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postermaster
03-25-2007, 08:21 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!

djavelin
03-25-2007, 08:25 PM
So we wont give are #9.We will have two firsts????

Mari0k
03-25-2007, 08:28 PM
Yha..im also confused.

postermaster
03-25-2007, 08:29 PM
So we wont give are #9.We will have two firsts????

Thats Absolutely right, we will have our own 9 and the 2nd overall pick, plus we will get some value for Mare (If he accepts to restructure his contract), we wont have a second though...


I think that those are GREAT news if they get done...

McMichaels81
03-25-2007, 08:29 PM
Calvin Johnson!!!

Phinatical
03-25-2007, 08:30 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!


So let me get this straight. We give both of our second round picks,Olindo Mare,,and allow Detroit to sign Trent Green and in return we will get their #1 pick this year,,so we end up picking #2 and #9 in the first round?

postermaster
03-25-2007, 08:31 PM
So let me get this straight. We give both of our second round picks,Olindo Mare,,and allow Detroit to sign Trent Green and in return we will get their #1 pick this year,,so we end up picking #2 and #9 in the first round?

Thats correct, but we also have to restructure Mare's contract

CANDolphan
03-25-2007, 08:31 PM
wait.. we'd give up our two second round picks and olindo mare for the #2 overall pick in the draft?

Thats ridiculous.. no way Detroit does it

SR 7
03-25-2007, 08:31 PM
wait, so Green goes to Detroit, miami keeps the 9th, we get the 2nd overall in round 1, give up mare and 2 2nds? IM ****ING DOWN!

tehn we can use our 9th to trade DOWN regain picks ala 2nd or late 1st and a 3rd, OR swap our 9th with Houst for there 10th and get Carr then we have Carr Quinn and DC in camp. If it istn for CJ, JT. cuz at 2 we go either WR cuz we have a hgue need adn we know CJ is a premier #1 guy alreayd and CC would be a GREEEEEAT compliment to him as a 2nd WR. or we get JT at LT or get QUINN/RUSSEL for QB probably QUINN.

zonk4ever
03-25-2007, 08:32 PM
No one wants to pay unproven rookies overpriced signing bonuses & salaries. it destroys your cap figures. How many times do you have to see the Patriots maneuver to realize that their way is the only way to go!!! They overpay for nobody. And now you want us to overpay 2 unproven rookies as if these 2 players will take us from 6 & 10 to 10 & 6. Regain your senses!!!

NJFINSFAN1
03-25-2007, 08:33 PM
Never happen!

Sean
03-25-2007, 08:35 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!


sorry to do this but LINK???

SR 7
03-25-2007, 08:36 PM
No one wants to pay unproven rookies overpriced signing bonuses & salaries. it destroys your cap figures. How many times do you have to see the Patriots maneuver to realize that their way is the only way to go!!! They overpay for nobody. And now you want us to overpay 2 unproven rookies as if these 2 players will take us from 6 & 10 to 10 & 6. Regain your senses!!!

put quinn, thomas, CJ with the 2nd, and etiehr Landry, Adams, Brown, or Ginn Jr with the other 9th and tahts enough to do something special if not this year but next year. look at bush n NO last year, imagine a ginn jr and a Quinn combo or a landry and a quinn. thats amazing.

btw, rem quinn has AMAZING passing ability in stride taht many say is unreal, put that passing in stride via slant to a Ginn jr and ur looking at 6 pts. booker wiht his slow arse scored 2 TD via Slatn last year one being against Detroit. imagine a Ginn jr in that play

KingCrowder
03-25-2007, 08:38 PM
Never happen!


:yeahthat:

postermaster
03-25-2007, 08:38 PM
Green wants deal with Dolphins (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-spdolphins24mar24,0,1707847.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front)

The agent for Trent Green said Friday that the quarterback wants to play for the Dolphins in 2007 and the only roadblock is an impasse in trade talks with the Kansas City Chiefs... A source said the Dolphins have interest in David Carr, who was released Friday by Houston shortly after Matt Schaub was acquired in a trade with Atlanta... Should Green or Carr be added, the Dolphins could part ways with quarterback Daunte Culpepper.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-spdolphins24mar24,0,1707847.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front





Report: Lions show interest in QB Green (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070325/SPORTS01/703250632/1049)

Millen will speak with the Chiefs about acquiring quarterback Trent Green, the Kansas City Star reported Saturday. But signs are mounting that the Chiefs will trade Green to Miami.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070325/SPORTS01/703250632/1049


Don't get surprised if suddenly this week Green signs with the Lions...

dominizzo
03-25-2007, 08:39 PM
No way In Hell

trainwreck
03-25-2007, 08:39 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!

So, Millen would give us the 2nd overall pick for the 9th and a late second?
If accurate that would be hard to believe......
I know Matt Millen can be bone-headed, but that would be...
Well, it would be on the Rick Speilman level of bone headed...:goof:

Sean
03-25-2007, 08:41 PM
So, Millen would give us the 2nd overall pick for the 9th and a late second?
If accurate that would be hard to believe......
I know Matt Millen can be bone-headed, but that would be...
Well, it would be on the Rick Speilman level of bone headed...:goof:

No, he's saying this

2 2nds and Mare for #2

trainwreck
03-25-2007, 08:42 PM
Thats Absolutely right, we will have our own 9 and the 2nd overall pick, plus we will get some value for Mare (If he accepts to restructure his contract), we wont have a second though...


I think that those are GREAT news if they get done...


No way someone would be that stupid......

djavelin
03-25-2007, 08:43 PM
But ATL will pick landry i believe since they traded up.I would love to see CJ,QB,...Then Landry.

I think Landry will be gone at #9.

Who is better out of Quinn,Russel.

I havent seen to much of them.But Quinn seems pro ready.

trainwreck
03-25-2007, 08:45 PM
No, he's saying this

2 2nds and Mare for #2

I appreciate you explaining that Sean...
But the NFL has a draft table for picks and the 2nd overall is worth a lot..
We were hoping to get a 6th or 7th rounder for Mare.
It would be nice.... But I think its wishful thinking....

Frayser
03-25-2007, 08:46 PM
This really sounds a bit crazy. Why on Earth would the Lions give up the 2nd for so little when they could arrange a trade down with other teams and probably get much more in return? I can't imagine Mare and some back room gentlemens' agreement over Green would be that important to them.

postermaster
03-25-2007, 08:46 PM
No, he's saying this

2 2nds and Mare for #2


Yes thats right, but my source told me that they are still in talks and no dela has been closed, he thinks that Detroit will ask something more or something different, but the Dolphins are unlikely to accept if Detroit asks for more...

He also thinks that Detroit wants to trade the 2nd overall because they haven't had great experiences drafting early in the first and thats why they wanted to trade down at the begginig...

MustangFinFan
03-25-2007, 08:46 PM
well, it IS Matt Millen. they ARE in need of a good kicker, a solid QB to compete with Kitna.

we could get Calvin Johnson at #2, and Brady Quinn at #9. BadaBOOM! Then in the 3rd and 4th we'd need to pickup some OL to block for them of course. id sooooo do it

PhinsRDbest
03-25-2007, 08:46 PM
So, Millen would give us the 2nd overall pick for the 9th and a late second?
If accurate that would be hard to believe......
I know Matt Millen can be bone-headed, but that would be...
Well, it would be on the Rick Speilman level of bone headed...:goof:
Quick Mueller get on the phone to Minnesota.

MassFinFan06
03-25-2007, 08:48 PM
Take the deal.......give up our 2nd rounds...take first rounds get Quin + a great lineman.....get Carr & we are on the right path!!:dolphins: :dolphins:

djavelin
03-25-2007, 08:48 PM
What about Landry ,Branch.

Or CJ,Olsen

Russell,Ginn

CJ,Quinn

postermaster
03-25-2007, 08:49 PM
This really sounds a bit crazy. Why on Earth would the Lions give up the 2nd for so little when they could arrange a trade down with other teams and probably get much more in return? I can't imagine Mare and some back room gentlemens' agreement over Green would be that important to them.

Plus 2 seconds (one early and one late), plus they have one very early second, so they would have 3 seconds + all what you said..., well, as I said, thats whats my source told me and those are just rumors...

alen1
03-25-2007, 08:52 PM
im sorry but i cant believe this unless thers some type of link, also that is freaken crazy for lions to do that .... thers no way in hell millen can be that dumb

showstopper
03-25-2007, 08:54 PM
The only way this could happen, is if Millen had Wanstedt advising him on draft maneouvering. This would be the biggest robbery of the decade, no one could be that dumb!!!
BUT, it is the LIONS!!!

finfan54
03-25-2007, 08:54 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!

I hate to be skeptical here, but you are 18 years old and from Mexico? cmon dude. You have a source?

You read about how detroit has been talking to teams and you came up with this.

postermaster
03-25-2007, 08:55 PM
im sorry but i cant believe this unless thers some type of link, also that is freaken crazy for lions to do that .... thers no way in hell millen can be that dumb

I don't have a link since it wasn't posted on the internet, it was my source telling me this..., I also think it would be a crazy move by the Lions, but eventhough if you analize the move, it sounds reasonable...

showstopper
03-25-2007, 08:56 PM
Does MILLEN drink GREY GOOSE?

Phinatical
03-25-2007, 08:59 PM
Headline: RANDY MUELLER GETS 15YRS. IN PRISON FOR RAPING DETROIT LIONS

trainwreck
03-25-2007, 08:59 PM
The only way this could happen, is if Millen had Wanstedt advising him on draft maneouvering. This would be the biggest robbery of the decade, no one could be that dumb!!!
BUT, it is the LIONS!!!

Rick and Dave gave up the 2nd pick in the 2nd round for
a THIRD STRING QB.....
That was the robbery of the decade thus far....

trainwreck
03-25-2007, 09:00 PM
Headline: RANDY MUELLER GETS 15YRS. IN PRISON FOR RAPING DETROIT LIONS

LMAO....:lol:

Paul 13
03-25-2007, 09:02 PM
I can't believe anyone would seriously take this as a believable story. EVEN IF the Phins threw in their first round pick along with both second round picks, they are another second round pick short of having an equal trade with the Lions for the #2 overall pick. Is it April 1st yet?

postermaster
03-25-2007, 09:02 PM
I hate to be skeptical here, but you are 18 years old and from Mexico? cmon dude. You have a source?

You read about how detroit has been talking to teams and you came up with this.

Hey, with all due respect, you can say whatever you want, but i wont accept you to call me a lier..., if I say something its because I know that I heard it and as I said my source is very trustable, thats right Im 18, Im from Mexico, but my oldest brother who is 31 has some power into the NFL here in Mexico, he is owner (in addition with my father) of a very strong brand here in Mexico and thats why he is the mexican counselor of the NFL..., he was one of the guys that brought the Arizona vs. San Francisco game to Mexico...

So, the next time you want to talk be a 100% sure that you know the facts and that you are not talking because you just like to talk

Rhody Phins Fan
03-25-2007, 09:09 PM
Hey, with all due respect, you can say whatever you want, but i wont accept you to call me a lier..., if I say something its because I know that I heard it and as I said my source is very trustable, thats right Im 18, Im from Mexico, but my oldest brother who is 31 has some power into the NFL here in Mexico, he is owner (in addition with my father) of a very strong brand here in Mexico and thats why he is the mexican counselor of the NFL..., he was one of the guys that brought the Arizona vs. San Francisco game to Mexico...

So, the next time you want to talk be a 100% sure that you know the facts and that you are not talking because you just like to talk

Can you just give us an idea of who your source is or what line of work they are and if its your brother how does he have this access to knowledge

VT Dolphan
03-25-2007, 09:10 PM
So ideally, we'd take Quinn with the second pick, trade down from nine to mid-late first and take someone like Ryan Kalil, Robert Meachem or Joe Staley. Hopefully trading down would allow us to regain one of those second rounders.

Who am I kidding, this will never happen, but never hurts to dream I guess.

zach8111
03-25-2007, 09:11 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!
i would like to know your source but i think we would have to give up our #9 pick too. but if not that would be awsome. we could get calvin johnson and at nine there will be a good shot at quinn being available. then our line could get guys from the third or we could take quinn/ johnson #2 and trade down #9 for second round and late first.

finfan54
03-25-2007, 09:13 PM
Hey, with all due respect, you can say whatever you want, but i wont accept you to call me a lier..., if I say something its because I know that I heard it and as I said my source is very trustable, thats right Im 18, Im from Mexico, but my oldest brother who is 31 has some power into the NFL here in Mexico, he is owner (in addition with my father) of a very strong brand here in Mexico and thats why he is the mexican counselor of the NFL..., he was one of the guys that brought the Arizona vs. San Francisco game to Mexico...

So, the next time you want to talk be a 100% sure that you know the facts and that you are not talking because you just like to talk

I am not calling you a liar. I would love to believe you in all honesty. You cannot expect people to just accept something like this blindly can you?
I dont know who you are.

retarmyfinfan
03-25-2007, 09:14 PM
I appreciate you explaining that Sean...
But the NFL has a draft table for picks and the 2nd overall is worth a lot..
We were hoping to get a 6th or 7th rounder for Mare.
It would be nice.... But I think its wishful thinking....

Not that I think this trade will go down, but the draft table does not have to be followed, it's just a comparable value indicator.

PhinsRDbest
03-25-2007, 09:14 PM
Millen would get the Rasputin treatment if this deal went down.

retarmyfinfan
03-25-2007, 09:15 PM
Headline: RANDY MUELLER GETS 15YRS. IN PRISON FOR RAPING DETROIT LIONS

LOL. That was funny.

Jaj
03-25-2007, 09:15 PM
Hey, with all due respect, you can say whatever you want, but i wont accept you to call me a lier..., if I say something its because I know that I heard it and as I said my source is very trustable, thats right Im 18, Im from Mexico, but my oldest brother who is 31 has some power into the NFL here in Mexico, he is owner (in addition with my father) of a very strong brand here in Mexico and thats why he is the mexican counselor of the NFL..., he was one of the guys that brought the Arizona vs. San Francisco game to Mexico...

So, the next time you want to talk be a 100% sure that you know the facts and that you are not talking because you just like to talk

Seriously stop acting defensive, because you have absolutely no idea how trades work in the NFL. Do you know the history of trade ups? I'm guessing no because here I'll do the math for you

Trade ups work off of the value chart almost to a T

The margin of favor a team trading up can receive works to 5%. The margin the trade down team can get is up to 25%.

So your essentially saying the Detroit Lions are going to receive less than one third of the original value of their pick! Unless Olindo Mare is worth a top 10 pick this is ridiculous and this shouldn't even be on the forums.

It would take our 1st, two 2nds, 3rd, and Olindo Mare to get to the Lion's pick. Either you misunderstood what your source said or your source is blowing smoke.

postermaster
03-25-2007, 09:16 PM
Can you just give us an idea of who your source is or what line of work they are and if its your brother how does he have this access to knowledge

My direct source is my brother, his source I think might be someone into the VIP officiating HQ of the Miami Dolphins, I don't know precisely, but I do know that he is very accurate, I knew that the Dolphins were taking Daunte over Brees like 2 weeks before they traded for him, I knew that Cameron has already accepted to be Miami's HC when "they were searching for HC", I knew that Porter was coming to Miami little after he was released the only time that he has mistaken was when he told me that Nick Saban was going to stay in Miami when Alabama offered him a job...

Jaj
03-25-2007, 09:18 PM
Here I'll do you a favor and you can put this in your profile so I'll own up to it. If the Dolphins trade the 40th and the 60th pick plus Olindo Mare for the Lion's 2nd I WILL NEVER EVER EVER post on this forum again. In fact if the moderators allow I will give you my VIP membership.

kashbo
03-25-2007, 09:19 PM
that would be so cool, joe thomas and levi jones superbowl here we come

Jaj
03-25-2007, 09:20 PM
Yep Levi Jones the Cinncinnati Bengals left tackle!

Dmarino110
03-25-2007, 09:20 PM
there is no way in hell a team with the 2nd over all gives it up for 2 2nd rounders and a kicker. Im calling shenanigans!!!

postermaster
03-25-2007, 09:22 PM
Seriously stop acting defensive, because you have absolutely no idea how trades work in the NFL. Do you know the history of trade ups? I'm guessing no because here I'll do the math for you

Trade ups work off of the value chart almost to a T

The margin of favor a team trading up can receive works to 5%. The margin the trade down team can get is up to 25%.

So your essentially saying the Detroit Lions are going to receive less than one third of the original value of their pick! Unless Olindo Mare is worth a top 10 pick this is ridiculous and this shouldn't even be on the forums.

It would take our 1st, two 2nds, 3rd, and Olindo Mare to get to the Lion's pick. Either you misunderstood what your source said or your source is blowing smoke.

I didn't misunderstood him, if something, my brother misunderstood him, but I remember that he said that the Lions are probably ask for something more..., he thinks Miami's next year second or third, but he told me that if that happens Miamii is willing to reject the trade.

kashbo
03-25-2007, 09:23 PM
Yep Levi Jones the Cinncinnati Bengals left tackle!

:lol: :lol: :sidelol:
no levi brown OT from College, my badd

finfan54
03-25-2007, 09:23 PM
that would be so cool, joe thomas and levi jones superbowl here we come


Levi Jones :confused:

kashbo
03-25-2007, 09:24 PM
this levi jones incident with joey p got me all messed up lol

Jaj
03-25-2007, 09:24 PM
Miami MAYBE MAYBE, offered their two 2nds plus their 1st and Mare and they denied it. Even if it took three 2nd rounders from us that still sounds off to me but it's closer now.

There is an ounce of legitimacy if the first was offered, otherwise this is rubbish.

finfan54
03-25-2007, 09:24 PM
:lol: :lol: :sidelol:
no levi brown OT from College, my badd



thats so funny cus you have your Porter sig and thats who Peezee smacked.:D

kashbo
03-25-2007, 09:24 PM
Levi Jones :confused:

my badd bro levi brown

kashbo
03-25-2007, 09:26 PM
thats so funny cus you have your Porter sig and thats who Peezee smacked.:D

I KNOW MAN DAMN, Porter and 300 pd o line jeeze thats a fight I love to pay for and watch lol

finfan54
03-25-2007, 09:28 PM
Miami MAYBE MAYBE, offered their two 2nds plus their 1st and Mare and they denied it. Even if it took three 2nd rounders from us that still sounds off to me but it's closer now.

There is an ounce of legitimacy if the first was offered, otherwise this is rubbish.


Well Postermaster said we originally offered our 9 and 60 for #2. That sounds a little off but maybe our 40 would make more sense. Since we were already talking to Detroit about Mare, this part of it makes sense. If they want a cheaper mare and picks that cost less, maybe Detroit has some tight cap space?

Anyone know anything about there cap situation?

kashbo
03-25-2007, 09:29 PM
Miami MAYBE MAYBE, offered their two 2nds plus their 1st and Mare and they denied it. Even if it took three 2nd rounders from us that still sounds off to me but it's closer now.

There is an ounce of legitimacy if the first was offered, otherwise this is rubbish.

so you dont think this trade would happen or exist for that matter

bakedmatt
03-25-2007, 09:30 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!

Ahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!! :rofl3:

PhinsRDbest
03-25-2007, 09:30 PM
There has to be conditional picks or pick swappage in that trade. Too bad they dont want Culpepper.

Jaj
03-25-2007, 09:30 PM
The amount of cap space that Mare entails and transfer and of a top three pick in the draft is so far apart that it's not even worth mentioning.

Our first is in the conversation regardless. Miami does not have one player even that they could likely trade for that 1st.

That 9th pick is in the dialogue without even mentioning it.

Regan21286
03-25-2007, 09:34 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!

If that's true, we must be using Ricky Williams to open negotiations and it might be in his smoke-filled yoga hut. It'd take Millen's stupidity plus a MJ-induced haze to let him give us the #2 and keep the #9. :sidelol:

finfan54
03-25-2007, 09:34 PM
Ok. Maybe this sounds far fetched as far as the details. But I do imagine we are talking to Detroit about Mare and moving up. Alot of teams are talking to Detroit right now so why not us?

This part of it i believe. Maybe there is more to this and what Postermaster wrote was only what we heard but a deal could be iminent. wow, I am going to bed tonight with some good dreams.......

Dmarino110
03-25-2007, 09:34 PM
The amount of cap space that Mare entails and transfer and of a top three pick in the draft is so far apart that it's not even worth mentioning.

Our first is in the conversation regardless. Miami does not have one player even that they could likely trade for that 1st.

That 9th pick is in the dialogue without even mentioning it.

u dont think our 1st and JT would be worth the 2nd over all..?

Jaj
03-25-2007, 09:36 PM
No I do believe it would be but it probably wouldn't have any chance of happening. I'm not talking 1% or 2% chance, I'm saying literally a .0000001% chance of that being offered.

I meant more or less a single player without the 9.

Enhalo
03-25-2007, 09:36 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!

Wow.

If this is true I might just crap myself. I mean are you kidding me? Johnson AND Quinn? I'll admit I'm totally skeptical just because it seems like we would be absolutely raping the entire Lions organization if it actually happened. I mean postermaster I want to believe you, and I think you're telling the truth, but I just don't think any of us want to get our hopes up. Is there anything else you could show or tell us that would backup what you've said?

AZfan
03-25-2007, 09:38 PM
Here I'll do you a favor and you can put this in your profile so I'll own up to it. If the Dolphins trade the 40th and the 60th pick plus Olindo Mare for the Lion's 2nd I WILL NEVER EVER EVER post on this forum again. In fact if the moderators allow I will give you my VIP membership.

:sidelol: Thanks for the best laugh I have had all day!

I can't believe everyone is giving this balogne the time of day..... I guess we are all desperate for something new!

It's horrible to admit this, but it really has been an entertaining read though!

Nappy Roots
03-25-2007, 09:39 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!




lmao. thats ridiculous. any GM that does that would be fired before he even pulled the trigger. Detriots dumb, but far far far less dumb then that.


:lol:

finfan54
03-25-2007, 09:39 PM
There has to be conditional picks or pick swappage in that trade. Too bad they dont want Culpepper.

How bout next years #1? Next year we will be picking 15-25 IMO. More likely around 20.

postermaster
03-25-2007, 09:40 PM
Ahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!! :rofl3:

If we don't take Detroit's 1st, Ill say that Im an idiot following an idiot source, but If we somehow take Detroit's 1st I want you to be the first to tell me that you are an idiot...

PhinsRDbest
03-25-2007, 09:41 PM
Wow.

If this is true I might just crap myself. I mean are you kidding me? Johnson AND Quinn? I'll admit I'm totally skeptical just because it seems like we would be absolutely raping the entire Lions organization if it actually happened. I mean postermaster I want to believe you, and I think you're telling the truth, but I just don't think any of us want to get our hopes up. Is there anything else you could show or tell us that would backup what you've said?
If this is true I think everyone here might have to change there undys.

Nappy Roots
03-25-2007, 09:42 PM
If we don't take Detroit's 1st, Ill say that Im an idiot following an idiot source, but If we somehow take Detroit's 1st I want you to be the first to tell me that you are an idiot...


its not the fact that we might trade up that is dumb, its the compensation for it. its way off. 2 2nds and our 2nd string kicker that missed 10 FGs last year? :sidelol: its absolutely ridiculous.

finfan54
03-25-2007, 09:45 PM
Here is my offer:

Next years #1, #40 and 60, and Mare. That would do it wouldnt it?


check that.

#9 and #60 and next years 1st rounder and Mare.

Its a deal.

Calvin Johnson! Thank you for getting rid of the Ginn lovers!!!! he he

Jaj
03-25-2007, 09:47 PM
Nope...

postermaster
03-25-2007, 09:48 PM
Wow.

If this is true I might just crap myself. I mean are you kidding me? Johnson AND Quinn? I'll admit I'm totally skeptical just because it seems like we would be absolutely raping the entire Lions organization if it actually happened. I mean postermaster I want to believe you, and I think you're telling the truth, but I just don't think any of us want to get our hopes up. Is there anything else you could show or tell us that would backup what you've said?

OK, ill try..., check back tomorow if theres something new, Im gonna pressure my bro to get the latest news!

MF19
03-25-2007, 09:49 PM
I'm just as skeptical about this trade as everyone else but what if we trade for Trent Green then trade Green the 2 2nds and Mare for Detroits 1st?

Enhalo
03-25-2007, 09:50 PM
OK, ill try...

Thanks bro.

Enhalo
03-25-2007, 09:51 PM
I'm just as skeptical about this trade as everyone else but what if we trade for Trent Green then trade Green the 2 2nds and Mare for Detroits 1st?

Because apparently Detroit will trade with us if we let them sign Green. Why should we give up a late-rounder for someone we won't keep?

postermaster
03-25-2007, 09:53 PM
Thanks bro.

Don't thank me, thank my source..., Ill keep you over the top news...

Paul 13
03-25-2007, 09:54 PM
Man, too bad we don't have Harrington on our roster anymore, we could include him in the trade as the clincher! LMAO!! :rolleyes:

MF19
03-25-2007, 09:54 PM
Yes but apparently Detroit wants something more then just the 2 2nds and Mare so mayb by aquiring Green an then adding him to the package to be traded this will seal the deal

PhinsRDbest
03-25-2007, 09:56 PM
If this trade did happen i think the should consider trading down from 2 to somewhere they know they can get Quinn and get an extra 3rd or 4th. (unless they really think Clevlend will take him) Then trade down from the 9 spot and grab either Darrelle Revis, Joe Staley, or Ted Ginn Jr.

postermaster
03-25-2007, 09:57 PM
Because apparently Detroit will trade with us if we let them sign Green. Why should we give up a late-rounder for someone we won't keep?

You are right, but now that I remember, my brother mentioned something about Detroit seeking for something more or something different, theres a good chance (I think) that they ask us to trade for Green and give them Mare, our 2 2nds and Green..., I think that might happen if Green costs us a 3rd or maximum a 4th..., if he costs us a 5th, the Lions' should ask for something more (I think), maybe a 4th, 5th or 6th (I think)...

I also heard that the Lions are probably ask for something more, but if that happens Miami is willing to reject the trade (I think Miami said tha because they don't want Detroit to exceed their limits when asking for more if they ask for more), I think Miami will accept this trade if Detroit ask for what I wrote above or something similar...

finfan54
03-25-2007, 09:58 PM
Man, too bad we don't have Harrington on our roster anymore, we could include him in the trade as the clincher! LMAO!! :rolleyes:

:sidelol: Now thats funny. Headlines: Harrington Comes Full Circle

postermaster
03-25-2007, 09:59 PM
If this trade did happen i think the should consider trading down from 2 to somewhere they know they can get Quinn and get an extra 3rd or 4th. (unless they really think Clevlend will take him) Then trade down from the 9 spot and grab either Darrelle Revis, Joe Staley, or Ted Ginn Jr.

I would take CJ in the #2 and Brady Quinn in the #9 (If he falls)

finfan54
03-25-2007, 10:01 PM
I would take CJ in the #2 and Brady Quinn in the #9 (If he falls)


This is what I keep thinking now but Mueller and Cam probably got serious wood for Quinn.

Stitches
03-25-2007, 10:01 PM
Never happen!

:yeahthat:

No chance anything close to this ever happens, unless the draft has started to only include 5 picks per round, and we give up 2 2nd rounders to get the #2 overall.

PhinsRDbest
03-25-2007, 10:05 PM
I would take CJ in the #2 and Brady Quinn in the #9 (If he falls)
Well maybe they can swap picks with Clevlend(tell them we got a deal with another team in the works) and in return Clevlend promises not to draft Quinn. Then hopefully Minny signs Carr.

bakedmatt
03-25-2007, 10:05 PM
If we don't take Detroit's 1st, Ill say that Im an idiot following an idiot source, but If we somehow take Detroit's 1st I want you to be the first to tell me that you are an idiot...

If we make that trade that you just talked about then yeah, I'll say I'm an idiot. I wouldn't care. Hell, I'd love to.

Paul 13
03-25-2007, 10:07 PM
:sidelol: Now thats funny. Headlines: Harrington Comes Full Circle


LOL, at that point I think to really balance it out, they would need to throw in Mike Williams. :ninja:

postermaster
03-25-2007, 10:08 PM
If we make that trade that you just talked about then yeah, I'll say I'm an idiot. I wouldn't care. Hell, I'd love to.

I'll also love to hear from you that you are an idiot, plus have the #2 overall plus the #9 overall... :lol:

MF19
03-25-2007, 10:08 PM
You are right, but now that I remember, my brother mentioned something about Detroit seeking for something more or something different, theres a good chance (I think) that they ask us to trade for Green and give them Mare, our 2 2nds and Green..., I think that might happen if Green costs us a 3rd or maximum a 4th..., if he costs us a 5th, the Lions' should ask for something more (I think), maybe a 4th, 5th or 6th (I think)...

I also heard that the Lions are probably ask for something more, but if that happens Miami is willing to reject the trade (I think Miami said tha because they don't want Detroit to exceed their limits when asking for more if they ask for more), I think Miami will accept this trade if Detroit ask for what I wrote above or something similar...

Im glad to have jolted ur memory lol

bakedmatt
03-25-2007, 10:10 PM
I'll also love to hear from you that you are an idiot, plus have the #2 overall plus the #9 overall... :lol:

I don't know how it would make me an idiot if I didn't trust the latest, "I have a source, listen to me" guy, but okay. You have my word.

diego's fins
03-25-2007, 10:11 PM
that's too good to be true, but the lions have made some silly mistakes in the past(like drafting 3 straight wrs and two of them ending up being busts) so anything is posible at this point. Also giving more force to the rumor, matt millen must be very afraid to take another bust with a high draft pick, he knows if he does it again, he is fired.
If he pulls his team out of the 1st round he automatically takes some pressure off him.
I would love to get Brady Quinn with the 2nd, and Ted ginn with the 9th.

PhinsRDbest
03-25-2007, 10:17 PM
So the top 10 could look like this:
1. Jamarcus Russell-Oakland
2. Calvin Johnson-Miami
3. Adrian Peterson-Clevlend
4. Gaines Adams-Tampa
5. Joe Thomas-Arizona
6. Jamal Anderson-Washington
7. Laron Landry-Minnesota
8. Amobi Okoye-Atlanta
9. Brady Quinn-Miami
10. Levi Brown-Houston
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!!!

aesop
03-25-2007, 10:19 PM
Yeah, right.

TotoreMexico
03-25-2007, 10:28 PM
My direct source is my brother, his source I think might be someone into the VIP officiating HQ of the Miami Dolphins, I don't know precisely, but I do know that he is very accurate, I knew that the Dolphins were taking Daunte over Brees like 2 weeks before they traded for him, I knew that Cameron has already accepted to be Miami's HC when "they were searching for HC", I knew that Porter was coming to Miami little after he was released the only time that he has mistaken was when he told me that Nick Saban was going to stay in Miami when Alabama offered him a job...

Why you didn't tell us?:rolleyes:

bakedmatt
03-25-2007, 10:31 PM
So the top 10 could look like this:
1. Jamarcus Russell-Oakland
2. Calvin Johnson-Miami
3. Adrian Peterson-Clevlend
4. Gaines Adams-Tampa
5. Joe Thomas-Arizona
6. Jamal Anderson-Washington
7. Laron Landry-Minnesota
8. Amobi Okoye-Atlanta
9. Brady Quinn-Miami
10. Levi Brown-Houston
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!!!

Absolutely.

Stitches
03-25-2007, 10:33 PM
Absolutely.

:shakeno:

NYPhinFan
03-25-2007, 10:34 PM
In all honesty this is so off the chart it borders on craziness. Not calling anyone a liar..maybe the story got messed up on the way...but people would be fired on the spot the minute this "trade" went down. The numbers don't match...let me re-phrase that....the numbers are not even in the ballpark. Any trade...ANY trade involves #9...basic math.

TotoreMexico
03-25-2007, 10:37 PM
The bills have more chance of winning a SB than this trade happening...

Stitches
03-25-2007, 10:38 PM
The bills have more chance of winning a SB than this trade happening...

With Marv Levy at MLB.

Jaj
03-25-2007, 10:40 PM
Oh I don't know about that...

Hahahaha

TotoreMexico
03-25-2007, 10:42 PM
With Marv Levy at MLB.

And Ralph Wilson at RB

Phinatical
03-25-2007, 10:43 PM
Dick Juaron at QB.

GridIronKing34
03-25-2007, 10:44 PM
This is a little far fetched... I honestly cannot see this happening, it just seems... Unrealistic. Here's what would end up happening.

#2 overall = 2,600 pt

#41 overall = 490 pt
#62 overall = 284 pt

Together that's like.. 774 points... meaning the Lions are losing around 1,800 points, equivalent to the #4 overall or so, meaning Mare is worth the #4 overall.

I'll admit that I'm wrong if this happens, but it sounds insane and I think this is all mere wishful thinking taken to the extreme.

IdahoPhin
03-25-2007, 10:45 PM
Well this thread brought life to a rather boring day.:cooldude:

tailwalker
03-25-2007, 10:47 PM
this would be great....but did you forget to take your meds today?

zach8111
03-25-2007, 10:52 PM
This is a little far fetched... I honestly cannot see this happening, it just seems... Unrealistic. Here's what would end up happening.

#2 overall = 2,600 pt

#41 overall = 490 pt
#62 overall = 284 pt

Together that's like.. 774 points... meaning the Lions are losing around 1,800 points, equivalent to the #4 overall or so, meaning Mare is worth the #4 overall.

I'll admit that I'm wrong if this happens, but it sounds insane and I think this is all mere wishful thinking taken to the extreme.
you definatly would have to throw in your #9 and a player like DC or booker.

Jaj
03-25-2007, 10:56 PM
How about Mike Mularkey?

GridIronKing34
03-25-2007, 10:58 PM
How about Mike Mularkey?

If we threw in Mike Mularkey, then they'd make us include the #9...

Dmarino110
03-25-2007, 11:00 PM
how many points is the # 9 worth? where is the link to this whole points thing?

GridIronKing34
03-25-2007, 11:02 PM
#9 is worth 1,350 points... search NFL Draft Value Chart on google and you'll find one.

bakedmatt
03-25-2007, 11:10 PM
:shakeno:

What are you shaking your head at me for? I know it's bogus.

Stitches
03-25-2007, 11:15 PM
What are you shaking your head at me for? I know it's bogus.

Because no one should even have the slightest notion in there head that this could happen.

miamiron
03-25-2007, 11:19 PM
WHY CANT THE MODS STICKY A NFL DRAFT VALUE CHART???

That way there would not be anymore (or less than)the amount of proposed idiotic trades that we see posted every day!!!

Rubbin420
03-25-2007, 11:21 PM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!


This is finheaven not the miami herald, you dont have to hide your source.
Doesnt sound solid to me.

Phanatical
03-25-2007, 11:33 PM
I don't think this sounds like a fair trade. The Lions should throw in their third round pick, Kinoy Kennedy, and Roy Williams to balance it out.

taylormvp99
03-25-2007, 11:38 PM
I wish this could happen but no way. I will run around my house for probably 2 hours if this happened.

SR 7
03-26-2007, 12:29 AM
The only way this could happen, is if Millen had Wanstedt advising him on draft maneouvering. This would be the biggest robbery of the decade, no one could be that dumb!!!
BUT, it is the LIONS!!!

ey dude do me a favor n be quiet. he might read this thread! lolll

SR 7
03-26-2007, 12:37 AM
its not the fact that we might trade up that is dumb, its the compensation for it. its way off. 2 2nds and our 2nd string kicker that missed 10 FGs last year? :sidelol: its absolutely ridiculous.

BRO GET OVER IT!

we gave a 2nd for feeley, a 3rd for Gordon! anythign is possible in this WORLD **** man.

postermaster
03-26-2007, 12:45 AM
Why you didn't tell us?:rolleyes:

Actually I did, never posted, but ask "campeonaso" how many times I told him things that happened before being discussed in the forums, campeonaso is a friend of mine and I see him frequently

fullerboy1
03-26-2007, 12:49 AM
Calvin Johnson!!!

A big yes to that Bro..:evil:

postermaster
03-26-2007, 12:51 AM
Because no one should even have the slightest notion in there head that this could happen.

If this happens, I want you to be the second one to admit being an idiot, please mark it down...

Stitches
03-26-2007, 12:55 AM
If this happens, I want you to be the second one to admit being an idiot, please mark it down...

I would leapfrog the other guy, and admit it first.

But will you admit you are an idiot for posting this if it doesn't happen?

TotoreMexico
03-26-2007, 12:56 AM
Actually I did, never posted, but ask "campeonaso" how many times I told him things that happened before being discussed in the forums, campeonaso is a friend of mine and I see him frequently

I told him about this thread, and his response was:

postermaster ----> :m359:

I'm gonna ask him about all those things, to see if that's true. If he tells me that you said all those things before they happened, then I won't be so skeptical about this trade...

postermaster
03-26-2007, 01:03 AM
I would leapfrog the other guy, and admit it first.

But will you admit you are an idiot for posting this if it doesn't happen?

I said I will, eventhough in a trade that it still in talks is always more difficult to be right than to be wrong, but hell yes, I'll admit it...

postermaster
03-26-2007, 01:03 AM
I told him about this thread, and his response was:

postermaster ----> :m359:

I'm gonna ask him about all those things, to see if that's true. If he tells me that you said all those things before they happened, then I won't be so skeptical about this trade...

Sounds Fair Enough!!!

SR 7
03-26-2007, 01:06 AM
http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2007/03/dolphins-oline-scrapheapelite230307.html

read the part about miami and to trade for the number 2 overall. basically its sawpping 1sts, n giving a 2nd this year and tnext year if i recall right.

Stitches
03-26-2007, 01:08 AM
I said I will, eventhough in a trade that it still in talks is always more difficult to be right than to be wrong, but hell yes, I'll admit it...

Fair enough. I will certainly be first to admit I was wrong should this happen.

TotoreMexico
03-26-2007, 01:10 AM
Hey, with all due respect, you can say whatever you want, but i wont accept you to call me a lier..., if I say something its because I know that I heard it and as I said my source is very trustable, thats right Im 18, Im from Mexico, but my oldest brother who is 31 has some power into the NFL here in Mexico, he is owner (in addition with my father) of a very strong brand here in Mexico and thats why he is the mexican counselor of the NFL..., he was one of the guys that brought the Arizona vs. San Francisco game to Mexico...

So, the next time you want to talk be a 100% sure that you know the facts and that you are not talking because you just like to talk

What brand?

postermaster
03-26-2007, 01:11 AM
http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2007/03/dolphins-oline-scrapheapelite230307.html

read the part about miami and to trade for the number 2 overall. basically its sawpping 1sts, n giving a 2nd this year and tnext year if i recall right.

Thats something similar to what Miami first offered to Detroit, but Detroit rejected it...

postermaster
03-26-2007, 01:12 AM
What brand?

I'll send you a PM

Slappy8800
03-26-2007, 01:13 AM
my sources say "ooga booga ooga booga"

now i havent quite translated it all yet, but i think it translates, roughly......to

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TotoreMexico
03-26-2007, 01:14 AM
I'll send you a PM

K

phinsfan1221
03-26-2007, 01:34 AM
what type of medication is being taken tonight, been gone most of the day and people are daydreaming at night

postermaster
03-26-2007, 01:35 AM
This is a little far fetched... I honestly cannot see this happening, it just seems... Unrealistic. Here's what would end up happening.

#2 overall = 2,600 pt

#41 overall = 490 pt
#62 overall = 284 pt

Together that's like.. 774 points... meaning the Lions are losing around 1,800 points, equivalent to the #4 overall or so, meaning Mare is worth the #4 overall.

I'll admit that I'm wrong if this happens, but it sounds insane and I think this is all mere wishful thinking taken to the extreme.



NFL Draft Value Chart[/font]]
It is now common practice for NFL teams to follow a “draft value chart,” which assigns numeric values to every draft pick from No. 1 to the final pick in the seventh round, No. 262. The idea of the chart is to create a standard for assessing fair value for trades.



Each team creates their own draft value chart based upon their assessment of the draft and strength of the players at each position.


The chart only works with trades involving draft picks traded for picks. When players are involved, it changes everything.


The chart is just a guide. If a team likes a certain player they might be willing to give up more value points worth of picks in order to get their man. Likewise, a team not happy with its position might be willing to accept less in return than the chart might suggest to move down a few spots. Below is an example of a draft value chart. This is not a a chart which is used by any particular NFL team and is only an example of the what might be used by teams in assessing a trade.


http://www.theredzone.org/2006/draft/draftvaluechart.asp

That Chart contains the same value as you gave us...

AZStryker
03-26-2007, 01:46 AM
Actually I did, never posted, but ask "campeonaso" how many times I told him things that happened before being discussed in the forums, campeonaso is a friend of mine and I see him frequently

I'm calling BS too. My reasons:

1. If you knew all of that inside info.(porter, cameron, etc..), you'd be here in a second spilling it just like you're doing with this. Why start now?? Why spill this one?? Probably boredom and craving some attention.

2. The value doesn't even come close to adding up. This would be twice the
raping the Vikes took from the Cowboys.

3. You're taking some of the regurgitated info from the media and are trying to play connect the dots. Well you really miscalculated on this one. Mueller has said quantity not quality and the dolphins have too many holes to fill to trade away picks.

4. How is it someone in Mexico breaks this before any NFL insider does? Don't you think Schefter or Clayton would have gotten wind of this before someone in another country??? Come on, their job is to sniff this stuff out and break it first. Please.

5. If Miami is trading up, they wouldn't say who it is for. It is still a poker game even with one pick ahead of you. Oakland or another team can still spoil your plans.

Sorry sparky we're not buying it.

DonShula84
03-26-2007, 01:51 AM
Your "source" is full of it

postermaster
03-26-2007, 01:56 AM
I'm calling BS too. My reasons:

1. If you knew all of that inside info.(porter, cameron, etc..), you'd be here in a second spilling it just like you're doing with this. Why start now?? Why spill this one?? Probably boredom and craving some attention.

2. The value doesn't even come close to adding up. This would be twice the
raping the Vikes took from the Cowboys.

3. You're taking some of the regurgitated info from the media and are trying to play connect the dots. Well you really miscalculated on this one. Mueller has said quantity not quality and the dolphins have too many holes to fill to trade away picks.

4. How is it someone in Mexico breaks this before any NFL insider does? Don't you think Schefter or Clayton would have gotten wind of this before someone in another country??? Come on, their job is to sniff this stuff out and break it first. Please.

5. If Miami is trading up, they wouldn't say who it is for. It is still a poker game even with one pick ahead of you. Oakland or another team can still spoil your plans.

Sorry sparky we're not buying it.


1.- Because thats the most impressive thing Ive heard from my source.

2 & 3.- I didn't do the calculation, the Dolphins and Lions did...

4.- I don't mess with Schefter's or Clayton's job, I think they must been very busy for being sniffin "trade talks" of 2 teams that haven't arranged anythin yet...

5.- You can say whatever you want about your "Poker Strategy", but the fact is that I posted what I heard!

GRYPHONK
03-26-2007, 02:04 AM
Man oh man, this is definitely a wild trade. I think Millen and the Lions would complete jokes to do it. I also think if the Lions ask for a little more and the Phins don't do it they would be jokes as well.

Now I am not gonna sit here and say that you are a liar and call B.S. I think many posters should have learned their lesson after the breaking news thread bout Will Poole.

It is just very hard to believe that the Lions would even consider it. I do think there is some logic behind the idea that the Phins would let them get Green. That makes sense. But still, the value just isn't there. Especially when Denver is giving their 1st 3rd and Al Wilson to move up.

I also don't get how Detroit would rather have 3 2nd's then 1 2nd and 1 1st.

IMO the only way to get the #2 without giving up the #9 would be this. Our 2 2nd's, Mare, give them Green and our 1st next year. I could see that as being realistic.

postermaster
03-26-2007, 03:28 AM
Man oh man, this is definitely a wild trade. I think Millen and the Lions would complete jokes to do it. I also think if the Lions ask for a little more and the Phins don't do it they would be jokes as well.

Now I am not gonna sit here and say that you are a liar and call B.S. I think many posters should have learned their lesson after the breaking news thread bout Will Poole.

It is just very hard to believe that the Lions would even consider it. I do think there is some logic behind the idea that the Phins would let them get Green. That makes sense. But still, the value just isn't there. Especially when Denver is giving their 1st 3rd and Al Wilson to move up.

I also don't get how Detroit would rather have 3 2nd's then 1 2nd and 1 1st.

IMO the only way to get the #2 without giving up the #9 would be this. Our 2 2nd's, Mare, give them Green and our 1st next year. I could see that as being realistic.

I don't think so, what if we get the 1st overall next year?

Agent51
03-26-2007, 04:17 AM
No offense to anyone here but this is the biggest load of crap ever. There are so many things wrong with this that I can't believe even an idiot like Millen would do this.

1, the #2 overall pick is worth 2,600 points. Our TWO 2nd-rounders are worth 800........COMBINED. You are telling me that Detroit is willing to lose 1,800 in value points for a washed up old QB (no offense to Green, but in terms of being a full fledged starter he is done, he is better suited for the "one year starter and mentor" role) and a kicker that has been on the decline for like 3 seasons :confused:

2, I find it hard to believe Detroit values Green over Quinn or Russell, or even David Carr, whom they could sign for free without needed to "wheel and deal" with a team.

3, You can't even pull of two 2nd-rounders for the #2 overall pick in MADDEN, which is KNOWN for it's unrealistic trades.

I'll humor this thought for a second though and say, IF this were true, I would hope we go Quinn at #2 and Landry at #9 (or trade down if he isn't there and take Leon Hall or Chris Houston later in round 1, depending on how far down we trade.

max68
03-26-2007, 05:04 AM
This trade is absolutely crazy but probably not so crazy as this scenario:

Miami trades #40 #60 AND 2nd round 2008 plus Mare to Detroit for # 2 overall, so now Miami has # 2 and # 9

Miami trades #2 to Arizona for #5 #38 and a 3rd round 2008 (Arizona wants Joe Thomas and at #5 is not sure to land him)

Miami trades #9 to Green bay for #16 #47 and #78

In the end Miami has #5 #16 #38 #47 #71 and #78 in the first 3 rounds and a 3rd round in 2008

My sources are Matt & Randy :lol: :lol: :lol:

dolphinfan0762
03-26-2007, 05:36 AM
THIS IS A JOKE.............right? NO WAY IN HELL! this dont even makes sense (our 2 second rounders and mare) If Detriot makes this deal, they should be shot and WHY in the hell they would want Mare....who was the worst kicker in the league last year.

Boomer
03-26-2007, 06:10 AM
As we all know, Detroit was willing to trade down his first round draft pick, and my very trustable source has told me that at first Miami was trying to Flip Flop the first round with Detroit + Miami would have given them our late second, but Detroit found more convincing to have 3 seconds (plus Mare) instead of a first and two second round picks (one of them, a late) and without Mare..., my source told me that Miami is willing to accept that trade offer, but Detroit also asked for Miami to restructure his contract (Mare's) and that there's a big rumor that in order to complete this trade Detroit asked Miami to let them stick with Green, who previously showed his interest to play in Miami...

My source told me that this trade talks have been during some days now and they are still talking about it...

GO PHINS!!!

What a load of absolute rubbish.

So Miami trades 2 second round picks and a kicker - trade value - 6th/7th round - for the 2nd overall pick and the Lions move from 2, to 40 and 60??

I'm genuinely surprised threads like these are allowed.

Utter ****.

Boomer
03-26-2007, 06:20 AM
And FLMAO at the VIP Officiating HQ of the Dolphins.

That right there - if it even exists - that's going to be at the very coal face when it comes to stacking our draft board and sorting trades.

NOT.

bakedmatt
03-26-2007, 07:35 AM
Because no one should even have the slightest notion in there head that this could happen.

Yeah, you must have missed my first two posts.

Stitches
03-26-2007, 07:41 AM
Yeah, you must have missed my first two posts.


I did.

LarryFinFan
03-26-2007, 07:57 AM
Thats correct, but we also have to restructure Mare's contract

Well, I guess your source was wrong...Mare and Punk Drew both have said the Fins haven't talked to them at all about the contract...

http://www.miamiherald.com/616/story/52962.html and

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-spdolphinspec26mar26,0,5754904.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

Seems unlikely also since this goes away from Mul's "quantity" theme...

DreamWeaver
03-26-2007, 08:08 AM
Plus 2 seconds (one early and one late), plus they have one very early second, so they would have 3 seconds + all what you said..., well, as I said, thats whats my source told me and those are just rumors...

Who is your "source"? Someone who works for the Dolphins or just some crazy website that you managed to run across? You gotta do better than quoting an un-named, anonymous "source".

FINSFAN2781
03-26-2007, 10:00 AM
So the top 10 could look like this:
1. Jamarcus Russell-Oakland
2. Calvin Johnson-Miami
3. Adrian Peterson-Clevlend
4. Gaines Adams-Tampa
5. Joe Thomas-Arizona
6. Jamal Anderson-Washington
7. Laron Landry-Minnesota
8. Amobi Okoye-Atlanta
9. Brady Quinn-Miami
10. Levi Brown-Houston
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!!!

If this trade actually happens, i dont know what i would do. I think i will personally write a letter to Matt Millen and thank him for being so stupid.

And if the trade did go down, and our 2 picks are what you have mentioned, i think i would die in shock. I would absolutely love our 2 picks to look like that, that would be the icing on the cake. This could be the smartest trade Miami has ever done.

SabanHater
03-26-2007, 10:11 AM
I think your source was out late last night.

FINSFAN2781
03-26-2007, 10:24 AM
This trade is absolutely crazy but probably not so crazy as this scenario:

Miami trades #40 #60 AND 2nd round 2008 plus Mare to Detroit for # 2 overall, so now Miami has # 2 and # 9

Miami trades #2 to Arizona for #5 #38 and a 3rd round 2008 (Arizona wants Joe Thomas and at #5 is not sure to land him)

Miami trades #9 to Green bay for #16 #47 and #78

In the end Miami has #5 #16 #38 #47 #71 and #78 in the first 3 rounds and a 3rd round in 2008

My sources are Matt & Randy :lol: :lol: :lol:

I love it.......:sidelol: :sidelol:

Dolfan11
03-26-2007, 10:39 AM
Seems to good to be real. If that were the case, I'd trade out of the 9th pick into the late 1st and pick up a 2nd.

Motion
03-26-2007, 10:47 AM
:jt0323: Interesting

pigskinguy
03-26-2007, 11:26 AM
All you guys buying this need to step away from the bong. 2 2nd round picks and a washed up kicker for the #2 pick in the draft????
C'mon people think...Haven't your mothers told you not to believe everything you see on the internet.

Myles Fynch
03-26-2007, 11:58 AM
I'll buy that we're talking to Detroit, and but it stops there.

The part about Green is really crazy. If it could ever be proved that two teams made an agreement that one of them wouldn't sign a player, don't you think the NFLPA would be all over that one? Not a lawyer, but it sounds like collusion to me.

Someone previously mentioned this is a 3 to 1 devaluation of the #2 pick if this rumor was true. I didn't run the numbers, but that sounds close enough. And the rumor stated Miami would walk away if Detroit wanted to add anything else. Umm.... no. Depending on how badly Miami wants whichever prospect they are drooling over, they would most likely be willing to accept a 50/50 deal, maybe worse. They wouldn't walk away because Detroit wanted to limit the degree by which they were being mugged. And that's if Miami reversed course and decided "quality over quantity."

Interesting read... time for lunch.

zach8111
03-26-2007, 12:00 PM
I love it.......:sidelol: :sidelol:
even if his was possible, you would have too many draft pipcks. you can only have ten picks in the draft. no more than 10

SR 7
03-26-2007, 12:02 PM
even if his was possible, you would have too many draft pipcks. you can only have ten picks in the draft. no more than 10

nope. its 12.

Stitches
03-26-2007, 12:42 PM
nope. its 12.

Yea, it is 12.

Motion
03-26-2007, 01:14 PM
All you guys buying this need to step away from the bong. 2 2nd round picks and a washed up kicker for the #2 pick in the draft????
C'mon people think...Haven't your mothers told you not to believe everything you see on the internet.

:(

Stitches
03-26-2007, 01:18 PM
:(

Motion, go look fro my thread in SPAM.

Motion
03-26-2007, 01:29 PM
Motion, go look fro my thread in SPAM.

:shakeno: Your so mean, "Stirring up hate" like that.