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Phanatical
03-22-2007, 09:50 PM
With the signing of Hakim and Liwienski, and the loss of the Denver pick, it was necessary to re-evaluate the draft picks. Despite signing Hakim, I still love Higgins in round but I've dropped the OG in round 2. So here it is, my updated realistic mock draft. It isn't sexy, but fills a lot of needs with talented players. Without further ado, here is my updated REALISTIC mock draft:

9. (1st) Levi Brown (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/levibrown.html), OT, Penn State (Unless Quinn's available)
40. (2A) Ikaika Alama-Francis (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/ikaikaalamafrancis.html), DE, Hawaii Projected at 47
60. (2B) Josh Wilson (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/joshwilson.html), CB, Maryland Projected at 67
71. (3rd) Johnnie Lee Higgins (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/johnnieleehiggins.html), WR, UTEP Projected at 73
104. (4th) Troy Smith (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/troysmith.html), QB, Ohio State Projected at 106
166. (6th) Allen Barbre (http://www.mssu.edu/athletics/football/releases/06FB108.htm), OT, Missouri Southern Projected at 184 (third best LT in the draft IMO)
201. (7A) Jessie Daniels (http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27812&SPID=2164&DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=174955&Q_SEASON=2006), SS, LSU Projected at 204
210. (7B) Antwan Applewhite (http://goaztecs.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/applewhite_antwan00.html), DE, San Diego St. Projected at 218


There you go, rip away. :evil: Once you are done ripping, please, show me YOUR seven round mock that doesn't reach UP for every player and that will get us a QB, fix the OL, and give us depth at DE and CB.

daniel3
03-22-2007, 10:09 PM
Thats only realistic because every pick is a reach.

TotoreMexico
03-22-2007, 10:14 PM
Thats only realistic because every pick is a reach.

:sidelol:

Phanatical
03-22-2007, 10:18 PM
Thats only realistic because every pick is a reach.

Yeah, compared to other mocks that have us taking four first round picks in the first four rounds, go back to your madden now.

AZStryker
03-22-2007, 10:21 PM
With the signing of Hakim and Liwienski, and the loss of the Denver pick, it was necessary to re-evaluate the draft picks. As much as I loved Higgins with the third pick, we now have one draft pick and one less hole to fill, so I went with Josh Wilson instead. So here it is, my updated realistic mock draft. It isn't sexy, but fills a lot of needs with talented players. Yeah, I already know, Staley is a "reach" at 9, but the guy has jumped from 41 on many boards to 21 on Kiper's top 25. Without further ado, here is my updated REALISTIC mock draft:

9. (1st) Joe Staley (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/joestaley.html), OT, Central Michigan Projected at 21 (If Quinn and Brown are gone)
40. (2nd) Ikaika Alama-Francis (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/ikaikaalamafrancis.html), DE, Hawaii Projected at 47
61. (2nd) Josh Wilson (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/joshwilson.html), CB, Maryland Projected at 67
71. (3rd) Trent Edwards (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/trentedwards.html), QB, Stanford Projected way too low at 100
104. (4th) Baraka Atkins (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/barakaatkins.html), DE, Miami (FL) Projected at 110
166. (6th) Allen Barbre (http://www.mssu.edu/athletics/football/releases/06FB108.htm), OT, Missouri Southern Projected at 184 (second best OT in the draft IMO)
201. (7th) Antwan Applewhite (http://goaztecs.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/applewhite_antwan00.html), DE, San Diego St. Projected at 218
210. (7th) Mark Fenton (http://www.cubuffs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3845&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&ATCLID=23000&Q_SEASON=2006), C, Colorado Projected at 221

There you go, rip away. :evil:

No way we draft Staley at number 9. No way. It's Quinn or Brown.

Phanatical
03-22-2007, 10:22 PM
No way we draft Staley at number 9. No way. It's Quinn or Brown.

If they are still on the board, of course.

VT Dolphan
03-22-2007, 10:27 PM
If they are still on the board, of course.

I just don't see Staley going top ten no matter what happens. Personally, I think Levi Brown would be a minor reach at nine, so Staley would be giant reach. I think he is a good player and would like to see us trade down and get him, but nine is way too high for him.

As for the other picks, I know you are being more realistic than almost any other mock I've seen, but most of those picks are slight reaches. Some good prospects should slide to us in the second round, happens every year.

Phanatical
03-22-2007, 10:31 PM
I just don't see Staley going top ten no matter what happens. Personally, I think Levi Brown would be a minor reach at nine, so Staley would be giant reach. I think he is a good player and would like to see us trade down and get him, but nine is way too high for him.

As for the other picks, I know you are being more realistic than almost any other mock I've seen, but most of those picks are slight reaches. Some good prospects should slide to us in the second round, happens every year.

Yes, I agree 100%, and if I were drafting I wouldn't lock myself into this projected draft and would naturally look for those guys that fall. This is realistic if everyone falls where they are supposed to. I have yet to see a mock for all 7 rounds where half the picks aren't reaching UP for guys that have no chance of falling to that round.

rob19
03-22-2007, 10:35 PM
:lol: @ Joe Staley at 9

Frayser
03-22-2007, 10:39 PM
I knew nothing about Alama-Francis. He looks like an interesting prospect. I kinda think we would be better off looking for a DE/OLB tweener (Spencer, Moses, Woodley) rather than a DE/DT tweener. If we want/need a guy like Alama-Francis, why wouldn't we look at Jamaal Anderson in the 1st? I think he would be better value at #9 than Staley, and then we could look offensive line in the 2nd.

Still like the Atkins pick in the 4th though. I will be very happy with that one if we are able to grab him.

Phanatical
03-22-2007, 10:47 PM
I knew nothing about Alama-Francis. He looks like an interesting prospect. I kinda think we would be better off looking for a DE/OLB tweener (Spencer, Moses, Woodley) rather than a DE/DT tweener. If we want/need a guy like Alama-Francis, why wouldn't we look at Jamaal Anderson in the 1st? I think he would be better value at #9 than Staley, and then we could look offensive line in the 2nd.

Still like the Atkins pick in the 4th though. I will be very happy with that one if we are able to grab him.

I love that idea, the problem is that there seems to be a big gap between the OT selections available for the first round (Thomas, Brown and Staley) and the OT selections available in the second and third round (Ugoh, Yanda, Free, Marten, and Harris). I don't think there is that drop off with the DE position and I like the fact that Alama-Francis can drop into coverage and has speed on the outside, I think he would fit well with our defense. If it were up to me I would trade down in the first round and select the first round OT later plus pickup another draft pick.

Nappy Roots
03-22-2007, 10:51 PM
With the signing of Hakim and Liwienski, and the loss of the Denver pick, it was necessary to re-evaluate the draft picks. As much as I loved Higgins with the third pick, we now have one draft pick and one less hole to fill, so I went with Josh Wilson instead. So here it is, my updated realistic mock draft. It isn't sexy, but fills a lot of needs with talented players. Yeah, I already know, Staley is a "reach" at 9, but the guy has jumped from 41 on many boards to 21 on Kiper's top 25. Without further ado, here is my updated REALISTIC mock draft:

9. (1st) Joe Staley (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/joestaley.html), OT, Central Michigan Projected at 21 (If Quinn and Brown are gone)
40. (2nd) Ikaika Alama-Francis (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/ikaikaalamafrancis.html), DE, Hawaii Projected at 47
61. (2nd) Josh Wilson (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/joshwilson.html), CB, Maryland Projected at 67
71. (3rd) Trent Edwards (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/trentedwards.html), QB, Stanford Projected way too low at 100
104. (4th) Baraka Atkins (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/barakaatkins.html), DE, Miami (FL) Projected at 110
166. (6th) Allen Barbre (http://www.mssu.edu/athletics/football/releases/06FB108.htm), OT, Missouri Southern Projected at 184 (second best OT in the draft IMO)
201. (7th) Antwan Applewhite (http://goaztecs.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/applewhite_antwan00.html), DE, San Diego St. Projected at 218
210. (7th) Mark Fenton (http://www.cubuffs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3845&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&ATCLID=23000&Q_SEASON=2006), C, Colorado Projected at 221

There you go, rip away. :evil:


wow. unbelievable. you drafted each guy a round to early. and drafted everyone off potential. because non of these guys have shown to be anything great or some of them even good in college. most of those guys have talent though. but if you draft off that alone, which is exactly what you did. your going to have a draft full of busts for the most part.

phinsfan1221
03-22-2007, 10:52 PM
are you related to joe staley? phanatical

Phanatical
03-22-2007, 11:00 PM
wow. unbelievable. you drafted each guy a round to early. and drafted everyone off potential. because non of these guys have shown to be anything great or some of them even good in college. most of those guys have talent though. but if you draft off that alone, which is exactly what you did. your going to have a draft full of busts for the most part.

Actually NO, I didn't draft them a round too early. If you drop any of these picks to the next round they will be gone for sure. You need to go back to madden too.

1. Staley projected first round
2A. Francis projected second round
2B. Wilson projected late second early third round
3. Edwards projected late third early fourth round but will go much sooner
4. Atkins projected late third early fourth
6A. Barbre projected late fifth early sixth
7A. Applewhite projected late fifth early sixth
7B. Fenton projected late sixth early seventh.

Phanatical
03-22-2007, 11:03 PM
are you related to joe staley? phanatical

Ha ha. Nope, I just think he is going to be a great LT and if Thomas and Brown are gone a great LT is worth a first round pick. I'm tired of seeing our QB's blindsided and stripped of the ball.

phinsfan1221
03-22-2007, 11:07 PM
sorry not at #9 we would become the laughing stock of the NFL

Phanatical
03-22-2007, 11:09 PM
sorry not at #9 we would become the laughing stock of the NFL

Unless he turned out to be a great LT, which I think he will.

It's really unbelievable, half the picks in the draft become busts but people think just because Staley is rated a late first round that picking him in the early first round is a "reach" and would make us a laughing stock.

I have news for you all, if any player in the first round turns out to be a first round type player they are a good pick whether they were picked at 9 or 29. First round is first round.

Nappy Roots
03-22-2007, 11:12 PM
Actually NO, I didn't draft them a round too early. If you drop any of these picks to the next round they will be gone for sure. You need to go back to madden too.

1. Staley projected first round
2A. Francis projected second round
2B. Wilson projected late second early third round
3. Edwards projected late third early fourth round but will go much sooner
4. Atkins projected late third early fourth
6A. Barbre projected late fifth early sixth
7A. Applewhite projected late fifth early sixth
7B. Fenton projected late sixth early seventh.


lmao. OK. ill go back to madden, while you go ahead and ruin this franchise Mueller.

RalphX19X
03-22-2007, 11:12 PM
I like the Applewhite pick but to get Staley in the fist we would have to trade down because he's a major reacxh at 9.

Phanatical
03-22-2007, 11:15 PM
I like the Applewhite pick but to get Staley in the fist we would have to trade down because he's a major reacxh at 9.

I give up.

trate121hb
03-22-2007, 11:16 PM
Actually NO, I didn't draft them a round too early. If you drop any of these picks to the next round they will be gone for sure. You need to go back to madden too.

1. Staley projected first round
2A. Francis projected second round
2B. Wilson projected late second early third round
3. Edwards projected late third early fourth round but will go much sooner
4. Atkins projected late third early fourth
6A. Barbre projected late fifth early sixth
7A. Applewhite projected late fifth early sixth
7B. Fenton projected late sixth early seventh.

this is a joke of a mock draft.....might as well trade away all our picks if this is what we have in mind

VT Dolphan
03-22-2007, 11:30 PM
I give up.

Ha, just give the people what they want. If they want to believe players will still be on the board well after they will get drafted let them.

Here you go:
1)Landry
2)Kalil
2)Ugoh
3)Stanton
4)Higgins

Sorry people, but if you are expecting this to happen, keep dreaming.

phinsfan1221
03-22-2007, 11:31 PM
:sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol: :sidelol:
this is a joke of a mock draft.....might as well trade away all our picks if this is what we have in mind

Fresh
03-23-2007, 01:06 AM
I stopped reading after the first pick. No offense, but what a joke. I like Joe Staley, but he is by no means a top ten guy. You can trade down into the 20's and he'll still be sitting by his phone, possibly without receiving ANY phone calls the entire day.

Also, LOL @ people thinking that Hakim has an effect on the WR position.

He changes absolutely nothing........

Paul 13
03-23-2007, 01:11 AM
1. Greg Olsen, TE (Miami)
2A. Justin Blalock, G (Texas)
2B. Steve Smith, WR (USC)
3. Doug Free, T (N. Illinois)
4. Courtney Brown, CB (Cal Poly)
6A. Dan Santucci, G (Notre Dame)
7A. Oscar Lua, ILB (USC)

I'll leave the 2nd 7th rounder off as we'll probably lose that in the Trent Green trade. Also, note we won't be taking a qb if we pick up Green.

Phanatical
03-23-2007, 02:55 AM
Update to update:

9. (1st) Levi Brown (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/levibrown.html), OT, Penn State Projected at 6
40. (2A) Ikaika Alama-Francis (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/ikaikaalamafrancis.html), DE, Hawaii Projected at 47
60. (2B) Josh Wilson (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/joshwilson.html), CB, Maryland Projected at 67
71. (3rd) Johnnie Lee Higgins (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/johnnieleehiggins.html), WR, UTEP Projected at 73
104. (4th) Troy Smith (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/troysmith.html), QB, Ohio State Projected at 106
166. (6th) Allen Barbre (http://www.mssu.edu/athletics/football/releases/06FB108.htm), OT, Missouri Southern Projected at 184
201. (7A) Jessie Daniels (http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27812&SPID=2164&DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=174955&Q_SEASON=2006), SS, LSU Projected at 204
210. (7B) Antwan Applewhite (http://goaztecs.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/applewhite_antwan00.html), DE, San Diego St. Projected at 218
F/A Mark Fenton (http://www.cubuffs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3845&SPID=255&DB_OEM_ID=600&ATCLID=23000&Q_SEASON=2006), C, Colorado Projected at 221
F/A Gabe Hall (http://texastech.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hall_gabe00.html), OT, Texas Tech Projected at 256
F/A Leron McClain (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/fb/leronmcclain.html), FB, Alabama Projected at 277

Elliott 1
03-23-2007, 05:22 AM
:lol: @ Joe Staley at 9

I think we should trade Chambers and Hill to KC for their 1st rounder and draft Meachem with that pick.

Trade down from the 9th but if we can't take Petersen and trade Ricky.Use the pick to draft a S like Piscetelli,Rouse, or Wendling.

Take a Tackle with the 40 and a gaurd with the 60 and Samson Satele or Datish with our 3rd rounder.

Use our fourth and another player to trade into the top of the 2nd round and get a CB or the S Michael Griffin.

oronde86
03-23-2007, 05:46 AM
With the signing of Hakim and Liwienski, and the loss of the Denver pick, it was necessary to re-evaluate the draft picks. Despite signing Hakim, I still love Higgins in round but I've dropped the OG in round 2. So here it is, my updated realistic mock draft. It isn't sexy, but fills a lot of needs with talented players. Without further ado, here is my updated REALISTIC mock draft:

9. (1st) Levi Brown (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/levibrown.html), OT, Penn State (Unless Quinn's available)
40. (2A) Ikaika Alama-Francis (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/ikaikaalamafrancis.html), DE, Hawaii Projected at 47
60. (2B) Josh Wilson (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/joshwilson.html), CB, Maryland Projected at 67
71. (3rd) Johnnie Lee Higgins (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/johnnieleehiggins.html), WR, UTEP Projected at 73
104. (4th) Troy Smith (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/troysmith.html), QB, Ohio State Projected at 106
166. (6th) Allen Barbre (http://www.mssu.edu/athletics/football/releases/06FB108.htm), OT, Missouri Southern Projected at 184 (third best LT in the draft IMO)
201. (7A) Jessie Daniels (http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27812&SPID=2164&DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=174955&Q_SEASON=2006), SS, LSU Projected at 204
210. (7B) Antwan Applewhite (http://goaztecs.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/applewhite_antwan00.html), DE, San Diego St. Projected at 218


There you go, rip away. :evil: Once you are done ripping, please, show me YOUR seven round mock that doesn't reach UP for every player and that will get us a QB, fix the OL, and give us depth at DE and CB.

I don't like the Alama-Francis pick cause we can pick someone better like Crowder or a DT like Harrel or Mc Bride, would be fantastic Barbre in the 6th

Nappy Roots
03-23-2007, 10:23 AM
Update to update:

9. (1st) Levi Brown (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/levibrown.html), OT, Penn State Projected at 6




theres your problem right there. you think other people are reaching for some picks because your looking at 1 mock having a guy go at 6, then saying hes projected at 6. lmfao!

doesnt work like that.

**** the very web site you have linked in your post has him going 10! so why is he not projected at 10? lol

Motion
03-23-2007, 10:42 AM
With the signing of Hakim and Liwienski, and the loss of the Denver pick, it was necessary to re-evaluate the draft picks. Despite signing Hakim, I still love Higgins in round but I've dropped the OG in round 2. So here it is, my updated realistic mock draft. It isn't sexy, but fills a lot of needs with talented players. Without further ado, here is my updated REALISTIC mock draft:

9. (1st) Levi Brown (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/levibrown.html), OT, Penn State (Unless Quinn's available)
40. (2A) Ikaika Alama-Francis (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/de/ikaikaalamafrancis.html), DE, Hawaii Projected at 47
60. (2B) Josh Wilson (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/joshwilson.html), CB, Maryland Projected at 67
71. (3rd) Johnnie Lee Higgins (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/johnnieleehiggins.html), WR, UTEP Projected at 73
104. (4th) Troy Smith (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/troysmith.html), QB, Ohio State Projected at 106
166. (6th) Allen Barbre (http://www.mssu.edu/athletics/football/releases/06FB108.htm), OT, Missouri Southern Projected at 184 (third best LT in the draft IMO)
201. (7A) Jessie Daniels (http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=27812&SPID=2164&DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=174955&Q_SEASON=2006), SS, LSU Projected at 204
210. (7B) Antwan Applewhite (http://goaztecs.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/applewhite_antwan00.html), DE, San Diego St. Projected at 218


There you go, rip away. :evil: Once you are done ripping, please, show me YOUR seven round mock that doesn't reach UP for every player and that will get us a QB, fix the OL, and give us depth at DE and CB.

Where are you getting your projections from?