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Winbaby#23
03-07-2007, 08:02 PM
Was just listening to Sirius radio and they said Willis Mcgahee was traded to the Ravens for a 2nd and 5th rounders in next years draft.

Crypt Keeper
03-07-2007, 08:23 PM
I also heard that Chris Brown or Corey Dillion could be the Bills starting RB next year. :roflmao:

In_Flames
03-07-2007, 08:27 PM
glad to see McGahee out of Buffalo...now we just need to get Vilma out of New York...Go Canes! :D

BuffaloSoldier2
03-07-2007, 08:57 PM
I also heard that Chris Brown or Corey Dillion could be the Bills starting RB next year. :roflmao:
I also heard Danute Culpepper is the Dolphins starting QB next year. :sidelol:

P.S. Your "young stud" Ronnie Brown ran for a whooping 0.1 more yard per carry and was outscored in tds 13 to 7 by "old man" Dillion.

Also, Chris Brown rushed for more yards in a season than Ronnie and Chris is a whooping 8 months older.

Checks your facts before posting homey. :ninja:

Crypt Keeper
03-07-2007, 09:01 PM
I also heard Danute Culpepper is the Dolphins starting QB next year. :sidelol:

P.S. Your "young stud" Ronnie Brown ran for a whooping 0.1 more yard per carry and was outscored in tds 13 to 7 by "old man" Dillion.

Also, Chris Brown rushed for more yards in a season than Ronnie and Chris is a whooping 8 months older.

Checks your facts before posting homey. :ninja::lol:

Winbaby#23
03-07-2007, 09:03 PM
I also heard Danute Culpepper is the Dolphins starting QB next year. :sidelol:

P.S. Your "young stud" Ronnie Brown ran for a whooping 0.1 more yard per carry and was outscored in tds 13 to 7 by "old man" Dillion.

Also, Chris Brown rushed for more yards in a season than Ronnie and Chris is a whooping 8 months older.

Checks your facts before posting homey. :ninja:Nice upgrade..LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BuffaloSoldier2
03-07-2007, 09:06 PM
Nice upgrade..LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Hey, I'm just gonna trust my man Marv over some fin fans who thought they were Super Bowl contenders last year. :wink:

The deal isn't final but both Dillion and Chris Brown have proven more in the NFL than any rb on your roster. I speak the truth. :cooldude:

SKing29
03-07-2007, 10:48 PM
Well, Dillion is washed up and when most people here the name Chris Brown they think of the teenage pop singer, and don't even know that there is an NFL RB with the same name, so smooth move there Bills. :)

dominizzo
03-07-2007, 10:53 PM
Chris Brown what a joke

Majpain
03-07-2007, 10:55 PM
Are the Jills stupid? 2nd and 5th round in NEXT YEARS DRAFT? Wow what *******es.

Dolfan4life34
03-08-2007, 12:34 AM
how long before chris brown is hurt................................................................................................................................................................
just herd he tripped and broke his leg while reading the bills were stupid enough to overpay him.

dreday
03-08-2007, 12:45 AM
Just gonna guess Willis wanted out of there as the reason the Bills did this.

Crunkcore
03-08-2007, 01:35 AM
Looks like a good pickup for the Ravens.

Enforcerfin33
03-08-2007, 09:31 AM
How come this isnt all over the news?

PhinzN703
03-08-2007, 11:15 AM
I also heard Danute Culpepper is the Dolphins starting QB next year. :sidelol:

P.S. Your "young stud" Ronnie Brown ran for a whooping 0.1 more yard per carry and was outscored in tds 13 to 7 by "old man" Dillion.

Also, Chris Brown rushed for more yards in a season than Ronnie and Chris is a whooping 8 months older.

Checks your facts before posting homey. :ninja:

No Superbowls man. Always remember

3rd and long
03-08-2007, 11:51 AM
How come this isnt all over the news?

Because it's not true yet. It's just a rumor.

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 12:29 PM
Listen this trade did not happen. And if it does it will be for picks in this years draft. Reports are like a second and a 6th. Or a second in this years and 5th next years.

Plus Tenn is offering as well. So welcome to the bidding wars for a very AVG running back.

AGAIN this trade has not happened yet all speculation.

FINdestructible
03-08-2007, 12:40 PM
:lol:


:yeahthat:

nick1
03-08-2007, 01:08 PM
good, he is a very good back. glad to have him out of the divison because now I can root for him as I am a UM fan.

nick1
03-08-2007, 01:09 PM
look on ESPN.com, it's posted in the breaking news area so yes it did indeed happen

nick1
03-08-2007, 01:11 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2791831

Bills get this year's 3rd and 7th rounders and next year's 3rd rounder

Vertical Limit
03-08-2007, 01:14 PM
Listen this trade did not happen. And if it does it will be for picks in this years draft. Reports are like a second and a 6th. Or a second in this years and 5th next years.

Plus Tenn is offering as well. So welcome to the bidding wars for a very AVG running back.

AGAIN this trade has not happened yet all speculation.
Yup. Bills win in this trade IMO.

Da_Franchise
03-08-2007, 01:15 PM
Lmao. We got similar value for Welker as the Buffalo got for McGahee, they lost their only offensive stud, and to top it off are trying to replace him with Dillon or Brown.

Let's be honest, Dillon's best days were behind him a few years ago. Now he is just shot. I think I could outrun this guy on the sideline.

And Chris Brown? Lol... Chris Brown? The Titans unloaded this kid. He has potential to be somebody, if he could just stop fumbling. Oh and of course if he didn't run so upright, but I guess at 6'3" that'll never happen.

The Bills look to be in some serious trouble.

Vertical Limit
03-08-2007, 01:31 PM
Lmao. We got similar value for Welker as the Buffalo got for McGahee, they lost their only offensive stud, and to top it off are trying to replace him with Dillon or Brown.

Let's be honest, Dillon's best days were behind him a few years ago. Now he is just shot. I think I could outrun this guy on the sideline.

And Chris Brown? Lol... Chris Brown? The Titans unloaded this kid. He has potential to be somebody, if he could just stop fumbling. Oh and of course if he didn't run so upright, but I guess at 6'3" that'll never happen.

The Bills look to be in some serious trouble.
Willis McGahee is not as good as you make him out to be. I rather have Wes Welker, atleast Wes gives it his all every Sunday. Willis is lazy, and only plays when he wants to play.

Mike13
03-08-2007, 01:31 PM
Not a bad move.

nick1
03-08-2007, 01:33 PM
Yup. Bills win in this trade IMO.

no they don't, the Ravens are picking at the bottom of the round and should be next year too. so therefore it's basically 2 4ths and a 7th, not good value. we got more for Welker

Da_Franchise
03-08-2007, 02:18 PM
Willis McGahee is not as good as you make him out to be. I rather have Wes Welker, atleast Wes gives it his all every Sunday. Willis is lazy, and only plays when he wants to play.

I hate Willis, and love Wes. However fact is;

Willis averaged 82 yards a game in offensive production and put up 6 TD's with 52 FD's (and 2 turnovers).


Wes averaged 43 yards a game in offensive production and put up 1 TD with 33 FD's (and 1 turnover).

Stats don't lie, Willis contributed much more. Even more so is this is McGahee's worst season of his career vs. Wes' best season of his career.

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 02:26 PM
Welker would be valued more, A RB is a dime a dozen in this league anymore. Look at the final four all used a two back system.

Second Willis is no LT but yet wanted to be paid like one. So we got a 3rd 7th and a 3rd next year for an AVG RB.

We bring in Rhodes or Dillon to split time with Maybe Lynch at 12 and welcome to a new offense for Buffalo.

Very good deal for an over hyped AVG RB

nick1
03-08-2007, 02:30 PM
Welker would be valued more, A RB is a dime a dozen in this league anymore. Look at the final four all used a two back system.

Second Willis is no LT but yet wanted to be paid like one. So we got a 3rd 7th and a 3rd next year for an AVG RB.

We bring in Rhodes or Dillon to split time with Maybe Lynch at 12 and welcome to a new offense for Buffalo.

Very good deal for an over hyped AVG RB

I don't see how you can justify this move, RBs are not a dime a dozen. half of the teams in this league need a RB. Willis is far from average, average back don't get 1,000 yards 3 years in a row behind a bad o-line. Welker should and is not valued higher then a guy who touches the ball 20 more times a game then he does. horrible trade

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 02:34 PM
I don't see how you can justify this move, RBs are not a dime a dozen. half of the teams in this league need a RB. Willis is far from average, average back don't get 1,000 yards 3 years in a row behind a bad o-line. Welker should and is not valued higher then a guy who touches the ball 20 more times a game then he does. horrible trade

He did not have 1000 yards this year.

Called out his Offense last week.

Said he would hold out if he does not get an extension.

Cannot Block

Bad hands

WR are by far more valued in the NFL than a RB sorry to say it. Thomas Jones has put up better numbers and Bears got less in the trade than the Bills did for McGahee

Good trade.

nick1
03-08-2007, 02:38 PM
He did not have 1000 yards this year.

Called out his Offense last week.

Said he would hold out if he does not get an extension.

Cannot Block

Bad hands

WR are by far more valued in the NFL than a RB sorry to say it. Thomas Jones has put up better numbers and Bears got less in the trade than the Bills did for McGahee

Good trade.

he got 990 yards give me a break so he came up 10 yards short, it's still a 1,000 yard season in my book. Thomas Jones got more value then McGahee got you period. look at a value chart, a early 2nd is more then 2 late 3rds and a 7th. horrible trade

nick1
03-08-2007, 02:39 PM
and you have your priorities messed up if you value a WR more then you do a RB

NYinBostonFin
03-08-2007, 02:41 PM
Why are there 3 threads in a row about this?

FEARDAFINS
03-08-2007, 02:42 PM
Welker would be valued more, A RB is a dime a dozen in this league anymore. Look at the final four all used a two back system.

Second Willis is no LT but yet wanted to be paid like one. So we got a 3rd 7th and a 3rd next year for an AVG RB.

We bring in Rhodes or Dillon to split time with Maybe Lynch at 12 and welcome to a new offense for Buffalo.

Very good deal for an over hyped AVG RB
If RB's are a dime a dozen, why do you use a first round pick on one who can't play for 2 years.

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 02:47 PM
he got 990 yards give me a break so he came up 10 yards short, it's still a 1,000 yard season in my book. Thomas Jones got more value then McGahee got you period. look at a value chart, a mid 2nd is more then 2 late 3rds and a 7th. horrible trade

One how can you say next years will be a Mid third. And two I am sure fin fans are happy with a back that is right around 1000 yards. But if you are a feature back you better be closer to 1500 a season. AND SCORE some TDs. Not to mention pick up a 4th and 1, or if you do not dont come out and say OOO I thought it was 3rd and 1

Thats fine another fan that has bought into the POTENTIAL not the PRODUCTION.

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 02:48 PM
If RB's are a dime a dozen, why do you use a first round pick on one who can't play for 2 years.

Because Donahoe was a moron. There was no reason to draft him in the first place when you have Travis a 1300 yard back at the time.

nick1
03-08-2007, 02:50 PM
with Detriot, Oakland, Tennessee, NY Giants, Green Bay, Houston and now Buffalo all having questions as to who is their RB is it shows you how wrong you are and infact good RBs are hard to find. with the teams I mentioned all looking for RBs, you could have done alot better value wise

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 02:50 PM
and you have your priorities messed up if you value a WR more then you do a RB

In todays NFL they are. That is why you see Welker get what he did. Not to mention it was to a team that adopted a TWO back system. Thats is why RBs are not valued like they used to be. WELCOME to a TWO back system.

nick1
03-08-2007, 02:54 PM
One how can you say next years will be a Mid third. And two I am sure fin fans are happy with a back that is right around 1000 yards. But if you are a feature back you better be closer to 1500 a season. AND SCORE some TDs. Not to mention pick up a 4th and 1, or if you do not dont come out and say OOO I thought it was 3rd and 1

Thats fine another fan that has bought into the POTENTIAL not the PRODUCTION.

:rolleyes2 you make the playoffs and you are automatically picking from 22-32, that is a late round pick. McGahee was a very good back and you'll see as he tears it up in Baltimore now.

and I find it funny how you had McGahee in your avator just a minute ago and now your bashing him

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 02:54 PM
with Detriot, Oakland, Tennessee, NY Giants, Green Bay, Houston and now Buffalo all having questions as to who is their RB is it shows you how wrong you are and infact good RBs are hard to find. with the teams I mentioned all looking for RBs, you could have done alot better value wise

Um no they could not have OR Marv would have. Detriot has Bell and Jones, Tenn White (was in trade talks with buffalo did not offer more) Giants Jacobs and would not give up a day 1 pick as reported. Pack did not even talk to the bills about Willis.

Listen Denver knows good RBs but yet they pulled out of trade talks and signed Travis Henry. Bottom line is most fans do not even come close to knowing what value is. I would rather have got 2 thirds and a 7th from Willis than nothing. Which would have happened anyway.

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 02:56 PM
:rolleyes2 you make the playoffs and you are automatically picking from 22-32, that is a late round pick. McGahee was a very good back and you'll see as he tears it up in Baltimore now.

and I find it funny how you had McGahee in your avator just a minute ago and now your bashing him

I am not bashing him. I SAID he was an AVG back. And the Bills made a good trade. That is what I said. Of course I cheered for him he was in a BIlls Uni.

nick1
03-08-2007, 02:58 PM
Um no they could not have OR Marv would have. Detriot has Bell and Jones, Tenn White (was in trade talks with buffalo did not offer more) Giants Jacobs and would not give up a day 1 pick as reported. Pack did not even talk to the bills about Willis.

Listen Denver knows good RBs but yet they pulled out of trade talks and signed Travis Henry. Bottom line is most fans do not even come close to knowing what value is. I would rather have got 2 thirds and a 7th from Willis than nothing. Which would have happened anyway.

:sidelol: I gonna stop reading your posts now because it is getting very ridiculous now. I'll just end it with this, do you really trust in Marv Levy?

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 03:00 PM
:sidelol: I gonna stop reading your posts now because it is getting very ridiculous now. I'll just end it with this, do you really trust in Marv Levy?

Yes. Let me ask you this do you really trust your Oline and QBs?

nick1
03-08-2007, 03:06 PM
Yes. Let me ask you this do you really trust your Oline and QBs?

what does that have to do with anything? your trying to say this was a good trade when Levy has made some very questionable moves in the past. Thomas Jones is a lesser back then Willis McGahee and he got better value in a trade. thats how horrible this trade is

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 03:12 PM
Thomas Jones is not a lesser back look at the Stats. And with the way the Front office can draft I do not mind this trade. I mean we did get three starters second day, not to mention Youboty in the 3rd and Ko Simpson in the 4th. I am glad he is gone.

I would not mind at all seeing Lynch, Booker, Bush in a Bills Uni. I do know whoever will be the RB will be able to catch and block. Something Willis has SHOWN he cannot do.

nick1
03-08-2007, 03:14 PM
Thomas Jones is not a lesser back look at the Stats. And with the way the Front office can draft I do not mind this trade. I mean we did get three starters second day, not to mention Youboty in the 3rd and Ko Simpson in the 4th. I am glad he is gone.

I would not mind at all seeing Lynch, Booker, Bush in a Bills Uni. I do know whoever will be the RB will be able to catch and block. Something Willis has SHOWN he cannot do.

stats don't tell the whole story man you should know that

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 03:19 PM
stats don't tell the whole story man you should know that

Yes they do not but here is the reality.

Had better stats.

NEVER Called out his Oline, saying they are why type of stuff.

NEVER publically come out and said I am the best RB in the NFL

NEVER said well the Bears should move to toronto

NEVER Publically said I better get an extension or I will hold out.

So hence again I say gettin 3 picks for an AVG RB that runs his mouth more than produces on the field I say still good trade.

BillsFanInPeace
03-08-2007, 03:23 PM
Also on a side note, The offensive coaches have had to call him out every year, and then on top of that mention he did not know the new playbook or did not study.

I do not want someone that thinks he is better than the team on the team.

NJFINSFAN1
03-08-2007, 03:25 PM
POSTED 2:14 p.m. EST, March 8, 2007
McGAHEE TRADE HINGES ON NEW DEAL
We were caught up in some day-job stuff earlier today, and we're catching up on the flow of the NFL info.
Here's what we know about the McGahee deal, plenty of which is already reported elsewhere. The Ravens sent a third-round pick and a seventh-round pick in 2007 and a third round pick in 2008. The deal hinges on the Ravens working out a long-term extension with McGahee, and the deadline is March 13.
Stay tuned.

NJFINSFAN1
03-08-2007, 04:00 PM
Posted 2:49 p.m. EST, March 8, 2007
EARLY NUMBERS ON McGAHEE DEAL
Though the deal is not yet final, we're told that the contract will most likely include a three-tiered signing bonus worth $15 million.
Under those terms, we would get $7.5 million to sign, an initial option bonus of $6 million, and a second option bonus of $1.5 million.
Stay tuned.

DaBills4life
03-08-2007, 04:18 PM
he got 990 yards give me a break so he came up 10 yards short, it's still a 1,000 yard season in my book. Thomas Jones got more value then McGahee got you period. look at a value chart, a early 2nd is more then 2 late 3rds and a 7th. horrible trade

I did. The Bears moved from 63 to 37, worth 254. The Bills get the Ravens 3rd, worth 128. If they finish with the 29th pick again, the 2 picks equal 256, which is more value then the Bears got.

nick1
03-08-2007, 04:24 PM
I did. The Bears moved from 63 to 37, worth 254. The Bills get the Ravens 3rd, worth 128. If they finish with the 29th pick again, the 2 picks equal 256, which is more value then the Bears got.

fine bad example, didn't know they gave away the #63. just because the Bears didn't get good value doesn't justify you guys getting bad value. Welker got up a 2nd and a 7th and he's a WR. WR are way below RBs in terms of value

DaBills4life
03-08-2007, 04:30 PM
fine bad example, didn't know they gave away the #63. just because the Bears didn't get good value doesn't justify you guys getting bad value. Welker got up a 2nd and a 7th and he's a WR. WR are way below RBs in terms of value

Welker was a Restricted free agent. Welker was tendered a 2nd round pick. Thats not even a trade, the Pats just signed him. You have to give up more for RTA's.

Willis Mcgahee just wasnt that good, on film or his stats. We got a only 1 third rounder for Henry, and the guy had much better years then Willis. Corey Dillon had much better years, only one third.

McGahee has a huge name, which is bigger then his game. He is not a top 5 RB, he is a dime a dozen RB.

Aqua and Orange
03-08-2007, 04:32 PM
I am amazed this deal happened. It would appear that the Ravens upgraded over Jamal Lewis and didn't give up nearly what the Pats gave up for Welker.

Crazy!

nick1
03-08-2007, 04:37 PM
Welker was a Restricted free agent. Welker was tendered a 2nd round pick. Thats not even a trade, the Pats just signed him. You have to give up more for RTA's.

Willis Mcgahee just wasnt that good, on film or his stats. We got a only 1 third rounder for Henry, and the guy had much better years then Willis. Corey Dillon had much better years, only one third.

McGahee has a huge name, which is bigger then his game. He is not a top 5 RB, he is a dime a dozen RB.

:tantrum: pay attention, it was a trade not a FA signing. the Pats were going to sign him to an offer sheet but didn't. instead we signed him traded him for a 2nd and a 7th rounder

DaBills4life
03-08-2007, 04:48 PM
:tantrum: pay attention, it was a trade not a FA signing. the Pats were going to sign him to an offer sheet but didn't. instead we signed him traded him for a 2nd and a 7th rounder

Whatever, the Patriots had to give up a 2nd round no matter what because thats what Welker was tendered.

TotoreMexico
03-08-2007, 09:18 PM
He did not have 1000 yards this year.

Called out his Offense last week.

Said he would hold out if he does not get an extension.

Cannot Block

Bad hands

WR are by far more valued in the NFL than a RB sorry to say it. Thomas Jones has put up better numbers and Bears got less in the trade than the Bills did for McGahee

Good trade.

That's weird, according to your fellow bills homers, you're wrong...

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=161389&highlight=best+rb+in+afc+ronnie+willis

Crisis
03-08-2007, 10:00 PM
That's weird, according to your fellow bills homers, you're wrong...

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=161389&highlight=best+rb+in+afc+ronnie+willis

Like I couldn't find the same thing with McMichael.

Mr.Majestik
03-09-2007, 06:04 AM
The Ravens trade two third-round picks, and a seventh, then turn around and give McGahee a 40 mil. contract? It doesn't make any sense. No team has drafted better then the Baltimore Ravens in the last ten-years. They are the gold standard. So why would you trade that much for a guy with a career 3.9 ypc average, a major knee reconstruction, and questionable team ethic when Newsome could have easily gotten himself a running back just as good in the draft for a fraction of the price? The Ravens let a better running back go last year--Chester Taylor--hell, they kept Jamal Lewis when they should have kept Chester Taylor. The Ravens have a major cap situation brewing after next season, they just made it worse by trading for McGahee. I hate to say it, but the Bills duped the Ravens. The Bills probably will draft a running back and get excellent production from him.

B-LO, BABY
03-09-2007, 08:30 PM
what does that have to do with anything? your trying to say this was a good trade when Levy has made some very questionable moves in the past. Thomas Jones is a lesser back then Willis McGahee and he got better value in a trade. thats how horrible this trade is
Look at Levy's draft last year compared to your GM's. Look at Thomas Jones' stats compared to McGahee's last year. How is moving up 20 spots in the second round more valuable than two first-day picks and a seventh rounder.

Didn't you learn your lesson from last offseason? Buffalo is a superior team to Miami in almost every fashion. Give it up.

IAFINFAN
03-09-2007, 09:51 PM
Bills won't get Dillion, saw an interview and he wants to go to a playoff team since he is at the end of his career. He said he would like the Eagles or the Jets but not Buffalo. If Brown is all they can pick up they could be in trouble. Can't see how Buffalo doesn't draft a RB in this draft. Made some move to improve the Oline so RB would be a must for them. Brown isn't the answer, much to fragile for the NFL and know way he can make through the season undinged. Tenn had several issues with him and he was younger than he is now and couldn't be counted on the last couple of years and Tenn has a much better Oline that Buffalo has right now.