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PhinFan0202
04-05-2007, 09:16 PM
Do you still think we got te best player available? This is just for fun and i just want to get some feedback. This isn't a knock on Ronnie Brown at all i just want to know everyone else's opinion on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NFL_Draft

AllianceCollect
04-05-2007, 09:34 PM
Since the only other player drafted in the first round that year who is head & shoulders above Ronnie is Merriman and the fact that these guys have only played 2yrs, considering the position our team was in at the time, YES I do think we got the best player available.

Besides, there was virtually no way that Saban was going to draft Merriman that high anyway.

Crowder52
04-05-2007, 09:39 PM
The only guy I would take over Ronnie would be Jammal Brown. Obviously he wasn't graded anywhere near the #2 overall pick so Ronnie looks like a real solid selection at this point in time. The '05 draft looks pretty weak actually. I wouldn't take Merriman because of his steroid problem that I have a funny feeling isn't going away anytime soon.

PhinFan0202
04-05-2007, 09:48 PM
The only guy I would take over Ronnie would be Jammal Brown. Obviously he wasn't graded anywhere near the #2 overall pick so Ronnie looks like a real solid selection at this point in time. The '05 draft looks pretty weak actually. I wouldn't take Merriman because of his steroid problem that I have a funny feeling isn't going away anytime soon.

Yeah i would agree with that. The draft was extremely week if you look at everyone in the top 10. Cadillac is a good pick when healthy, Ronnie has been solid for what he's been given, Alex Smith is developing, and Braylon has shown flashes. The Troy Williamson pick was horrible in my opinion. They tried to replace Moss with a guy that ran fast at the combine. Moss was insane throughout college and to replace him with a workout warrior was stupid.

KTOWNFINFAN
04-05-2007, 10:18 PM
I think a case could be made that 2 of the top 3 choices both went to SD. They got two of the best play makers in the entire 05 draft. I would have to put Ronnie in the top three also. JMO

MofoPhin
04-05-2007, 10:25 PM
knowing what i know now, maybe frank gore but its only been two years

PhinFan0202
04-05-2007, 10:37 PM
Frank Gore has been the most productive runningback. I would give Caddy a close 2nd with Ronnie Brown taking 3rd. Cedric Benson could have had more success early if he didn't hold out of camp like a jackass.

SoDakDolfan
04-05-2007, 10:42 PM
I love Ronnie Brown. i still believe he will be a pro bowl running back for us.

daniel3
04-05-2007, 10:50 PM
What a boring draft class. Why people cry about the Ronnie pick when he is one of the better players picked that year is beyond me.

eomdtbtr
04-05-2007, 11:12 PM
I would have loved to pick up Alex Smith.

Regan21286
04-05-2007, 11:19 PM
I wouldn't change a single pick in that draft though if Matt Leinart had declared, I would draft differently. Now for the 2006 draft....

LostInPatsLand
04-05-2007, 11:47 PM
Hindsight being 20/20, I'd pick Merriman over Brown and pick up Gore in the second. Reminds me: Maybe I should start working on that time machine I've been putting off. I'm sure I can give H. Wayne Huizenga circa 2005 some invaluable advice about the draft and about that wonderful and sincere genius of a coach he just hired.

PhinFan0202
04-06-2007, 01:09 AM
I love Ronnie Brown. i still believe he will be a pro bowl running back for us.

He has the tools to be a Pro Bowl runningback but he just dosen't have the line to allow him to do so. I look at Ricky Williams back in 02 and he can make stuff happen with decent line, he's just that good. Ronnie on the other hand is more of a power runner that needs a line more so to help him get to the 2nd level of the defense.

FinfanInBuffalo
04-06-2007, 08:28 AM
Frank Gore has been the most productive runningback. I would give Caddy a close 2nd with Ronnie Brown taking 3rd. Cedric Benson could have had more success early if he didn't hold out of camp like a jackass.

????

He has fewer yards from scrimmage, less TDs, lower YPC, fewer receptions, etc, etc....

His career YPC is 3.8. How can you possibly think he has been more productive than Ronnie Brown?

PhinFan0202
04-06-2007, 03:32 PM
????

He has fewer yards from scrimmage, less TDs, lower YPC, fewer receptions, etc, etc....

His career YPC is 3.8. How can you possibly think he has been more productive than Ronnie Brown?

Frank Gore's stats are....

Games- 30
Avg. yards per carry- 5.2
Attempts-439
yrds-2303
long- 72
Tds-11

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/411568

Ronnie Browns stats are...

Games-28
Avg. yards per carry-4.3
Attempts-448
Yrds-1915
Long-65
Tds-9

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/407235

Frank Gore also has 76 rec. for 616 yards while Ronnie has 65 rec. for 508 yards.

FinfanInBuffalo
04-06-2007, 03:41 PM
Frank Gore's stats are....

Games- 30
Avg. yards per carry- 5.2
Attempts-439
yrds-2303
long- 72
Tds-11

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/411568

Ronnie Browns stats are...

Games-28
Avg. yards per carry-4.3
Attempts-448
Yrds-1915
Long-65
Tds-9

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/407235

Frank Gore also has 76 rec. for 616 yards while Ronnie has 65 rec. for 508 yards.

Compare Caddy's numbers to Browns. Gore has clearly been more productive, but I didn't question that.

It was your placement of Caddy 2nd that I was questioning. I thought that would be clear because I bolded that part of your quote.

Finsfan1984
04-06-2007, 03:42 PM
knowing what i know now, maybe frank gore but its only been two years
Not me!!! I'll stick with Ronnie if its gona be a running back. Im just waiting on Gore to tear up his knee again. Other than that, maybe Merriman.

PhinFan0202
04-06-2007, 04:55 PM
Compare Caddy's numbers to Browns. Gore has clearly been more productive, but I didn't question that.

It was your placement of Caddy 2nd that I was questioning. I thought that would be clear because I bolded that part of your quote.

Ahh i see what you mean. Caddy didn't play much last year as far as i know but he did win the rookie of the year and had the most yrds in the first three games of a rookies career i think. I would still take Ronnie over Caddy even though Caddie won rookie of the year.

alen1
04-06-2007, 06:59 PM
Hindsight being 20/20, I'd pick Merriman over Brown and pick up Gore in the second. Reminds me: Maybe I should start working on that time machine I've been putting off. I'm sure I can give H. Wayne Huizenga circa 2005 some invaluable advice about the draft and about that wonderful and sincere genius of a coach he just hired.

same here

Jaj
04-06-2007, 07:11 PM
Not so much because of Ronnie but because of the influx of supremeley talented running backs lately I would have drafted Braylon Edwards and maybe a running back a little later on. It was a great class of runners to be sure.

Even if you didn't fix that need at RB that year, the next year it would have been nice to have drafted Maroney or Williams instead of Allen. Probably would have ended up signing a free safety this year without a new need at RB.

However, it was overall good decision. What's killing this team is that 2+3 they gave up for Feeley and Gordon.

MastR_EvaluatoR
04-06-2007, 07:38 PM
Saban did a GOOD JOB IN THAT DRAFT. The players we got in the first 4 rounds are all starters for the team..

I hope we do as well this draft in 3 weeks.

Rubbin420
04-07-2007, 01:03 PM
Do you still think we got te best player available? This is just for fun and i just want to get some feedback. This isn't a knock on Ronnie Brown at all i just want to know everyone else's opinion on the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_NFL_Draft

I think our first 3 rounds was golden.

Can you believe Frank Gore in the 3rd?
That was the steal of the draft.

musphinzfan
04-07-2007, 01:23 PM
2 guys pop out Demarcus Ware and Merriman...A nice set piece to JT as the best DE duo's in the NFL.

I just felt that the RB position was extremly deep with Barber and Fason going in the 4th rd.