AM
Sorry about not getting the interview on there but you did'nt miss much. Lewis did'nt want to give any respect to the guy and said he would have knocked him out in the next round or two.

Muck
06-26-2003, 12:00 AM
Hey NP.

KO'd him in the next round or two?? If Vitaly's eye kept getting worse......possibly. But he still didn't look very good even when Klitch was fighting with one eye. And he didn't seem to hurt him at all.