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Dolfansal
04-01-2007, 08:06 PM
We will not be a legit team until we get a QB.

When are we going to get a franchise QB?(Don't say next year when Brohm comes out) We have been saying next year for a freakin decade now.


I know some of you don't want to hear it but we need Quinn.
We need him. You don't get many chances at a franchise QB. Some of you think he will be a flop. I think we need to take the chance. If I had to put odds on it I would say:
80% - solid starter or better
15% - decent player
5% Bust

When will we have a chance like this again?

Nappy Roots
04-01-2007, 08:08 PM
we dont even have a chance at him yet. and i doubt we will period.

PhinSoldia
04-01-2007, 08:14 PM
We will not be a legit team until we get a QB.

When are we going to get a franchise QB?(Don't say next year when Brohm comes out) We have been saying next year for a freakin decade now.


I know some of you don't want to hear it but we need Quinn.
We need him. You don't get many chances at a franchise QB. Some of you think he will be a flop. I think we need to take the chance. If I had to put odds on it I would say:
80% - solid starter or better
15% - decent player
5% Bust

When will we have a chance like this again?

i guess you havent been paying attention to Quinn's work outs

Agent51
04-01-2007, 08:14 PM
We will not be a legit team until we get a QB.

When are we going to get a franchise QB?(Don't say next year when Brohm comes out) We have been saying next year for a freakin decade now.


I know some of you don't want to hear it but we need Quinn.
We need him. You don't get many chances at a franchise QB. Some of you think he will be a flop. I think we need to take the chance. If I had to put odds on it I would say:
80% - solid starter or better
15% - decent player
5% Bust

When will we have a chance like this again?

Agreed 100%, and I've said this (in some form or another) in almost every one of my posts in the Draft forum, :lol:.

Question though, have we even brought Quinn in for a visit? If not, do we PLAN too? I haven't heard anything and if he doesn't visit that pretty much garuntees we aren't drafting him, nevermind moving up for him.

PJack
04-01-2007, 09:23 PM
Totally agree we need to draft our franchise QB. I don't see Quinn being a flop especially while Cam is calling the plays. Don't know that we need to bring him in, as our QB coach Terry Shea coached Quinn in his pre-draft preparations. Probably has a better feel for Quinn than most coaches/teams.

MrEd
04-01-2007, 09:31 PM
We will not be a legit team until we get a QB.

When are we going to get a franchise QB?(Don't say next year when Brohm comes out) We have been saying next year for a freakin decade now.


I know some of you don't want to hear it but we need Quinn.
We need him. You don't get many chances at a franchise QB. Some of you think he will be a flop. I think we need to take the chance. If I had to put odds on it I would say:
80% - solid starter or better
15% - decent player
5% Bust

When will we have a chance like this again?

Dude, by the picture on your avatar, you are a little disturbed. You need to get off of Quinn's you know what. We have DC, Lemon, possibly Green, and a chance at a late 2nd round or 3rd round QB to develop.

Our 1st round pick needs to go to a NEED. Not a luxury pick like Quinn. If you even call him that. He actually has some possible bust written over him according to some experts.

Dolfansal
04-01-2007, 10:11 PM
Dude, by the picture on your avatar, you are a little disturbed. You need to get off of Quinn's you know what. We have DC, Lemon, possibly Green, and a chance at a late 2nd round or 3rd round QB to develop.

Our 1st round pick needs to go to a NEED. Not a luxury pick like Quinn. If you even call him that. He actually has some possible bust written over him according to some experts.
You don't think QB is a need for us?

Let's see:
Culpepper - Hasn't played in 2 years and might never be more than a shell of what he once was.
Lemon - Not going to lead us to the promised land. Good backup yes.
Green - One more head shot away from retirement, and he is 37!!!
2nd or 3rd rounder - What are the chance that this QB will be the one?

You and ricky must have the same yoga instructor.

Dolfansal
04-01-2007, 10:13 PM
Boomer has him at #3.


3. Brady Quinn.
Not buying any of the nonsense that has surrounded his draft 'off-season'. A brilliant leader of men, as hard working off the field as he is good on it. From diet to tape study, from weight room work, to finding sports that compliment his ability – his work with Zbikowski as a boxer for example. If Miami ended up with him, it'd be a happy day in the Clancy house. I think he's the sort of player that you win Superbowls with and I'm certain that Cam views him as the sort of player that he can work with for a decade and build Miami into something dominant.

BornSlippy
04-01-2007, 10:18 PM
Quinn never beat a powerhouse in his college career. ND got smoked every big game. he padded his stats against the NAvy's and the other softies on the schedule.

Dolfansal
04-01-2007, 10:21 PM
How many times did Peyton lose to Florida?

Would you want him as our QB?

Dolfansal
04-01-2007, 10:23 PM
It takes more than a great QB to win a big game.

If all it took was a great QB then we would of had a few super bowl wins during Marino's time.

It takes a great supporting cast.

Nappy Roots
04-01-2007, 10:26 PM
Quinn never beat a powerhouse in his college career. ND got smoked every big game. he padded his stats against the NAvy's and the other softies on the schedule.


he beat Georgia Tech on the road, Penn State, Pittsburgh on the road twice, Tennessee on the road AND at home, and to top it off Michigan on the road AND at home....

so what the hell are you talkin about?

NMUCats
04-01-2007, 10:26 PM
Oh heavens Slippy I don't know where to start....or if I should even try in the first place. You've been ESPNized....you heard the same drivel on ESPN all year to where you now believe it. It's a shame there are so many of you out there.

You probably also think Trent Edwards would be a good qb too...the same qb who's team got beat 37-6 by Navy.

Or the fact that when you take away the 3 service academies from ND's schedule this year, he still averages 280 yds a game w/3 tds and just under 1 int a game. Oh btw, 8 of the other teams were bowl teams as well.

But keep on keepin on my man.

Vegas dolfan
04-01-2007, 10:31 PM
I would rather draft Troy Smith in the 3rd round then have Quinn.

Agent51
04-01-2007, 10:32 PM
Dude, by the picture on your avatar, you are a little disturbed. You need to get off of Quinn's you know what. We have DC, Lemon, possibly Green, and a chance at a late 2nd round or 3rd round QB to develop.

Our 1st round pick needs to go to a NEED. Not a luxury pick like Quinn. If you even call him that. He actually has some possible bust written over him according to some experts.

That is the exact reason we NEED Quinn.

How do you figure Quinn is a luxury pick? How many FA QBs (like you want Green this year), traded-for QBs (like C-Pep and Lemon, just to name the recent ones), or later round drafted QBs (Berlin and Heupel) have worked out for us? I would say 1st round QB is a NEED.

Retnuhrace
04-01-2007, 11:02 PM
Quinn had a horrible game against LSU in the Sugar Bowl, but besides that, lets look at his other games against non-cupcake teams from this past season:

W 14-10 @ Georgia Tech: 23-38 246 yards 0 TD 0 INT (also ran for a TD): Not very good, but no huge mistakes either. Only led his team to 14 points...

W 41-14 vs Penn State: 25-36 287 yards 3 TD 0 INT: Came back from his subpar performance against GT to put on a spectacular game against a decent Penn State defense.

L 47-21 vs Michigan: 24-48 234 yards 3 TD 3 INT: Had a subpar game against Michigan (although I'll give him some slack as this was against the #2 team in the nation for most of the season). Completed only 50% of his passes and threw 3 INTs. Remember, this is the same team that Troy Smith lit up. for 316 yards, 4 TDs, and 1 INT.

W 40-37 @ Michigan State: 20-36 319 yards 5 TDs 1 INT: Led an amazing comeback against a subpar Michigan State team.

W 20-17 vs UCLA: 27-45 304 yards 2 TD 0 INT: Had a pretty good game against UCLA, despite leading his team to just 20 points. Not very efficient percentage-wise, but he didn't throw any picks. Remember this was a UCLA defense that stifled the USC offense and knocked them out of the National Championship picture.

L 44-24 @ USC: 22-45 274 yards 3 TD 0 INT: Same kind of story as the UCLA game (except for the fact that they lost this time). Threw 3 TDs & 0 INTs, however he again wasn't very efficient, completing less than 50% off his passes. However, who can forget that amazing long run he had in this game...

And just for the heck of it...

L 41-14 @ LSU (Sugar Bowl): 15-35 148 yards 2 TD 2 INT: Just a horrible way to end his career... played possibly the worst game of his career...

So there you have it. He had his ups & downs. However, watching his games, one thing I noticed was that he threw to a lot of WIDE OPEN recievers. He really hasn't showed the ability to fit the ball in tight quarters in my opinion. Another thing that I've noticed is that a lot of his good games and throws came when the pass rush was almost non-existant against him. I saw Quinn panic and make poor throws on several occasions when he got pressured in some fashion.

Stitches
04-01-2007, 11:07 PM
I would rather draft Troy Smith in the 3rd round then have Quinn.

I'd rather have Jamarcus Russell than Troy Smith, and I'd take probably take 2 QBs over Russell, counting Quinn. I'd even probably rather have Stanton or Edwards over Smith. If we haven't go a QB by round 4 and Smith is there, fine. But no sooner.

rayfinkle5
04-01-2007, 11:07 PM
I would rather draft Troy Smith in the 3rd round then have Quinn.

I think you mean Kevin Kolb. At least I hope so!

Captain Lou
04-02-2007, 09:45 AM
You don't think QB is a need for us?

Let's see:
Culpepper - Hasn't played in 2 years and might never be more than a shell of what he once was.
Lemon - Not going to lead us to the promised land. Good backup yes.
Green - One more head shot away from retirement, and he is 37!!!
2nd or 3rd rounder - What are the chance that this QB will be the one?

You and ricky must have the same yoga instructor.


Taking a qb in the second round has just as much a chance to fail or suceed as Quinn does. The key is to the let who ever we draft sit the bench a year or 2, and give them time to develope. I'm pretty sure Cameron is trying to win this year, and no rookie qb is going to help us do that.

retarmyfinfan
04-02-2007, 10:17 AM
Agreed 100%, and I've said this (in some form or another) in almost every one of my posts in the Draft forum, :lol:.

Question though, have we even brought Quinn in for a visit? If not, do we PLAN too? I haven't heard anything and if he doesn't visit that pretty much garuntees we aren't drafting him, nevermind moving up for him.

Don't have a link, but I read both Quinn and Russell were supposed to come in for interviews.

Dolfansal
04-02-2007, 11:21 AM
Win this year?

We don't have the talent to play with NE, Indy , San Diegeo or even Cincy.

They would all outscore us 9 out of 10 times.

The main piece to a teams puzzle is a QB and until we get one we will be picking in the top 15 every year!!!!!!!!!

Raoul Duke
04-02-2007, 11:53 AM
This is crazy for people saying QB is not a need for this team. Look what happened last year after CPep went down there was nothing. Joey Harrington was horrible i would have much rather had gus here for another year than ever watch joey throw another ball in a phins uniform. The dolphins have to draft a qb this season. they have to...

SgtPhin
04-02-2007, 01:34 PM
Just remember, it doesn't matter who we draft this year. It will be at least 1 possibly 2 years before any of the drafted QB's are ready for the NFL.

Crunkcore
04-02-2007, 01:41 PM
We need to draft our franchise QB sooner than later.

BlueFin
04-02-2007, 01:48 PM
Dude, by the picture on your avatar, you are a little disturbed. You need to get off of Quinn's you know what. We have DC, Lemon, possibly Green, and a chance at a late 2nd round or 3rd round QB to develop.

Our 1st round pick needs to go to a NEED. Not a luxury pick like Quinn. If you even call him that. He actually has some possible bust written over him according to some experts.

Negative Ed, teams that draft based on need draft poorly.

maverick50
04-02-2007, 01:50 PM
ok jokers its time for a introduction here . dolphin fans i want to introduce you all to zach taylor qb nebraska he can run and throw and he is pretty accurate. he can be had in rd 2 for a bargin prive of 1 million even. now try to control yourselfs here but zac is a better qb then stanton and he reminds me of joe montana.

by the way i want to give it up to myself for this great qb find after we win a super bowl you all will be having a party for me in my honnor please bring plenty of women and some cold beer and thats all i ask. ok?:cooldude:

FinfanInBuffalo
04-02-2007, 01:57 PM
Negative Ed, teams that draft based on need draft poorly.

I agree in prinicple, but clearly teams take need into account. Otherwise, draft guides wouldn't bother listing the draft needs of the NFL teams. Imagine Arizona taking Quinn with the 5th pick. Clearly, they could trade him later, but that would be a big risk. Every mock draft that shows Quinn falling out of the top 10 is because of the needs of teams between 1 and 10.

OneHondo
04-02-2007, 05:21 PM
Quinn never beat a powerhouse in his college career. ND got smoked every big game. he padded his stats against the NAvy's and the other softies on the schedule.

John Elway never led Stanford to a bowl game, never made Stanford a great team but he did pretty well in the NFL.

He played Georgia Tech, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Stanford, UCLA, North Carolina, USC, LSU in 2006. Doesn't look like he played Navy all year. Finished 2006 with a 151.6 passer rating, 37 TDs and 7 INTs for 3278 yards. Not too shabby but of course it was all agains't Navy

Finsfan1984
04-02-2007, 05:32 PM
I would rather draft Troy Smith in the 3rd round then have Quinn.
That's just plain out STUPID man. You would rather have a QB who isnt even on the same RADAR as another guy...whats the logic here?

Finsfan1984
04-02-2007, 05:34 PM
John Elway never led Stanford to a bowl game, never made Stanford a great team but he did pretty well in the NFL.

He played Georgia Tech, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Stanford, UCLA, North Carolina, USC, LSU in 2006. Doesn't look like he played Navy all year. Finished 2006 with a 151.6 passer rating, 37 TDs and 7 INTs for 3278 yards. Not too shabby but of course it was all agains't Navy
Apparently SLIPPY didnt watch when Quinn almost single handedly brought ND back against USC last season, if not for a great 4th down play. But then again, if ND had won that game, we wouldnt even be talking about even having a shot at him in the draft due to the fact of all the HYPE about winning and losing and what-not that goes on this time of year.

NorFlaFin
04-02-2007, 05:37 PM
We will not be a legit team until we get a QB.

When are we going to get a franchise QB?(Don't say next year when Brohm comes out) We have been saying next year for a freakin decade now.

........
When will we have a chance like this again?

Easy go 4-12 and we'll have the number two overall pick in the draft. Just don't pick a RB..
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