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Agent51
04-03-2007, 04:13 PM
So just out of curiosity I decided to check out the Wonderlic scores for this years QB class, and the first thing I notice is Russell's score is missing. In fact, his NAME isn't even mentioned on the lists. Chris Leak scored an EIGHT, and some lists don't even show it, they just have a blank spot next to his name :lol:.

Now, I don't place a lot of emphasis on the wonderlic, but I do always check the QB scores because it IS a test that scores your ability to quickly and accurately solve problems under pressure. I think of all the positions the QB is really the only one this test holds any weight for (even though I still don't place much weight on it).

For anyone Curious, the results are:

Drew Stanton - 35
John Beck - 30
Brady Quinn - 29
Kevin Kolb - 28
Matt Guiterrez - 28
Jordan Palmer - 23
Justin Rascati - 23
Jeff Rowe - 21
Luke Getsy - 20
Tyler Palko - 18
Toby Korrodi - 12
Chris Leak - 8

Anyone know what the deal with Russell not taking it is?

fishypete
04-03-2007, 04:22 PM
Wish I could help you out...but none of the place I search have the scores yet.

CANDolphan
04-03-2007, 04:32 PM
Those probably arent real scores.. those were the scores " reported " after the combine, like 24 hours after..

The Wonderlic scores are held under lock and key so Id be surprised if anyone REALLY knew what the score was

Agent51
04-03-2007, 04:46 PM
Those probably arent real scores.. those were the scores " reported " after the combine, like 24 hours after..

The Wonderlic scores are held under lock and key so Id be surprised if anyone REALLY knew what the score was

IDK, I got them from this site: http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic.htm, but even if they aren't official it is still odd that Russell, probably the most highly scrutinized player in the draft, is completely absent from the charts.

Dolfan32323
04-03-2007, 05:21 PM
Oh my god an 8? Wow...

Agent51
04-03-2007, 05:37 PM
Oh my god an 8? Wow...

Well, according to the history chart of every QB score, the lowest was Oscar Davenport from Kansas State in 1999, he got a SIX., Then one other guy got and 8 besides Chris Leak, and that was Vince Evans from USC, in 1977. A couple dudes got 10s and even more got 11s, but only 3 people have been in the single digits and Leak is one of them :lol:

Dolfan32323
04-03-2007, 05:40 PM
That is abysmal to score that low on the Wonderlic. Nice way to put yourself down in the history books ;).

Crowder52
04-03-2007, 05:41 PM
Those probably arent real scores.. those were the scores " reported " after the combine, like 24 hours after..

The Wonderlic scores are held under lock and key so Id be surprised if anyone REALLY knew what the score was

I would also question the validity of those scores, as they are not supposed to be released. Chris Leak was a repeat All-SEC Academic performer; the 8 is pretty unbelievable.

Boomer
04-03-2007, 05:41 PM
I think Pig Prather has the lowest ever Wonderlich score.

Kdawg954
04-03-2007, 05:50 PM
I would also question the validity of those scores, as they are not supposed to be released. Chris Leak was a repeat All-SEC Academic performer; the 8 is pretty unbelievable.

The whole Wonderlic system is overrated man . . . Chris leak was a fine college QB and will be picked up by some team in the NFL and he may suprise a few heads. Didn't Marino have a real low score . . . I mean if u know how to play football . . . u don't need a test to tell u that.

Agent51
04-03-2007, 06:11 PM
The whole Wonderlic system is overrated man . . . Chris leak was a fine college QB and will be picked up by some team in the NFL and he may suprise a few heads. Didn't Marino have a real low score . . . I mean if u know how to play football . . . u don't need a test to tell u that.

Oh I know, but I think they are at least worth taking a look since the entire premise of the test is to try and grade your ability to make quick decisions under pressure. I completely agree it really doesn't transfer over to the football field, but it's nice to get a GENERAL idea of their thought process.

dan the fin
04-03-2007, 06:30 PM
This is the first year that the NFL has refused to release the scores so as far as how accurate any list is who really knows.

dan the fin
04-03-2007, 06:32 PM
Oh and If I recall right I am pretty sure the wonderlic is manditory, so Russell had to take it.

Geforce
04-03-2007, 06:39 PM
So just out of curiosity I decided to check out the Wonderlic scores for this years QB class, and the first thing I notice is Russell's score is missing. In fact, his NAME isn't even mentioned on the lists. Chris Leak scored an EIGHT, and some lists don't even show it, they just have a blank spot next to his name :lol:.

Now, I don't place a lot of emphasis on the wonderlic, but I do always check the QB scores because it IS a test that scores your ability to quickly and accurately solve problems under pressure. I think of all the positions the QB is really the only one this test holds any weight for (even though I still don't place much weight on it).

For anyone Curious, the results are:

Drew Stanton - 35
John Beck - 30
Brady Quinn - 29
Kevin Kolb - 28
Matt Guiterrez - 28
Jordan Palmer - 23
Justin Rascati - 23
Jeff Rowe - 21
Luke Getsy - 20
Tyler Palko - 18
Toby Korrodi - 12
Chris Leak - 8

Anyone know what the deal with Russell not taking it is?

To clearify the Chris Leak score. He didn't score an 8. He answered 12 questions and got 8 of them right. This was also from his practice wonderlic test from Florida's Pro Day in 2006 and not from the Combine in 2007.
http://wonderlic.blogspot.com/2007/02/chris-leak-wonderlic.html

Agent51
04-03-2007, 06:47 PM
To clearify the Chris Leak score. He didn't score an 8. He answered 12 questions and got 8 of them right. This was also from his practice wonderlic test from Florida's Pro Day in 2006 and not from the Combine in 2007.
http://wonderlic.blogspot.com/2007/02/chris-leak-wonderlic.html

Ah, that makes a LOT more sense. I was wondering how he did that bad when he was an academic player :lol:

NorFlaFin
04-03-2007, 06:49 PM
I'm curious as to Russells score. If he scored over 20-25 his agent ought to be trumpeting those scores.

Dolfan32323
04-03-2007, 07:22 PM
Thank God Leak didn't get an 8. I am relieved!

mbsinmisc
04-03-2007, 07:31 PM
I would also question the validity of those scores, as they are not supposed to be released. Chris Leak was a repeat All-SEC Academic performer; the 8 is pretty unbelievable.

I agree, if he does have a learning disability then kudos to him for sticking in college 4 years and acheiving the accolades that he did.

mbsinmisc
04-03-2007, 07:34 PM
I agree, if he does have a learning disability then kudos to him for sticking in college 4 years and acheiving the accolades that he did.

yeah I know I am quoting myself, but I posted before I read the entire thread. I dont think Leak is an NFL qb, but that is based on his arm, not his head.

finfan54
04-03-2007, 07:40 PM
The wunderlich is overrated because they ask you stupid questions about months and dates or whatever and certain players dont take it seriously and I guess your asked questions in rapid succession. It does not test your ability under pressure if you refuse to deal with it. It has nothing to do with playing football. I could see players just rolling their eyes all over this. That is probably why they keep it under lock and key because players will just refuse to take it like they refuse to run on the Indy track.

Sean
04-03-2007, 07:42 PM
I was gunna say.

Because Vince Young= 8; he's dumb as a brick

Agent51
04-03-2007, 07:46 PM
Chris Leak= Vince Young

Both dumb as a brick and scored and 8/50.

there stupid as all hell.

The difference is Vince Young is succeeding in the NFl and Chris Leak won't do a thing, not even in NFL Europe. And FYI, Vince got a 16, not an 8, and Dan Marino only got a 15, so by your logic Vince Young is smarter than Dan Marino.

And it's already been established that the 8 wasn't the score but the number of questiones he answerd right, on a 12 question test, meaning he got 66.6% right.

Regan21286
04-03-2007, 08:04 PM
So just out of curiosity I decided to check out the Wonderlic scores for this years QB class, and the first thing I notice is Russell's score is missing. In fact, his NAME isn't even mentioned on the lists. Chris Leak scored an EIGHT, and some lists don't even show it, they just have a blank spot next to his name :lol:.

Now, I don't place a lot of emphasis on the wonderlic, but I do always check the QB scores because it IS a test that scores your ability to quickly and accurately solve problems under pressure. I think of all the positions the QB is really the only one this test holds any weight for (even though I still don't place much weight on it).

For anyone Curious, the results are:

Drew Stanton - 35
John Beck - 30
Brady Quinn - 29
Kevin Kolb - 28
Matt Guiterrez - 28
Jordan Palmer - 23
Justin Rascati - 23
Jeff Rowe - 21
Luke Getsy - 20
Tyler Palko - 18
Toby Korrodi - 12
Chris Leak - 8

Anyone know what the deal with Russell not taking it is?

Wonderlic is probably better for actual jobs than it is for football players. Really it's just a general sense of how a QB will fare when learning a new playbook, etc. That said, scoring real low would probably mean you'll have trouble learning new plays and analyzing game strategies from film and that your style of play is wholly instinctive rather than through higher-level brain functions.

LightsOut
04-24-2007, 01:38 PM
"Russell has unheard-of stature and bulk, a howitzer for an arm and scored a solid 24 on the Wonderlic intelligence test."

not bad at all.

http://www.theolympian.com/103/story/87861.html