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dougfinsfan72
03-24-2007, 12:34 PM
Houston QB Kolb and RB Battle PRO-DAY review. Dolphins interviewed QB Kolb!!

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March 24, 2007, 10:00AM
Battle, Kolb impress NFL scouts at UH workout
Running back's stock improves with good showing

By JOHN McCLAIN
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle

NFL scouts went to the Yeoman Field House for the University of Houston's pro day on Friday to see highly touted quarterback Kevin Kolb, but they left talking about underrated running back Jackie Battle.

Kolb, who's expected to be a second-round pick in next month's draft, put on a good show, but Battle brought down the house.
"That was one of the greatest workouts I've ever seen," said Tennessee's coordinator of college scouting C.O. Brocato.
Battle is 6-2, 238. Brocato timed him in the 40-yard dash in 4.44 and 4.43.
"Some had him in the 4.3s," Brocato said. "He put on a fantastic show. He made himself a lot of money. He went from a player going to be drafted in the fifth through seventh rounds to a first-day pick. It was just a fabulous workout." Battle showed outstanding size and incredible speed. He excelled in every drill. He caught the ball extremely well. "I mean, that kid's stock shot way up," Brocato said. "If he'd been able to do that at the combine where every coach and general manager was, he'd be a first-round pick. He showed us everything we wanted to see today."

Kolb was the only Cougar invited to attend the Indianapolis scouting combine. Battle and receiver Vincent Marshall, who also had a terrific performance Friday, weren't invited. "I wish I would have been invited to the combine," Battle said, "but I wasn't, so I focused all my energy on our pro day. I knew what I'm capable of doing. I've just been waiting for a chance to show it. "I'm very happy with what I did. I don't know where I'll be drafted or how much it'll be worth, but I'm real excited about today. I was very confident coming in, and I'm very confident going out. Now we'll have to wait and see what happens."

Kolb, who participated in the Senior Bowl and worked out at the combine, had his workout Friday orchestrated by Jerry Rhome. Rhome has been tutoring Kolb and preparing him for the draft. "On a scale of one to 10, I'd give Kevin a nine," Rhome said. "When he missed a throw, he came back even stronger. "I really like this kid. He's worked very hard to get to this point. I'm excited to see where he's going to be drafted."

Kolb and his teammates worked out in front of representatives of every team as well as family members, friends, media and a lot of fans. "It was just like a game in that I came out a little juiced up, I was a little off with some of my throws early, but then I got into a rhythm and made the throws I needed to," Kolb said. "I'm very happy with what I did today. I wanted to show my arm strength. I wanted to take something off my throws. I was happy with my touch. I wasn't perfect, of course, but overall, I'm really happy. "And I'm really happy with what my guys did, too. This was an opportunity for us to showcase what we could do — why we were conference champions. I want to thank coach (Art) Briles and my teammates for helping me get to this point. I'm very grateful. I couldn't have done it without them."

The scouts weren't happy that Kolb missed the weigh-in because he was having breakfast with a Dolphins coach. New England and Cleveland also have shown interest in Kolb, who has visits the first week of April lined up with Baltimore and Philadelphia.

"I haven't changed my opinion of him; I think he's going in the second round," Brocato said. "He threw the ball well today, but I thought he was up and down on his accuracy when he rolled out. He really threw the deep ball well."
john.mcclain@chron.com (john.mcclain@chron.com)

banzaitrey
03-24-2007, 12:39 PM
Man 6'2 238 and runnin low 4.4's...Thats very impressive

GCD960
03-24-2007, 12:42 PM
The scouts weren't happy that Kolb missed the weigh-in because he was having breakfast with a Dolphins coach.

fishypete
03-24-2007, 12:43 PM
Very Interesting

Geforce
03-24-2007, 01:07 PM
They ran indoors on AstroTurf

Jackie Battle, RB
6'2" 238 ran his 40s in 4.42 & 4.43 with a 41" vertical and 10'11" long jump. Ran the 20-yard short shuttle in 4.11 and the long shuttle in 6.51. Did 19 bench press reps.

Vincent Marshall, WR/KR
5'7" 168 ran his 40s in 4.36 and 4.38 with a 36" vertical and 10' long jump. Ran the 20-yard short shuttle in 4.14 and the long shuttle in 6.77. Did 11 bench press reps

dougfinsfan72
03-24-2007, 01:07 PM
The scouts weren't happy that Kolb missed the weigh-in because he was having breakfast with a Dolphins coach.

From their huge interest in the bottom three of the top 5 QBs it appears that the Dolphins will not be picking a QB with the #9 pick, but instead will be using their #40 or #60 to take a QB. That leaves LOT, Safety, WR, and CB as the most likely choice for the #9 pick!!!

Geforce
03-24-2007, 01:10 PM
The scouts weren't happy that Kolb missed the weigh-in because he was having breakfast with a Dolphins coach. New England and Cleveland also have shown interest in Kolb, who has visits the first week of April lined up with Baltimore and Philadelphia.

Hmm, this could be interesting.

Geforce
03-24-2007, 01:13 PM
From their huge interest in the bottom three of the top 5 QBs it appears that the Dolphins will not be picking a QB with the #9 pick, but instead will be using their #40 or #60 to take a QB. That leaves LOT, Safety, WR, and CB as the most likely choice for the #9 pick!!!

I wouldn't read too much into this. If they are not able to draft Quinn, they still need to do their homework on everyone else in order to make an informed judgement when the time arises.

If we are not able to draft Quinn at #9, we might be able to draft Kolb at #40 or #60.

musphinzfan
03-24-2007, 01:15 PM
Hmm, this could be interesting.

Ya i said that myself when i read that bit of info.

I am also intrigued by the #'s battle put up.

dolfan91
03-24-2007, 04:01 PM
Kolb is a sleeper!!! i wouldn't be suprised if miami takes a chance on him in round 2 @ #60... he fits the Mueller moto... take at least one qb every draft... i like Kolb, alot of the draft info on him is positive... if this is true and miami is interested in Kolb.. it be nice to see miami trade down form the #9 spot if landry is taken at #8!!! mcshay of espn and sheffter of nfl network say it is a 7 man elite draft... leaving miami on the cusp of alot of 2nd tier, but solid prospects!!! I for one hope the find a trade down partner and are able to pick adam carriker from nebraska... joe staley, who miami has been rumored to be interested in, would be a none value pick, if taken in the top 15-18 picks.... BUT!!! if miami lands in the top 20-25 picks he could be just what the doctor ordered!!! i also like doug free from northern ill, he was coached by don shula in the east/west shrine game... he is a quality olineman, who played on a bump ankle in his senior year... he would be great value in the late 2nd round or early 3rd... lets hope for the best on draft day... mueller has a good rep in the early rounds...

Boone
03-24-2007, 05:14 PM
I'd love to have Kolb if we miss out on Quinn...

RoninFin4
03-24-2007, 05:21 PM
I wouldn't read too much into this. If they are not able to draft Quinn, they still need to do their homework on everyone else in order to make an informed judgement when the time arises.

If we are not able to draft Quinn at #9, we might be able to draft Kolb at #40 or #60.

Exactly. They're just doing their due dilligence on every prospect. But it does appear a first-day QB will be one of our selecitions.

twix2500
03-24-2007, 05:22 PM
Im not high on Kolb, the but Drew Stanton is starting to erase my doubts about his focus. Stanton IMO is the only other QB besides Quin and Russell with big time QB ability.

SR 7
03-24-2007, 05:35 PM
I'd love to have Kolb if we miss out on Quinn...


isn't kolb the guy taht they said at the Sr bwol taht has NO ARM FOR THE NFL? if not, who was taht man? I keep confsuing him with taht statement. Im pretty sure it was but if not, someone asnwer taht plz.

miamiron
03-24-2007, 06:12 PM
isn't kolb the guy taht they said at the Sr bwol taht has NO ARM FOR THE NFL? if not, who was taht man? I keep confsuing him with taht statement. Im pretty sure it was but if not, someone asnwer taht plz.

Taht is not a word
1 time a misspelling but 5 times a problem

utahphinsfan
03-24-2007, 07:33 PM
What about Love (the DT)? Did he participate?

Every game, I saw, it seemed he made a big play and always got penetration.

Not that the phins need him but w/ Manny & Rod you never know.

Geforce
03-24-2007, 09:35 PM
What about Love (the DT)? Did he participate?

Every game, I saw, it seemed he made a big play and always got penetration.

Not that the phins need him but w/ Manny & Rod you never know.

Marquay Love 6'3/8" 307 ran his 40s in 5.10 and 5.12. He had a 36" vertical and a 10' broad jump. Ran the 20-yard short shuttle in 4.58 and the 3-cone in 7.53. He did 28 reps on the bench press.

Boone
03-24-2007, 11:09 PM
Taht is not a word
1 time a misspelling but 5 times a problemI agree...some peoples grammar makes me wanna barf!

Regan21286
03-24-2007, 11:30 PM
Man 6'2 238 and runnin low 4.4's...Thats very impressive

Then he'd probably be better off as a WR. :lol:

TexanPhinatic
03-24-2007, 11:50 PM
If we miss out on Quinn/Stanton, I might take a chance on Kolb, but not sure if id go in teh second, that sounds just a little high. Hes kinda turning into a mini-Stanton with the hype popping up around him.

I really think that anyone writing off taking a QB high because we were meeting with this guy is just being a tad silly.

SR 7
03-25-2007, 05:45 AM
I agree...some peoples grammar makes me wanna barf!

its known as a stupid typo get over it. life goes on

D-bolt
03-25-2007, 11:29 AM
isn't kolb the guy taht they said at the Sr bwol taht has NO ARM FOR THE NFL? if not, who was taht man? I keep confsuing him with taht statement. Im pretty sure it was but if not, someone asnwer taht plz.

SR,
I beleive they were talking about Tyler Palko. I know they wanted to see Kolb's deep ball during the game, but that was negated by the nsaty weather during the senior bowl.

Geforce
03-25-2007, 12:17 PM
I received an e-mail from Mike Grough of Pro Combine Training yesterday describing Battle's Pro Day from start to finish.


It is a story that should motivate you and all athletes out there. Snubbed by NFL scouts for an NFL Combine invite, they said he was destined for FB, and that he ran a pedestrian 4.75 sec. 40 yard dash time.
Even after rushing for 981 yards this season, they gave him no respect. Oh how little did they know...

You see at 8:30 this am when his Pro Day started I knew what would transpire. It was cool to see it unfold under my own eyes... Here is the anatomy of a knockout Pro Day performance...

8:40 am Jackie weighs in at a 6'2' 238 lbs.

9:05 am Jumps 41' vertical

9:10 am Then unloads a 10'11' broad jump

9:15 am Bench presses 225 lbs. 19 times.

9:35 am Runs a first 40 yard dash of 4.41 sec. (to the astonishment of the 24 teams in attendance who thought he was a 4.75)

9:47 am Clocks a second 40 time ranging from 4.35 to 4.39 sec. on the scouts clock

10:03 am Clocks a three cone that ranged on the scouts watches from a 6.25 to a 6.46.

10:30 am Shows off his catching ability from QB Kevin Kolb

11:03 am Shines in positional drills lead by Bengals RB Coach Jim Anderson.

11:35 am Physically and Mentally exhausted performs media interviews.

So there you have it. Accoring to one longtime NFL Scout 'it was one of the most impressive Pro Day/Combine workouts I have ever seen' and I must agree. It was total domination.

That is a story that should motiavte all athletes. Always fight to prove who you are and what you do, use it to fuel you to success.

finfan54
03-25-2007, 08:46 PM
I think we are looking at all the QB's. If we want Stanton at 40 or maybe even 60, we could get him, Edwards is a 3rd rounder and JOhn Beck may be going up some peoples boards including ours as a third rounder. Kolb is probably going around 3-4th round but who knows what some team will do when it comes to QB. The Jets took a QB in the second round last year that made me seriously scratch my head.

alen1
03-25-2007, 09:05 PM
SR,
I beleive they were talking about Tyler Palko. I know they wanted to see Kolb's deep ball during the game, but that was negated by the nsaty weather during the senior bowl.

yea it was either palko or jordan palmer ...... i kno palmer was horrific, he is no where near his brother

zodiak
03-25-2007, 09:20 PM
I am someone who believes Miami has serious interest in Kolb and I also feel whatever you may have heard about Stanton and Miami is not real.

Kiolb is simply a better QB I know you dont wanna hear it but its true the only thing thats gonna hold Kolb back(in respect to draft pos.) is he will need a little time to develope.

He played in the same offense for 8years his HS head coach was also Houstons HC and ran a spread type offense.

Kolb shows better decesion making and more accuracy then Stanton, when you watch stanton on film he breaks down to often and doesnt seem to over come bad plays(yes his WR's had plenty of drops) to me in the end Stanton will be a starter in the NFL simuliar to a Rex Grossman with inconsistant play series to series where Kolb once he developes in a conventional pro offense will be someone close to a Chad Pennington(perhaps more physical tools) a strong leader with high QB ratings.

I dont see either QB at this point becoming an elite NFL QB but I feel Kolb will be the better of the two.

IRONDOOR84
03-27-2007, 11:48 PM
Here is a link to the Pro Day that Mike Gough is referring to....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CECS_WsOPU4

dougfinsfan72
03-28-2007, 03:06 AM
Looks like a slightly taller and faster version of Jerome Bettis!!

Might be worth a gamble with a first day pick, he seems to have a nose for the endzone (31TDS).

jim1
03-28-2007, 10:13 AM
Im not high on Kolb, the but Drew Stanton is starting to erase my doubts about his focus. Stanton IMO is the only other QB besides Quin and Russell with big time QB ability.

I'm not crazy about Stanton's arm. Not a quick delivery and so-so velocity and accuracy. He's still interesting, though. Kolb seems to have a very good arm. Trent Edwards has a good arm from what I hear, too, but I've only seen a few passes from his workout. Some people on this site seem to be pretty high on John Beck- I haven't seen the guy play, wish that I had.

jim1
03-28-2007, 10:21 AM
I think we are looking at all the QB's. If we want Stanton at 40 or maybe even 60, we could get him, Edwards is a 3rd rounder and JOhn Beck may be going up some peoples boards including ours as a third rounder. Kolb is probably going around 3-4th round but who knows what some team will do when it comes to QB. The Jets took a QB in the second round last year that made me seriously scratch my head.

Kellen Clemens was pretty darned good at Oregon. He was injured during the season and made a strong push upwards after his workouts if I recall correctly. He's probably the Jets QB of the future. They already traded that little guy from Nebraska (Vikings?) and Patrick Ramsey, so I would guess that those are two fairly strong votes of confidence from the Jets for Clemmens.

BLITZKRIEG
03-28-2007, 10:51 AM
Great read. Our draft is starting to look better and better from the Qb standpoint, and that's something I was worried about. At the very least, it sounds like there's another strong QB prospect out there besides Quinn / Russell / and Stanton....

That's great news for us in regards to drafting a young gun this year. Thanks for that, I feel much better now, and think either Stanton / Kolb would be a solid choice for us. Even better, now we can focus on LT with the #9 draft pick. Beyond our future Qb, we're desperate to build up that OL, and LT is a huge need this year in my opinion....


PHINZ RULE!!!!

dan the fin
03-28-2007, 10:57 AM
Kevin Kolb
QB, Houston

War Room analysis
Arm strength: Has a strong arm but didn't have many chances to show it in Houston's short-passing offense. Makes all the throws, and puts great zip on downfield passes. When rolling out, makes deep throws on a rope. Grade: 8.0

Accuracy/delivery: Is surprisingly accurate on short passes and intermediate-to-deep routes. When feet are set and strides into throws, puts passes of any length on the money. Grade: 8.0

Field vision: Sees the field on almost every play. When trying to find an open receiver on one side of the field, can come back and make a throw to a backside receiver without hesitation. Grade: 8.0

Running ability: Is a good athlete with experience as a runner, both to avoid the rush and to scramble out of the pocket. Often buys time and makes plays because of feet. Grade: 6.5

Intangibles: Carried Houston's offense, consistently showing the leadership and toughness to win games his team had no business winning. Has something special that causes teammates to rally around him and play at a higher level. Grade: 8.0

Bottom line: Kolb was a frustrating prospect for much of his college career before showing improved decision-making skills as a senior and drastically improving his NFL stock. Kolb must adjust to a more traditional pro-style offense, but he can become a great NFL starter who can make big plays with his cannon arm and nimble feet.


Here is another scouting report on Kolb for u guys, enjoy.

Danny
03-28-2007, 01:23 PM
Is not that Miami doesn't wanna take a QB at 9....there's just no way Quinn or Russell'll be there and the others are not worth taking at 9 so I think we'll go QB at either 40,60 or 71....as for 9 I still think that Ginn could be the pick if he can run before the draft...if not, we could be moving down and then who knows what player we'd take then.

Ozzy rules!!