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LAMiamifan
03-21-2007, 10:59 PM
What is the deal with our horrible first round picks??? I get that we had a lot of late picks but this list is really pretty pathetic. Avery was such an obvious bad pick.... same with Fletcher. We really needed him when Pat and Sam were both playing at probowl levels. Milner?? Yatil was just bad luck, but Hill was a bust. Word's still out on Allen and Carey but they both haven't impressed me too much. Gardener was a stud but major injuries. And McDuffie.. great possession wr but the hands were questionable and not first round talent. If you throw in Ricky for the 2002 and 2003 picks it's even worse. And I love Ronnie, but you're kidding yourself if you wouldnt rather have Peterson... Ronnie needs to prove a lot more for the money he's getting. Marco, Timbo and Vincent all had their day in the sun, but 16 years and thats it??? No more busts... i dont want a big Dlineman, but it seems like that's what this draft has to offer safely and its better than Ginn (who i kinda wanted) turning out to be another Troy Williamson or getting the best of a bad crop of Olineman. CB's are soft in this class and we dont want to use it on a Safety. QB's arent gonna drop. UGH... i dont mean to be a whiner but how about a bigtime first rounder for once!! I'm starting to think for the longterm our guy is probably Okoye. He's got a lot to learn but his potential is endless considering his age and skills. Or Branch if he falls??

Miami 1st round picks since 1990
YEAR PK(OVR) NAME POS SCHOOL
2006 16(16) JASON ALLEN DS TENNESSEE
2005 2(2) RONNIE BROWN RB AUBURN
2004 19(19) VERNON CAREY OG MIAMI (FLA.)
2001 26(26) JAMAR FLETCHER CB WISCONSIN
1998 29(29) JOHN AVERY RB MISSISSIPPI
1997 15(15) YATIL GREEN WR MIAMI (FLA.)
1996 20(20) DARYL GARDENER DT BAYLOR
1995 25(25) BILLY MILNER OT HOUSTON
1994 20(20) TIM BOWENS DT MISSISSIPPI
1993 25(25) O.J. MCDUFFIE WR PENN STATE
1992 7(7) TROY VINCENT DB WISCONSIN
1992 12(12) MARCO COLEMAN LB GEORGIA TECH
1991 23(23) RANDAL HILL WR MIAMI (FLA.)

FinsNCanes
03-21-2007, 11:01 PM
What exactly is wrong with Ronnie? I personally think Allen will be pretty good once he get's to start full time.

LAMiamifan
03-21-2007, 11:03 PM
There's nothing wrong with Ronnie... I'm just not blown away yet and a #2 overall needs to blow you away. Dont get me wrong... TONS of time left for the kid, but I'd like to see more. And I know Allen deserves his shot, but cmon... everyone expected a lot more from him on draft day. Plenty of time though... I'm not saying all picks stink, but overall its pretty ugly

BLITZKRIEG
03-21-2007, 11:04 PM
It's been hit and miss for years now. That WR Y. Green pick was a major bummer, I thought he would be great....

PHINZ RULE!!!!

VT Dolphan
03-21-2007, 11:06 PM
What is the deal with our horrible first round picks??? I get that we had a lot of late picks but this list is really pretty pathetic. Avery was such an obvious bad pick.... same with Fletcher. We really needed him when Pat and Sam were both playing at probowl levels. Milner?? Yatil was just bad luck, but Hill was a bust. Word's still out on Allen and Carey but they both haven't impressed me too much. Gardener was a stud but major injuries. And McDuffie.. great possession wr but the hands were questionable and not first round talent. If you throw in Ricky for the 2002 and 2003 picks it's even worse. And I love Ronnie, but you're kidding yourself if you wouldnt rather have Peterson... Ronnie needs to prove a lot more for the money he's getting. Marco, Timbo and Vincent all had their day in the sun, but 16 years and thats it??? No more busts... i dont want a big Dlineman, but it seems like that's what this draft has to offer safely and its better than Ginn (who i kinda wanted) turning out to be another Troy Williamson or getting the best of a bad crop of Olineman. CB's are soft in this class and we dont want to use it on a Safety. QB's arent gonna drop. UGH... i dont mean to be a whiner but how about a bigtime first rounder for once!! I'm starting to think for the longterm our guy is probably Okoye. He's got a lot to learn but his potential is endless considering his age and skills. Or Branch if he falls??

Miami 1st round picks since 1990
YEAR PK(OVR) NAME POS SCHOOL
2006 16(16) JASON ALLEN DS TENNESSEE
2005 2(2) RONNIE BROWN RB AUBURN
2004 19(19) VERNON CAREY OG MIAMI (FLA.)
2001 26(26) JAMAR FLETCHER CB WISCONSIN
1998 29(29) JOHN AVERY RB MISSISSIPPI
1997 15(15) YATIL GREEN WR MIAMI (FLA.)
1996 20(20) DARYL GARDENER DT BAYLOR
1995 25(25) BILLY MILNER OT HOUSTON
1994 20(20) TIM BOWENS DT MISSISSIPPI
1993 25(25) O.J. MCDUFFIE WR PENN STATE
1992 7(7) TROY VINCENT DB WISCONSIN
1992 12(12) MARCO COLEMAN LB GEORGIA TECH
1991 23(23) RANDAL HILL WR MIAMI (FLA.)

So who exactly do you want us to take. You say "no big d-lineman" but seem to push for Alan Branch, who is exactly that. Okoye isn't a great fit for the 3-4 either so I don't think he would be a great pick.

jwong
03-21-2007, 11:07 PM
And McDuffie.. great possession wr but the hands were questionable

I stopped reading when i got to here

wazzy
03-21-2007, 11:08 PM
1994 20(20) TIM BOWENS DT MISSISSIPPI
1993 25(25) O.J. MCDUFFIE WR PENN STATE
1992 7(7) TROY VINCENT DB WISCONSIN

All solid first round picks!

Also Carey is finally turning the edge and is looking alright!

Jason allen needs to get his chance and Ronnie Brown will prove hes a top ten runner this year!

Sean
03-21-2007, 11:08 PM
Gotta love the Avery one LOL

Regan21286
03-21-2007, 11:31 PM
What's wrong with Carey and Brown? Brown's put up a 1000+ yards already though as to whether he was worth the #2, the jury's still out. But Carey's been our most dominant OL and has really solidified his spot as RT. And Gardener, Bowens, Vincent, and McDuffie have been more than solid.

JT Sack Attack
03-21-2007, 11:31 PM
What exactly is wrong with Ronnie? I personally think Allen will be pretty good once he get's to start full time.
100% with you and O.J was great it doesent always matter

JT Sack Attack
03-21-2007, 11:33 PM
should have posted in 2005 when it made more sence now a nineth when in 2005 it was a secened

Clumpy
03-21-2007, 11:43 PM
I like the trend :foundout:

Finascious D
03-21-2007, 11:48 PM
I cannot sit idly by and play privy to such poppycock and tomfoolery. How is Ronnie Brown not something special? Was a deuce pick spent on him all for naught? You say yes, yes, a thousand times yes. How can that be an answer to such a query? Is it because he completes his tasks sans a cape and superhuman strength? Maybe its because on his way to scrimmage he did not save a newborn from the clutches of a mildly rapid canine. Did he not favor your indulgence of a net gross of yards per quarter? It is true, I'll grant you, he has not single-handedly won the American Triumverate of Sport, by guiding his team to titles of the NFL, NBA & MLB ilk. However, he does indeed play the game fairly well, though he cannot manage to traverse the field for a hundred yards and a triumphant score every time his hands touch the ball, or rock, as I've heard it called.

I say...alas, after dissecting the facts, I was wrong to be so aghast at your deduction. Please forgive my spite for not only should young Ronnie Brown be heretofor labeled with a scarlet BUST, be he should bannished from the team and pelted with rotting swine milk, all while, we, hope against hope that our esteemed Team Management leader, delivers our savior Adrian Peterson, on the soon to be faithful, draft day, to our humble and undeserving clutches.

Phanatical
03-21-2007, 11:51 PM
2005 2(2) RONNIE BROWN RB AUBURN
2004 19(19) VERNON CAREY OG MIAMI (FLA.)
1996 20(20) DARYL GARDENER DT BAYLOR
1994 20(20) TIM BOWENS DT MISSISSIPPI
1993 25(25) O.J. MCDUFFIE WR PENN STATE
1992 7(7) TROY VINCENT DB WISCONSIN

All of those picks were really good and productive picks.

VanDolPhan
03-21-2007, 11:58 PM
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LAMiamifan
03-22-2007, 12:30 AM
2005 2(2) RONNIE BROWN RB AUBURN
2004 19(19) VERNON CAREY OG MIAMI (FLA.)
1996 20(20) DARYL GARDENER DT BAYLOR
1994 20(20) TIM BOWENS DT MISSISSIPPI
1993 25(25) O.J. MCDUFFIE WR PENN STATE
1992 7(7) TROY VINCENT DB WISCONSIN

All of those picks were really good and productive picks.

Fine, but 6 good first round pix in 16 years is HORRIBLE! And Carey is TBD... last year this time everyone thought he was a bust, couldnt play LT, etc... im not saying he wont come thru. I pray he does, but Ronnie and Carey are still up in the air. Oh and just b/c he put up 1000 yards, doesnt make him ELITE. Yeah, i hope he will be, but i was disappointed w/last year

uga3406
03-22-2007, 12:54 AM
What is the deal with our horrible first round picks??? I get that we had a lot of late picks but this list is really pretty pathetic. Avery was such an obvious bad pick.... same with Fletcher. We really needed him when Pat and Sam were both playing at probowl levels. Milner?? Yatil was just bad luck, but Hill was a bust. Word's still out on Allen and Carey but they both haven't impressed me too much. Gardener was a stud but major injuries. And McDuffie.. great possession wr but the hands were questionable and not first round talent. If you throw in Ricky for the 2002 and 2003 picks it's even worse. And I love Ronnie, but you're kidding yourself if you wouldnt rather have Peterson... Ronnie needs to prove a lot more for the money he's getting. Marco, Timbo and Vincent all had their day in the sun, but 16 years and thats it??? No more busts... i dont want a big Dlineman, but it seems like that's what this draft has to offer safely and its better than Ginn (who i kinda wanted) turning out to be another Troy Williamson or getting the best of a bad crop of Olineman. CB's are soft in this class and we dont want to use it on a Safety. QB's arent gonna drop. UGH... i dont mean to be a whiner but how about a bigtime first rounder for once!! I'm starting to think for the longterm our guy is probably Okoye. He's got a lot to learn but his potential is endless considering his age and skills. Or Branch if he falls??

Miami 1st round picks since 1990
YEAR PK(OVR) NAME POS SCHOOL
2006 16(16) JASON ALLEN DS TENNESSEE
2005 2(2) RONNIE BROWN RB AUBURN
2004 19(19) VERNON CAREY OG MIAMI (FLA.)
2001 26(26) JAMAR FLETCHER CB WISCONSIN
1998 29(29) JOHN AVERY RB MISSISSIPPI
1997 15(15) YATIL GREEN WR MIAMI (FLA.)
1996 20(20) DARYL GARDENER DT BAYLOR
1995 25(25) BILLY MILNER OT HOUSTON
1994 20(20) TIM BOWENS DT MISSISSIPPI
1993 25(25) O.J. MCDUFFIE WR PENN STATE
1992 7(7) TROY VINCENT DB WISCONSIN
1992 12(12) MARCO COLEMAN LB GEORGIA TECH
1991 23(23) RANDAL HILL WR MIAMI (FLA.)

brown is going to be a star...i hate all the doubters in here they say otherwise, i cant wait in 2-3 years when this guy is considered 1 of the best 3 backs in the game...i personally like carey and see improvement frm him every year...95-2001 were bad picks i agree but oj,bowens and vincent and marco all had good careers...oj was the man on 3rd down..every team knew dan was throwing to him and still he got open and he had great hands..he didnt drop as much as chambers, thats for sure...to bad troy didnt stay long..oh well..bowens was a monster and in his young,heathly days 2 blockers still couldnt block him...have faith this year i really got a good feeling about this years 1st...